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16 Aug 2019 11:22:23
Im at work but a mate just told me Adrian is not fit to play on Saturday and our new keep Andy L is going to play instead please tell me he is pulling my leg Ed001.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any injury to Adrian.}


1.) 16 Aug 2019 11:53:00
He injured his ankle during the after match celebrations, and is indeed a doubt for tomorrow.


2.) 16 Aug 2019 12:33:18
Adrian was injured by a fan who was being chased by security. He slipped and 2 footed Adrian. Doubtful for tomorrow.

Looks like we won't see Keita until after the international break.

{Ed025's Note - typical..


3.) 16 Aug 2019 12:34:05
a fan ran onto the field and hit his ankle while sliding. Video is on the Echo.


4.) 16 Aug 2019 12:43:52
That’s correct, fan ran on and slipped into Adrián. His ankle is swollen, might make it tomorrow.

{Ed025's Note - or...typical liverpool drunken thug flouts security by invading the pitch and injures goalkeeper..


5.) 16 Aug 2019 13:41:28
The fan who ran on and 2 footed him had a Ed025 T shirt on.

{Ed025's Note - not guilty JK....i cant run that far mate..


6.) 16 Aug 2019 14:31:20
You could play in Everton’s midfield then Ed025. They don’t run that far either mate.

{Ed025's Note - your not far wrong there JK..


7.) 16 Aug 2019 18:04:44
Those ed25 fans are a disgrace.

{Ed025's Note - if they thought it was me shents...they might arrest george clooney, im his doppleganger mate.. :)


8.) 16 Aug 2019 18:28:40
It was actually a Southampton fan.

{Ed025's Note - its a wonder that pep has not been cited, he usually gets it in the neck on these pages amerigo..


9.) 16 Aug 2019 18:50:45
Adrian will play with a slight booboo to his ankle no need to panic.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 18:19:11
Matip getting a new deal?
that would be a very brave one from Klopp if true.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 24 Apr 2019 19:05:46
I don't see why, honestly don't know why he gets half the stick he does. He's perfect for what he is, a back up centre half to the main pairing which, when Gomez is fit is Joe and Virgil. I also think we as Liverpool fans compare our other centre halves to Van Dijk now which is unfair as he's the best defender i've ever seen in the Premier League. Matip would comfortably get into the likes of Man U's and Arsenals first 11's and he's never kicked off when out of the side. Obviously we'd all like a De Ligt or a Alderweireld buts its very hard and unrealistic to expect to have four world class centre halves at 1 club.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 19:15:23
Not old ”give them a new deal just prior to punting them around” scam?

I like the kid but wouldn't be confident starting a season with him as 3rd choice CB behind JG and VVD.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 19:22:48
agreed little naby. can't have 4 1st choice CBs and Matip has done a job for us no doubt.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 19:32:55
Unnecessary hate, on the verge of trolling. We are on our biggest winning streak since Klopp took over and he’s started every game bar one. The Hendo bashers obviously have a new target. I agree he’s better than any of united and Arsenal’s defenders. Definitely an excellent third choice cb.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 20:02:20
Lerchy, I'm a HUGE Hendo lover and I think Matip is not good enuff for us long term.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 21:29:18
But he hasn’t put a foot wrong since January? Who would you replace him with? Realistically not fm.


7.) 24 Apr 2019 22:06:08
I don’t rate Matip and believe he is someone we can improve upon.
BUT

Where are the fantastic centre backs who will be 3rd choice? I doubt they’re out there and it is responsible to protect the squad in this way.


8.) 24 Apr 2019 22:44:11
Well said Ron.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 23:06:46
Matip is 3rd choice at centre half, and yes, he is not good enough for the 1st team, but I am happy enough for him to be a back up,
its Lovren who needs replacing, cos the man just can't stay fit, its a long hard season, and we don't need passengers if we want to stay as a top side,
we def need to keep on adding one or two class players, this will keep us at the top .


10.) 24 Apr 2019 23:12:50
he's perfect for us. unless he wanta to leavto be a regular starter then ok fair enough. but other than that as 3rd or 4th choice, he is experienced and steady enough.


11.) 24 Apr 2019 23:18:01
There are not many great centre backs in football anyway, Joel Matip has been a great back up in my opinion. As Ron said there are no fantastic centre backs happy to be third choice.
Even if Liverpool bought a so called top centre back, where would that leave Gomez.
Matip is not as terrible as he is made out and gets too much stick here. He has definitely made a positive contribution to the team so maybe he deserves a new contract as a backup defender.


