Liverpool Rumours Member Posts

 

Akira1892's Profile

Current Avatar:
No Avatar image uploaded
Correct Score Competition:

Not entered
Correct Score Competition
Flat Out Racing:

Not played Flat Out Racing


No Profile Picture uploaded

Team:


Where from:


Favourite player:


Best team moment:


Interests:


Timezone:




Akira1892's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To Akira1892's Posts

 

 

To Akira1892's last 5 rumours posts

 

To Akira1892's last 5 banter posts

 

To Akira1892's last 5 rumour replies

 

To Akira1892's last 5 banter replies

 

Akira1892's rumours posts with other poster's replies to Akira1892's rumours posts

 

04 Jan 2023 07:47:17
Oh god. don't know why but tielemans is being shouted at me by source.
I pray that this one doesn't happen. I thought he was going to arsenal?
Eds got anything on this?

Akira1892

{Ed002's Note - Youri Tielemans (CM) right now he will not sign a new contract so will be available this month at a reduced fee. His agent confirmed that there was interest from Real Madrid who are looking for a Luka Modric replacement, but they ha=ve turned their attention elsewhere. Interest from Spurs may remain, but they would likely not be a January option. Arsenal remain very keen and could make a January offer an he has been approached by a third party representing Newcastle, who also cannot be discounted. Interest of Manchester United has probably gone as both are looking at other midfield options but they will be back if they cannot get their first choice players. I suspect that Arsenal and Newcastle will continue to work on a transfer whilst Leicester continue to try and persuade him to sign a new contract. Wildcard might be a pre-contract agreement with Juventus. He is aware that other clubs, including Liverpool, have scouted the player but not declared an interest. Klopp has said that Liverpool are not looking for a midfielder; oh but they are; no they are not...................}


1.) 04 Jan 2023 10:48:50
Maybe, just maybe, we can't all know more about this player than all the scouting teams at all those major clubs that Ed002 has just listed who are or have been interested?


2.) 04 Jan 2023 11:51:25
Johnny, not every player fits with every system. As Ed002 said, we have scouted him but decided not to pursue any further. I'm happy with that. Scouting him doesn't mean we want him, just means we have checked him out. Given his contract was winding down and we would therefore get him below market value, scouting him was sensible.

I'm sure the scouts saw the same as us - doesn't have the high energy required for a Klopp midfield - so decided not to pursue. All good.


3.) 04 Jan 2023 12:09:27
Tielemans is better than what we have, would be a good bargain which we know the out going owners like, would improve us straight away, makes sense to me.


4.) 04 Jan 2023 12:12:13
Thanks ed. I have been told there is a good chance we will consider him for January.
Could be the latest panic pockets signing at Liverpool.


5.) 04 Jan 2023 12:43:23
Tielemans doesn't improve our midfield engine.
We need runners and tacklers.
Why sign a player we don't need?

What we have got is not fit for purpose.
Tielemans is not fit for our purpose.
Go and get what we need instead.

If the club staff have decided we don't need runners and tacklers in our midfield then I they better get their CVs prepared as it's going to end in tears.


6.) 04 Jan 2023 12:45:17
Being better than we have isn’t a very high threshold.


It is plain that we lack pace, mobility and strength in midfield, Tielemans answers none of those issues and has FSG desperation move written all over it.


7.) 04 Jan 2023 12:47:49
This stinks of smoke and mirrors aimed at deflecting what's really going on.
Unless this is a case of stock piling in order to later sell, whilst padding the squad, this is a non mover.


8.) 04 Jan 2023 12:58:54
I agree Lancaster. He’s not the dynamic box to box midfielder everyone wants in Jan but he would be more positive than Harvey Elliot has been the last few weeks.

I don’t want to getting into slagging off Harvey cause he’s only a kid with loads of potential btw. just feel he’s not ready for a starting spot in the midfield.


9.) 04 Jan 2023 13:02:43
Doesn't really matter who we sign for midfield if the ta tics don't change. we really expect a energetic box to box player to come in and within weeks not adopt the mentality of the players we have now. I'm dubious.


10.) 04 Jan 2023 13:16:45
20 goals from centre mid over the last 2 nd a half years, i'd imagine that's probably more than all our mids together. or at least very close. Would be really cheap yet make our group of midfielders stronger. Nowhere near 1st choice but at the moment if we can be improved without breaking the bank i'd take it.


11.) 04 Jan 2023 13:46:05
Our entire 7 player centre mid roster have scored a combined 33 in the same time.


12.) 04 Jan 2023 13:08:07
Not even against it at this stage 25 and better than all our 8s bar Thiago. Considering the money we’d need to spend in the summer he wouldn’t be too bad Rather Tielemans and 2 really good lads than 3 Amrabats or McGinns worst case scenario we flog him for 15m.


13.) 04 Jan 2023 14:50:51
To be honest I’d take him at the moment given our current situation. I also think if a further two midfielder s were signed in summer he would still be a valuable squad player to have.

If a good fee can be agreed id take him.


14.) 04 Jan 2023 15:08:42
I bet he wants a big wage on a free though.


15.) 04 Jan 2023 15:50:09
So the answer to a midfield that is too slow and too weak, is to sign a midfielder who is slow, lazy and weak? Right?


16.) 04 Jan 2023 15:55:54
VVVV How is he slow and weak? Not seen much of that and always seems to be in around the ball whenever I've watched Leicester and Belgium, let's not forget we are in this position because of lack of investment from the top, something I've been going on about for years yet for some reason people have only just started to see it? Took a lot of flack for challenging the owners but glad to see people are seeing it now, how anyone can defend 1 midfield player bought in 4 an half years i don't know.


17.) 04 Jan 2023 17:23:55
Lancaster, I absolutely agree that midfield has been criminally under invested over the last 4 years, but the answer isn’t Tielemans.

He doesn’t track back, doesn’t press, hence he’s lazy and weak, I genuinely think Milner would beat him in a sprint and Milner’s legs are going. He has the occasional long range dig at goal which looks nice on the highlight reel but generally does as little as he can get away with.

{Ed025's Note - im with you on that one VVVV..


18.) 04 Jan 2023 19:59:08
Ed’s can I ask a question? Why have Liverpool been so slow to refresh the midfield?

{Ed002's Note - Klopp has been clear there is no need. I disagree, but there we go.}


19.) 04 Jan 2023 21:55:22
Ed002, I agree with you.


 

 

04 Jan 2023 07:36:31
Anybody knows if arthur is still with us?

Akira1892

1.) 04 Jan 2023 07:42:45
I'll just get me crystal ball mate.


2.) 04 Jan 2023 07:51:22
I mean, he's not died. Should be back from injury in February to hopefully help us in the last three months of the season.


3.) 04 Jan 2023 08:04:09
He is. Should be available towards end of this month I think.


4.) 04 Jan 2023 08:29:14
Ask your source.


5.) 04 Jan 2023 10:12:44
When he gets fit id start him. What’s the worst that can happen he’s rubbish and we don’t win games? Already the case i genuinely see no downside to giving him a chance.


6.) 04 Jan 2023 10:41:47
You’re better off waiting for Neptune to complete an orbit of the sun than waiting for Arthur to be a fit functioning footballer. Should be sent back to Juventus.


7.) 04 Jan 2023 12:03:08
Rochdale, businesses are compartmentalised. It is perfectly reasonable for Akira to claim he has a source in finances who gives him crumbs regarding transfers, whilst simultaneously not knowing if Arthur has emptied his locker at the training ground.

He called the Diaz transfer fee to almost an exact amount, and called the Gakpo interest nearly 6 months in advance. So whilst he might just have made 2 good guesses, for me he's got enough credit in the bank to not be mocked for asking a question. If anything that makes him seem more legit, as people trying to create an elaborate lie about their insight, rarely admit openly there is something they don't know.


