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03 Jun 2015 07:33:33
Morning Eds, we must surely be trying for Konoplyanka? Surely be wouldn't choose Stoke ahead of us?

{Ed002's Note - Macca says there is interest from Liverpool - I am not able to confirm that. I have explained where I do know of interest and that includes Stoke amongst others.}

1.) 03 Jun 2015 08:30:35
I hope we don't pass on kono on a free - we were willing to pay 12 million for him.

2.) 03 Jun 2015 08:37:34
We've got plenty of left backs already, don't need another

3.) 03 Jun 2015 10:25:42
Left back, better clean up the tea I just made a right mess here! Cheers for the laugh Max :)

4.) 03 Jun 2015 11:46:48
Buy him for profiteering if anything. The lad can play ball.

5.) 03 Jun 2015 11:48:46
Play him at right-back Brendan, you know you want to.

That'll free up Milner to play at left wing-back and then you can push Lucas up front.

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01 Sep 2023 07:18:55
Can any of the Eds explain to me why a team uses an inverted full-back?
It seemed to me like we used to push our full backs high up the pitch which allowed the front three to be closer together and interchange better. It also meant that when we lost the ball we had more bodies up top to win the ball back quickly.
Obviously if the press was beaten we could be exposed, however it feels like we are more exposed with this inverted full back situation but I'm looking to understand the benefit of the system.

{Ed001's Note - the idea is to get an extra body in midfield.}

1.) 01 Sep 2023 08:11:39
Thanks Ed1. If that’s it then the benefits of the old tactics surely outweigh the inverted full back idea. Especially now we’ve got more mobility back in centre mid again.

{Ed001's Note - I think the old tactics are better, but I am not making the decision.}

2.) 01 Sep 2023 08:16:46
If Salah were to be sold for 150 million who if available would you replace him with?

3.) 01 Sep 2023 08:35:12
For me, it's an attacking strategy to smother the opposition. I think we also use it to get more out of TAA's distribution.
I like the idea of us taking the game to whoever we play but it does leave us wide open at the back with our defence and lack of bite in midfield. I think we miss Mane's defensive work, too.

4.) 01 Sep 2023 08:58:21
Rabh, I'm guessing a case could be made for playing Szoboszlai in salah's position, of course we'd be unlikely to get the same amount of goals.

If someone offered that kind of money for a 31 year old player then I think we'd have to consider it, especially as we need at least one absolute top class CB and maybe even two in the next couple of years.

And no, I'm not saying we should sell Salah but from a pure financial angle, it does make sense because the number being quoted is ridiculous.

5.) 01 Sep 2023 08:43:01
A see Nat Phillips has signed for celtic albeit on loan till Jan if he plays Sun in the cauldron of the old firm game then good luck to him.

6.) 01 Sep 2023 09:20:02
I think we have to look at the question is Salah still in his prime?

If the answer is yes then how can we expect to challenge as a club if we’re selling arguably our best players in their prime.

The numbers mentioned for him are astronomical and far outweighs the money Liverpool would be getting so it’s a case of what Salah’s thoughts are.

We seemed to be happy and supported Hendo making the decision for finances so it would be hard to not give Salah the same blessing.

I really hope the club can negotiate with Salah though that he gives us at least one more season. But that season would come at a huge financial loss to him and there’s not always guarantees that Saudi will be in the same place next season and be back for him.

Also with agents working on commission then surely we know what his advice would be, and I bet it’s not let’s wait 12 months and see what the options are then.

7.) 01 Sep 2023 09:26:28
Rabh, for me I’d be happy with Diaz on the right and gakpo on the left for now rather than panic buying.

8.) 01 Sep 2023 09:43:11
Why are we hell bent on selling someone who would once again score 20 goals a season? this group is so weird at times.

9.) 01 Sep 2023 09:47:18
If he did go and a big if. I would like us to take a punt on Florian Wirtz of Leverkusen. We do have the attackers that would give Wirtz time to bed in.

{Ed002's Note - Wirtz won't be joining Liverpool.}

10.) 01 Sep 2023 10:05:39
Klopps presser today when asked if a bid had been made for Salah he answered

Not as far as i know but that doesn’t mean a lot to be honest.

11.) 01 Sep 2023 10:16:11
Habibi, why the hyperbole, who exactly is 'hellbent' on selling Salah. All I see in this thread is people being realistic?