12.) 24 Apr 2019 23:39:06
Ron, I rate Matip higher than you do but I agree 100% with the rest of your post. Well said.


13.) 24 Apr 2019 23:58:11
Maybe not longterm Redwolf but even having him as backup allows Jana-Hoever to learn his trade as back up to Trent at rightfull until he moves inside. What does it say to him if we keep buying big names to block his path because this kid could be our very own De Ligt. At the end of the day we have two world class centre halfs and two top end defenders in reserve. Show me a team in this league that's better stocked at centre half.


14.) 25 Apr 2019 01:51:01
Lerchy you say he hasn't put a foot wrong since January? How do you come up with that assessment? He's been exposed in the majority of matches. he so often gets dragged out of position and commits to challenge unnecessary tackles. If he gets a foot in everybody cheers and claps, but most of the time he shouldn't even be putting himself in scenarios,! You don't see virgil sprinting out to wide areas 50 yards from goal with little threat on just to make an unnecessary tackle, he often needlessly risks us being left wide open when he should focus on maintaining shape. You can see VVDs frustration with him many times during games.


15.) 25 Apr 2019 07:50:56
No axe to grind with Matip and believe he's a better backup than Lovren, but I really think Gomez needs to be back in the team asap as I think he'll be a better bet for these last 5/ 6 games we're about to play!


16.) 25 Apr 2019 07:56:02
All these experts who want Matip gone - are you really a better judge of player than Klopp?


17.) 25 Apr 2019 08:06:46
FlashTheRed. Not at all, just stating my personal opinion of him through watching him play. I don't have an axe to grind with him for no reason, he's just the one player who I really don't rate. And your point with klopp has no basis anywat. When all CB were fully fit and available he was the 4th choice clearly.

I just don't rate him personally, and I hate having to criticise any of our boys.


18.) 25 Apr 2019 09:57:43
If Matip is meant to be fourth choice then he is way ahead of Klavan before him, and marginally behind Lovren, if at all.


19.) 25 Apr 2019 10:05:11
Matip was getting brickbats in the first half of the season because he was clearly playing poorly. His second half has been a clear improvement, and as good as the first year he joined. So it's all relative to player form and performance, as it should be.


20.) 25 Apr 2019 13:15:32
I think he's a decent choice for a 3rd or 4th choice defender for Liverpool, but as I keep saying any time this topic arises, our 3rd and 4th choice CBs (in most people's eyes) are earning over £200k a week in total, and that's not sustainable, especially when you consider that big Virg will no doubt be after a rise, and Joe's wages are only going to go up as soon as he cements himself as a first choice.

Fair play to Matip, he's played his part in our fantastic season more than Lovren has, which probably puts him as 3rd choice, it's just the financials that I have an issue with.


21.) 25 Apr 2019 14:07:56
I think right now, going by improvement shown and fitness consistency, I'd be more inclined to let Lovren go and maybe get a younger CB (not world class, but decent) to compete with Matip for 3rd and 4th place.

Joe and Virgil are our clear top pairing. Someone who can compete with Matip (and potentially improve
a little) would be good. Lovren earns a big wage which might be a bit too much now for a 4th choice CB that's injured quite a bit.

I mean, he did well with Croatia and LFC getting to the WC and CL finals, but it might be time for him to move on now for his own good too if he's dropped to 4th choice.


22.) 25 Apr 2019 14:24:24
Matip's done great these past few weeks, Klopp got him for nothing and obviously rates him.

I'd rather we ca$hed in on World Cup Finalist Lovren and spent that money on a tried and tested as backup to Gomez and Matip (if we can find one) or promote one of the yutes. Looks like you can put anyone next to VVD and he'll play well.

Gotta trust in Klopp, Shirley?


23.) 25 Apr 2019 15:06:21
By far the biggest issue I have with Matip is he’s a big lad, very tall, but he seems scared of the ball in the air. He loses far too many challenges in the air but also, if a ball is going over the top, he let's it bounce behind him!
That is the number 1 cardinal sin for a central defender. Never, ever, EVER let the ball bounce behind you! Matip must have missed that basic principle. It’s easily rectified and to be fair it’s a good few months since I’ve seen him do it, but it used to happen almost every game.
Other than that infuriating trait, he’s as good a back up as we’ve had for a while and it makes sense to keep him around 👍.