8.) 04 Jan 2023 11:51:51
No, he's with the Woolwich.


9.) 04 Jan 2023 12:55:42
MK, agreed re Akira, some on here really hate to see posters adding 'Rumours' to the 'Rumour Page'. Do people actually not read the name on this page?


10.) 04 Jan 2023 13:00:00
Well said MK ?.


11.) 04 Jan 2023 14:33:34
Yep, good post MK.


12.) 04 Jan 2023 15:51:03
Agreed MK.


13.) 04 Jan 2023 16:04:06
Spot on MK.


14.) 05 Jan 2023 07:47:29
I genuinely asked cuz LFC site was saying injured till February. But i could find much on where he is being treated at- LFC or Juventus.
He might be the reason we don't buy a midfielder again so my concern is legit.
On another note i hope he gets fit quick so we don't end up signing tielemans. As i have heard we are discussing about committing a blunder and signing him January which means we will be paying for him. It makes even less sense than loaning arthur.


 

 

18 Oct 2022 04:59:01
We have again been asked to consider gapko.

Thought is we should have moved for him in summer. However he has been in good form and Liverpool have been advised to consider him.

Personally I feel opportunity was last summer and we could have got him around 50 million add on included. Now i think there will be more suitors in the picture

There is also a kid from serbia samek me that is being looked at keenly. He might happen in January.

Akira1892

1.) 18 Oct 2022 06:43:27
who is urging Liverpool to look at him? His club?


2.) 18 Oct 2022 09:05:24
Don’t know much about him, but midfield has to be the priority. The only way I think we bring in forward reinforcements is if Bobby leaves on a free, but the way he is playing currently surely he’s getting a new contract.


3.) 18 Oct 2022 09:22:26
Absolute rubbish that’s why we bought Diaz.


4.) 18 Oct 2022 09:34:53
Our advisors and chief scouts.


5.) 18 Oct 2022 09:44:15
I’m still waiting for Liverpool to sign Asensio, Lewandowski and Valverde like you said we was in one of your posts.


6.) 18 Oct 2022 10:44:53
To be fair Sid he called Diaz and the exact amount when everyone else said b*llocks so maybe a little bit of credit where it’s due mate? Nobody gets them all right, and nobody is obligated to share information with us! However that said I’d much rather a midfielder or two than another forward but Salah competition wouldn’t be too bad (think he could of used it lately) .


7.) 18 Oct 2022 10:50:21
a right-footed winger.

diaz
jota
carvalho

I think we're covered, if you know of any left-footed wingers, let me know.


8.) 18 Oct 2022 12:10:28
so our advisors and chief scouts have urged ourselves to consider gakpo. lol, nah I get ya lol.


9.) 18 Oct 2022 12:57:53
Salah- left footed winger.


10.) 18 Oct 2022 13:28:20
Our advisors and chief scouts? Aren’t they the ones who should be looking at him instead of asking others too? I’ve probably read this wrong ?.


11.) 18 Oct 2022 14:08:58
Nice one akira.
Uve been reliable in the past, so will take your word .


12.) 18 Oct 2022 14:20:48
Given we have Diaz, Jota, Darwin and Carvalho all capable of playing as left-sided, right-footed forwards, Cody Gakpo, while maybe liked by our scouts and recruitment team, doesn't make a huge amount of sense.

Unless they see the possibility of him being Bobby's successor or even doing a Gini and convert him into a box-to-box midfielder?


13.) 18 Oct 2022 16:46:19
I don’t doubt Amira’s sources I just question the logic in recruiting another winger.


14.) 18 Oct 2022 18:01:03
He’s only picking up transfer news which is on Reddit which is where the Diaz transfer saga first started long before he posted it.


15.) 18 Oct 2022 18:26:49
Akira called Diaz but his track record apart from that has been quite poor, so I won't be holding my breath over Gakpo. This isn't an attack on you tho Akira, after all, this is a rumours site, so appreciate you posting.


16.) 18 Oct 2022 18:09:41
Could he be a Bobby replacement for the summer?


17.) 19 Oct 2022 08:47:40
All you have to do is read Akira post history. He explained at the time why he knew exclusively about Diaz perhaps a week or two before it happened. I remember it very well at the time. The reason given however makes no sense as to how he would have any further “inside info. ” Everything he has posted since as mentioned has not panned out, was it indeed all a myth? A guess? A repost from reddit? I also have no problem with sharing a rumour and don't intend to attack Akira but I feel its important to let the readers of this site be aware that his posting is definitely not gospel.


18.) 19 Oct 2022 10:29:59
Er, isn’t this the rumours page? I think it’s quite common to get rumours on these types of pages. Seems that quite a few posters seem to be confusing it with the new ‘Irrefutable absolute truth about agreed between the buying and selling clubs, the player’s agent and the player’s’ page.

How about treating rumours like rumours and lightening up on the character assassinations, just because we can mentality?


19.) 19 Oct 2022 11:29:34
We could really really do with another right sided attacker. We currently have 1. More would be nice, we have loads who can play off the left.

{Ed002's Note - What is wrong with giving a chance to Kaide Gordon who I am told is doing very well?}


20.) 19 Oct 2022 13:24:09
Agreed Ed002, he seems to be going through a year of massive growing which is causing him a few issues with injury's hopefully get some time in the carabao cup and fa cup.


21.) 19 Oct 2022 16:28:25
Yea Kaide Gordon hadn’t played in 7 months due to injuries, hopefully they are just growing issues. Recently turning 18 he has the benefit of youth on his side and room for development but with only 4 first team appearances behind him is he really the one to step in to give Salah a rest now and again, particularly in important league and CL games?
A 20 something right sided attacker might be a better option.
Easier said than done.


22.) 19 Oct 2022 18:41:05
Didn’t Stevie G have a similar situation when he was in his late teens or early 20’s?


23.) 20 Oct 2022 07:54:06
Letting Bobby leave would be a big mistake. He is not finished by any stretch and needs to be signed for life.


24.) 20 Oct 2022 08:09:06
with all due respect to kaide, even our very best youth players ain't producing 15 goals and 8 assists hahaha
but yeah I like the idea of Kaide being integrated into the team, but feel he is years away from being able to step into Salah's shoes.


25.) 20 Oct 2022 21:46:33
Beef with all due respect, nothing anybody says about transfers is gospel and nobody treats anybody as such, more likely to be subject of contempt. Ask Ed002, the man provides info to the best of his knowledge and if one thing is wrong morons come out in packs. Nothing is gospel and they’d love that to be that case but it simply is not, but as I would for Ed002 I’m saying give Akira some slack, people can be wrong, or right and things can change. I haven’t called a transfer correctly in 30 years, it’s not an easy business. What I do know is you don’t ‘guess’ a club making a financial transaction and for the exact amount unless you know something. Ed002 and Akira keep it up and ST, you guys have supplied most of what we knew in advance. Love and respect.


 

 

22 Jul 2022 10:58:38
Information time- liverpool have spoken about asensio and valverde to their agents.
Madrid might reduce asking price for asensio significantly.

I don't want us to sign asensio even on the cheap but valverde could be awesome. Though don't think madrid will sell him.

Akira1892

1.) 22 Jul 2022 11:56:54
Wonder why on asensio? Not sure where he would get a starting place. Only places up for grabs seem to be CM if someone comes in and makes a go of it.

Time will tell I guess thanks anyways :)


2.) 22 Jul 2022 12:04:16
Ed002 Told us weeks ago we approached Asensios agent so not sure there is anything else on it from initial talks. It would seem not at this stage.


