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08 Oct 2019 17:29:14
Now then Ed001

Not been in here much mate, had a good read through it's good to see positivity is flowing through most posters to the site, apart from the odd or whining we are not winning every game 5zip!

Do you see us doing much in January window mate, also do you think we need to strengthen any areas in Jan? Anyone new you are aware of we are showing interest in please?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - clubs try and avoid doing business in January, we are not looking to do any, unless anyone leaves unexpectedly.}


1.) 08 Oct 2019 17:53:35
Fair enough mate thank you.

How do you think we are shaping up this season mate, obviously we are top but I mean I’m performance and tactics. We seem to be playing a little higher up the field, also we seem to be more hungry in turning draws into wins?

Long may it continue mate, a long long way to go though so my feet firmly grounded.

{Ed001's Note - we look a much better side this season than last season. Not as open, attractive and exciting, but better and more likely to get a win now.}


2.) 08 Oct 2019 20:02:57
Agree mate mostly although we have looked quite open to me at times, especially when Trent and Robbo are in the opposing half leaving a breakaway against our 2 centre halves. I get what your saying though and we are still scoring plenty of goals.


3.) 08 Oct 2019 22:45:48
Anyone care to guess how many times virgil will ask about january transfers in the next 3 months?


4.) 08 Oct 2019 23:36:35
Double figures.
Easily.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 09:07:22
He is a good lad. I bet I post more negative comments than he asks about transfers.


6.) 09 Oct 2019 13:08:00
What about now Ed001 any update? Joke😂.


7.) 09 Oct 2019 13:53:04
We are far more open than last season imo. Our full backs seem to be leaving us more exposed.


8.) 09 Oct 2019 14:10:49
Ryan Fraser is in the last year of his contract. I'd take him on the cheap in January as a backup wide-forward option. Would you agree fellow Reds?


9.) 09 Oct 2019 15:00:19
We are more open Cobra, full backs pushed on and our centre halves seem to have pushed up on the half way line when we are in possession. It’s working so far, although we have pushed our luck and conceded quite a few chances. So I guess question has to be asked if it is working? Results would say yes.


10.) 09 Oct 2019 18:01:42
Jurgen Meister. He'd possibly be available pretty cheap due to his contract situation and also the fact that he's not been in the best of form this season.

Nevertheless, he's still a player I'd like at Liverpool. I think Klopp would be able to make a really good player out of him.


11.) 10 Oct 2019 09:35:09
Whatever the number is it will be matched by the disclaimer "havent been here for a while. "


 

 

24 Sep 2019 11:28:33
Morning Ed's

Been reading just now that New Balance are trying to remain as our sponsor and compete with Nikes offer and are considering taking it to court.

How do you see this panning out?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - without seeing the contract we had with New Balance I can only speculate. It seems there must be a clause in the original deal giving them first option or the option of matching any new offer. Otherwise what would they have to go to court over? Personally I do not understand why we seem to do this with every single deal we make. Why can't we come to amicable arrangements? There is something seriously wrong with the way we do business.}


1.) 24 Sep 2019 13:34:46
Possibly just a case of getting more money from Nike. It sounds like the owners hoping Nike offer more than New Balance are willing to pay and the club get a much better deal from their point of view.
The owners are doing better as of late but too many silly things spoil the hard work. Edd 2 once said about some of our sponsors were not the right type of companys to do business with.

{Ed001's Note - and how many of the right type of companies exist? People hold up Apple as some shining beacon and went on about Steve Jobs being the great idealist to follow but forget his billions were 'earned' on the back of child slave labour. Companies are rich because they are lacking in morals and will make money any way they can. There are very few that do the right thing.}


2.) 24 Sep 2019 13:13:23
the new balance brand isn't as strong or notable as nike, but new balance items are a much superior quality to anything nike makes. i'm in the minority, but i'd hate to see us switch. we're so concerned about being viewed as a BIG CLUB though, that it seems like we've already made up our mind about going with nike. new balance linked up with us during bad times, so it would be nice to see us continue to partner together during these much better times. if new balance doesn't want to match the offer that's one thing, but if we're not honoring the essence of the agreement, then that would be really disappointing.