24.) 25 Apr 2019 17:31:41
Look im not a big fan of matip personally, but he's wearing our red liverbird upon his chest and I'l always support and back him when he does so and he does try his best but his ability is limited and it frustrates me that some overlook his match performances as a whole. He's a very weak link and has got away with a lot of incidents which could easily have had many fans calling for his head.

I know this is ifs and buts. but in about 4 weeks there were 4 clear incidents which he was very fortunate to get away with. Against United the offside flag saved his blushes as he swiped a clearance with his wrong leg into our goal. It was correctly offside but matip didn't know that and defended the situation poorly.
In the same week he attempted the exact same clearance with his wrong leg against bayern. The ball hit Allison's chest fortunately, no one spoke of this ever again, he was at fault vs Southampton goal then.
Against spurs his rash decision to lunge desperately at Kane on halfway line directly led to sissoko going 1v1. If he slots that in which he should then the title dream was probably vanished then.

Now I'm not bashing the guy completely I'm just pointing out moments which could have cost us dearly, they haven't though so he's been excused from criticism. He has performed slightly better lately but is always vulnerable in any moment. It's also clear to see how Trent has struggled much more with matip beside him. I know it's all ifs and buts. but he does make many errors which go unnoticed by many. If we win silverware this season he's earned his medals and has played his part but if we want a CB who may need to slot in for months at a time in the future then I feel matip needs upgrading. Feels harsh saying this as we're in a purple patch but the fact remains he is 8 or 9 times out of ten our weakest performer and most vulnerable.

Just clarifying I'm not bashing the fella, he's just not the standard of defender we should settle for as competition in a world class defence.


25.) 25 Apr 2019 17:21:43
Isn't it time Masterson stepped up 20yrs old now.

Oh and don't call me Shirley.

Was that airplane or naked gun?


26.) 25 Apr 2019 17:26:26
This move surprised me, because I expected Lovren to be cover to Virgil and Gomez next season. I'm fine with Matip though. Like a backup QB in the NFL, the plan isn't to go into the season with him as your primary option, but you also don't want your season derailed because he has to play for a stretch of games because someone is injured. I like Lovren more, but it may be a better use of resources to sell Lovren (and his contract) and go with Matip. Lovren is too good to sit in long stretches too, so maybe it's just time to move on so he can go get more playing time elsewhere.


27.) 25 Apr 2019 18:29:18
He hasn't been offered a contract yet and there has just been a mention of talks opening. He may well have the ambition to ask for playing guarantees (a beast that the Eds have said is a key element of a players contract nowadays) and I can't imagine a huge financial increase so he may look for sureties elsewhere and turn down a bit part role.


28.) 25 Apr 2019 23:33:00
If im not mistaken we have conceded just 20 Goals this season, less than any other team in the PL. Some of you need to get a grip. Matip has been a part of that and if you look at the stats when he has played I think you will all find that he is a valuable member of the squad not on a huge wage either and bought for peanuts. As a player that will never be first choice he is more valuable than you think.


29.) 26 Apr 2019 13:23:25
I'm pretty sure he is on a huge wage.


30.) 26 Apr 2019 13:31:03
I doubt any of our centre backs will look to leave this summer, realistically its their best chance of a prem title, assuming we don't win it this year.


31.) 26 Apr 2019 18:19:17
I'd assume the contract talks will involve a pay cut. You have to remember that he's on higher wages than normal due to him being signed on a free.


 

 

06 Aug 2018 13:25:08
Just wanted to know if any of the eds had the latest info regarding clyne
Surely he can't be staying here for another season but if he is I will support him as per usual but really hope he gets a move somewhere else as he really hurts us attacking wise when he plays.
Decent enough player but I think our style of play and tactics don't suit his strengths.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - there has been little interest in him due to his injuries last season.}


1.) 06 Aug 2018 13:49:23
A bit late now to get a good right back in, I don't see him going anywhere. As poor as he is offensively, he's pretty good defensively and we need that more than his attacking attributes.


2.) 06 Aug 2018 14:19:37
personally I see Clyne as 2nd choice RB this season with Gomez being an option for CB. Matip will likely spend a lot of time injured so I reckon they'll be enough games for Gomez at CB and Clyne is decent enough to play a few cup games at RB.


