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20 Jul 2019 12:40:09
Watched the boys against Dortmund. Only one game it was, but Kent simply isn't good enough for the first team yet. Wilson, on the other hand, looked an adequate understudy for the front three. Makes me feel less anxious about our lack of activity in the market, to be honest.

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1.) 20 Jul 2019 13:09:00
Mate, it is not like City have been very active either.

We are not going to sign any players which are deemed for a starting place.

Think our fans need to accept that fact.


2.) 20 Jul 2019 13:21:25
Whilst there is no doubt our squad is strong and excellent, it simply has too be said it's not as strong as man city's, city were better than us last season an they have strengthened there weak areas, this cannot be said of us, if we are going to put faith in the likes of ryan Kent, Adam lewis, larouci, these lads have not played 1 minute of prem footy and it's a whole different ball game too wat there used too, I am more comfortable with harry wilson an brewster as I believe they have the mentality too adapt, I just think with city going from strength too strength as champions league winners we could at least add 2 players too make our weak areas stronger. We have said we want too win the league but we won't do that by standing still.


3.) 20 Jul 2019 13:28:43
Were City better than us by winning the league by 1 point Hailstones?

Very fine margins and veriables.

{Ed025's Note - of course they were better...they won it which makes you losers im afraid mate..thats basics..


4.) 20 Jul 2019 13:16:29
Yeah I'm with you max.


5.) 20 Jul 2019 13:16:29
Yeah I'm with you max.


6.) 20 Jul 2019 13:43:44
I have said for a long time now we should be keeping Harry wilson, if we want to compete for all competitions he's the sort of kid we want in the squad. However watching last night's match I thought he was out of his depth, he doesn't press with the intelligence of the others. Needs to work on this if he is to stay!


7.) 20 Jul 2019 14:01:01
Look at the games against us they were better, even at anfield we were lucky too get away with a point with mahrez missing a penalty, let me ask you this do u think our squad man for man is stronger than theres? , do u think city are stronger than us in our weak areas e. g cover at left an right back, creativity in midfield, depth in attack with world class talent . Ask yourself that an think are we really strong enough too go one better .


8.) 20 Jul 2019 14:11:28
City are a different team Hailstones.

They won the League by 1 point.

To suggest they were better than us when we had our best ever season in the EPL and pushed them till the very last game?

Variables.

You can go on abot the games we drew. We lost one match the whole season. Pretty much scored as much as City, conceded less.

They beat us while losing more matches than us.

We proved that we are a match for City, irrespective of them being Champions winning by 1 point while the rest of the League sat back and watched.


9.) 20 Jul 2019 14:23:14
Ok then max your opinion is this current squad does not need cover or strengthening, let's see how the season pans out I hope our squad is strong enough and it would be ideal but I ain't buying it . don't forget we play fifa world club, we have too fly round the world mid season also all the cups + European competition we will need too be hitting the ground running each time, let's see how we deal with it .


10.) 20 Jul 2019 14:33:41
I never said we do not need cover Hailstones.

Do you realise that the players we target have expectations?

I am pretty sure you have seen Ed002 mention that we have had discussions about Pepe.

There is a reason why we will not blow a record transfer fee on Pepe as he will not sign unless he starts.

Do you understand that?


11.) 20 Jul 2019 14:59:15
I totally understand that, but in order too get stronger than last season and we have said we want too win the league and fight on all fronts, I am not saying spend the earth on players I am saying be creative and bring personnel who can challenge and step in as an when required we only need 2 or 3 maximum too do that, FROM A POSITION OF STRENGTH WHY NOT GET STRONGER.


12.) 20 Jul 2019 15:14:37
Soon as I see "city have" I have this boredom come over me and scroll to the bottom only stopping to read Ed's comments (bravo ed25 made me chuckle as usual) seriously we are liverpool who cares what city are doing watch your own team and support them and hope we are top by the end of the season we have a full season of fab kieta ox Gomez and if salah stays he won't be starting the season stressing over his shoulder seriously enjoy the ride we will sign who is good for the team maybe building the youth up now we have a competitive team for years to come.


13.) 20 Jul 2019 15:16:46
Hailstones, do you reckon the club have not been working on targets?

In all honesty you are in la la land if you believe the club LFC do not want to sign players.