12.) 01 Sep 2023 10:20:38
For me if salah goes the money needs spending elsewhere mostly centre half possibly 2 and maybe another 6 .

13.) 01 Sep 2023 10:20:50
Don’t want salah to go obvs.

14.) 01 Sep 2023 10:20:52
Something similar in a way years ago the libero I think would work better. Would mean pushing full backs higher up and gives the 3rd man in a back 3 and then gives you a CMD when attacking.

15.) 01 Sep 2023 10:29:16
Diaz is rubbish on the right.

16.) 01 Sep 2023 10:34:05
Long Term View if I may, you can look at it the way sometimes, a team plays a back 3. Sometimes, a team can play a back 3 to allow the "sweeper" to step out into midfield and be an extra body in there like the way Matip would do for us had we employed such a system hence, create the overload.

The midfield is where games are mostly won and lost so the more overloads and and outnumbering of the opponent in this area you can do, the better chance you have of controlling the game and have a chance to win. Just my take.

17.) 01 Sep 2023 10:37:41
Inverted FB thing is high risk high reward, just like the high line. But in this case I think the risk is far too high.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Faith..

18.) 01 Sep 2023 12:15:23
Indeed, Faith.

19.) 01 Sep 2023 13:10:30
Who says Salah wants to go? And negotiate what with him? He's got a contract with us, played in all our games so far and done well.
I've not seen or heard anything that makes me think he wants to leave.
If the Saudis want him that badly and he wants to go, they should have made an offer earlier in the window.

{Ed002's Note - He obviously knew what his agent was up to.}

20.) 01 Sep 2023 14:15:11
Rigsby, they prolly wanted Salah to force the move himself.

21.) 01 Sep 2023 17:18:06
Does that mean Salah wants to go or that he was just seeing what was on the table and from whom?

22.) 01 Sep 2023 17:21:23
Aside from the obvious defensive problems, teams already play with inverted wingers so if you invert the full backs too there is no out ball and you either nullify your wide attackers or have to force everything through the middle of the pitch. Most teams would be better off without it from what I can see.

30 Aug 2023 06:50:33
Just read a post saying that you can't get away with the language VVD used at grass roots level so VVD should be punished.
I've been coaching kid's footy for 12 years now and as the kids get older unfortunately they do get away with that language at grass roots level every single week.
I don't condone it by the way and the lads I coach don't use it.
If your point was an example should be set by pros I agree but it wasn't and unfortunately the language is used over and over every week by players in all professional teams.
Whilst I'm ranting about grassroots, coach and parent behaviour is important in helping the kids conduct themselves properly, whether it's with regards to not using bad language, or being taught a knee high 2 footed challenge isn't ok. Unfortunately in some cases I fear it's actually applauded and even encouraged.
Rant over!

{Ed025's Note - some very good points there mate..

1.) 30 Aug 2023 07:13:10
I don't know what vVD said but I would be happy for them to throw the book at him IF it is done for every player.

I quite like the idea of cutting out time wasting play acting asking for cards and aggression towards the refs. If it means matches are finishing 8 v 8 for a while so be it. Unfortunately I feel like with most things we will gradually see less of this being enforced up until Christmas where it won't be discussed at all and then some time in April it will get brought up again and be the centre of attention for a couple of weeks only to disappear again.

2.) 30 Aug 2023 07:07:13
The language is used by professionals because they are hyper-competitive athletes. Enough of this cotton wool nonsense about “set an example”. I want a team of aggressive winners that both try to influence the referee and complain when the latter’s performance is poor. The stakes have never been as high, and the refereeing never as bad.
Kids do not use foul language just because Virgil Van Dijk used it, 90% of the time people can’t hear it whatsoever anyway. If they use foul language, it’s due to regular reinforcement at school and at home.

{Ed025's Note - its not often we disagree Lowel but we do on this one mate, the way youngsters behave is by copying their peers and like it or not footballers are role models, not just VVD of course because there are loads of players who do the same, its seems to metat respect and sportsmanship has gone from the game..

3.) 30 Aug 2023 07:41:36
Whilst I agree that getting in the refs faces and abuse is wrong, the players and managers should be able to vent a bit, it's like they are trying to turn them into robots. It's a highly competitive sport with adrenaline running very high, players are bound to get angered at times. Hopefully the over the top stuff does calm down but I don't want it to be at a point where players and staff can't show some emotion.