3.) 22 Jul 2022 12:37:38
Asensio looks a player a few years ago.


4.) 22 Jul 2022 15:13:39
Do they just have same agents? No way will Madrid want to lose Valverde.


5.) 22 Jul 2022 16:19:16
I’d imagine the club approach many agents for many reasons during the window and the season .
For me asensio is not what we need nor what he needs to be fair.


6.) 22 Jul 2022 16:40:25
Thanks for the info.


7.) 22 Jul 2022 18:29:27
Is it from the same source that told you we was going to sign Lewandowski cos if it is don’t listen to them or keep away from Twitter.


8.) 22 Jul 2022 19:42:32
Confused why we would go for Asensio personally. We have quite a few attacking options, plus I don’t rate him at all.


9.) 22 Jul 2022 20:01:03
If akira or square tomato say something, it’s worth listening to. They’re nearly ed002 level.


10.) 22 Jul 2022 20:09:41
Lewandowski and Gakpo news?


11.) 22 Jul 2022 21:24:47
Akira and ST are the ed's *-)


12.) 22 Jul 2022 22:52:21
Nah I’m not having that one. Maybe as a punt if Salah had left or not signed but I don’t see either where he fits in nor how he improves us.


13.) 23 Jul 2022 05:20:35
Gakpo was recommended to us and interest still remains.


14.) 23 Jul 2022 07:04:49
He was also recommended to Leeds and Arsenal so it’s not really ITK talk just Twitter and media repeats you’re telling us.


15.) 23 Jul 2022 08:51:14
Not happening nothing to see here.


16.) 23 Jul 2022 10:27:58
Thanks for the information Akira
Please keep it up.


17.) 23 Jul 2022 05:48:40
Does anyone in the know if Gakpo offers a type / option that we do not have?
Unless Mo's contract was designed as a compromise, whilst accepting that he will move on in a season or two, anyone else wouldn't get much game time. Mo is rarely ever injured and can play most games each season.


18.) 24 Jul 2022 15:59:14
Gakpo is recommended to us and we were interested. Now mo has signed his extension might mean this has taken a backseat. It might come back on table if one of the forward departs.


 

 

30 May 2022 05:33:46
I told you mane is talking to two clubs.
My other two pieces of info are cody gakpo (excuse spell) and lewandowski.

Akira1892

1.) 30 May 2022 06:52:46
Lewa would be an insane signing. Hope we focus all efforts on him and that Barcelona cannot afford him.


2.) 30 May 2022 07:10:01
Hope you’re wrong on both counts, Gakpo looks like the new Ryan Babel (which is absolutely not a compliment) and Lewandowski is an old codger with not many miles left on the clock.


3.) 30 May 2022 07:17:47
Since nobody know anything anyway, i believe you buddy, just keep them coming. This is a rumour page and it's transfer season.

Any news for midfielders?

Thanks for the info, appreciate it. :)


4.) 30 May 2022 07:41:10
VVVV, that "old codger" just scored 50 goals in 46 games 😂

If we'd had him up front in that CL final we'd have treble right now.


5.) 30 May 2022 08:17:04
Remember when ManU bought van person for one season to win the title? And before you point out his age his injury record was way worse that Lewa’s.

Could be a stroke of genius remembering we have the quick players around him like he has at Bayern.


6.) 30 May 2022 08:33:20
Not to mention converted few of draws into wins and did the quadraple lol.


7.) 30 May 2022 08:37:52
It’s an interest question re Lewa - a couple of years ago I would have said our model doesn’t need a true CF as Mane and Salah would make the runs into the box and score goals, but one or potentially both likely to move on, and Firmino getting on a bit, I think we may need to revisit. Diaz style of play is much more like a traditional winger and a target man would perhaps make a lot of sense, especially if we also start to use Elliot more down the right.


8.) 30 May 2022 09:04:43
Agree with all 3 of you. Our current squad is brilliant. Best we've ever had in my lifetime. But Lewandowski is the best striker in the world and would walk into (and vastly improve) any side in world football.

Benzema at 34 just helped Madrid to La Liga and Champions league. Suarez at 35 helped AM to La Liga last year. Ibra at 40 and Giroud at 35 just helped Milan to Serie A. Messi at 34 helped PSG reclaim Ligue 1. Ronaldo at 37 carried Man United all season.

At what point will people start to realise that the age at which players retire or start winding down is not 30 anymore?


9.) 30 May 2022 09:06:41
Nice but this has been doing the rounds for a week on Reddit so hardly new news, Mane is off to whoever pays the most. Breaking!


10.) 30 May 2022 09:10:49
Not exactly been all over the internet for the last few weeks.


11.) 30 May 2022 09:08:47
Yeah I don’t prescribe to the age thing at all. He is still producing. I wouldn’t expect the same numbers here but I’d expect he would fit in seamlessly and that our attack would start to look more in sync around the box imo. We’ve always lacked that consistent cutting edge around the box and a target like Lewa could be a great signing.


12.) 30 May 2022 10:18:12
I wouldn't care if Lewandowski only played 1 season and there was 'no resale value'. The man is proven talent (50/ 46 last season) and more importantly, has played under and loves Klopp.

{Ed0666's Note - would he post outrageous figures in the premiership tho?


13.) 30 May 2022 10:22:09
£50m for a 34 year old is a hard pass. Sorry, it just is. We’re talking about a man in the last throws of his career. Scoring a truckload of goals in the Bundesliga is no guarantee that he’ll do it here either, Timo Werner, Jadon Sancho and Sebastian Haller are a testament to that. The premier league is faster and a more physically demanding league than Germany and he won’t have the time or space he had over there. If we’re going to blow £50m+ on a player at least make it one that has miles on the clock to be able to adjust and at 34 he’ll be physically declining fairly rapidly.

A reasonable comparison is with Lionel Messi, he moved to Paris at roughly a similar point in his career, scored 30 league goals the season before he moved, then scored a measly 6 goals in 26 games this season in a new league, and arguably France is a farmers league, given PSG’s dominance. That should spell a huge warning.


14.) 30 May 2022 10:35:42
Ed0666, his job would be to at least match Salah's output, so we would be asking him to reduce his output by about 15-20%. 20 Prem goals would be an almost guarantee with him.

{Ed0666's Note - there’s no way of knowing for certain mate.


15.) 30 May 2022 11:02:40
Messi had 11 goals and 14 assists in the league and Champions league. How dreadful 🤔

Also i agree the Bundesliga is a lower standard but that doesn't stop people thinking Haaland with a far inferior goal tally and serious injury concerns, will suddenly cope with the rigours and vigours of English football. Not to mention Lewandowski had 13 goals in 10 games in the Champions Leagur last season.

I don't think he'll average a goal a game in the Prem, but he won't go from 50 in 46 games to suddenly being poor.

In terms of physical decline, what physical aspect does he rely on? And where's the evidence he's declining physically? He's got better in his 30's and is never injured.


16.) 30 May 2022 11:13:57
Ed0666's, there's sensible conclusions we can make though. If Jota can get 21 goals with that type of service from Trent and Robbo, you can only imagine what Lewandowski would get. Trent would be in fecking heaven finally having that type of player to ping balls to.


17.) 30 May 2022 11:14:14
Will our press not suffer with him leading the line though?


18.) 30 May 2022 11:56:22
That is a much more reasonable concern in my opinion, aoe.

Although, teams have to actually try and play football for you to press them. Our current side will dominate possession more often than not and that is when a player like Lewandowski can make the difference. A half chance is all he needs and he could find a yard of space in a match box.


19.) 30 May 2022 12:12:26
Victor, where does £50m come from?!

I posted yesterday - sent to the discussion page - that a straight swap with Bayern would be a dream for me. See if the old master can cut it up with the young pretender in the premier league….


