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29 Jan 2016 01:27:49
Hi Eds - Any legs in the Times reports of us showing interest in Javier Hernandez?

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{Ed002's Note - Hernandez can't move and play this January. Liverpool are stupid but not that stupid.}


1.) 29 Jan 2016 09:33:27
Hi Eds, why can he not move and play?

{Ed002's Note - He has played for two sides already this season.}


2.) 29 Jan 2016 09:51:32
ah, thank you.


 

 

 

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29 Oct 2021 01:32:16
I've been reading the posts about Mo Salah, his contract and his agent's efforts. I wonder if anyone has given any thought to the matter of how other players have fared after leaving Liverpool. The following spring to mind. Ian Rush, Michael Owen, Fernando Torres, Emre Can, Luis Suarez, Philippe Coutinho, Gini Wijnaldum and so on. All big names and all these departures were said to be 'the end. ' The truth was that their careers foundered quickly after joining other clubs. Big money must be good but playing regularly and playing well must count for something. Discuss please.

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1.) 29 Oct 2021 01:58:23
Don’t think we can include the rat Suarez in here. He didn’t really struggle did he lol.


2.) 29 Oct 2021 02:27:31
I wouldn't say winning titles at other clubs is "floundering" and for a large part many of those departures did in the short term hurt, the problem was we became a stepping stone, it hurt our ambitions for success . Playing regularly is of course the goal as is testing yourself to see if you can replicate that at stronger clubs. Salah is currently an integral part of a successful club who imo should pay him the wages he deserves .


3.) 29 Oct 2021 02:31:05
I've always been told, the grass might be greener, but it still needs mowing.
Sometimes a club suits a player and allows them to thrive. Moving club doesn't always work out. I think some players realise this and hopefully Mo is one of those.
I'd rather be a legend at one club and win less then just but another player else where. Truthfully, how many chelsea fans sing about Torres, even with what he won with them. If he had stayed with us, we would still sing about him now. I know if I had the choice between medals or being written in a clubs folk law, id always choose the latter.


4.) 29 Oct 2021 03:03:04
Of course Salah leaving won’t be the end, but the next couple of seasons will be a lot more enjoyable if he’s still here.


5.) 29 Oct 2021 07:10:16
Agree with that Thunderbird.


6.) 29 Oct 2021 09:45:47
But Suarez fell out of favour after a relatively short period and was moved on.


7.) 29 Oct 2021 10:14:28
Suarez played for Barcelona for 7 seasons and only fell out of favour in his final season and then went to Atletico and won the title at 33 and scored 20+ league goals. In no way has he floundered since he left.


8.) 29 Oct 2021 10:37:05
Suarez is an exception without doubt.
I would love Salah to stay but £0 of my own money will be contributed to that cause. Club has to take into account a whole bunch of requirements and needs before committing. Such is life when you are not owned by a country.
The world "ended" when Sterling left, when Torres left, when Suarez left and others.
We have found ways to prevail and will do so again.
There is only one mega star in this Liverpool squad and his name is Jurgen Klopp.


9.) 29 Oct 2021 10:56:20
The world didn’t end when Sterling left, was happy to see the petulant little turd do one and he can stay away as far as I’m concerned.

It is however reasonable to point out that it took us until we signed Torres to adequately replace Owen and after Suarez left it took us until we signed Salah to adequately replace him. The sensible option is to sign him up and give him parity with the highest paid players in the league, as he’s that good.

Selling him isn’t going to achieve anywhere near enough to be able to bring in a suitable replacement, forget the likes of Mbappe/ Chiesa/ Haaland, economic climate/ age/ remaining contract length will see to that, by all accounts we’re seriously considering Dembele and Traore (Ed002 has intimated this on multiple occasions), and if you genuinely believe either of those are good enough to replace Salah, you need your head testing.


10.) 29 Oct 2021 12:21:18
A player no matter how awesome he is, has never been the end of the world nor the end of any club. However if not adequately replaced and sometimes even if he is well replaced, the short term pain will always be there. How you navigate that period? Nobody knows until the actual time comes to pick up the pieces.


11.) 29 Oct 2021 13:42:00
Jurgenator has made the most valid point in this thread. I will be nervous the most, the day Jurgen Klopp decides its time to move on. He is the glue that holds everything together.