3.) 06 Aug 2018 18:28:19
I agree, I don’t think he’s that bad as a second choice, as long as his hearts in it. Worst comes to worst and he plays a few games, he’s experienced and hopefully can hold his own defencively.


4.) 06 Aug 2018 19:23:37
There's been nothing wrong with him defensively so far, just his fitness. If is heart isn't in it, he won't get game time. Simple as.


5.) 06 Aug 2018 21:40:34
I don’t think he’s good enough as a back up RB, Trent is still young and will need to be rested now and again, that means your going to need to have to rely on Clyne for several games a season, I don’t think I have ever seen him have a good game for us, he would be the weak link and opponents will exploit that.


6.) 06 Aug 2018 22:24:14
Exactly mikey, he's not good enough for this level of football, or even close imo. Defensively he is terrible, Trent is a young lad and is already 10 x the player Clyne is. I'd put Fabinho, Milner or Gomex before Clyne.


7.) 06 Aug 2018 22:34:03
To say Clyne has never had a good game for us is rubbish. Yes there are better attacking full backs out there but I believe he has a big part to play this season. Trent has made the position his own but there
Aren’t many right backs out there better as a back up.

If u think there are then name them. The likes of Walker and Valencia are hugely overrated. Azpilaqeta (excuse spelling) is prob the best about but no chance of getting him.

At the end of the day we need squad players as well as starters to be successful, they can’t all be world beaters.


8.) 06 Aug 2018 23:21:37
You can easily name several better right backs from Liverpool alone.


9.) 07 Aug 2018 06:04:49
I like Clyne. Between him and Trent we have RB sorted.


10.) 07 Aug 2018 06:45:53
Go ahead then Mikey. and remember, Fabinio wAs bought as a midfielder, Milner has proven himself in midfield and only played left back for one season due to necessity.

TAA and Gomez who will spend more time at centre back this year.

Think.


11.) 07 Aug 2018 07:34:27
if Clyne plays a bad game, we’ll just have to score more goals 🤔.


12.) 07 Aug 2018 08:11:14
How long has Clyne been here now? And Klopp too?
If Klopp thought Clyne wasn't up to the job, he'd be gone.
Ask Balotelli.


13.) 07 Aug 2018 08:21:45
Problem is FTR who would want Clyne? that's why we're stuck with him mate lol.


14.) 07 Aug 2018 10:09:12
Try saying we're stuck with him if Trent Arnold gets injured or suspended.


15.) 07 Aug 2018 11:39:13
I will do mate because he still won't get a game, Milner or Gomez will be before him maybe even Fabinho.


16.) 07 Aug 2018 12:56:44
Don't see that happening at all. Clyne still has a role to play this season, he'll play more at right back than any other player except TTA. Providing he's not injured of course.


17.) 08 Aug 2018 04:13:00
Clyne and Camacho have played at RB. I don't think the other players will play there. Gomez hasn't been used much there lately so I think Klopp has moved him to his favoured CB position.

TAA and Clyne as second choice. That's the RB position for this season in my view according to preseason. Klopp has been playing everyone where he'll use them during the season I believe.


 

 

27 Jun 2018 17:35:52
Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 27 Jun 2018 18:08:29
Welcome to Liverpool lad. Anybody actually seen him play, if so any good?


2.) 27 Jun 2018 18:14:39
He's 17.


3.) 27 Jun 2018 20:57:57
Only seen highlights of one game against Liverpools kids, Salah. He scored but it was as much bad goal keeping as a great finish. Don't remember anything else as it was over a year ago.


4.) 27 Jun 2018 21:14:50
Did he play for man city.


5.) 27 Jun 2018 21:23:13
Remember the last left footed striker from Liverpool a one Robbie Fowler a. k. a god, step forward bobby Duncan maybe an omen, I hope so!


6.) 27 Jun 2018 21:28:33
Folks calm down he's 17.


7.) 27 Jun 2018 22:23:47
Hahahaha I am just playing he is a kid with a lot too prove and his whole career in front of him, you don't get called god for nothing and Fowler stepped immediately up too the plate, if the talent is there lucky us and hopefully he fulfills his potential.


8.) 28 Jun 2018 11:58:49
He’s got big boots to fill for being the next bobby in Liverpool.