3.) 24 Sep 2019 13:43:09
I would happily keep New Balance as a sponsor if money was matched. Their kits seem much better than the Nike ones.


4.) 24 Sep 2019 13:54:44
i just read james pearce's article about this. the dispute is over the definition of "matching" an offer. the cash shouldn't be an issue, as new balance can probably find investors to match the fee. the issue is over the distribution networks. nike being more established worldwide, and is able to give LFC access to markets around the world that new balance cannot. how much is that worth and is it something that the contract says should be considered when giving new balance the right to match? that's likely why it's heading to court, to get clarity on that.


5.) 24 Sep 2019 14:25:57
Mftonjes is correct, from a business stand point, Nike is a much better company to make the deal with. They can distribute across the globe and real authentic Liverpool shirts will be available world wide and not sell out as fast as they do with NB. For some people abroad is near on impossible to get a shirt shipped or bought because they’re sold out. In terms of design, I’d have NB and certainly Adidas over them, in fact Adidas would be as good for business and a much better design than Nike could offer but they don’t seem to be involved. I’m not sure we’ve ever had a kit deal with Nike so here goes nothing, I just hope they keep the tone of blood red we’ve got going on in recent seasons as it’s so much nicer than the plain red we had a few seasons ago.


6.) 24 Sep 2019 14:29:38
Fair enough Ed, sounds a bit of a mess again mate. Who do you see us finishing up with mate?

{Ed001's Note - sadly seems we just want to dump NB to jump ship to Nike. Nothing against Nike but their kits are crap. The only good kits they have produced were the PSG ones they did with their Jordan brand. Now if they are going to go down that route and we have Jordan branded kits then I am happy, because they will be bespoke. Otherwise we will just be another Nike generic kit.}


7.) 24 Sep 2019 14:44:46
Ages ago when this came up my view was that it'd be good to stick with Nb, who came in board when we were avg and have steadily increased each renewal. I like their kits, if they can match the money then I'm ok with them. Not sure about the whole global reach thing, but that feels a bit like we're squabbling of pennies somehow. Anyways, hope we keep good relationships whatever we do.


8.) 24 Sep 2019 16:28:03
I think I am right in saying we extended Standard Charted 2 years ago for £20m less than the going rate. Not sure who made that decision, maybe that terrible decision is now having a knock on effect.


9.) 24 Sep 2019 17:12:23
Not that I particularly like Nike kits but I live in Canada and New Balance Canada is terrible. They have a very limited selection of Liverpool equipment and their selection for the other New Balance teams like Celtic and Porto is even worse.


10.) 24 Sep 2019 18:08:39
The other thing i wonder about is where will we sit in terms of Nike’s priorities, second to Barcelona I would say, and they’ve got lots of other football clubs. I presume new balance focus most of their football activities on us?


11.) 24 Sep 2019 18:39:18
I will also like to add it would be good if we did stick with New Balance in this period of success, not many of the bigger brands were ready to do business with us when we we not having the success we are currently having.


12.) 24 Sep 2019 19:13:23
the new balance brand isn't as strong or notable as nike, but new balance items are a much superior quality to anything nike makes. i'm in the minority, but i'd hate to see us switch. we're so concerned about being viewed as a BIG CLUB though, that it seems like we've already made up our mind about going with nike. new balance linked up with us during bad times, so it would be nice to see us continue to partner together during these much better times. if new balance doesn't want to match the offer that's one thing, but if we're not honoring the essence of the agreement, then that would be really disappointing.


13.) 24 Sep 2019 19:24:40
A very good mate of mine was recruited to Nike last month. He is a marketing guru and Liverpool fanatic. He is / was to be a senior guy on a new account for them, however announcements are being delayed. It seems due process has not been followed and it is a bit messy. But hay, this is the first time I have had a legit source to discuss anything with on this site 😉.