4.) 30 Aug 2023 07:42:06
If referees want respect, how about they do their jobs properly in the first place. Im not condoning Virgil’s behaviour but it is frustrating enough as a spectator to see the referee make poor decisions (which then get compounded by gutless video refs who are too scared to disagree with the clown on-field) . If your match bonuses, title chances and reputation are being skewed because the officials are so abysmal it must be very hard to contain the rage towards them.
VVD will rightly get fined/ suspended for not doing his job correctly. Meanwhile, the ref will collect his wages and be on the field next Saturday.

5.) 30 Aug 2023 07:47:50
Agree completely, you can be hyper competitive and not be a horrible c*nt.
There's absolutely no need to abuse someone in their day job under any circumstances especially when you're on TV being watched by millions of kids around the world.
Learn to channel your aggression/ competitiveness on the pitch not boil over at an official.

6.) 30 Aug 2023 07:58:43
I think you’re referring to my post? Just like to add I’m a fa approved coach at under 16 level (did it at college) I’ve also done the referee courses that my lads league have offered and have refereed his games since he was 7. I can honestly say bad language is definitively a no no from parent and child. Whilst it’s encouraged not to card younger players ( they’d rather you tell the coach to take them off and give them time out unless it’s something serious or fighting)

7.) 30 Aug 2023 09:04:25
Kids first and foremost learn from their parents. Do we think if players were calmer in their response fans would suddenly stop abusing players and officials? I doubt it. This is a much wider problem in society. Yes, VVD shouldn't react like that but everyone needs to take responsibility for this, not just high profile footballers. Let's be honest most fans from other teams want him banned longer for football reasons and not because of his behaviour.

8.) 30 Aug 2023 08:15:47
Ed0025 I got to disagree mate.

Suarez has bitten other players and used racial language on the pitch
Zidane stuck the head on someone in the most watched game in world sports
Nunez and numerous other players have used their heads
Keane has admitted to ending someone’s career with what what an assault of a tackle
Adam Johnson went to prison.

This list could go on and on.

Kids who are terrors are usually because the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and they have no role model or discipline in the house and then they turn into worse teenagers and adults and the cycle starts again.

Referees have been sworn at by pro footballers for years and years and are assaulted regularly at Grass roots levels. All of this is 100% wrong.

But it’s not because Vvd did it on Sunday though unfortunately it’s society and the world we live currently live in.

{Ed025's Note - I get what you’re saying JK and as I said it’s not just VVD mate. But even though I get that it’s a society problem players misbehaving does impact youngsters as well. Like it or not they are role models and kids learn by copying..

9.) 30 Aug 2023 09:36:40
I think what Ed025 is saying (and correct me if I'm wrong Ed) is that professional footballers are certainly role models for kids and are a contributing factor in the negative actions of young players at grass roots. Of course there are many variables and as some say, the behaviour starts at home etc but just to further ed's point, you only need to look at kids hairstyles or celebrations when they score on the playground to see them mimicking their footballing heroes.

{Ed025's Note - you are spot on for me stuie..

10.) 30 Aug 2023 10:01:58
Language like that shouldn’t be used.
However, I can understand why players are wanting to swear so much at the reds these days, they are an effing joke.
Refs should get respect and dignity, but they are making it very, very hard for themselves lately it has to be said.

11.) 30 Aug 2023 10:11:23
Van Dijk behaved like a Dick.
He should have walked tout suite.

12.) 30 Aug 2023 12:00:33
OP anyone saying that clearly, never either played nor watched any type of grassroots football and sometimes, the parents can be the absolute worst.

As for VVD, he is the capt. of LFC and should not be using that type of language and if he gets done then, he brought that onto himself. Hopefully, he will learn from this and do better. We shall see if this standard is applied fairly across the board moving forward.

13.) 30 Aug 2023 16:11:03
a lot of the officiating wouldn't be good enough for grassroots level, im all for respect for officials but also think refs should show both the clubs and players enough respect to actually KNOW their jobs, and also officiating in a manner fair to BOTH teams would be nice t.

14.) 30 Aug 2023 10:25:23
The point regarding kids is that it sets an example.