9.) 28 Jun 2018 16:17:09
Only English player to score a hat trick against Brazil at any level. At U17 level I believe.


10.) 28 Jun 2018 16:32:42
Bobby played in the same school team as my lad. He’s a fantastic finisher, who can score any type of goal.

Saw him last year or so for City against Cackpool (Blackpool) and he’s motivated solely by scoring goals, which is an obvious must for a striker!

Reminds me a little of Aguero, similar stature, huge thighs and truly deadly if you give him a chance!

Going forward, I don’t know if he suits our current way of playing, but I guess it’s up to him.

Hope he forces his way through!


11.) 28 Jun 2018 18:06:05
We should have signed Ricky Bobby instead

‘If you ain’t first, you’re last! ’.


12.) 30 Jun 2018 14:06:10
“Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think”

Seems consistent. They both went for 2 first names instead of a proper surname 🙄.


 

 

28 May 2018 23:30:41
I know we have been linked very hard with Fekir but a little birdy tells me it is Malcolm we really want
not sure how this will turn out but it is malcolm more then Fekir according to the little birdy
just passing it on lads.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed0333's Note - over to Ed’s 002


1.) 28 May 2018 23:42:04
Malcolm is a talented player.


2.) 29 May 2018 03:45:08
Malcom is a winger, Fekir a CAM. It will be both if Malcom is the winger Klopp wants, not one of the two.
The UCl final was a clear indication we need another wide player in case Salah or Mane cannot play and Fekir is a CAM that will bring more creativity to our workmanlike midfield.
Fabinho, Keita and Fekir! BOOM! Bet Harry will be the happiest LFC fan alive if that happens.


3.) 29 May 2018 05:34:27
Wait so what's going to happen to Hender (backpass) en, Mil (not that boring) ner and Gini?


4.) 29 May 2018 06:12:07
Regardless if any wife player coming in, if Fekir does come it would signal to me Klopp switching to a very attacking 4231 starting formation next year, with Fekir behind Bobby. This would leave Fabinho, Hendo, Wiji, Milner, Ox, Lallana and Keita vying for the remaining midfield positions, although Ox and Lallana could be cover/ rotation for Fekir I suppose. All opinion and guess work of course, but if true I would imagine at least 2 will leave.


5.) 29 May 2018 06:55:42
I hope we haven’t resorted to signing wives now 😲.


6.) 29 May 2018 07:20:45
I'd prefer to see Malcolm in the Middle :)

{Ed025's Note - love it burkey..


7.) 29 May 2018 08:00:14
Speaking of wives. turns out, Fabinho's wife was the only ITK posting hints of their future over the weekend. There's a picture of her supporting Liverpool on Saturday night, doing the rounds ;)


8.) 29 May 2018 08:49:10
Thanks for the info Johncrow.


9.) 29 May 2018 09:18:50
you welcome Salah mate
it may turn out to be crap but thought I would share
albeit now Lemar seems to have come back into the frame as well according to Lequipe
So my little birdy looks like he may have given me duff info lol.


10.) 29 May 2018 12:50:19
Well for now we know we are looking for a coutinho replacement (Fekir, Lemar), cover wide (Dembele, Malcom, Lemar, Pulisic), Goalkeeper Cover (Navas, Butland) or First choice (Alisson) and Centerbacks cover (Tarkowski) .


 

 

 

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05 Jul 2020 18:33:15
Not a great match but so happy to see bang average Naby Keita play a lovely pass for the first goal.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 05 Jul 2020 18:37:37
Keita is brilliant he just needs too play more than ten games in a row without getting injured . I want him too succeed there is a real player there .


2.) 05 Jul 2020 18:38:58
If Bruno or KDB plays that ball people are creaming themselves in fairness.


3.) 05 Jul 2020 18:39:21
Has he even made 10 games in a row without being injured?


4.) 05 Jul 2020 18:39:58
Naby is fat from bang average. He’s just got a lot of unwanted baggage and struggled with injuries. Nice assist for Mané.


5.) 05 Jul 2020 18:57:37
Nabby isn't fat 6Times.


6.) 05 Jul 2020 19:08:25
It was a pin point pass. Hope he can really stay fit and build up the consistency needed to become integral to our first 11.


7.) 05 Jul 2020 19:41:26
I’d be happy for Naby to play 5 games in a row. Great pass for the goal.