14.) 24 Sep 2019 21:12:14
I live in Canada too and buy a shirt through the club shop every year and they post it out to me. That way the club gets the money, and not some random shop. Support your club!

{Ed002's Note - That income for the shop is reasonably small, but the club do get more money than popping in to your local sports shop - where they get near none.}


15.) 24 Sep 2019 23:37:48
While I've no problem with NB kits, I like them more than Nike kits, what's the point when you can't buy them? 2 seasons in a row the home Jersey sold out. Think it was over a month feb/ march gone by til we restocked. And this season already the black goal keepers Jersey is not available. Its atrocious and they obviously can't handle the demand,


16.) 24 Sep 2019 23:38:39
Omg well said about Apple I've been saying this for years and no one I socialise with either cares or refuse to believe it.
I am sure it was edd 33 that told me about this several years ago.


17.) 25 Sep 2019 15:24:00
The new Nike arsenal kit is the nicest kit the league has seen in decades.


18.) 25 Sep 2019 17:39:42
The new Arsenal kit is made by adidas 🤦🏼‍♂️.


19.) 25 Sep 2019 23:18:47
This is what I love about football. The "tribalism" it creates. Here we are arguing over our "colors" despite (perhaps) being oceans apart. Really cool.


20.) 27 Sep 2019 15:36:28
Yeah I've been 90% happy with the NB designs since they came in. I'd rather stay with them than switch to Nike and their boring kits.


 

 

23 Aug 2019 09:09:16
Ed001 do we have any idea on the length of injury to AB as of yet? Club been very quite with it, is it because they don't actually no how long it will take? Lopped said a few weeks and it's just about been that, I'm guessing it's worse than first thought?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - this is tedious. They have not been quiet and it has been fully explained, by the club in their normal business and by me. There is absolutely no suggestion it is worse than thought, you are just making that up. It has always been said he will be out until after the international break. Why keep asking?}


1.) 23 Aug 2019 09:46:32
Fair enough Ed, tbh I’ve been on Hols for 2 weeks and not been on here much or read any updates on him.


2.) 23 Aug 2019 14:49:18
there's an american doctor with a great explanation of the ins and outs of what they're dealing with re alisson's injury. search for it on youtube. it's interesting and well done.

a very quick summary. it's likely a partial tear of the calf muscle, and the timetable for a return after getting injured this way is dependent on the body of the injured person. since alisson hasn't ever tore a muscle before in his professional career, they're not going to know for sure how long it will take until he's healed.

the average athlete seems to need around 6 weeks to heal with this type of injury, but could be quicker or could take a little longer, depending on how alisson's body heals.


3.) 23 Aug 2019 19:57:21
I rekon he will be back around mid-Jan.


4.) 23 Aug 2019 20:29:17
Thank you mftonjes I appreciate that in depth reply mate, I’ve not seen that write up on it but thank you for sharing it with me 👍.


5.) 26 Aug 2019 00:12:54
You're welcome. It's all speculation of course, but the doctor goes to great lengths to explain himself and provides a lot of evidence.


 

 

16 Aug 2019 13:16:05
People saying about Adrian now our injured? Bloody hell we've certainly been in the wrong end of injuries already in the early stages of the season. Allison Keita and now Adrian.

Ed001 do you no the seriousness of Adrian's injury please? Is he definitely out or a doubt. We're down to the bare bones of a 36yo 3rd choice or a young lad in Keleher?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea I am out and on my phone, I am not in touch with anything sorry.}


1.) 16 Aug 2019 13:36:12
Kloppo said he needs to be assessed in the morning, it was swollen yesterday and has improved. But it won't be definite till tomorrow.


2.) 16 Aug 2019 13:57:53
Some fan ran onto the pitch with the celebrations and collided with him he’s a swollen ankle 🤦🏻‍♂️.


3.) 16 Aug 2019 16:39:50
Idiots who think it's OK to pitch invade need to get a grip. Not just because of this incident but because of the security issue, as well as it making our fans and by association our club look bad. Klopp apparently said that fans also invaded the pitch at the Norwich game and the City game. It needs knocking on the head, and I don't see why life bans aren't dished out by the club for this sort of behaviour. Set a precedent and it'll stop soon enough.