If it’s acceptable at the elite tier it’s acceptable everywhere. It doesn’t matter what happens in school or at home - the point is it shouldn’t be acceptable on the pitch. Don’t like it then don’t play it.

I also completely disagree with this Lowe:

“I want a team of aggressive winners that both try to influence the referee and complain when the latter’s performance is poor. ”

Elite rugby is full of aggressive winners who are quite happy to beat the ever loving life out of one another. That doesn’t stop them respecting the officials. Football histrionics simply wouldn’t be tolerated.

Yes we have a significant problem with the standard of our referees and that has to be addressed. They may start to get more respect when they show that respect for the job in hand. However maybe they would be less bothered about protecting one another if they weren’t being abused in the first place. That’s the thing that should stand out from that Mike Dean piece - he did what he did (or what he didn’t do as the case may be) because he didn’t want his mate to cop anymore flak. That’s telling.

08 Jun 2023 12:59:32
Continuing the chat about Suarez. Expecting to get shot down here but calling Suarez a great footballer, rubbish person I think is unfair.
On the pitch he was. Sh*thouse. Biting, cheating. a great player who'd do anything to win. His angling for a move angered us all and he could have conducted himself better in this regard, but he wouldn't be the first or last to angle for a move.
I saw him a few times with his wife and child around the city centre and he was very friendly and seemed like a decent guy. So to call him a rubbish person seems a bit presumptive. Sh*thouse on the football pitch yes, off it who knows, but quite possibly not.

1.) 08 Jun 2023 13:20:33
Suarez was a cheat full stop, his diving antics was shocking, also what happened in the Ghana semi was atrocious, good player but was nowhere to be seen when we really needed him to drag us over the line to win the title, he went missing.

2.) 08 Jun 2023 14:09:20
Anybody correct me if i'm wrong on any of this, but i believe Suarez was the perpetrator in several incidents? And i'm not talking about diving, or maybe a few dirty tackles.

1. He assaulted a referee at youth level
2. He bit Ottman Bakkal
3. He flipped off the Fulham fans
4. He racially abused Patrice Evra
5. He bit Branislav Ivanovic
6. He bit Giorgio Chiellini
7. He threatened to sue Liverpool FC

I'd argue it's more than fair to assume he is a unsavory person. Just the Evra incident alone gives that assumption credibility, if you ask me.

3.) 08 Jun 2023 14:14:56
Speak as you find. But he dragged the clubs and Kennys name through the mud with his despicable antics.

4.) 08 Jun 2023 14:18:13
He ruined his career by leaving Liverpool and got fat in Barcelona. Same with Pipco and Mane I think the magic of our great club made these players what they where. Once they left the magic faded and should be a warning to others looking to play in easier leagues. The grass is not always greener. And to bring Belly up again he would have been a great at Liverpool at Madrid I just don’t see it he won’t be pushed as hard whilst sunbathing in Spain. Basically if you want to boost your career and gain an extra 10-20% join Liverpool.

5.) 08 Jun 2023 13:42:53
So by your logic if your partner hits you it’s ok as long as most the time they’re nice!

So if we just ignore the cheating, physical assault (biting another human?! ) and a little bit or racism then he’s amazing. Kind of man you’d def want to marry your daughter and be a role model for your grandkids heh. Give your moral compass and head a wobble….

6.) 08 Jun 2023 14:26:15
OP, Suarez was a true piece of work, end of story. There is nothing presumptive of that. the facts and his acts speak for themselves. Cos he and his family seem to be nice people does not remove from the fact that he cost a true LFC legend and an even better human being in King Kenny his job when Kenny believed he did not do what he did with Evra.

Kenny (till this day) has NO ill will towards him which is another piece of evidence of the good man Kenny remains. If Suarez was a tenth of the man Kenny is, he would have even been regarded as a good man who made mistakes and would have been forgiven, rather than one who ruined other people's lives just to get his way and did NOT care who got hurt in the process.

Oh and one last thing. We loved Suarez cos we were desperate for success and looked the other way with his disgusting behaviour provided we were winning. Had Klopp been in charge at the time, Suarez would have been GONE he season after, hands down. Peace and Love.

7.) 08 Jun 2023 15:00:22
1jj I don’t need to give my head a wobble. I’m merely questioning the commonly rolled out view.
On the pitch antics awful yes, but is he like that off the pitch. Who knows. I know a lot of footy players who are horrible on the pitch and turn into something different when playing to who they are in real life. Are they the same off the pitch ‘no’. Is Suarez different, who knows. That’s my point. That’s all.

