03 Oct 2023 18:44:05
Just listen to the var audio, and honestly I've got no words I really haven't. What an absolute shambles. Var could be awesome but with the stupid perimeters they put in place it's no wonder it's like it is. Ridiculous.

Not that it made much difference as we smashed the ball in our own net at the end anyway. On to the next one.

1.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 18:58:55
The game should be replayed. Making a subjective call that they later say was a mistake is one thing, but a screw up like that deserves a replay.

2.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:05:22
It made all the difference Mr Bean as that goal changes the whole game and the end never happens.

I’m going to be generous here and give them the benefit of the doubt and try to believe that is the genuine audio. I’m not sure why it’s taken 3 days to release it so I have reservations but let’s say it is.

Darren England was told immediately, within seconds that he had made a mistake but chose to say he can’t do anything and, in my view brought the game into disrepute by allowing a knowingly incorrect decision to stand.

On drawing the lines he hasn’t drawn the line on Diaz which would’ve put an onside decision on the big screen so he hasn’t followed the correct protocol when checking for an offside.

Then when he realised he’d made a mistake he decides all of a sudden that the protocols are important and won’t correct it.

To have 3 premier league officials rule out a goal and know it’s incorrect immediately after the incident and do nothing it unforgivable and raises so many questions about the individuals and the PGMOL itself.

Are they actually interested in getting the right decisions? It seems not.

3.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:07:09
I don't think a replay is possible, surely awarding Liverpool the point that goal gets them and exsponging the loss to a draw is though? Spurs don't deserve to loose out it wasnt their fault so they shouldn't get those 2 points taken. It will be the first game in history that a point was earned for one side and three for the other, but this is the first tie in history VAR have messed up like this .

4.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:08:32
It's genuinely hilarious. Neither of the VAR officials noticed, the replay operator pointed out the mistake. Make him a ref. At least he has eyes.

Again, I have to ask: what were they doing? They weren't paying attention to the game, which is their job.

5.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:11:25
A replay of the game is not possible, we've been told that enough times.

{Ed001's Note - it is possible. It won't happen, but it is possible.}

6.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:16:53
The audio strikes me as someone “wanting” a decision to be rushed through

How could they not see that the official had given offside?

Do they not have a feed of the match?

And now- not Liverpool related- how many times has this happened in the past but we don’t know it as the audio wasn’t released?

7.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:25:50
That’s not error I’m
Not having that . Var say offside goal
It’s only the operator that brings it up saying he was onside they were all in agreement he was off .

Until they realise its been picke up on and all back track

Why say offside goal if you think it’s onside .

I give up with these cheating b*******s.

8.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:30:34
Fair play to the replay operator and Oli (? ) At least two individuals had the balls to grab the shaft and stop the game.

9.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:31:50
Wow. It’s worse than I actually thought.
That’s the most corrupt thing I’ve ever heard. They Just continued the game after knowing full well it was a goal.

Wow I’m absolutely blown away. Liverpool were 100% correct, the integrity of the game is seriously at risk after this. How do they even begin to fix that error?

Robbed beyond belief.

10.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:42:16
Arsenal v Sheffield was replayed in 1999.

11.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:42:50
The more I think about this, the worse it gets. Removing all of emotional reaction from it, the PGMOL has existed since 2001. Part of its remit is to develop refs and improve refereeing standards in England. VAR's been in place since 2018.

And at no point in that 5 years did anyone in the PGMOL think to improve the standard of refereeing by adopting guidelines around clear language when it comes to VAR decisions for avoidance of doubt? Don't just say "check complete", say "check complete + the decision" ie. "check complete, Liverpool onside", so no one is in any doubt. No? Too advanced a concept?

The organisation is not fit for purpose.

12.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:52:42
We have no idea how the game would of panned out so a replay is pointless in my opinion. Plus why punish spurs, although i don't want them to whinge about a decision again. Personally I want to see change to the system so it doesn't happen again.

13.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 19:59:31
"Changes to the process".

You mean implement what half a chimp could've seen was necessary in advance?

14.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 20:03:23
Like I said before, this issue is worse than you think and I had not even heard the audio. And after hearing the audio, I have my confirmation. Seriously, the VAR was more focused on following protocol rather than doing what it takes to get the decision right, stop the game and tell the ref it was a goal. So that's the prioirity now to these refs under the PGMOL? Yeah, we are well and truly screwed, for real.

15.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 21:35:13
I’m not convinced it’s real. Either way though they realized they had made such an error and they can’t go back because play had been started you think the ref would have given the penalty on Gomez in at least a minor effort to rectify.

16.) 03 Oct 2023
03 Oct 2023 21:35:39
WY, the only fair thing to do is to replay the game. We don’t know how the game would have panned out but we DO know that the officials have unfairly influenced the result and that they were aware of it.

Anything that happened after the goal is null and void so the game should 100% be replayed.

17.) 05 Oct 2023
04 Oct 2023 19:41:30
So what is worse. stopping the game after it was started and correcting the VAR "mistake", OR, what actually happened, where they hid behind the fact that the game had restarted?

I know which of those 2 scenarios are worse. common sense should have prevailed. I'd lime to think that Spurs would've agreed with the stopping of the game.

The funny thing is, a team can be called back onto the field, AFTER the final whistle has blown, to take a penalty BUT the game cannot be stopped 10 seconds after a restart to declare a goal. are you kidding me?