08 Mar 2024 17:24:58
ED2 - u stated in previous post that Alonso could end up at Bayern. has there been any discussion and is it in advanced stage.

{Ed002's Note - Bayern have spoken with Bayer Leverkusen. I don’t know what you mean by “advanced”.}

1.) 08 Mar 2024
08 Mar 2024 21:14:55
Hi Ed002, it means 1 step before personal terms are discussed.

{Ed002's Note - I had no idea about that - then the answer is no.}

2.) 09 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 09:42:07
Actually “advanced talks” is more like when you see someone at a bar chatting some one up and just about to ask for their number…. Hopefully alonso is giving them a fake one. Reliable source tells me Mullet is acting as wing man.

3.) 09 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 15:14:42
Who do you think we will End up with manager wise eds?

{Ed002's Note - I don't think anything has changed sugnificantly since I last answere this. Alonso will be first choice bu Bayern Munich should have the edge. Ruben Amorim may offer an option but will be miffed as being down the list. Nagelsmann is talented and perhaps should not be discounted for the Liverpool job. May be a shrewd choice for Liverpool and will have the support of Klopp but another side is considering him already. Edwards could be asked to see if Lijnders will change his mind - but he too is in talks over another job.}

4.) 09 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 21:27:08
I just can’t see Alonso going to Bayern. That would just be too much of a spit in Leverkusen’s face in my opinion.

I’m not saying he should choose Liverpool instead but to win the league with Leverkusen and then ditch them for Bayern would destroy any legacy he has at Leverkusen and I just can’t see him doing that.

5.) 09 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 21:58:40
Alonso might think that it could be too soon to follow in Klopp’s daunting footsteps and risk his growing reputation - he might see Bayern as a more natural stepping stone as he gains experience.

6.) 09 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 22:43:43
That argument doesn’t stack up Wallace. He’d be taking over an ageing Bayern team in need of overhaul and under pressure to win the league every season and go deep in the champions league too.

At Liverpool he’s taking over a young, talented squad that might need some tweaks here and there and will be given time because he’s following Klopp so he won’t be expected to win everything straight away.

The German media have twisted it to suggest he’d be under more pressure at Liverpool but the opposite is true.

7.) 10 Mar 2024
09 Mar 2024 23:46:52
Are Bayern aging? What do they have like neuer, muller and Kane over 30? Any issues they have is not age related.

8.) 10 Mar 2024
10 Mar 2024 08:32:30
I know they’re professionals and moving is part of the job but one factor I haven’t seen mentioned if Xabi’s family. Maybe staying in Germany is more appealing than a move back to merseyside.

{Ed001's Note - his kids are Liverpool fans and his missus loved it in Liverpool, that's why they come back so often.}

9.) 10 Mar 2024
10 Mar 2024 08:58:47
If It is true that he wants to join Bayern over Liverpool then he is obviously not the man for us. I refuse to believe this though as only a mad man would turn down Liverpool FC.

10.) 10 Mar 2024
10 Mar 2024 19:53:29
There’s a tendency to imagine what we - as fans - would want to do and then imagining that Alonso will feel the same way. Sadly the world doesn’t work like that, no matter how much we wish it did.

As I said a while back, the best managers we’ve had in my lifetime are the ones who ‘get’ Liverpool. I think Xabi my be someone who does and I sincerely hope he is offered and takes the job. BUT, if he does take the job I really hope it’s because he wants to be here, and not just because it’s a well paid job, if that makes sense.

11.) 10 Mar 2024
10 Mar 2024 21:06:42
@Beckers pecker, i disagree alonso for Liverpool is "he’s taking over a young, talented squad"

This squad in Liverpool doesn't play Alonso's system, it is perfect for playing Kloppss style. So alonso will have a hard time getting rid of players who don't suit his style and acquire players who does. It will be 1 transition year. This is base on statistics shown by Carragher. Liverpool play mix of long, short passes but Leverkusen is almost totally short passess more akeen to City style.

12.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 06:31:28
Question for ed01, ed02 said above Edwards might be asked if he could change Linders mind. If we don't get Alonso, do you think he would be a good option, for continuity if nothing else?
I have always been dead set against him and blamed him entirely for the inverted system which I put down to our dodgy form last year. That said I have to admit we have been playing well recently? Maybe we are getting used to it and he wouldn't be all that bad, or maybe I'm just going mad.