As I have stated, the players we have targeted like Pepe, which we have had discussions with even Cornet.

You are clutching at straws if you keep on believing Klopp is not willing to add players.


14.) 20 Jul 2019 15:27:45
I didn't once say he doesn't want too sign players, the thing that concerns me is having faith in certain players who will not take us onto the next level and carry on winning trophies an leagues .


15.) 20 Jul 2019 15:31:18
Surely if we want to maintain our elite status we loan kent and wilson to leeds under biesla and sign havertz? Job done.


16.) 20 Jul 2019 15:43:55
Having faith in certain players Hailstones?

What do you mean? Which 1st team starters do we need to get rid of and then finding new homes for Lallana and Shaqiri.

Maybe you do not grasp the current size of our squad and that adding new players is should not be about filling spots in the squad unless it is on based on improving our first team.

Who would you like us to add to improve on Origi?


17.) 20 Jul 2019 16:01:39
We don't need players we need winners.
And now we have winners too. We are going to be too hot to handle next season.
2020 english league is coming home.


18.) 20 Jul 2019 16:14:22
Citeh got one more point than us in the EPL but we got number 6.

If we did the same again next season I would take that.

Pep will be off to pastures new most likely after next season and Citeh will suffer a reaction.

Klopp ha been putting foundations in place for the next 5 years.


19.) 20 Jul 2019 16:21:07
Job done!, we now have winners!, we can rule the world now! Sorry how could I have not taken that into account!


20.) 20 Jul 2019 16:23:14
Ed002, our most reliable source has said he expects a vesatile forward to arrive at Anfield. Please forget about Pepe.

Please be patient. Oh and this player will not be on the level to replace Mane, Salah or Firminho.

End of the story and if that players does not arrive, please do not throw your toys out of the cot.


21.) 20 Jul 2019 16:51:16
It's an opinion, deal with it .


22.) 20 Jul 2019 17:17:57
Do people not realise city have lost kompany? A massive reason behind them winning the league . Also David Silva and aguero are another year older and will start to fade away . Sterling will not have the same impact this season as last in my opinion . Our players are in their prime and youthful . City are ageing.


23.) 20 Jul 2019 17:44:16
I’m with you Hailstones - City won three domestic cups last season, how many cups have we won in the last 10 years?


24.) 20 Jul 2019 18:07:36
Drogie, has Pep won the CL with City, let alone made it to a final with them?


25.) 20 Jul 2019 18:11:39
You hit the nail on the drogie, I don't want our champions league win being a flash in the pan, it would be nice too go for being the best team in the league and dominate, we have never been better situated since we last won the league .


26.) 20 Jul 2019 18:21:49
I love liverpool, i have all my life. But the answer is yes. City were better than us - in the league. To debate that fact verges on the ridiculous. Especially as it could be said that city won it by beating us at the ethiad.

On the other hand, we were clearly better in europe. Partly because liverpool are a huge club with a proud history. City are a big club, of course, but they don't have a history of big european nights like we do.

If you need proof of these things look into the trophy cabinets of both teams.

I will say this though. Leicester won the league a few years ago and i don't think any of us would say they were the best team in england. Maybe they were. Maybe they just hit a perfect chemistry that season.

But i wouldn't worry, there really wasnt much in it.


27.) 20 Jul 2019 18:32:05
Pep has won the league an we haven't for nearly 30 years, can you think of the last team that has won champions league but not won their own league for 30 years, I can't . All this being said our club is so special we can get away with it .


28.) 20 Jul 2019 18:59:14
City won the league without Pep Hailstones.


29.) 20 Jul 2019 19:21:04
But not without oodles of money!


30.) 20 Jul 2019 19:21:26
Hailstones - bringing in new players is not the only way to improve a squad. Age is a massive factor and liverpool are moving into their prime. City on the other hand do have some older players and have of course lost kompany. Confidence is another big factor and ours has gone way way up after no6.

I think we have been spoilt regarding signings in recent windows. 75mil on a cb, 50 odd mil on a keeper. 50mil on a cm 40mil on another. We don't have the same financial resources that city do. Thinking we can match them pound for pound, signing for signing is just wishful thinking.