8.) 08 Jun 2023 15:08:35
The way some people have a percentage of neanderthal in them, maybe suarez has a higher than usual percentage of beaver in his genes.

9.) 08 Jun 2023 15:17:31
what a terrible thread and take on Suarez from the OP. other posters shouldn't have to explain anymore past he racially abused another human being end of, he's human trash but an insanely talented footballer.

10.) 08 Jun 2023 15:22:17
Not being funny but there's gamesmanship and then there's assault, racial abuse, sueing your own club and being a serial biter. Bit of a difference, wouldn't you agree?

11.) 08 Jun 2023 15:28:18
Suarez got fat at Barcelona? Yet still won the treble, and is the only player to beat both Messi and Ronaldo in goals in a season. Let's face it. He may be a bellend but biy could he play.
In my opinion he is the best non Messi, non Ronaldo player of the past decade.

12.) 08 Jun 2023 16:17:46
Did someone really write that Suarez ruined his career by moving from Liverpool to Barcelona? Where he won 13 trophies in 6 seasons and scored 198 goals in 283 games? Joker.

13.) 08 Jun 2023 16:18:24
Oddly enough when he played for Liverpool, very few fans had a bad word to say about Suarez, concentrating more on his footballing talents and far less on the unsavoury stuff.

14.) 08 Jun 2023 15:40:53
I wish I was as "fat" as Luis Suarez" ?

But seriously though. Wonderful footballer but terrible human being.

15.) 08 Jun 2023 16:23:32
Completely agree with everything you set out MK. He has a very long list of evidence setting out how he is not a player that we should label as a "nice guy"!

16.) 08 Jun 2023 18:23:44
Suarez was absolutely class. One of the best footballers in the last 20 years.

17.) 08 Jun 2023 19:06:32
I think what the original poster was saying that as bad as he could behave on the pitch and yes many times it was disgraceful and no way defendable. I’ve never seen anything about Suarez off the pitch. Unlike so many other players gerrard, carragher, Rooney, gascoigne, best, Terry etc etc etc. so is it better to be a vile person on the pitch or off it?

18.) 08 Jun 2023 20:22:43
The issue with Suarez as that he didn’t recognise boundaries when he wanted to do something, mostly to get his own way or, on the field, to win. I think I read somewhere that his childhood and his family’s circumstances weren’t the best which, f true, might put his actions into a bit of context. Not saying the things he did were right or ok but just saying they were prompted by past experiences and not just him being a random nutter.

19.) 08 Jun 2023 21:51:30
Still prefer him to Fernandez at united. Never disliked a player more and nothing to do with him even playing for them.

20.) 08 Jun 2023 22:58:52
Most teams have a player that fans would absolutely hate if they played for someone else. For example, only fans of United could love Bruno. If he played for anyone else, United fans would abuse him as much as we do and see him as the cheat that every other fan base does. Suarez was that for us. When he played for Liverpool, almost everyone defended him. A small few even defended the racial abuse denying that it ever happened. Once he left, everyone saw him for what he was. Fans are very fickle.

06 Jun 2023 14:40:18
Questions for Ed1. Assuming macallister signs do you think he'll take over penalty taking duties or do you salah staying on pens?

If we are looking at Kephram Thuram and Kone which one would you prefer if we are only after one and not both?

{Ed001's Note - I can't imagine anyone telling Salah he has to give up penalty taking duties.

I don't really know a lot about either of those two, I seem to remember Kone is a Liverpool fan though, so that would probably make him a better bet.}

1.) 06 Jun 2023 16:44:06
Out of the 2 I would rather have kone as for us it is all about getting stronger defensively in midfield he brings that . Thuram as well would be a dream but i can't see it, also PSG are interested and probably many in Europe.

2.) 06 Jun 2023 17:15:30
Bill shankly would ed regardless of how good Salah is a penalty miss let alone a few a season can cost us vital points. Stick fabinho on them or Trent I'd imagine with his other set piece taking he'd just nail it perfectly in the bottom corner every time.

3.) 06 Jun 2023 17:50:33
If we had the money we would have a great team with all these good players who are Liverpool fans. It’s a shame we can’t make their dreams come true with most of them. At least a lot of them seem to have sense by supporting us, is it only Foden who supports Man City?

