30 Oct 2016 19:35:54
Hi eds, would Gomez not be a good option at left back if he comes back from injury, I saw him at anfield august last year before he got injured and looked really good, I would have Alexander Arnold over Moreno in fact I'd have anyone over Moreno.

{Ed001's Note - not for me, Moreno did well yesterday, why so down on him?}

1.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 20:12:28
Yeah got to give Moreno credit where it's due, he's not been bad at all.

2.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 20:22:15
I still think Moreno's got too much defensive ill-discipline. Left that Spurs player wide open when 2-1 up because he didn't track back, and for Palace's second goal, his closing down of the player who crossed the ball was extremely poor, stood about 3 yards away from him with his hands behind his back. What kind of defending is that? When a ball goes out wide to a winger, he immediately skips over with his hands behind his back and backs off from the opponent. It's so frustrating. I couldn't watch the game, and if he played well then I applaud him, but it's the exception not the rule.

3.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 20:25:33
He will flourish in a 3-4-3. Unfortunately he is due to resume his normal service.

4.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 20:31:24
Thinking out Of The box here, (Moreno's performance on Sat as a natural left footer made me think of it) but Milner as RB Vs Clyne, I'm sure Milners attacking end product would be better than Clynes. His defensive abilities are similar.
If Moreno reverts to type Miller moves over and Clyne comes on.
Just a thought.

5.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 21:08:17
Spot on, Nick. Moreno may be a work in progress but his his defensive indiscipline ans a chronic inability to wanna get stuck in and take a cross in the body or face is a prob. Clyne and many other FB players have this knack or hands behind your back to avoid a penalty yet by doing that, they can't close a player down properly and that has cost us goals in the past and still does. But he and Clyne had decent games but need improvement.

6.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 21:09:26
Moreno has all the attributes for a full back. The only thing is he dives in with unnecessary rushed tackles that give away frees and penalties.

Rob Jones gave an interview a few weeks back about being a full back.
He said all the full back has to do is make his attacker pass backwards,
Job done
No need to dive in at all its all about positioning yourself.

By the way Rob Jones was top top drawer.

7.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 21:27:23
Spot on, Dermot. But fullbacks don't or simply can't do that anymore because of the way they are now being coached.

8.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 21:51:03
Moreno was excellent on Saturday and he played well against Spurs. He's only young and still learning. Going forward I don't there's anyone better than him. His defending is showing signs of improvement. Let's get behind the lad.

9.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 22:07:21
There is a top defender in Moreno if he can just remain disciplined and i'm sure he has spent the past month or so working on just that as well as watching how Milner has played. let's get behind the lad - he's been pretty solid on his two games back so far. He even looks like he's bulked up a bit.

10.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 22:28:21
One positive was the pass to Can for the goal
I am not sure if he meant it or even saw Can coming into the box or was just a hopefully ball into the danger area as there were several palace defenders near the ball but just showed more desire to get there

Negatives, at 2-1 in the last 5 mins was left stranded upfield and out of position
Last ditch flying tackles with the wrong leg trying to hook the ball, these types of tackles are reckless and can easily result in penalties or red cards
Not closing down and preventing crosses
Turning his back on attackers
The most annoying part of his play is the flinging himself to the ground once he has been caught fannying about on the ball and is about to lose possession and then tries to buy a free kick from the lightest of touches

I am not sure he has improved enough to warrant a place in the team
He is not really a youngster either 23-24.

11.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 01:45:12
Moreno does not have mental attributes to be a fullback. I don't mean to call him dumb, but he just doesn't get how to be a proper fullback. His tackling style is absolutely wild and his sense of positioning is poor. You would think it would be drummed into him by now that when you're marking and jockeying a wide man, you're supposed to force him as far to the sideline as possible. and get as close to him as possible? For Palace's second, he just gives the guy a free cross by standing yards away like an idiot with his hands behind his back! He's been doing it ever since he arrived, and you'd think he learned by now.

I don't agree that you keep Moreno in just because of this 'don't change a winning team' general rule of thumb. Milner, who is first-choice and has been doing a very solid job, doesn't deserve to be dropped just because he was ill for one game.

12.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 11:07:52
I've got t be honest, I wasn't impressed with Moreno on the weekend, caught goal side once and his attempted clearance went straight to a Palace player in a dangerous area, covered well by his teammates on that occasion but he didn't show me his spell on the sidelines have taught him much.
Don't get me wrong, he was a world away from the horror showing at Arsenal but I wouldn't keep him in the side based on this performance.

13.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 11:24:10
I would imagine Milner will be back in as soon as he recovers. We don't actually know what was up with him do we? He has been doing a brilliant job and brings his attacking skills to back up his defensive ability. He is a very much better player than some on here would give him credit for.

14.) 31 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 22:46:31
Moreno did better than many expected him to. Wasn't perfect but it's an improvement. Klopp says he's knuckling down and working hard in training so there's obviously no attitude problem, just some defensive frailties. If he keeps trying, keeps a good attitude and Keeps improving, then that's fine with me. I'd rather have that than someone with ability but a poor attitude.