At the end of the day, we DID challenge. There are tonnes of examples of new signings actually having a detrimental effect on a team. We have an excellent defence, one of the worlds best. We have a wealth of resources in midfield, different horse for different courses. And we have possibly the best front 3 on the planet, certainly in England.

So why get stressed over some forward cover? Or a lb who won't play much? Yes, robbo needs pushing, but he strikes me as a highly motivated lad and quite humble with it.
And origi is a legend! Look what he did for the team last season. I don't think his ability is in question anymore. he's no henri but he is easily good enough to cover our forwards and he is good enough to sink a confident Barcelona. I don't know how you can question his ability.

3 years ago chelsea won the league in magnificent style and everyone expected them to win it the next season. I don't think they made the europa league. There is no guarantee that city will make 98 points again, there's no guarantee that we will either. Ill be surprised if we do get near that tbh.


31.) 20 Jul 2019 13:44:49
Lol Ed025. Show me another team finishing on the points we did last season in 2nd.

Very fine margins, FACT!

{Ed025's Note - fine margins indeed max, but in the world of dog eat dog nobody remembers the losers im afraid..


32.) 20 Jul 2019 14:37:43
Losers ed? We are the champions of Europe pal so that makes us winners! Facts!

{Ed025's Note - you are great at cup competitions virgil and deserve all the plaudits you get...but in the league you are indeed...LOSERS as you have failed to win the premier league since its inception, or am i wrong mate?..


33.) 20 Jul 2019 19:59:19
Max, City have just won back to back titles, with the FA cup and league cup to top off last season.

Forget the CL, they have won more trophies in 2 seasons than we have in 10 years

When you consider how successfull Fergie was with United, his European success was not great. So I’m afraid your CL statement is pretty poor mate.

If you think we’re capable of challenging on all four fronts then you’re deluded mate.


34.) 20 Jul 2019 20:09:05
Hailstones is right, you always look to improve when you are on top as that is how you stay there. let's not pretend Liverpool are so good that there are no weaknesses to improve on. I am talking about just 1 or 2 players, of which I still expect to arrive before the window shuts.
Man City were not lucky, they were just outstanding over an entire season with an amazing points total and a superior squad to Liverpool. City will be favourites to win again this season and I would hope Liverpool improve their squad for the battle ahead.


35.) 20 Jul 2019 20:12:13
Yes losers, but i would say runners up.


36.) 20 Jul 2019 20:24:57
And we have got better and better since klopp arrived. If the improvement continues then all we can do is either win it or lose on goal difference.


37.) 20 Jul 2019 20:18:15
Sorry 25 but it’s a name change with a huge injection of cash nothing else, just like the champions league is a name change along with the league cup.

If anything, it’s the sole reason United we’re able to “knock Liverpool off their perch “ - just ask Martin Edwards.

{Ed025's Note - i know its a name change drogie but its been 30 years of that trophy mate and thats far too long for a club like liverpool, so for the past 30 years you have been the same as everton mate...LOSERS in the title race and thats a fact..


38.) 20 Jul 2019 20:43:21
You Eds must have a laugh at times lol.

{Ed025's Note - we do mate..


39.) 20 Jul 2019 21:04:57
This is a going to be a telling season boys, let the haters, hate.
We are the champions, Champions ofEurope.

{Ed025's Note - im not a hater tyler i just tell it like it is mate, and yes you are the deserved champions of europe..


40.) 20 Jul 2019 21:22:26
Not disputing that 25 mate, we all go through a baron spell without winning the league mate, Chelsea went 50 years, City were 44 years, United 26 years and Everton 32 years.

My point being, you mentioned we hadn’t won the league since the inception of the premier league. All I hear is this this rubbish saying “ Liverpool haven’t won the Premier League “

Folk would be taken a lot more seriously if they purely said, Liverpool haven’t won the league for 30 years.

I mean, we’re record holders for the league cup, 8 times but not winning the Carabao cup makes us losers?


41.) 20 Jul 2019 21:28:56
Got to agree with Hailstones and especially greenflash.


42.) 20 Jul 2019 22:39:53
Sorry Acered, I do not agree with you nor Hailstones. I think there is just a lot of moaning going on cos Klopp will not do what certain people want. Hailstones and his like, want us to break the bank and sign say, Pepe for about 80m with NO idea how he will fit into the team cos he wants to start. If you want to sign a player for say 80m for him to sit on the bench (cos the front three start all the time), you are digging your own grave as a club.