{Ed001's Note - no, Lijnders is fine as a coach, he works really well with Klopp, but he is not a manager. He has Allardyce-like delusions of grandeur telling numerous media outlets about things at the training ground and making sure it is all his idea and that he did it. That is not what you need from a manager. A manager has to be about the team, like Klopp who always talks about we, not I. Lijnders is an I not a we man. It would be a huge mistake. It would be a Souness-like error.

We need someone who understands that it is about we not I. That is why it worked when it was handed over to Paisley, not just because he was tactically astute, but because he didn't want the credit for himself. Win, lose or draw, Paisley always talked about us or we. Lijnders needs to make his way for himself and lose that part of his make-up. I am sure it is just about being desperate to prove himself so he is wanting everyone to know what he gives to the group but he should just let the results talk for themselves. Klopp would have given him credit in interviews anyway, he lets him do the cup games for example, and the players will talk and a coach's reputation quickly travels between clubs due to that.

If you are not about us and we, the players will turn on you when there is a bad patch as they do not feel you are with them. Mark Hughes found that out whenever there was a bad run his teams would fall apart because he would give lip service to us and we but him and his staff would travel to matches separately from the players, so they felt like he wasn't with them. It is what Klopp has done better than anyone, why they run through brick walls for him and give everything on the pitch for him, he makes them feel that everyone is in it together. That is the key to success at Liverpool. We, the owners, the fans, the players, the back room staff, the tea ladies, the catering staff, stewards, everyone connected with the club are one team and Klopp brought that back and it has brought him success out of all proportion to the money he had to spend in comparison to City.}

13.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 08:22:55
Leek
Are you telling me footballers are so thick, they can't adapt their style of play? What happens when they move to a new team? What happens when a new manager comes in? Do they always go to the ones that play their particular style of football? Do they as a team, tell the new manager they can't play possession football, or long balls, or counter-attacking because the previous manager has ingrained in them so much, that that is the only way they can play?

No, they don't do they.

It's obvious you know very little about how to play the game. Some of your comments are ridiculous and border on trolling, for the sake of being contentious.

14.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 09:22:43
The current squad have adopted the inverted full back strategy and, going a bit further back (and again this season) the press. Perhaps part of the profile that the club look for is adaptability.

15.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 15:19:40
@coolerthanfonz, if players can adoat so well, pray tell me why Klopp need to clear out at least half the team built by Brendan Roger and need to bring in the players Klopp needed to play gegenpressing and heavy metal. Playeds have specialised skill, u don't ask VVd to play striker because he can adapt or Drawin nunez play GK simply because he can adapt.

I hereby rest my case.

16.) 12 Mar 2024
12 Mar 2024 05:30:12
@Lee, Klopp brought in players because they were better than the ones we had. That doesn’t mean that the players we released / sold couldn’t adapt but it did mean the players that came in were better at adapting.

It also seems that you are confusing changing positions (VVD moving from CB to Attacker, for instance) with a team adapting a different style of play, which is an almost entirely different thing. You may need to revisit your case.

17.) 13 Mar 2024
13 Mar 2024 16:04:11
CoolerThanTheFonz I agree with Leak, History shows this to be correct I will just pick the obvious example but many more can be put forward if you require? .

Guardiola rebuilds all of the teams he has ever managed. this is because the players already at the club can't play his system. the current liverpool squad is build for Klopp's style which is quite different from Alonso style.

I personally think it would be a disaster Liverpool need a similar style of manager to klopp otherwise another rebuild would be on the cards. It seems stupid to me to build a squad that plays klopp's style and replace him with someone with a completely different style. Players join new clubs but the clubs signing them mostly look for players that fit the managers style and the clubs style of play.

Yes players can be trained but they were never trained to play possession football like Alonso or Guardiola teams, they come from clubs and managers who all play the same or similar to Klopp and yes some of the players probably won't be able to be as good playing a different way to the the way they were scouted and the reasons why they were signed. Some players would make it no doubt but most of Klopps signings are not technically gifted and a possession based manager wouldn't look at these players when they are looking for new players, they are a mix of work horses and ability on the break which is completely different profiles for players required to play an Alonso system.