20.) 30 May 2022 13:18:50
VVVV, you might make it to being a 34 year old 'old codger' some day, if you're lucky.


21.) 30 May 2022 13:23:38
So VVVV would you prefer 50 million on a Keita instead? It likely won't even get a Bowen. Don't get why you're so worried bout resale value. Are you a fan or the club accountant? And comparing Lewa to sancho, werner and haller is scraping the barrel. Mane got 23 goals in 50 odd games this season. I can see even a 35 year old Lewa surpassing that tally.


22.) 30 May 2022 15:11:19
It's a touch naive to believe that an ageing Lewandowski would arrive rock at Liverpool and outscore Sadio Mane.
It's an interesting one though because he's proven quality through and through. But if we'd be paying £50 million for him at his age (which we won't be) it makes a mockery of £25-£30 million for Mane.
We definitely wouldn't be pressing from the from in the same fashion and that's a big feature of Klopp's play, so I can't see it happening.
You never know though.


23.) 30 May 2022 15:51:58
I think the club has graduated from the strict old rule of "buy to sell-on for a profit" of the early years. It may still be an intention, but with the purchase of Thiago, the extensions given to mid-career and end-career players and the players allowed to leave on a free, tells you that this is no longer the priority for the club. They may prefer younger players but the priority seems to be buying players that can make an immediate impact, plug the holes wherever they are seen, and hit the ground running. Lewandowski certainly seems plausible to me. And let's forget the 50 goals. If he can give us 25 goals, added to the goals from the rest of the attack, it's good enough for me. And he'd be a player that many of the others could learn what "winning" is all about, because he's been at it for the longest time.


24.) 30 May 2022 16:05:05
Not sure where the 50 million figure has come from? Its nowhere near what is being asked.


25.) 30 May 2022 17:29:11
Hey Akira, do you know what sort of money is being asked? You hit the nail on the head with the Diaz transfer and I'd love to see Lewa playing for us even at his age.


26.) 30 May 2022 17:57:25
Mane lewand swap it is then, surely wages will be an issue tho.


27.) 30 May 2022 18:03:04
Like the premier league is some almighty Division 😂
Robert Lewandowski would not struggle scoring goals against Leeds, Brentford and Southampton.
Your talking about a striker who has done it constantly in the UCL over the last 10 years. He’s not Lukaku haha.


28.) 30 May 2022 19:21:32
Was mentioned above that lewa would cost 50 mill+ no way would want us to pay that but if mane wants to go and being reported that Bayern are trying to get him on cheap then they can’t complain if we get lewa for a lot less than they want with him being in same situation as mane (1year left on contract) difference being lewa has publicly came out and said he wants to leave, mane hasn’t. on eds comment on how well he would do in prem, would you say any team outside the top 6 have better defences than the teams in the bundesliga? He scores goals (a lot of goals) ronaldo got 18 goals as a number 9 in a terrible team this season and he’s not a number 9. I reckon he could easily score at least as many as ronaldo (I would be surprised if it wasn’t more) . I will admit tho the concern would be that he can’t press the way klopp would want so although I think he would do well in the prem I don’t know if we are the best fit for him (or he is best fit for us) but if klopp could find a way to fit him in then he could still get 20-30 next season.

{Ed002's Note - You all seem to have created this whole strange scenario where Lewandowski and Jarry Kane are joining Mbappe and Haaland at Liverpool - and then getting in these weird discussions where it becomes clear you have no idea where transfers work.}


 

 

 

Akira1892's banter posts with other poster's replies to Akira1892's banter posts

 

03 Jan 2023 10:50:39
Damn we take 2 little steps forward and 3 giant steps backward this season.

How do these awful performances keep popping up.

Brentford really outplayed us. Beckers belief sometimes.

Akira1892

1.) 03 Jan 2023 11:42:03
Definitely think the backroom needs a refresh. We need to go back to high press, high intensity style.


2.) 03 Jan 2023 12:12:37
4 steps forward 1 step back. tell you what id b glad of 12 from every 15 pts between now and seasons end.


3.) 03 Jan 2023 12:54:44
You don't bring in a profile of Thiago, Naby, Elliott and even Arthur who very much 'was' a world class potential player at Barcelona and then ask them to play football in the manner that Gini/ Hendo did. That's foolish. All you will get are constant muscle strains as we've seen over the years.

You bring such profile of players to change your game model. And from the Leeds at home game before the World Cup, there were tangible differences in our football that were exciting to see. Trent wasn't the main focus for creativity. It was central build-up, more recycling, more risk in forward passes to which Firmino could receive, hold and turn. This by the way, is a game model within which young players can thrive. This is where I was looking to see if Klopp truly can improve our youth.

It's a bit of a presumption that Klopp is great with youth. Gotze and Rues were the early indicators that Klopp would drive young attackers/ midfielders into the ground. Klopp trains and improves adults. What we've seen at Liverpool is stress upon our youth who've not come out the other side: Woodburn, Ejaria, Bobby Dunan, Brewster and currently Jones has been through the ringer and I pray he comes out the other side unscathed. I pray the same for Kaide Gordon.

We have to return back to how we finished the half season before the world cup and how we immediately returned. The football we played against City on our return I thought was the blueprint for the rest of the season and beyond as we invite players of the profile of Bellingham. But now, when the pressure came on and we conceded early, muscle memory kicked in and reverted to type. Yeah. it's going to take a bit more time, but we need solidify ourselves in a brand new model. Possession orientated, more build-up, more risk in chance creation and the extra pass on the edge of the box.


4.) 03 Jan 2023 13:16:11
spaceman, do you really believe the Spurs and Southampton performances before the WC break and the Carabao Cup game were blueprints for the future?

I see you, Pepijn.


5.) 03 Jan 2023 13:18:57
Spaceman, great points you have made there. So in essence, we have ripped up the whole blueprint of what got us success and we are now in a rebuild, correct in your view? If it is then, that should be made known and then it would take time leaning, we may not see instant success for the next couple of years.

If that’s the case then, I can understand the new approach even tho I disagree with it. What I don’t get is why are we still playing a high line yet we no longer press, fir starters? Cheers, man.


6.) 03 Jan 2023 17:43:44
It's not rocket science.

Liverpool's success over the last 5 years was built on ferocious pressing, led by a midfield of Henderson, Wijnaldum and Fabinho.

Those three used to smother teams and allow the full backs space to bomb on. It didn't matter it left them 2 v 2 or even 2 v 3 at the back, the ball would rarely get near their half never mind their goal.

Fast forward 3 years from their peak to today and you have three main problems:

1. Henderson and Fabinho's legs are going.
2. Wijnaldum left and was replaced by the more talented but less hard working Thiago.
3. Since 2018, Klopp has been far too loyal to injury prone and inconsistent CMs like Oxlade Chamberlain, Keita, Jones and Milner in favour of strengthening in that area; his gamble, which has turned out to be a fatal mistake.

All three issues have left a previously untroubled defence exposed, and it is currently crippling them.

Simple as that really.

{Ed025's Note - sorry but i cant get over that a guy called spaceman starts his post with.." its not rocket science".. :)


7.) 03 Jan 2023 17:44:51
1 . Liverpool have a lot of money to spend, but not quite the same as City or Real Madrid. They spent fairly well in the early FSG years, but they've lost some key back room staff, and spending efficiency has gone downhill. Yesteryear's TAA and Andy Robertson are today's Arthur Melo.