4.) 06 Jun 2023 20:57:07
Thuram is the better of the two for me. I d take both though.

5.) 06 Jun 2023 21:41:07
I know Ed’s said it’s either or with these 2 but I think both could be great business as I see thuram being more box to box iit looks to suit his game more

The 2 could definitely complement each other .

Club look to be giving klopp time to work with his new recruits

Let’s hope they can contribute to no 20.

6.) 07 Jun 2023 07:19:19
We should keep Mo on pens. Was a good reminder last season in some games that he was actually playing when I seem him putting the ball on the spot. jokes lol

On a serious note, I'd like to see the responsibility given to someone else. Trent for me as he.

17 Feb 2023 07:26:01
I've got a geordie mate who's a big Newcastle fan.

He reckons we're playing them at just the right time as he says they're looking tired and leggy.

He's also convinced they won't get top 4.

Surprised me when he said all of this but interesting to hear a Newcastle fan's perspective ahead of the game.

Let's hope he's right and let's hope we turn up and play with a similar intensity to Monday.

1.) 17 Feb 2023 07:58:29
Newcastle fans never got ahead of themselves, they are enjoying the ride. They know that bigger and better things are coming for their club. To be honest look at their squad, if we can’t finish above them something is seriously wrong.

2.) 17 Feb 2023 08:25:46
With their league cup final coming up hopefully they have one eye on that rather than treating us like their final.

I think either way we’ll need to play well to win this one.

In 2023 I think we’ve only turned up twice in 8 games so Newcastle is hopefully another stepping stone forward.

3.) 17 Feb 2023 08:32:22
That's funny because that's how I feel about this club.
It's a shame that more people don't get enjoyment out of watching this club, you'd think by the daily comments that it was a form of Chinese water torture or something.

4.) 17 Feb 2023 08:43:43
LFC will also be further strengthened by the return of VVD for tomorrow night, Jota and Firmino also got a run out in the Derby, fingers crossed the squad stays fit for the run in.

As per usual Thiago will have his customary couple of weeks off like he has done regularly since joining the club! Him and Keita must be "joint top" for who has sent the most sick notes into the club the last couple of seasons! Matip a close third!

5.) 17 Feb 2023 09:28:11
If I was a Newcastle fan I'd be negative as well, they're used to being bitten whenever they dare to dream. The 90s were bad enough but like us they have also suffered the pain of finding out how quickly a very competitive side can be turned into a pub team by the management of Graeme Souness.

6.) 17 Feb 2023 10:15:48
I've had the misfortune to watch a few Newcastle games recently and not been that impressed with them at all but. we've been awful as well so I can see a draw coming up! I still think they'll be the team that drops out of that top 4, not sure we'll be their replacement though. Fingers crossed eh.

7.) 17 Feb 2023 10:32:53
Guimaraes suspension has coincided with a drop off in Newcastle's play, but they're at home and will be up for this, we need to be better than we was against Everton to win there.

8.) 17 Feb 2023 11:39:11
I'm amazed at how high they are considering they've got eddie howe.

9.) 17 Feb 2023 15:08:34
Spot on, Faith. People just seem to be unable to enjoy the ride whether the journey results in victory or not. People think in such binary terms these days that there can be no middle ground anymore which is quite sad.

And one more thing, “If you are only happy when you win then, that is a sad life” - Jurgen Norbert Klopp. Legend!

As for Newcastle, I like that their fans are just enjoying the ride cos in the end, those are the emotions that stay with you regardless of the outcome. They are a good team BUT pretty limited in the creativity department. They are a physical team who will bully us if we let them do we have to be ready for the battle that awaits us.

10.) 17 Feb 2023 21:22:11
@Markp - I assume from your remarks that you don’t rate the Newcastle squad (they must be extremely poor if you don’t think they are as good as us, given your comments this season) . Given your opinions on the relative squads, how do you explain our relative league positions?

@Flash - absolutely spot on.

@Thom - I’d hazard a guess that you would be disappointed with whichever team you supported.

11.) 17 Feb 2023 22:31:15
Have you been drinking by any chance WDW?

12.) 17 Feb 2023 23:16:30
Thiago - 46 games missed; total of 199 days or 21.7% time at LFC injured

Matip - 103 games missed; 549 days injured or 23% of time at LFC


Keita - 85 games missed; 779 days injured or 47% of time at LFC.