8.) 05 Jul 2020 19:42:35
I agree with the all of the above, i just want to see him grab a game by the scruff of the neck, pick the ball up and start driving at the opposition with his superior dribbling skills, great pass for the Mane goal though.


9.) 05 Jul 2020 20:25:52
That goal was made possible by Firmino. If he hadn't moved 4-5 feet forward towards the goal, and dragged the defender with him, Keita would not be open to receive the pass and pass it on to Mane.


10.) 05 Jul 2020 22:30:46
Does anyone with eyes to see really doubt the value of Firmino? Or Hendo and Wini come to that. The impact they made coming on was immense and really picked the game up and made it ours. Normal service resumed 😉.


11.) 05 Jul 2020 23:22:27
Great pass from Naby but does anyone else feel he’s trying to hard? Particularly when he starts? That pass was more instinct, see it, play it. When he’s got too much time to think he picks the wrong option very often but when it’s instinctive he looks much more fluid.
As a player I’ve been there, you want to succeed so much that it negatively affects your game and you overthink everything. Then you start to doubt yourself so you try harder but that just makes it worse! It’s a problem that can only be overcome by the manager picking you and playing your way out of it over time.
Let’s hope he can.


 

 

14 Jun 2020 11:56:45
Hi Ed 001 hope all is well with you and the family
Just a quick one could you see us making a
Major signing in the transfer window after the one coming up
So January I think I mean lol
Or would you think the finances would not of recovered by then?

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - no teams tend to do big business in January as a rule. I really can't see us needing to, I think it is more likely to be a tightening of the belts and look to bring through youngsters. We are in a good position, only really needing a left back to push Robbo as things stand.}


1.) 14 Jun 2020 12:21:19
Ed agree with you on the Jan as it’s difficult to sign players you want mid season. Amazing to think though that even with that we have signed VVD (most expensive signing), Carroll ( record signing at the time), Suarez (horrible character amazing player) and Coutinho (our record sale) all in January.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair they were exceptional circumstances. VVD was because of his fall out with Saints after he was tapped up. Carroll was because of Torres' desperation to leave. Suarez the same thing. Coutinho was a cheap deal for a player no one wanted as he was not that good. I am still amazed we got so much for such a massively overrated player.}


2.) 14 Jun 2020 12:39:14
are we actively looking for a LB to push robertson? or are we happy to let the youngsters compete for the role.

{Ed002's Note - Not at this time. There is plenty of cover and it won't be a priority.}


3.) 14 Jun 2020 12:47:21
Ed001 totally agree mate. It does show how stats can be manipulated in an argument though. Those players could be shown along with Sturridge in an argument saying we do a lot of big business in Jan.

{Ed001's Note - it is so difficult to draw any real conclusions anyway as the windows have only been in existence for a few years. But you are right, without putting any context with stats they can be used to show anything.}


4.) 14 Jun 2020 12:55:31
Ed001,When almost everyone was raving about coutinho and voiced negative criticism towards the club for not holding onto him, you were probably the only one who believed he was so overrated and the club would be much better without him. your judgment on players is really good and most of it comes true regarding the players. the club is rumored to be looking at the possibility of loaning him back. do you believe it is true? Can he help the team in any way if brought on loan deal?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any truth in it nor do I see any need for him. He just isn't going to improve our team in any way. Quite the opposite, imo. We needed to move on from him to reach where we are, bringing him back would be a huge error. If he was young it would be a different matter, then he could be developed in the right way.}


5.) 14 Jun 2020 15:27:47
The counter argument to that point sms is the system in place after Coutinho left was over-reliant on one man’s outstanding form, Salah’s.
It all came tumbling down in the CL final when the lack of anyone to keep hold of the ball resulted in a boot it and hope approach, and Liverpool’s worst CL final performance ever.
The team was shaping up to be awesome when Coutinho left, as it was after to their credit. But at that time it was a system built on sand imo.


6.) 14 Jun 2020 21:39:13
The Juicer, I disagree with that comment as it makes a mockery of the great job Klopp did to get us firing and scoring for fun and winning games even after so called 'best player" was sold to Barca.

When Salah signed many on here and in English footnall had NO idea of the impact he would have on our team. Many said he was a flop at Chelsea and so, he would automatically flop at Anfield. Shoot, even Klopp did not want him and had to be convinced to sign him for this particular reason.
Our system was NOT built around Salah nor was it over-reliant on him at the start. It may have later become that way cos well, Klopp played Salah much closer to goal (something Salah admitted to himself) than at anytime during his career BUT that was not the plan going in.