2 . Liverpool failed to renew their ageing midfield, buying the aged Thiago and 4 mediocre squad players like Ox and Arthur Melo instead of one younger high roller like Tchouameni or Guimaraes to replace Gini, and one backup for injury. Short term panic buys instead of long term thinking. Getting a player, just to get a player. Again, something lacking in recruitment. Elliot still young and not quite "The Chertsey Xavi". He should be their squad player and trainee, not trying to carry the midfield. The "midfield fail" has dropped them two spots, having been overtaken by Arsenal and Newcastle.

3 . Mane and Salah got older and deserved top salaries, and FSG chose to keep Salah and dump Mane. Difficult situation. Lightning doesn't strike twice. They had a special chemistry. I would have offered Mane the same as Salah and settled them both a year earlier, after the CL win, but that is where the extra money City (and United) have really counts. They could have found the wage money, as it saves on transfers. FSG felt they couldn't pay those high wages, but why drop 40m plus wages on Nunez when you can spend 10m or less on extra wages keeping Mane? I call it a mistake by senior management. Some bean counter set a hard salary cap without thinking about what transfers cost.

4 . Diaz and Jota were good buys to help renew the front line, as they fit the style of play, unlike Darwin Nunez, who is a future project. Their injuries were a killer blow, piled onto Mane leaving too. Liverpool have had some very bad injury troubles in the last five years. Virgil Van Dyke has not been the same since The Injury. It hurts. I'd say injuries and losing Mane alone have dropped them another two spots.

5 . The Premier League keeps evolving. Top 3 became top 4, became top 6 and is now top 7, with Newcastle. The Prem is attracting coaches like Pep Guardiola, ETH, and Conte, who may not be Machiavelli, but neither is he Steve Bruce.

Also, a new breed of very competitive, entertaining teams like Brentford and the Potter-powered Brighton have come in. Time past, you could suffer a cold night in Stoke and get the points. Burnley would sit back, but you could break them down. More of the mid-table teams now have no fear, and good coaches.

Teams like Arsenal are on a resurgence, and Manchester United are no longer in comedic free-fall. The times they are a changin'.

***

The journalists don't seem to have evolved with the Premier League. They just want to push the tribal buttons. Neither the fans. All you read on the BTL boards is: "Christ we need to get three midfielders and Kylian Mbappe in the January window or we're rubbish. "

Liverpool aren't rubbish. They are just suffering from the cycles of football, and losing somebody special in recruitment and vision. Why expect them to keep being exactly as good as they were? I'd hate it if the same teams won every time. City are an outlier, but that is down to Txiki Begiristain being a genius, not the money.

The only constant is change. It's the entitlement that kills you.


 

 

27 Dec 2022 03:15:18
Ahem ahem …. And we sign Gapko. Chuffed to bits was happening since last year. Happy new year guys.

Akira1892

1.) 27 Dec 2022 05:42:11
Correction last summer window.


2.) 27 Dec 2022 09:36:16
Akira. Credit where it’s due. You have been pretty spot on with everything so far. Have you got anything in regards to the takeover and also if we are in for a midfielder in this transfer window?


3.) 27 Dec 2022 10:10:00
The takeover will take time and it seems all the more likely that we will have middle eastern ownership (there is only one serious offer but at a very levelled evaluation of the club) and everything else is projection. FSG also are in two minds whether to sell or part sell. This will drag as it involves a lot of money and these transactions involve a lot of due diligence processes.

Unfortunately with information i have there is absolutely no money for a 100mil midfielder. The gakpo money is not new. We would have bought him in summer. I said the same in summer window. He was supposed to be done and I was told things were agreed to buy him and loan him back but out of nowhere we belted out an insane sum for nunez and gakpo took a backseat. Maybe the new plan was to buy him for January. But again in october i was told gakpo is dead certain as he was once again recommended to us and we were ready this time.

There is a Serbian kiddie who still might join. Also declan rice might be ready to throw his toys out so we can keep a look for that. Money still will be a big issue.


4.) 27 Dec 2022 10:23:23
Thanks for the info, Akira. As for the potential sale of the club like you, I think it will take a long time IF indeed, that is what eventually happens. Based on what I know or the little I know, FSG and Henry esp. would like potential investors as a first option so I think that will be their main focus and all avenues to that effect will be explored cos IMO, that is what they really want to do. The sale is seen as a last resort which shows they are not just going to hold on to us for the sake of it.

{Ed002's Note - It is all BS.}


5.) 27 Dec 2022 13:10:24
Probably so, ED02. I actually know very little or next to nothing about this topic cos frankly, I am not interested in any of it. Peace and Love, man.


 

 

06 Dec 2022 03:19:27
Looks like our new owners are going to be from middle east.
The club is valued a lot in the middle east but our biggest market is south east asia. But no one from those regions can stump up the cash in these times.
FSG are quite happy now unlike 3 months ago.

Akira1892

1.) 06 Dec 2022 06:09:41
Football manager time is coming. LFC will be a rich man's play thing, and we'll get to spend money like its going out of fashion. Hopefully there will be some discernment around purchases, more akin to Newcastle than City.
At least Jurgen gets a go at properly competing with the big boys, and perhaps he will stay on longer.


2.) 06 Dec 2022 07:21:21
I think middle east owners would be great for liverpool and for the middle east. The middle east people I'm sure will want to put out a better imperisson than the west portrays and also what they do need to do better hopefully by owning an institute like liverpool they will understand there responsibilities.
It would be great for the club if we had more power in the transfer market, klopp doesn't need to be backed with humongous amounts he just needs bit more, if we do need to have a big window every few years we can do it.
At same time whoever is best candidate to buy go with, be it middle east, Europe, India etc.


3.) 06 Dec 2022 09:09:17
Wow. The Saudi and Qatari regimes are alright then? I loved the Qatari response to the article in the Guardian that 6500 workers had died building the wretched stadia and, the Qatari ministry response said those that died weren’t all building the stadia - so I suppose that’s alright.

Sorry to politicise football (again) but rationalising the acceptance of, in effect, mass murderers so we can buy some overrated primadonna just because we can afford them is just plain wrong.


4.) 06 Dec 2022 09:33:19
Agreed WDW, we should be actively avoiding these type of regimes for our ownership if we can.


5.) 06 Dec 2022 10:05:28
I would like to see who these middle east potential owners are before I would ridicule them.
Everybody entitled to there opinion but I find it v hard to stomach all this ridicule of middle east coming from the west with there record.
I didn't hear anybody say we shouldn't let fsg buy us because America started an illegal war in Iraq.


6.) 06 Dec 2022 10:47:52
@Digger10, I’m not ridiculing the Saudis or Qataris, I’m ridiculing the people rationalising handing the club over to indefensible regimes.

The regimes using slave labour and costing thousands of lives and suppressing basic human rights are way, way beyond ridicule.


7.) 06 Dec 2022 10:54:50
Sorry Digger, for me it isn’t an east / west thing - there are examples of poor governments across the world. It’s about, in this case, two Governing elites exploiting people and denying them basic human rights for no other reason than they have the power to do so.


8.) 06 Dec 2022 10:59:58
I would just like to point out that just because the new owners may be from the Middle East, that does not mean that they will be affiliated with any ‘regime’.

The Saudi, Abu Dhabi and Qatar sovereign funds/ governments have already bought clubs. If it’s just a consortium of rich people from one of the Arab nations, that is not the same thing as a ‘regime’ using the club for sportswashing.

The people that live in these countries are independent agents and most have nothing to do with the government. They are not evil by virtue of being from one of these places. To conflate the two sounds a lot like Cold War Red Scare hysteria from back in the day.

The same is true for people saying ‘I just don’t want Americans’, as if all potentially interested American parties are going to behave in exactly the same way as Hicks and Gillette or the Glazers. People have got it into their heads thar they don’t like the idea of certain groups of people owning the club, but can’t articulate why.