13.) 18 Feb 2023 05:51:26
Imagine running a business (and I do) and 1 of your 11 employees is not at work for 47% of the time, since almost 5 years. I'd be tearing my hair out.

I wonder if his health insurance premiums get adjusted upwards every year? ?.

14.) 18 Feb 2023 05:58:13
And why has Ox been spared this analysis, Bakedbeanboy?

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31 Aug 2023 22:37:52
Makes me chuckle/ scream when I read comments like we’ve got endo, szobo and Macca so how’s gravenberch going to get games.
Because players get injured and even if the above three stay fit they can’t play every minute of every game and with Europa and cups there will Iikely be a lot of games.
Rewind a few weeks and there was Loads of moaning that squad not deep enough and we need reinforcements. Now we’ve got 4 guess what moaning we’ve got too many and what does this mean for Harvey, Jones, baj etc.
Conclusion - too many people just like moaning!

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18 Aug 2023 22:23:39
Ed2 when you say Amrabat is going elsewhere is that to Man Utd? If so does that mean we have a better chance of getting gravenberch or so they want both players?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained.}

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14 Aug 2023 15:01:34
Nobody really knows what Lavia wants and in any case people can change their minds.
From a basic view surely he’ll get more game time with LFC. Caicedo has arrived at Chelsea and they play with 5 at the back leaving less space for midfielders?
We haven’t got an out and out defensive midfielder and will be playing more games due to European competition.
Maybe he was in london to chat with both parties, Liverpool and Chelsea and hasn’t made his mind up yet.
All of the click bait on other sites is tedious and the negativity and sniping on here is equally tedious.

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13 Aug 2023 08:24:22
Can’t say we’re in a mess yet.
Everyone moaned last season that fabinho’s legs had gone and hendo’s time was come to an end.
Everyone suggested that we couldn’t press as we wanted because we didn’t have the legs.
We play with three midfielders.
We’ve got bajetic, MacAllister, Szobo, TAA as an option, Jones and Elliot.
Yes ideally we’d get one more but could they carry us through to January. Unless we’re very unlucky with injuries surely there’s enough there.
Centre back remains of greater concern to me. I said it at the end of last season and I still think it’s the area to address.

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02 Jul 2023 22:58:32
Ed2 who is a realistic centre back target that is attainable for LFC at the moment?

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

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04 Oct 2023 12:10:12
And then there’s the van der ven challenge on Gomez which looked like a penalty.
I suppose reason for mentioning the udogie one is that there’s no subjectivity there. It’s a bookable offence and he has to go.
We looked more dangerous than spurs with 10 v 11 and you’d think we’d fare better with 9v10 than 9v11 if the ref sends off udogie for his second yellow card offence of the game.
I’m tempted to watch the game through again and make a note of all of these game changing decisions.
Irony is all the focus is now on VAR and the awful performance of the ref himself has been overlooked.

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04 Oct 2023 11:27:44
Great match review Ed 1.
To add fuel to the fire Udogie when on a yellow asked for Jota to be booked which is supposed to be a bookable offence but of course he doesn’t get booked (and therefore isn’t sent off when he should have been) .
I can’t remember a game where the officiating is so bad in favour of one team or another.

{Ed001's Note - I just couldn't list all the missed Spurs bookings for throwing/kicking the ball away or calling for cards as it would have taken another few days. Maddison should have been booked at least 3 times on that basis, Udogie and Romero would also have picked up a couple just off the top of my head.}

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01 Sep 2023 08:11:39
Thanks Ed1. If that’s it then the benefits of the old tactics surely outweigh the inverted full back idea. Especially now we’ve got more mobility back in centre mid again.

{Ed001's Note - I think the old tactics are better, but I am not making the decision.}

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31 Aug 2023 22:39:26
Luke Chambers Ed1. Interesting choice. I’ve not seen much of him. What do you like about him?

{Ed001's Note - he can play left back and left centre back which is what we have been missing. There isn't really any top class options out there that we could sign, so why waste money when we have someone who can do a job as well as anyone we can buy?}

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17 Aug 2023 07:30:55
Nevada - wins the ball and gives it right back? His pass completion is 89%.
I’m in the give the lad a chance he’ll be better than we think group.
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