4.) 16 Aug 2019 20:02:50
Seano, with the game being in Turkey there is the potential that it isn’t a regular visitor to Anfield.

Problem is there are plenty of idiots that want a minute of fame. loOk at the lass in the final, no intention to go to another game and got publicity by being all over the news. Tv cameras are starting to get the right idea and as soon as someone is seen pan to someone else.

If they stop being seen, it’ll be eradicated as it negates the point in doing it.


5.) 16 Aug 2019 23:10:46
If that was a tackle during the match we'd be calling it a potentially career ending tackle lol crazy man.

Also when someone is out I get excited for whoever is next coming in!


6.) 17 Aug 2019 04:11:07
Maybe WYRed but what about the Norwich game and City game one of our fans invaded the pitch then? This is clearly not an isolated incident and is something the club should clamp down on - tired of idiots ruining it for other and now, in this case, potentially ruining it for an actual player.


7.) 17 Aug 2019 09:15:09
Adrian will be fit for today don’t worry.


8.) 17 Aug 2019 19:42:26
Not the point 1jj, fans acting like arses should be punished by the club as a deterrent for other arses. It's sad that they need to do that but it seems it's the only thing within their mandate to do.


 

 

14 Aug 2019 16:33:29
Ed's are you aware if Keita is our injured for tonight's game or not please?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - fitness test for tonight.}


1.) 14 Aug 2019 18:35:52
He is out
Up the pool.


2.) 14 Aug 2019 18:58:48
So could be back for the weekend ed?

{Ed001's Note - should be.}


3.) 16 Aug 2019 10:16:26
He seems to be struggling with injuries since joining? I don't remember him being injury prone at his previous club?

Is it the training or just bad luck?


 

 

 

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09 Oct 2019 13:03:35
Hi Ed's

Just wanted your thoughts on the Club World Cup that we are paying in this year with the Quarter final on Wednesday 18th. Do you no when the final will be should we progress?

Also do you think Klopp will treat this cup as he does the Carabou and change the whole squad with Mixture of fringe players and youth?

Also do you see it as a waste of time or worth winning?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will also play on 21st regardless of the result on 18th. There is a 3rd place play off followed by the final. I have no idea who the manager will choose to play. Whilst worth winning as any competition is, it is at best a major nuisance to the club.}


1.) 09 Oct 2019 13:43:01
I think it will be taken seriously, Real Madrid who won it few times always played their galacticos in the final at least . Its all about image and star players etc .


2.) 09 Oct 2019 13:47:16
A major nuisance is a understatement Ed.


3.) 09 Oct 2019 13:55:39
Liverpool Champions of the World
OR
World Champions Liverpool

Have a nice sound and feel to it.


4.) 09 Oct 2019 14:52:50
Sounds like ideal chance for game time for likes of. Shaqiri, clyne (if fit) Adrian, lovren, origi, Elliott, Brewster etc. Maybe have a few of main players on bench incase. Rest the majority of our main players ahead of busy xmas period.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 17:20:39
I want the gold badge! It is not one we have ever won so would be good to get it.

Not to mention there is a financial gain from winning.


6.) 09 Oct 2019 17:50:42
And a winning mentality TSR keep momentum give the players some psychological boost for the second half of the season.


7.) 09 Oct 2019 23:11:08
> Maybe have a few of main players on bench incase. Rest the majority of our main players
======================
The final is most likely against the south american champion and these teams are n't a walk over, will be very competitive and owners/ Klopp and players will want to win it .
If the players made an effort of travelling there, then they might as well play and win.


 

 

03 Oct 2019 09:25:04
Good morning Ed001

On last nights game, I am pleased we got the job done and he points in the bag but jeez it was a struggle.

Gomez looked rusty but the worrying thing for me is that we looked tired. Gini Hendo and evening Fabs looked very jaded and offered little protection to the back 2. I say back 2 as our full backs spent most of the game in the opposition half of the field. We just looked so open and I've not seen a like that in a long while.