I’m all for a healthy debate around who our new owners will be, but at least make sure you know exactly what it is you are concerned about before you articulate it. Otherwise, you just come across as a bit bigoted and reactionary.


9.) 06 Dec 2022 11:08:48
Wdw, it’s great having a holier than thou attitude but let’s face it people soon forget when it suits them. Who on here owns Nike products? They use child labour. Who on here owns an electric car? They use child labour in the mining of lithium and the working conditions are also poor.
In fact show me a billionaire who hasn’t exploited someone.


10.) 06 Dec 2022 11:10:05
Instead of pointing the finger at the Qataris, why not mention Fifa? If they wouldn't of took the brown envelope in the first place none of this would of happened. Anyhow, mass hypocrisy springs to mind concerning the exploitation of workers. It's not like that happens in the west is it :/.


11.) 06 Dec 2022 11:51:41
Who owns any sweat shop goods or cheap electronics? If so, you are supporting exploitation. let's keep it real here, we are all complicit, unless you only shop at Oxfam, grow your own veg and never judged or hurt anyone else.


12.) 06 Dec 2022 12:22:06
Why try and avoid them? Buying LFC would bring them into the spotlight like no other, the whole world knows LFC and we can put pressure on them to change, plus they we can actually start to compete for players, i'm hoping for the richest owners possible.


13.) 06 Dec 2022 12:33:15
The horse bolted in the early 90s. Top tier football is big business now and big business lives by different rules to you and me!


14.) 06 Dec 2022 13:43:24
Having a moral perspective doesn't mean that you are "holier than thou". I don't blame Qatar. They run their country in accord with Islamic principles, as they see them, and everyone should be well aware of that whether they think it's right or wrong. No one with an ounce of sense should be surprised when Qatar "do what it says on the tin". I blame the corrupt regime at FIFA who succumbed to the blandishments of Qatar and awarded one of the biggest international sporting tournaments to them.


15.) 06 Dec 2022 15:37:13
I hope so. For some reason though I can see this dragging on for 18 months and ending up with some American “investors” that do about as much as the New Nike deal, and the lebron marketing ???‍♂️.


16.) 06 Dec 2022 16:56:55
How about the regime in England that saw the highest deaths in Europe due to a cold that they couldn’t handle as well as almost every other government/ state? Every government every country every religion every race has its problems and yes you can point them all out without it being rascist or xenophobic but you have to acknowledge and accept that your own government, race, religion has its problems and talk about those too.


17.) 06 Dec 2022 19:13:24
Some really good points made above - and I completely understand that the overwhelming majority of Saudis and Qataris are not associated with the people ruling the countries.

I also accept that I’m hypocritical - although mostly unknowingly - as I suspect most of us are, as you can’t stop to check the entire back story of where they came from, who made them and under what conditions every time you buy a pair of undies from M and S.

Also apologies if I come across as ‘holier than thou’, that was certainly not the intention - I just think the pathe we are potentially going down is against the ideals of the club that I have supported for over half a century. It’s a bit like the old cliche (ironically from the days when we ‘ruled the world’ and had an empire, upon which ‘the sun never set’j) … It’s not about winning or losing, it’s about how you play the game.


18.) 06 Dec 2022 19:48:20
Respect to you wdw. We’re all ignorant there’s no doubt about it.


19.) 06 Dec 2022 22:45:14
I find it absolutely hilarious people going on about human rights abuses, and lack of in Qatar and other Middle Eastern countries, and that's fair enough. But will the same self righteous people be calling for the next world Cup in America to be boycotted. A country who could kidknapp/ arrest people who they saw as a danger, and hold for years without charge or a trail in guantamano Bay, there's still 35 in there to this day, imagine if that was a middle east country what the reaction would be . I don't want be to state owned by any state, but individual private company's citizens etc have every right to bid, and then be scrutinised as to whether they're suitable .


20.) 07 Dec 2022 00:00:10
We live in a country that has brought it's fair share of misery to this world, very recently too. Muslims live differently to us we have to accept that our laws aren't the same as every other country. in terms of workers dieing are you surprised they don't even wear steel toecaps sandles all the way.


21.) 07 Dec 2022 01:56:58
I understand what you are saying Chris - different cultures have different, for want of a more meaningful word, moral codes. As has been rightly pointed out, Britain has a fair amount to be ashamed of and on the other side of the coin there are lots of ‘Johnny foreigner’ types who are decent human beings.

That said, if we were taken over by anybody who was complicit in the death of thousands of people who were labourers on a rebuild of, say, Anfield (be they English, American, German, Indian, Qatari or whatever) is would you still support the club?


22.) 07 Dec 2022 06:15:06
C'mon, you can't compare owning a pair of Nikes or an electric vehicle with the beheading of actual people, the "ownership" of women and the imprisonment of homosexuals. Yes, be mindful of the impacts of your purchases etc, and make the best decision you can afford to make, but don't try to say we should accept this because nobody is perfect. It's a weak and shallow argument.


23.) 07 Dec 2022 07:05:02
Wdw. Of course we wouldn't stand for it if people where killed working on anfield. Unfortunately I think it's a media hate campaign against the middle east, my opinion is look at your own countries and take responsibility for what has been done in the past and in some cases recent past. Middle east definitely has there issues but anybody I know that worked out there (a lot in dubai+qatar) have nothing but praise for.


24.) 07 Dec 2022 07:05:31
For the people and the area.


25.) 07 Dec 2022 12:41:48
It's clearly the faith that middle eastern countries follow that's the problem, it's not what people like to hear but it's the flat truth, can't change a religion like Christianity has had too, only Europeans can be forced into acceptance, messed up world we live in.


26.) 07 Dec 2022 13:05:57
Cmon Kemlyncat, i've not read any Islamic texts but i find it hard to believe that the Quran says its acceptable for 6000 workers to die building stadiums for a rigged sporting event. Of course we should blame Qatar. That sort of atrocity has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a political regime that doesn't value human lives.


27.) 07 Dec 2022 18:19:32
'Only Europeans can be forced into acceptance', Jesus wept. You're treading into white supremacy and eugenics with comments like that.

Islam is literally just an extension and further development of Christianity and Judaism, in the same way the former was for the latter. They are known as the Abrahamic religions and all worship the same god, just in different ways.

The conservative laws that are imposed in the Arab nations aren't much different from the laws that were in place here a mere few centuries ago, all done in the name of Christianity. The only difference is the head start we have had through phases of 'enlightenment' and greater economic development, usually achieved through exploiting the very nations we now criticise for being backwards.

What's more, these countries are not but a hundred years old and were born out of the aftermath of the Empire and the First World War. Before Lawrence of Arabia showed up, they were just vast swathes of desert divided into nomadic tribes, ruled by the Sheikhs. Is it any wonder they aren't quite ready to make the same changes that western nations took hundreds of years to implement?

None of this is to say I find any of this acceptable, they should be held to account and I have been more vocal than a lot of people about that. However, it is important to understand the history and context surrounding these issues, before being sucked into reactionary far right belief systems that can be disproven with a simple google search.


28.) 07 Dec 2022 20:47:08
I have no problem with any religion and don’t care where any future owners come from as long as they have good intentions. What is killing everything religions and ethical values is the work community and why can’t anybody keep anything private anymore it’s almost like everyone has to to shout to the rooftops and be obeyed!

Politics should also have been kept out of football it’s now almost a flavour of the month football gesture.

How about everyone is just nice to each other and treat everyone how they would want to be treated.

Rant over lol.


29.) 08 Dec 2022 08:37:27
I think we need to be very careful of “what-about-ism”.

We can’t avoid highlighting issues or striving for change on the basis that we buy Nike trainers etc.

