19 Jul 2016 15:29:50
In regards to the Wijnaldum rumours, i'd just like to say that I get a deep cringing feeling any time any Dutch player is associated with LFC. I really am not trying to be racial or ethnic or anything similar, but in my years of watching football, I've never seen a group of players who are consistently so egotistical, hotheaded and simply "problematic" despite the unquestionable amazing talent pool such a small country has. I've seen them revolt against each other or their coaches in at least 2-3 World cups, players consistently question everything from their management at the local club levels and I would even say that Dutch teams have given more titles away rather than lost them. For every Bergkamp, Van Basten, Van Persie, Overmars, Van den Sar, Kuyt and Koeman who was a true professional and went about their work as they should and achieved great heights you have the Sneijder, Kluivert, Seedorf, Davids, Rijkaard, Van der Vaart, Nigel de Jong etc., etc. who were as much a disruptive and negative factor to their teams due to their on/ off field antics or attitude. Even the great Johan Cruyff (whom I rate as the third all time behind Pele and Maradona) was associated with controversy and egoism as much as with supreme footballing and managing talent. Even our Ryan Babel had enough talent and sufficient potential to make it, but he always preferred the dj console to taking his career seriously. Bottom line? Wijnaldum? Let's give it a miss, please. Why take a chance on a player who already has a questioned work ethic and doesn't fit the "team first" environment being created?


1.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 16:26:27
Thank God you or your opinion have no influence on Liverpool Or football in general


2.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 16:27:14
I think on top of his questionable mentality, the other reason it won't happen is because hopefully Newcastle are making it a ridiculous fee and terms, the latest in the Echo is that they want close to £27m and they wan that up front. If true, that should be enough to make it a deal to walk away from because the player isn't worth a quarter of that fee.


3.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 16:30:16
All those problem players you mentioned bar De Jong where great players, with multiple Champions League and League winners medals. All of whom would have improved Liverpool massively.


4.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 17:13:00
If only there was something in holland to calm all these hot headed Dutch players down, a herb or something? ;)


5.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 17:20:56
Dirk was a model professional - I don't want us to sign Wijnaldum but your statement is just stupid on every level.


6.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 17:59:18
There are many other arguments to make for Wijnaldum not to come to LFC but the OP`s post isn`t one of them.


7.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 20:17:37
Irish Rover - yes, every single player I named was a very good player in the least. I was just saying that a lot of them also had questionable attitude issues and problematic natures that made things difficult for their teams. My post was not about on-field footballing talent. All the players I mentioned clearly had it. I was talking about how the off field attitudes were not exactly desirable. Of course, every league has such players with difficult characters and attitude issues. I just feel i saw more of it with Dutch players. I think a lot of people misread my post, but what the heck, this site has become more about upmanship than anything else lately. It's my opinion and i'll stick to it.
Seano - I clearly said Kuyt was a true professional and one of the ones without a difficult character. We all know he was actually the exact opposite. You can call me stupid. That's fine. I wil repay the compliment by saying you are blind. Go to to the optometrist and have the the neural connections between your eyes and feeble brain cells looked at.


8.) 19 Jul 2016
19 Jul 2016 20:38:37
ta1969. Gerrard's off field antics were not the greatest or Suarez (on and off) . The ego goes with the greatness sometimes.