Do you think we did look tired and could be the amount of games taking its toll, or just a case of us underestimating our opponents on the night? We need to sort it for Leicester else we will struggle to get the points.

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - it was nothing to do with tiredness. It was just that it was so easy for the first 30 minutes the players took the foot off their pedal thinking they had it won and mentally relaxed. That is why the passes got sloppy and they got back into it.}


1.) 03 Oct 2019 10:51:30
As Klopp said, it was a valuable lesson learnt. You can not be complacent against any team as they all have the ability to punish you. We started being sloppy after robbos goal and them equalising gave us the kick we needed to get the job done.
Man city had a similar lesson against Norwich, the difference was we were able to also get the required result.


2.) 03 Oct 2019 11:20:55
Players defs took their foot of the pedal, but the change in tactics helps them also.

Playing the 2 on our centre backs 2 on the full backs and pushing up on Fab, didn't realy give us time to play out from the back.

But mainly our lads thinking it was a done deal.


3.) 03 Oct 2019 11:54:09
It was a great game for us. We would have learned very little if we had smashed them 6-0. Instead, we won the game and exposed weaknesses in our side that we can now address and work on. Hopefully, goal difference will end up being meaningless in our group and we can look back at this game as a 3 pt learning exercise.


4.) 03 Oct 2019 12:13:44
I was super impressed with our first 30-35mins, we were absolutely unplayable at times, and we haven’t clicked like that for a while. Thereafter I agree with Ed, we just switched off and got a bit nonchalant thinking it was all too easy. Fair play to Leipzig though, I thought they were very good value at exploiting this fact, and Minamino was exceptional in the spaces between the lines.

What impressed me also however, was how we then seemed to steady ourselves and press back for the win. Hard to do when you’ve conceded 3 in 20mins, and in previous years we wouldn’t have had the confidence to harden the f up and get back into that game. We probably would have gotten completely panicked, backed off and ended up conceding a 4th. Thought Milner and Origi really helped steady things and Origi’s hold up play when we cleared the ball was better than I’ve seen from him in a long while which helped us keep possession more.

I agree with Virgil the scare may not do us too much harm in the long run.


5.) 03 Oct 2019 12:44:41
I love the way we play and it’s a case of live by the sword die by the sword and by that I mean we take risks at the back by pushing our full backs so far forward and that was evident by Robbo’s goal. Our right back was in line with their 18 yard box crossing the ball in and our left back was in the 6 yard box scoring. Sometimes the reward outweighs the risk. Sometimes it doesn’t and bites you in the backside. Thankfully for us at the moment we seem to be coming out with the win every time.


6.) 03 Oct 2019 17:13:26
Spot on, Ed. The first 30 mins was or seemed WAY too easy for us to just get in behind them and core 3 goals. In fact, we could have scored 5 and no one would have blinked. However, RBS got enough chances too to score at least 2 goals as well. As someone said, that is the risk-reward side of our play.

What I did not like was the lack of structure, discipline and control of the whole team. Everybody's head just left the building it seemed like. Even Adrian who was sound all game, got in on the act. We were careless in possession and lacked any type of tactical nous. Against a team like RBS who IMO, are a scary team esp. on the counter with their pace and movement upfront, you are asking for trouble and we got what our slack play deserved.

However Klopp reacted brilliantly by introducing Milner who brought some calmness and structure to our team and when we steadied the ship, we got the goal (Sadio should have had a 5th) and RBS never got a sniff till the end. We must learn to control games better which to me, should be the next level of our progression and even Klopp knows that cos he has been saying it all season.

{Ed001's Note - Millie and Divvy turned the game when they came on. It is disappointing how everyone just got sloppy all at once though. That can't happen again.}


7.) 03 Oct 2019 19:47:19
ed001 I thought we was sloppy all night. but like you said it was easy and in the first 35 mins we did a few good movies and looked like we could score a will and after the 3rd went it them moves just stopped. but I thought in side the ground the atmosphere was the same I think we thought it was just turning up was good enough and it nearly was. But I don't think it was probably are best result all season because of the lesson we learnt you normally get something like that now and again to just to remind you not to take any team for granted but you normally lose or draw them so happy with the 3 points.