Why? If that player isn't playing regularly and trying to pay that sum back in terms of starts and production, your investment is not working for you and in Finance, we call that dead money. Even Klopp said a player like Insigne (who would cost a tonne) said that he won't come to sit on the bench/ rotate YET some still moan needlessly about these things.

Referencing City all the time, is a dumb argument to make cos a) They can afford to to do that and b) Their star players like Sane, Mahrez, Jesus and even Gundogan, don't want to be on the bench and have been openly complaining about leaving if things don't change. Sane was close to leaving for Bayern already this season and we know Jesus is at his wits' end with being on the bench majority of the time. We cannot afford to do that at LFC with the way our finances are. The Ed's say this all the time BUT people act as if they don't know.

Ed02 has said that for us to sign top players in the first 11, someone has to leave YET people still moan about the bleeding obvious as if they don't know what the plan is. You may not agree with the plan but the premise and logic behind it is sound. But don't act as if you don't know what the plan is and then act shocked and moan cos Klopp is not doing what you want.


43.) 20 Jul 2019 23:01:54
City won the league but we won the champions league. That makes us even in my book.
Both could’ve been reversed with 1 decision going the other way too. Kompany could’ve been sent off against us (should have been) and the VAR goal for them against Spurs.
Point is the teams are so close it’s pointless arguing who is better. 1 moment in a season could’ve meant the trophies being dished out differently, that’s how close it is.


44.) 20 Jul 2019 23:08:56
Hailstones and Drogie your both correct.


45.) 21 Jul 2019 01:55:26
I hate this notion that we were failures in the league last season just because city were better than us. Even though we finished 2nd, we lost 1 game and got an unbelievable 97 points. 28 of the last 30 leagues that tally would have convincingly won every title. We have to appreciate we are unlucky to have our strongest team in the same years as city have created the strongest ever PL performances.

We made huge ground up on a city team that did not weaken, we have a well settled squad with room to only get better, let's not compare us only to city's near unmatchable benchmark, they can very quickly drop that standard in the next year or 2 and we have a squad built already to only improve in the next few years. Positive times guys, bigger picture is exciting for us.


46.) 21 Jul 2019 03:55:00
Ok so city are going to be without Kompany and possibly Sane. They have got Rodri to replace fernandinho long term.


We are looking for cover players i. e. an attacking option and an FB cover.

If we don't get either. We would be short on Cover. Clyne and Ox/ Brewster are the players Klopp seems to think as cover players. so unless we sell some one I do not expect incoming.

A. Lewis and Lachouri will replace Moreno.
Brewster has replaced Strud.

We will missing Ox Gomez Lallana for almost whole of last season. So when all fit our squad is actually Stronger then last season.


47.) 21 Jul 2019 07:15:32
I think hailstones is right.

We need to sign players. The academy kids aren't good enough. They never play games so they will never be good enough because to get good enough you need to play. In fact close down the academy, we will save tons of money from not having one and we can just go all out and spend 300m every season even if our first eleven is good enough then we can have two teams of world class players half of which will be perfectly happy to sit on the bench all season and play 5- 10 games when a player is injured.

Just in case people are unsure that was all sarcasm.

The idea that we should have 3 or 4 world class players in every position is ludicrous. No team has ever done that. Even dominant teams from the past like Madrid, Barca, Milan, united did not have 15-22 world class players. They had 11 or less and filled their bench with youth players or decent back ups.

City also did this. People point to sane etc but ignoring the fact that those players are unhappy at city and want to leave city did not buy world class players for the bench. They were young understudies to older more experienced players.


There's no way a current first team international will come to Liverpool to sit on the bench for most of the season. Especially not foreigners, no matter how 'great and historic ' Liverpool is. We need to give this mentality up of thinking we are Liverpool and we are super special because even home grown players like Owen and macca can't wait to leave when they feel their career is stalling so why would foreigners trying to stay in their national team want to?

Whether we like it or not modern players feel entitled to play, especially when they have been bought for record fees so suggesting buying Pepe or another winger will come and happily sit on the bench is dumb.