I also agree with Anonymous Woolbacks point regarding understanding differences in ownership by Middle East regimes vs businessmen/ consortiums of Middle Eastern people.

In reality it already feels that whoever ends up purchasing the club will upset some people in the fan base unfortunately. I think we need to remain united and not divided as fans as much as we can.


30.) 08 Dec 2022 09:12:17
As i have posted before if your not happy with people from middle east buying LFC then everton are building a new ground which will need supporters off you toddle leave the reds who want the best for our club.


31.) 08 Dec 2022 09:48:23
I don’t see it as anything to do with the religion, there are many Muslims who think that it’s a disgrace. It’s more to do with the callous way governments in general look at us people. Just numbers on a spreadsheet. For what it’s worth our government is not much better when it comes to it, we happily sell cluster bombs to Saudi to drop on women and children, we had a health minister who was happy to discharge C.V. patients into care homes knowing the risk was death to vulnerable people, there was the London borough who knowingly installed unsafe cladding on social housing to appease its posh neighbours, then were entirely callous about the loss of life when it went up in flames. I could go on. It’s a reflection of the world we live in and as Darwin so succinctly puts it, government that’s doesn’t value human life.


32.) 08 Dec 2022 12:21:41
Not going near white supremacy at all, you may as well have pulled the race card out, Sharia is absolutely barbaric, i've grown up with multi faith fiends, school etc, the ideas of children knowing their place and women do as their told have never changed, unless you arrive in the modern world, how many women reverends are there now? Gay marriage etc all been accepted into Christianity, try doing it in the middle east and those countries, oh no wait, you cant, you get stoned to death, throwing sentences about trying to imply white supremacy BS is why people have kept quiet all this time and certain things have been gotten away with, a high horse is as damaging as a truthful mouthful, it's why i care not where the owners come from, as long as they have the money to provide the team i'm happy, the richer the better.


 

 

07 Nov 2022 14:13:56
This was a long time coming. Liverpool books are a thing of art that the best goldman and stanley can't draw. SC and EY will have a blood bath.
Wrote a post but it didn't go through. Grab your belts fellas its going to get very very tough for us.
On a bright side we will finally beat madrid in CL.

Akira1892

1.) 07 Nov 2022 14:56:15
SC and EY. You typing in brail.


2.) 07 Nov 2022 14:33:32
Akira what do you mean by the bloodbath with EY?

Not sure what you mean by Goldman and Stanley not being able to draw the books either.

If Ornstein’s article is correct the Vendor Due Diligence is already complete and they are showing it to potential bidders. This requires a careful look at the accounts, assessment of tax risks, forensics, law and much much more.


3.) 07 Nov 2022 15:08:37
What is that post about, looks like another new book but I don't understand much after that, any help in explaining would be gratefully appreciated.


4.) 07 Nov 2022 14:33:32
Akira what do you mean by the bloodbath with EY?

Not sure what you mean by Goldman and Stanley not being able to draw the books either.

If Ornstein’s article is correct the Vendor Due Diligence is already complete and they are showing it to potential bidders. This requires a careful look at the accounts, assessment of tax risks, forensics, law and much much more.


5.) 07 Nov 2022 15:45:33
Good post. Infact this isn’t even a post. It’s a Prophecy!
Deciphered long lost Text from a time forgotten by Akira. I applaud you sir. Thank you for finally giving us the answer all us Liverpool fans have needed for an eternity.
Thank you for telling us, what was written in Brendan Rodgers envelope.


6.) 07 Nov 2022 16:01:23
My guess, he is referring to Goldman Sachs and Stanley Morgan and then Ernst and Young, who I believe are LFC's auditors, though that's about it from me! Not sure why it will be particularly tough either?


7.) 07 Nov 2022 15:33:08
Ignore my post above, went onto Rumours Page and Ed002 has so. e great explanations there, thanks Ed2.


8.) 07 Nov 2022 16:22:01
i have a headache reading that.


9.) 07 Nov 2022 15:33:08
Ignore my post above, went onto Rumours Page and Ed002 has so. e great explanations there, thanks Ed2.


10.) 07 Nov 2022 16:19:34
Why would it be tough for us?


11.) 07 Nov 2022 16:27:03
I can try explain where necessary as I may or may not work for a rather large financial institution definitely not mentioned on the list above.

I assume by bloodbath he means EY will take the p. with fees, although doesn’t make much sense because EY, by notion of risk of a safeguarding and breaching confidentiality and loads of ethics issues, won't be involved at all in this transaction. As they are Liverpools auditors they’d have to steer well away from this as a whole.

Process of sale will be somewhat as follows: FSG makes intentions clear in the market and will allow approaches from investors/ potential buyers to understand interest.

FSG would then engage financial institutions (such as Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs) to prepare a VDD, effectively a deck which outlays all financial red flags (risks) the business operations, performance, tax risks and much much more.

This information would then be used, in conjunction with the financial institutions engaged, to present to bidders and for them to decide on a purchase and whether they would indeed like to commit.

Then loads of law stuff and agreements after, which I have no idea about.

The longest part of this is the preparation of a VDD which can take anywhere from a month (highly unlikely) to a year (more likely in this case) . This has already been completed however and so the final parts, bidder calls and presentations will be underway to find an appropriate buyer.

No idea on timeframes so don’t ask lol, they can vary depending on the amount of interested parties and how complicated the legal aspect is.

I suspect that if the deal has been made public by the press release that it is not too far away from having an appropriate buyer. Deals like this are highly highly confidential and are not usually in the media until they are somewhat close to completion or in the latter stages of bidder calls etc.

The finance world is very tightly under wraps, mainly to prevent insider trading etc.

Any questions feel free to ask :)


12.) 07 Nov 2022 18:46:50
Just thinking the exact same thing even though I have no knowledge of using or selling. But maybe a deal is being thrashed out already or as you say very close and hopefully it'll be a good 1.


13.) 07 Nov 2022 18:53:43
Absolute nonsense post. E&Y are not having a blood bath they are LFCs auditors and sign the accounts off as ‘true and fair’. So they aren’t suddenly going to say they are a load of crap or they could be sued. I’m sure Liverpool like all other clubs have some ‘creative accounting’ policies but they will all be on the right side of the standards (FRS102).

A nothing post from someone who doesn’t understand accounts. There won’t be any damage from this process

The only thing I’d worry about is FSG not wanting to invest further and we remain static on transfers until sold and who the new owners might be. Could be anyone from a oil rich sheik to a load of cowboy like hicks and Gillette or the Glaziers.


14.) 07 Nov 2022 19:09:59
Monkey Mad. Really good summary there (I work in M&A - was on the advisor side for 9 years but recently moved in house to an energy investor) . The only thing I would add is a pretty well scoped VDD can take less than three months. I think the only thing that’s been prepared is the IM and so part of the VdD May already have been completed. Still, it will be a long sale process and not something that I can see being completed for a number of months at the very least!

Red Sandman.


15.) 07 Nov 2022 19:33:43
Anyone know if Indian company or entity may be of interest, Tata is a HUGE company. plenty of Indian billionaires too, no one has mentioned as far as I’m aware.

Alas time will tell, as long as Hick and Gillet not around.

{Ed002's Note - Why the hell would Tata be intereted? We are going down the embarrassing route again.}


16.) 07 Nov 2022 20:23:06
Tata have made a balls of my local steelworks.
No thanks.


17.) 07 Nov 2022 22:15:32
Flash, sorry mate, didn’t remember that fiasco. at time of my post. Let’s hope whoever or what ever gets their hands on us respect the history and fan base we have.


18.) 09 Nov 2022 15:53:25
Hi Red Sandman, nice to hear about your experience. I for one definitely do not have that wealth of experience (only two years in the industry and joined as bottom of the pile) .