{Ed001's Note - hopefully it is the kick up the arse needed and not going to confirm in the players' minds that they can get away with it.}


8.) 03 Oct 2019 19:58:20
I can't imagine Klopp was very pleased with the performance. He'll make sure it doesn't happen again.


9.) 03 Oct 2019 22:00:55
I agree Milner and Origi got us back control. Milner for me is positionally our best midfielder, he can take the sting out of the game and regain control. This for me is where some of the other players can improve.

Orgi also did very well and for 2 games in a row he has really contributed to the victory. Very impressive given his lack of game time. It seems a good idea to me to give Origi more game time. Take of the least performing forward (or even midfielder) and give him 30 minutes. A good way to keep the front 3 on their toes.

Gomez is a player who needs games, when he was returning from injuries he had some poor performances for the under 23's. He really just needs a proper run in the side. Matip is playing so well it might be difficult.


10.) 03 Oct 2019 21:42:45
Our game management has been brilliant in the last 18 months or so, we tend to do enough to win and little else and almost coast until the games over while not allowing the opposing side a way back in.
So it was disappointing to see us completely switch off against RBS, that wasn’t the usual game management it was a lack of respect, you can manage a game but you can’t completely switch off from it, you’ve still got to put in some effort.
However it was also good to see us switch back on again when we needed a goal and we got that goal.
So positives and negatives from that game but at least we can learn from the negatives.


 

 

28 Sep 2019 08:41:22
Good morning Ed's

Just reading we are being investigated for fielding a ineligible player v MK Dons who, do you no anything about this please?

If so I take it we are booted out of the competition? Or maybe that's what Klopp wanted.

Have to say what a cock up if true, who shoulders the blame for it?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed002's Note - It is the responsibility of the Club Secretary to ensure registrations and paperwork are all in place at each club. It is no more than a stupid mistake. If however Klopp deliberately played Chirivella to get the club ejected from the competition, then obviously his career as a coach has finished. He would be unemployable. So that didn’t happen.

If Liverpool do not want to appear in competitions then they can simply withdraw.}


1.) 28 Sep 2019 13:06:41
Didnt Man City have a similar issue with one of their players in the same competition a few years back?

{Ed002's Note - There are a good number of examples, the most extreme being earlier this year when Junior Moraes appeared for Ukraine at International level. Manchester City - I recall one in the Women’s team. Sunderland and Wimbledon (or MK Dons - I don’t recall), Cheryshev playing got Real Madrid kicked out of the Copa del Rey a few years ago.}


2.) 28 Sep 2019 14:50:48
Sunderland played 4 league games and a cup game and got a fine. I imagine same will happen to us.


3.) 28 Sep 2019 14:51:55
The club don't think they done anything wrong, but even if they have at most it will be a fine and done with . To suggest Klopp did this deliberately is beyond moronic --sorry but its --.


4.) 28 Sep 2019 14:45:53
Thank you reply Ed002, was a stupid comment suggesting Klopp done it on purpose, I no it wasn’t done deliberately just seems a daft thing to let happen at any level. If we are thrown out the cup then I guess we deserve it.

{Ed002's Note - It will be no more than a mistake. Responsibility rests with the club secretary who has to make sure all of the clearances are in place.}


5.) 28 Sep 2019 17:04:32
Will be fine mate, it's just annoying after a week of frustrating news from the club. Hopefully we can tie up the dispute with new balance too and move on.


 

 

13 Sep 2019 19:36:53
Evening Ed001

Do you see any reasons to suggest we shouldn't be full strength tomorrow mate bar Allison? few mates think there will be 3 or 4 changes with possibly Milner Lallana Divock coming in. With no injuries surely we will be full strength against an organised Newcastle?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - it really depends on fitness tests, Milner has a good chance as he is rested. Lallana has been in the US training, but I would be surprised if there were too many changes.}


1.) 13 Sep 2019 20:17:46
Cheers Ed. Milner instead of Gini perhaps? Can’t see us changing back 4 or front 3 though mate?