48.) 21 Jul 2019 10:27:03
Several posters here criticising Hailstones opinion should read back what he says, not once did he say that Liverpool should spend £300 million on transfers. He simply said he would like 2 to 3 players brought in to improve our squad.
There are areas of the team that need improving and that is obvious and even Ed01 and 2 have stated the same. You stay on top by becoming stronger.
As for some of you saying we were equal with Man City in the league, if Kompany had been sent off and VAR had had been used in another game we would have won the league, just nonsense.
It looks like Hailstones, Drogie, Waro, Acered and myself won't be winning the 'Superfan' title this year. Nevermind.


49.) 21 Jul 2019 12:02:09
I agree with a lot of the posters. History has shown that teams which do not strengthen come to regret it.
This year is a great opportunity to get quality players into some of our weaker areas and also when you look at our front three playing for 11 months and no preseason I think we are asking for trouble not getting some backup into the club.

In my opinion we need a LB, A / M and CF as cover and to compete for the fist team place, minimum. We should always be trying to improve our players and team.
Personally I don't care about this talk of blocking younger players, they are getting well paid to learn their trade, if they are good enough they will play.


50.) 21 Jul 2019 12:11:42
Nevada, I think everyone realised the sarcasm as it wasn't very subtle. It's all just excuses, "why do people want to spend £300 million every season" "why would top players come to just sit on the bench", all this is just smoke and mirrors to distract from what kind of club we are and have been since 2010.


51.) 21 Jul 2019 13:28:20
Love your post, Nevada. Btw, I've been to Vegas and me and my lovely wife stayed at the MGM Hotel. Talk about decadence.


52.) 21 Jul 2019 13:34:00
Only a bitter Neverton fan would call a team that got pipped to the PL by one point after amassing near 100 points that season (97 to be exact), losers. In my book, that team is termed as Worthy Opponents.


53.) 21 Jul 2019 23:51:23
Theres no pleasing some fans. I mean, how is klopp even a manager!? He came to us, a club that doesn't have the same financial resources of many of our rivals. We overtake them all bar one who we are right behind. He has taken us to 3 European finals, winning the big one.

Why haven't we signed 3 world class players?! We clearly need it!

Guys we are champions of Europe. Enjoy it. We have broken our transfer fee record a few times in the last few seasons. Last summer we spent a fortune. You can't expect that kind of spending every year.

That said im sure we will see someone joining soon. A young winger i reckon. But it won't be an 80mil pepe. Not unless salah leaves. But who would you rather have? Pepe or Salah? Doesn't deserve an answer.

These posts that are basically calling klopp an co a bunch of fools is winding me up tbh. We just won the European Cup for fowler's sake.


54.) 21 Jul 2019 23:35:07
Well said redwolf.

We have three seniors who can play lb, 4 who can play rb. We have 4 senior ams including henderson. We are a little light up front and on the preseason games i am not convinced wilson and kent are there yet. But we do have brewster and origi, with shaq, aoc and lallana who can play up top.

I don't think we NEED signings. As redwold pointed out, we have a plan that is working. Signing a player for 80mil to sit on the bench is absolutely ridiculous, listen to yourselves. Ill be happy if we get the lad cornet. If we get a young lb too then great. But if there are no signings i won't be that disappointed. We have a brilliant squad.


 

 

 

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30 Jan 2021 06:30:00
Long-time Reds supporter here in the U. S. I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by the Aaron Long rumor (yes I know, we don't spell it as "rumour" over here, sorry) . I've seen him play quite a few times. Can he defend well enough to do a job for Liverpool? Probably, for what Liverpool need him for, and he's arguably better than Williams or Phillips in this aspect. Is he good enough with the ball at his feet? No. Not at all. Do with this what you will.

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12 Jul 2019 04:48:51
Work ethic off the ball can be encouraged and its value can be taught. Willfully choosing not to do it is a different problem altogether. Attitude is as important as talent. If this truly is the sole problem for Wilson, it's time to move on.

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26 Jun 2019 02:23:30
ESPN here in the States have reported that the club specifically informed ESPN that Michael Edwards personally called Lille to explain to Lille that Liverpool have no interest whatsoever in the player. Assuming this is true, I find it quite interesting.

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