Interesting to hear your move in-house to an energy company, I hope the transition from advisory in a firm to an in-house team has been ok.

Interesting point about maybe only the IM being completed, I was just under the assumption that if they were taking a deck and presentation to market that it would be a full VDD.


 

 

10 Oct 2022 04:34:43
Glad that world cup will disrupt the season.
I think the team is ok but somehow we are conceding too many goals.

Akira1892

1.) 10 Oct 2022 07:12:52
Conceding cheap goals and looking weak in midfield is far from ok.


2.) 10 Oct 2022 08:48:58
Can be remediated. We are playing ok. Conceding very cheap goals is the issue. These are more individual mistakes than team mistakes.
We can't concede 3 every game.


3.) 10 Oct 2022 09:06:42
Am sorry Akira but you need to wake up mate. This is the worst start for ten years. And it’s like watching a Rogers team again. We have no legs in midfield and this is not going to change until there is investment. This is not OK!


4.) 10 Oct 2022 09:34:25
There’s no answer to the midfield problems in this squad and we’re in limp home mode until January.


5.) 10 Oct 2022 09:39:15
Akira1892, we are not playing ok, I'm sorry to say. We are literally making the same mistakes near every game and NITHING is changing to the point that Im starting to wonder what Klopp and his staff actually work on during the week. I mean, how is it possible or okay that we conceded within FIFTY seconds of the game in the same fashion we conceded vs Brighton (and have conceded first in 14 of the last 16 games) knowing we are poor defensively? We lose the ball and there is no cover from midfield? People (not you) blaming Trent or whoever need to go watch the first 2 goals again cos we can't even keep things tight and keep a defensive shape for 50 seconds? Nah, That's on Klopp.

Also, why are we taking a free kick 45 yards from their goal and sending 7 players into the box leaving us vulnerable at the back on the counter while with the game tied at one apiece with 20 seconds left in the half?

Klopp should have just told Tsimikas to play it along the line, we keep our shape seconds before half time, we go in at 1-1 and get a chance to regroup. Nope, he messes that up too. We get caught on the break with everyone all at sea and we concede. Sorry, we are NOT playing okay and this loss is on Klopp, IMO.


6.) 10 Oct 2022 09:44:34
If it's the worst start for ten years, then we've been doing alright for ten years, haven't we?
Maybe we should focus on that ?.


7.) 10 Oct 2022 09:44:59
If it's the worst start for ten years, then we've been doing alright for ten years, haven't we?
Maybe we should focus on that ?.


8.) 10 Oct 2022 10:45:22
That right side of the defence is the weakest part of the team. Even when gomez came on to play Trent, the number of time martinelli got the ball and crossed was ridiculous. Henderson should have provided more cover but he is definitely on the decline. I think it’s safe to safe that we will be very lucky to get any form of european football next season.


9.) 10 Oct 2022 11:12:27
Rigsby, that was hilarious.


10.) 10 Oct 2022 13:04:12
Overreaction much.
Suddenly klopp doesn't know anything. Midfield is weak. Defenders can't defend etc etc.
Only place we are weak atm is in the head that is mentally. Its all about concentration and intensity. Its all mental. All our mistakes are absent mindedness and individual mistakes.
A team cannot score goals that we are scoring if we are not playing well.
The players are absolutely knackered mentally and it was going to be the case when we fought on all 4 trophies last season and came so close to a quadruple.
It happens in sports. It very hard to keep that level and players are just not mentally there. Some are in world cup some are thinking of the future and some are just injured.
The injury situation also doesn’t help us. Every game we loose a player.
Let world cup be over. We will be back to much better winning ways. Not breaking a sweat.

Apart from our atrocious performance at napoli i don't recall a game where we had a bad performance.


 

 

 

Akira1892's rumour replies

 

Click To View This Thread

05 Jan 2023 07:47:29
I genuinely asked cuz LFC site was saying injured till February. But i could find much on where he is being treated at- LFC or Juventus.
He might be the reason we don't buy a midfielder again so my concern is legit.
On another note i hope he gets fit quick so we don't end up signing tielemans. As i have heard we are discussing about committing a blunder and signing him January which means we will be paying for him. It makes even less sense than loaning arthur.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

04 Jan 2023 12:12:13
Thanks ed. I have been told there is a good chance we will consider him for January.
Could be the latest panic pockets signing at Liverpool.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

28 Dec 2022 05:42:11
No idea about midfielder. Will go with the eds on this.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

27 Dec 2022 13:23:10
Hahahaaa. We still couldn't afford him?.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

18 Oct 2022 09:34:53
Our advisors and chief scouts.

Akira1892

 

 

 

Akira1892's banter replies

 

Click To View This Thread

03 Jan 2023 10:59:37
Id still say its injuries and availability problems that kill our season.
We can't seem to put together a team that can have a run of 10 games.
That kills the season for us. For ex ox starting last 3 games is just not what is required.
There is no tuning in the squad as we have to keep changing because of the injuries.
You can't just chop and change and expect consistency and klopps uncertain decision making doesn’t help either
Matip and robbo were our best players last two games and we change them in order to rest? Not best decisions in hindsight.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

27 Dec 2022 10:10:00
The takeover will take time and it seems all the more likely that we will have middle eastern ownership (there is only one serious offer but at a very levelled evaluation of the club) and everything else is projection. FSG also are in two minds whether to sell or part sell. This will drag as it involves a lot of money and these transactions involve a lot of due diligence processes.

Unfortunately with information i have there is absolutely no money for a 100mil midfielder. The gakpo money is not new. We would have bought him in summer. I said the same in summer window. He was supposed to be done and I was told things were agreed to buy him and loan him back but out of nowhere we belted out an insane sum for nunez and gakpo took a backseat. Maybe the new plan was to buy him for January. But again in october i was told gakpo is dead certain as he was once again recommended to us and we were ready this time.

There is a Serbian kiddie who still might join. Also declan rice might be ready to throw his toys out so we can keep a look for that. Money still will be a big issue.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

27 Dec 2022 05:42:11
Correction last summer window.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

14 Nov 2022 02:38:13
Its does not have to do anything with keita. Despite everything ronaldo scored 24 goals last seasons and carried united. It was a bad decision and everybody knew it inside and outside.
Keita on the other side was touted to be the next big thing and generational talent and has been anything but. the biggest fail Liverpool has ever seen. Perhaps the biggest premier league failure ever at 60 million odd and 130k a week! Puts things into perpective that fsg has put nearly 180 million into the midfield since they have been here and we haven't got it right either.

Akira1892

 

 

Click To View This Thread

21 Oct 2022 05:22:58
Jones has to keep himself fit first. He isn't there physically yet.
He is a good player but we have the worst performing midfield in 5 years and he is not taking the opportunity to make a place for himself by not keeping fit.

I know injuries are mostly badluck but they also haunt you because of bad work ethic towards fitness. You have to physically strong and available to make yourself in consideration. Jones for two years in row has not been able to do that.
Clock is ticking and if he doesn't play much till January unfortunately it would be curtains for curtis. He will be sacrificed for a new star midfielder 100%.

Akira1892

{Ed001's Note - that is not always true when a young player is growing they usually suffer with injuries of various kinds. Gerrard suffered with back problems, for instance, which led to thigh strains etc. Talk of bad work ethic shows you are truly ignorant of Jones, who is known for his hard work in training, which is why he got his chance in the team in the first place. It is a shame people just want to slag off players without having any knowledge of what they are talking about, even making up nonsense about what causes his injuries. Anyone clueless enough to suggest a poke in the eye, which was his main injury problem last season, is down to lack of work ethic is best ignored I think.}


 

 





Change Consent