{Ed001's Note - I was thinking Milner for Henderson. Gini should be flying high on confidence right now.}


2.) 13 Sep 2019 21:23:38
We can easily conclude that both Mane and Salah will start as they were not on international duty. Depending on how he feels, I would not put it past Klopp to start Bobbie with Origi come on as a sub or vice-versa. I also could see Ox starting alongside Fab (if he responds well to fitness tests) as well. Like Ed, I don't see that many changes either cos we are trying to stay top as long as possible.


3.) 13 Sep 2019 23:42:22
Salah and mane are rested, but bobby played in Brazil midweek. I’d give Divock or even Brewster a start.


4.) 14 Sep 2019 00:40:39
I'd actually let fabinho on the bench from the start, late back from Brazil duty and due to Newcastles style of midfield I think it would be the right time to rest him. We have napoli and Chelsea coming up this week and we need him for those 180 minutes. I'd play gini in his role and maybe use a fresh Milner or OX too. I'd keep our back 4 unchanged and start firmino as he's full of confidence. Give him a rest if we can get a few goals ahead.

We have 7 games in next 22 days. This is the perfect game to spare Fabinho. I could maybe see Trent getting left out in favour of Gomez away to napoli then.

No need for drastic rotation, just a player here or there when the time is best suited. Use the league cup fixture to rotate most of first 11 and we won't be needing to worry about fatigue.


5.) 14 Sep 2019 02:19:24
The Samba boys should be no where near the starting 11 against Newcastle after their USA trip. I'd go with Gini, Milner and Ox in midfield and Salah, Mane and Origi up front with one of Mane or Salah being substituted early for Shaq once we have a healthy lead over Newcastle.


6.) 14 Sep 2019 06:56:07
I would say Fabhino and Bobby will be on the bench due to their participation in the US with Brazil.


7.) 14 Sep 2019 09:03:34
Personally I would have divock for Bobby. wiji hendo and milner midfield and Gomez for Robertson at lb. I think that gives us the best chance of winning the game with a strong side and resting players that will be needed over the next 20 days and 7 games.


 

 

02 Sep 2019 10:52:34
Hi Ed001

Great win again but wanted your thoughts on the Mane losing his sh*t situation. Do you think it's all good and healthy showing that passion the fact Mo didn't pass to him, or did he over react? Do you think Klopp would of already sorted the situation out and put out any potential arguments in the dressing room between the 2 players?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - I don't even know why we are talking about this still. That kind of thing was normal once, now we have to dissect it over and over. It is done, it was a flash of frustration and that is it. Move on, the players all will have.}


1.) 02 Sep 2019 11:11:23
Best to get all the frustration out early and in a game that’s easily won, Mo needs to learn to share and that should have sunk in now.


2.) 02 Sep 2019 12:20:21
It's a nothing situation, Salah could've passed but how many times has he scored in that situation? Countless times, he's in the box and has every right to shoot, Mane had scored and he hadn't, which I'm sure ran through his mind as well. I can also understand Mane's frustration at the situation but I feel it was an overreaction. If Salah was a selfless player, he wouldn't have the ridiculous number of goals he has, Mane is also a goalscorer, all goalscorers need a bit of selfishness and more often than not our front three get the balance right between selfishness and selflessness. Anyways massive thank you to the eds and all of you posters that make my day so much better every time i come on here. The first thing i look at in the morning and last thing before bed! YNWA.


3.) 02 Sep 2019 12:52:18
I've said this on another thread.

Henderson came out and said that Mane was laughing and joking about it in the dressing room about it. There's nothing to talk about.


4.) 02 Sep 2019 14:46:37
Stop falling into medias trap. And move on. Am sure Mane, Salah, klopp etc already have. 5 wins from 5 including a trophy. After not spending anything on our 1st team. And having a poor pre season is brilliant. Focus on that lads!