Also, A tonne of teams for some reason, did not know how to handle him cos they were busy trying to stop more known quantities like Mane and Bobbie. What happened? Salah goes off on teams even tho Mane and Bobbie finished with 20 and 27 goals respectively. That season was the season our "Front Three" was born and NOT before.

Now regarding the CL final vs Madrid, it was clear Salah would get special attention cos he was top scorer with 44 goals BUT nobody could have known he would be targeted IMO, and taken out of the game. What did us in was that we had NO depth on the bench to come in and help salvage the situation after Salah was taken off as we only had 3 fit midfielders, 2 fit CB's and bar Ings (not fit enuff to play a CL final), NO strikers.


7.) 14 Jun 2020 22:26:33
Does no one remember the horror show that was Karius in CL final? Surely that had something to do with it? I thought we were doing ok until he chucked one in.
As for whether Pipco should come back? He was most effective on the left of the front 3 and cutting in onto his right peg. Once we signed Salah and switched Mane to the left there’s no room for Pipco. We tried him deeper but his lack of a tackle, positional indiscipline and his constant slowing down of the game made us a worse team overall.
I see him as a very expensive Lallana replacement. A place we’d be much better giving Curtis Jones IMO.


8.) 14 Jun 2020 23:42:27
The 100 mph football that developed after Coutinho’s departure was never going to win us anything.
Coutinho’s role has, imo, been taken up by Bobby whose range of territory that he plays in is far greater now.
But the play has been slowed down generally and is much more controlled and possession based as it was when Coutinho was here.
There’s a world of difference between the Liverpool of the 2018 CL Final and the current team.


9.) 15 Jun 2020 09:21:57
I always loved Couts. But if he were to come back, I just do not see where he would fit in. For our system to work, we need 3 hard working midfielders, to be the engine. Coutinho is not that. So he'd have to replace one of our wide players, who he is not as good as.

Loved him while he was here, but it's surely flogging a dead horse now. Why would he come on loan to be on the bench all of the time? And why would we pay a portion of his wages (Barca have already said that they will pay some of it) for him to sit there?


 

 

06 Jun 2020 09:25:03
Can't be true seems that Lampard met with Werner on numerous occasions before Chelsea actually agreed a deal with red bull
Surely can't be true as according to a few on here only Liverpool and klopp tap up players
Lol
Hope the lad does well at Chelsea as he seems a nice boy.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea had permission to speak with the player. Why embarrass Liverpool further - the Premier League club most recently banned for tapping up?


1.) 06 Jun 2020 11:43:47
Some people seem to have very selective memories. Chelsea are the team most recently banned for breaking the rules (150 times were stated) and ManCity are currently banned pending appeal.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea were not banned for tapping up a player - Liverpool were. Perhaps you should start your sentence, "Speaking from a position of complete ignorance ..."}


2.) 06 Jun 2020 15:22:44
Last player Chelsea tapped up was Gael kukuta
And they got a ban for it
I hope Liverpool just focus on the good players in our squad and not about players going elsewhere
Also I don’t ever see us signing the Seville player Carlos it makes little to no sense at all.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not have to serve a ban as Kakuta did not have a contract with Lens that he could break.}


3.) 06 Jun 2020 17:28:55
JJ, please stop cos you are embarrassing yourself royally here. We have a history of tapping up players and this has been the case for years and for some dumb reason, we are still doing it. Stop defending the club from a position of weakness and ignorance cos you are making a mockery of yourself, really.


4.) 06 Jun 2020 21:53:00
Your post is very silly red Meister you need to stop following others and read my posts
I’m said nothing to defend Liverpool I said others do it as well
So explain how I’m making a mockery of myself
Your comments would make more sense if you actually read what people post before getting on your high horse and trying to insult them.


5.) 07 Jun 2020 12:25:17
JJ, did youread your own posts yourself. Maybe you should before embarrassing yourself and getting schooled by Ed02 who said it best, "Speaking from a position of complete ignorance . ".

Now did you know that Chelsea had permission to talk to Chelsea before E02 said so? Did you know that Chelsea were not banned for tapping up players?

