01 Oct 2023 04:39:34 Watched the replay, there is no way Darren England thought the officials had ruled a goal. There is no way. Assuming they watch the same images we see on telly live it is clear as day that there is no goal celebration, the images so linesman flagged offside, and the players are mulling about waiting for VAR. there is just no way Darren England missed all that unless he is deaf, blind and dumb. This smells of a sham cover up to protect the technology and blame the communication process instead.

1.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 07:02:46
I grew up in the same little village as Darren England, he use to play footy with the rest of us. He's a Man Utd fan.

2.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 06:45:53
Last night just proved what a shambles the VAR is - interfering in something that wasn’t clear and obvious error (the referee adjudging Jones tackle to be a yellow and not a red), but then missing a clear and obvious error (the offsides) .

The problem I have with the red is not the outcome as it was always going to be a close call, but the fact that VAR screen was showing a still of the worst angle and worst moment for a full 30 seconds and so the ref had his mind made up for him before seeing any of the factors relevant to why he called it a yellow in the first place (the fact he got the ball, and just rolled over the top, the level of force in the tackle etc. ) . It was a subjective call yet the VAR took the call away from the man right on the spot and gave it to another, exactly what it wasn’t supposed to be used for.

The offsides though is just beyond a joke.

VAR needs an overhaul by someone who can rethink the use case entirely and how it’s implemented. There is so much confusion and personal interpretation with so many cooks now, nobody can rationalize the outcomes.

3.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 07:47:44
Maybe the officials are Joe Lewis' mates and they're merely returning the favour.

4.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 07:57:37
It’s a cover up a lie to cover a lie.

5.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 08:07:02
I think we just need to suck it up and move on. Calling someone out as currupt is a little too much.
Mistakes of a great magnitude were made but the fella is only human.

{Ed025's Note - dont be so naive mate..

6.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 08:30:15
faith
The technology is not at fault here it’s a gang of corrupt muppets officiating the game that’s the problem.

Jones wasn’t a red but can see why the ref has gave it when he’s only seen that still that looks nastier than it was

Jota 1st wasn’t a yellow

The goal let’s just not speak about that because that’s corruption at the highest order it’s a sham that .

7.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 08:43:58
02bnhd2 - Do you really believe what you’re saying? Do you genuinely think that offside goal decision was pure incompetence?
No. It was too quickly brushed over, too obviously ignored by Sky, too far off-track from regular VAR protocol to simply be incompetence. It was cheating.

Yesterday’s result was engineered. Poorly, but engineered nonetheless. City lost, have injuries and suspensions to key players, made massive transfer mistakes in the summer, and may well lose two PL games in a row for the first time in half a decade next week. It’s too regular to dismiss as incompetence now.

8.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 08:51:20
It is a corrupt system. It is not a Comms issue. It is not a Tech issue. It is corruption.