5.) 02 Sep 2019 15:08:07
Klopp would have nipped it in the bud but Salah does need to pass more, especially when his team mates are in certain goal scoring positions. I counted a good two extra goals we could of got if he would of passed. The goal tally may very well be a deciding factor come the end of the season.


6.) 02 Sep 2019 15:22:43
He was dead right! I play as a box to box midfielder and have screamed my head off at teammates for not giving me a cutback after I've made up 30 yards with a late run into the box. It leaves you fuming for a few minutes but it soon passes, especially since the game was won, the performance good and mane got a goal. They'll have had a word among themsleves and that's it, move on.


7.) 02 Sep 2019 18:47:48
Spot on, Ed01. Nothing to see here. Move on.


8.) 02 Sep 2019 21:19:15
I really really hope Bobby has choreographed a goal celebration should Mane score from a Salah assist in the next match.

Something akin to Mane waving his hands about having a rant and a rave at the bench.


 

 

 

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09 Oct 2019 15:00:19
We are more open Cobra, full backs pushed on and our centre halves seem to have pushed up on the half way line when we are in possession. It’s working so far, although we have pushed our luck and conceded quite a few chances. So I guess question has to be asked if it is working? Results would say yes.

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09 Oct 2019 13:08:00
What about now Ed001 any update? Joke😂.

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08 Oct 2019 20:02:57
Agree mate mostly although we have looked quite open to me at times, especially when Trent and Robbo are in the opposing half leaving a breakaway against our 2 centre halves. I get what your saying though and we are still scoring plenty of goals.

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08 Oct 2019 17:53:35
Fair enough mate thank you.

How do you think we are shaping up this season mate, obviously we are top but I mean I’m performance and tactics. We seem to be playing a little higher up the field, also we seem to be more hungry in turning draws into wins?

Long may it continue mate, a long long way to go though so my feet firmly grounded.

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{Ed001's Note - we look a much better side this season than last season. Not as open, attractive and exciting, but better and more likely to get a win now.}


 

 

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29 Sep 2019 19:57:32
Any ideas who we be a possibility Ed02 for the LM and AM slots, or is it to early to tell? Also I take it we are talking about the Summer when we no what’s happening with the likes of Milner, Lallana etc.

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16 Oct 2019 17:16:55
He Wiltshire, I’ve had the same thoughts about Brewster tbh but he did look very good before his injury. I’m sure he will get his chances when injury’s to the front 3 happen.

Big shout with the 3 zip prediction though mate? Wish I was as confident as you and most other reds. Utd will pretty much be at full strength AWB Shaw Pogba Martial all returning. Adding to James, Rashford, etc they will certainly not be a toll over and very dangerous with pace on the break. Trent and Andy will need to be in position ready for there attacks. Draw at best for me mate.

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14 Oct 2019 20:47:21
Cheers mate great news. Although I hate playing Utd at OT they always up there game against us and I have a horrid feeling in the pit of my stomach about the result.

Mr negative. I no, I hear ya.

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{Ed001's Note - the worse they are, the better they tend to do against us. So I am worried too as they are the worst I can ever remember right now!}


 

 

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14 Oct 2019 17:22:50
Good to hear Ed001, although Adrian has done well. Do you no if Matip and Salah should be ok to play?

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14 Oct 2019 09:49:15
Lol leave Hendo alone Ed025 for at least a month mate. I challenge you not to mention him lol.

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{Ed025's Note - i have actually not mentioned hendo for a while virgil, i know how much you all like him so i respect all your views, but when he is donning the england shirt then he is fair game as are any players who under perform, and in particular keane and pickford who should not be anywhere near the national side imo mate..


 

 

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06 Oct 2019 11:59:12
I saw that after the Peno was scored Ed, just don’t get why Perez was so angry. Did summin happen previous before we scored the pen?

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{Ed001's Note - I have just explained it, why does it have to be more? If you seen the incident then you will know Robbo and him had words then and it just carried on from there. I don't see what there is to get.}