Here's a lesson for you: If "whataboutism" (What about Chelsea and this or that) is all you have then you are deflecting and have no argument which is why Ed02 made a mockery of you. You made a mockery of yourself by making baseless statement that got debunked in real time by those "in the know". If you know more that Ed02 does then, prove his information wrong. If not, then carry on embarrassing yourself on the internet. Peace!


 

 

21 May 2020 15:07:36
Looks like things might be getting back to normality somewhat training wise so hopefully Not too long now to the league safely restarts
For me I think Liverpool are going to benefit form this break in many ways first the likelihood of a big name leaving has now all but ended and the guys have had time to recharge the minds and bodies and the injured have returned to full fitness
Next season could see us dominate even more then we have this season
Even if we don't make another signing I'm confident of a good season again.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 21 May 2020 15:25:26
I like the confidence Johncrow and imo we don’t need much more fit best season our squad is decent enough to challenge. I think we are still a way from restarting though mate with Plenty of issues and question marks Hanging around.


2.) 23 May 2020 23:47:58
I think the break came at a good time for us. We were looking leggy. Our squad is not old so can definitely go again.

I really really like joe gomez but injury is a worry with him. Of I were being ruthless id like to see another high class cb. And maybe a creative midfield player. But I'd also be happy enough with no signings. The squad is great. Looking forward to seeing more of minamino.


 

 

14 May 2020 07:15:18
On this day I was in a sports bar watching the fa cup final thinking surely West Ham can't do us c'mon they can't
And boy did our boys make me sweat
But what a game ay lads
Special special day
Cheers to Gerrard and Cisse for never losing hope.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 14 May 2020 14:25:48
Got very drunk that day and ended up in a manky lap dancing club and got thrown out. Well actually thrown out is a bit harsh on my good self the bouncer basically just guided me out the door. Great times😂.


 

 

 

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04 Jul 2020 07:15:13
Everyone is entitled to their opinions but to call Naby bang average for me means you don’t truly understand football at all.

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22 Jun 2020 10:02:00
Ed think it was the reply of jay dub red then the original post
It almost seems sometimes like Some fans want players to fail more then succeed which baffles me.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - I know mate, I was talking about the twitter post being a joke. I agree though, people are desperate for something to moan about.}


 

 

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29 May 2020 07:29:07
Ed 002 I remember you saying we were much better financially so this now comes as a shock to me.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - It is a problem of Living on the edga. Liverpool dealt with their debt well, but manage finances based on income and when it arrives to pay money that is due. There is a loan facility they can call on if necessary as the club. Social cleansing of the Anfield area with Liverpool buying property and leaving it empty for years and persuading the Council to use Compulsory Purchase Orders to purchase the rest. After lying to the Council about their consulation with the locals about the plans for Anfield there was a delay and the two phased approach decided. In February 2020 Liverpool took out a mortgage on all assets (the Freehold and leasehold of Anfield and about 90 properties (some of which were obtained CPO) with the charge held by Natwest. The club have made a number of serious decisions that have led to financial issues - such as putting the full €160M due for Coutinho in the accounts and then spending it. Liverpool now need to make a correction to reflect the actual amount that will be paid by Barcelona. Reliance has been placed on end of season income to pay for transfer fees that have been spread over long periods.}


 

 

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30 Apr 2020 08:40:53
Surely Fabinho must be In there and I love the comment five a side with four players quality.

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26 Apr 2020 09:55:54
I thought Karen Brady had sorry Ed my mistake.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - No, she used the term "void" at the start it was not what she was referring to. Nobody has suggested to the PL that the season should made void - although some Liverpool supporters here seem to be suggesting it, the option is not on the table and has not been discussed - and it is certainly not the position that West Ham have put forward.}


 

 

 

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09 Jul 2020 17:01:09
DIVOCK is much better imo.

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06 Jul 2020 09:11:58
Too soon to judge but on the game against Everton and yesterday looks like he is direct wants to score and knows when to pass
The rest will come in time but I’m happy next season he looks like getting his chance to be a squad regular.

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05 Jul 2020 11:52:15
This kid is going to be a star no doubts about it and seems so down to earth it is untrue.

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04 Jul 2020 22:13:06
It is quite obvious 6 times has just reeled off the usual comments about players he doesn’t rate
He had not looked at any stats or actually watched the player this season I’m sure.

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04 Jul 2020 15:14:58
The fella have been around for years mate
Top player it has to be said.

Johncrow Junior