12.) 29 Oct 2021 15:26:04
Suarez's career flourished not floundered after leaving us, Salah has to be given his new deal or the owners need to be forced to sell up, what ambition does it show to get rid of the worlds best player, we continue to build round him to make us the best again.


13.) 29 Oct 2021 19:37:02
Get rid?
Lancaster i started this thread and it was a vain attempt to try calm everyone down in case the worst actually happens. IF Salah decides the club are not offering enough and decides to take more money elsewhere that cannot be described as getting rid.


 

 

09 Dec 2018 19:38:55
Is it just me, or does Mo Salah seem to have lost his enthusiasm. He seems very subdued these days. Not expecting him to be like Jurgen Klopp but a little excitement wouldn't look out of place.

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1.) 09 Dec 2018 19:58:22
It’s just you

Mo is fine.

Another big week coming up.

If we can keep winning Citeh will crack.


2.) 09 Dec 2018 20:01:49
More focused I'd say mate, he had a dodgy few months and is probably a bit pissed off at himself? but he's back and wants to prove once again what he can do, people are looking into it too much imo.

{Ed0333's Note - Absolutely spot on mate. Were top of the league, ahead of one the best sides in premeirship history who have a country backing them financially and all some people wanna fixate on is Mo not showing his gnashers when he scores. Can’t we just rejoice that Salah is back and in the mood again. For the record it’s a subject of great hilarity in Egypt that Mo is not smiling after he scores. They haven’t got a clue why either but to them it’s funny to us it’s a national enquiry. Chill and enjoy. This could be the start of something profoundly beautiful.


3.) 09 Dec 2018 20:31:55
Exactly Ed333, well said mate, that's the way I'm looking at it as well. Things right now are perfect for us, we need to enjoy the moment instead of picking out little meaningless things to moan about! I don't think many people will be discussing how he celebrates goals when he and the team guide us to that title.


4.) 09 Dec 2018 21:28:02
I think it's determination. That and the pressure. Why would you want to leave the best team in the most lucrative league after reaching a European Cup final? I don't believe that.


5.) 09 Dec 2018 21:56:00
He was clearly smiling with his teammates at other points in the game. He was just miffed he was taken off before others the other day. he wants to be top scorer/ the best in the world so doesn't like not playing every game all game. Same as Messi/ Ronaldo/ Kane/ Suarez etc. Sign of a winner!


6.) 09 Dec 2018 22:03:21
Good grief, not this again, really? Earlier in the season, people moaned cos Salah was not doing pirouettes and cartwheels after scoring or cos he was not sticking his tongue out long enuff or showing his gnashers wide enuff after scoring. Now, this whole non-issue is back again?

Also, what's there to smile about? The guys has scored a hatful of goals in the past 2 seasons for Roma, LFC and country so what's the the big deal? Is the excitement of us winning games, scoring goals and keeping clean sheets not enuff for some cos an inquiry has to be opened each time he does not celebrate?

IMO, Salah's scoring goals is no longer a big deal. We have bigger fish to fry at this point so we need to have that mean streak if we want to have any chance of wresting the title from City or even get past Napoli which will be NO cake walk.


7.) 10 Dec 2018 06:11:18
People celebrate 8n different ways. Forget the jumping up and down, or the high fives or the slides etc, just look at Mo's determination in his eyes when he scores, and the look on his face. He is happy to score, he is happy for the team, he is happy he put his side in a better position. He just doesn't celebrate the way others do!


8.) 10 Dec 2018 07:55:18
We all know his gone in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - do we?}


9.) 10 Dec 2018 08:17:36
True Walter, Salah will be gone in the summer! on holiday with his family before he returns for preseason with us ;) .


10.) 10 Dec 2018 09:20:56
thinks you said the same last summer Walter.


11.) 10 Dec 2018 10:34:05
Spot on me.


 

 

18 Jul 2017 23:47:42
Good luck to Lucas Leiva.

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09 Jun 2016 19:20:03
Just wanted to wish Daniel Agger all the best for the future. I was sad to see him go and he never seemed to get a fair shake. Sure others will disagree with that but that's life.

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1.) 09 Jun 2016 21:16:00
Another player to get Brendan'd.


 

 

04 Oct 2015 20:50:22
Ancelotti for me with either Carragher or Gerrard (or both) with prominent roles ready to step in, in the coming years.

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11 Dec 2016 01:56:02
The distinction between Hernandez and Sturridge is the word "plays. " One does and one doesn't because he spends most of his time on the treatment table. Perhaps not Sturbridge's fault but having a continually crocked striker doesn't win the premiership. I hope Danny Ings isn't going to end up the same. Firmino isn't a striker and apart from youngsters that leaves Origi who is still learning as well. We're not exactly blessed are we? Hernandez may not be everyone's choice but who else with a decent goal scoring record, with experience of the Premiership, a work ethic and who doesn't continually fall apart is available for the type of money that he would command?

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10 Dec 2016 08:49:34
Thanks Eds. Fingers crossed though. He seems to do well whenever he's given game time, doesn't have an affinity for odd smoking devices in dark corners or come to life in the wee small hours in clubs. He scores goals instead and works hard at it.

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{Ed001's Note - Spurs are still the most likely team for him, if he ever returned to the Prem. They are the ones that have shown interest and tracked him for years. They are also the ones that need a striker.}


 

 

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10 Sep 2016 22:00:35
Well said Ed 001. Poor judgement yet again from Mignolet. On another issue entirely, I'm getting old now so there's probably a really good answer to this, but what's the fascination that GKs have with punching the ball. Simple physics says that when two roundish objects (fist and football)! collide the free one can head off in any direction with at least a high percentage chance it will go to the opposition. Do they not teach GKs to catch s ball these days and then distribute it sensibly (rather than give a team mate the equivalent of a hospital pass!

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04 Nov 2015 20:43:23
Then the club should have told SG to shut up or ship out. That's not Gerrard's fault. No-one wants to play out of position and we've all seen endless cases of foolish managers trying to fit square pegs into round holes. Sometimes as an emergency and sometimes because "they have seen potential. " If expressing an opinion and sticking to it is being disruptive then perhaps we need more of it. Opinionated, disruptive, troublesome, single minded, most of his time at one club. Remind you of anyone else?

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{Ed001's Note - play out of position? Gerrard didn't have a position at that point, but he had just had a fantastic season playing on the right, the best of his career, yet he threw his toys out of the pram and demanded to play in the middle. He never again played to that level. It was not square pegs in round holes, he was better suited to that role than any other. Instead we then were left to completely rejig the side to shoehorn him in centrally and put a square peg on the right, in Kuyt, to make up for his sudden lack workrate defensively. You are right, the club should have told him to shut up or ship out, but that doesn't make him the good guy in this. He has never been the blue eyed boy his image has made him out to be.}


 

 

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04 Nov 2015 17:37:04
He may have had no-one to hold him in check or to keep his feet on the ground but that doesn't stop him being passionate about the club he played for all that time. I simply don't understand the anti Gerrard comments. Yes his legs have gone but that doesn't make him bad or disruptive. The fact that he left to go to MLS was in all probability down to others (primarily Ayre and Rodgers) not saying that it would be good if he stayed as a squad player and had a small coaching role to start off with. The success that Liverpool enjoyed over the years was brought about by identifying emerging talent and getting hold of it before anyone else did, bringing change about continually but gradually and identifying, grooming leaders from within and developing a siege mentality. Apart from the obvious we have won very little by appointing managers who were clearly not up to the job (Dalglish, Hodgson and Rodgers more recently) . It pains me to include Dalglish in that group for his second spell as manager because he is a legend in my view but was a clearly out of his depth. Retain the good, promote from within once people have learned their craft (e. g. Paisley, Fagan, Evans, Dalglish) and have the courage to take a long term view and we might, just might, end up being successful again. Look AF and MU. They didn't get to where they were by chopping and changing like they've started doing now. As to SG's head being turned by offers from Chelsea - who wouldn't have been flattered - only idiots. The fact remains that for whatever reason he decided not to go. Books? They all write them, they are all controversial in some way or another so learn to live with it. Perhaps SG hasn't learned the complete Liverpool way and kept the dirty laundry in-house. However, I bet there's a lot more he could have dished if he had a mind to.

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{Ed001's Note - he was disruptive and a problem long before his legs went. The moment he refused to play on the right under Rafa, and Rafa was forced to accept it by the club, was the moment he became a major problem. As for the books, most of the dirt that could be dished would be on him, so I very much doubt that will happen from him.}


 

 

 

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29 Oct 2021 09:45:47
But Suarez fell out of favour after a relatively short period and was moved on.

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