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08 Jan 2014 10:33:25
I do hope its just people jumping to conclusions about Chelsea not wanting to sell Bertrand because of the amount of game time Moses is getting. Its not like Moses is doing anything to warrant some game time, he has been handed a life line in terms of his career. Chelsea could have left him on the bench but instead they sent him out to get game time, its no ones fault but his own that he doesn't want to take it. I can't the two deals being related anyway, as much as i'm not a fan of Chelsea they never seem to stand in the way of players should they want to leave.

always a red

{Ed002's Note - Right. Chelsea have already replaced Moses and Brendo wanted him on loan, which as you say, offered him a lifeline for his immediate career. In recent days an ex-Chelsea player who deals with the liaison aspects of some of the loan players expressed a concern about the amount of playing time he is getting. Obviously Chelsea would prefer he got more but are pragmatic enough to realise if he is struggling for form that is less likely to happen. It is entirely unrelated to an enquiry made about Bertrand a while back. The Bertrand situation is far from clear and whilst it is true that Liverpool and Everton both enquired about the player, as did Fulham more recently, Chelsea's preferred route would be to use him as part of a deal for another player - but I don't see that happening in January.}


 

 

 

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01 Mar 2022 14:26:55
So it seems Harvey Elliott is in bother with the FA after celebrating with a flare, christ these nerds really are determined to ruin football. Did anyone look at that and think good god arrest that boy.
We should enjoy these good times while we can, because before long the game won't be worth watching.

always a red

1.) 01 Mar 2022 14:43:38
The right way to celebrate is to tuck in your jersey, comb your hair, hands by the side, and say ‘yay’.
Anything more and it’s a crime.

{Ed025's Note - love it sg..


2.) 01 Mar 2022 18:35:42
Flares haven't been allowed in grounds since the 70s. Do you not remember the signs on the roof stanchions on the Kop?


3.) 01 Mar 2022 19:20:35
That lass singing the national anthem had some pretty mean flares. The question is are they acceptable or a fashion crime. I think this should be investigated.


4.) 01 Mar 2022 20:39:27
Agree, ND, there should be an enquiry. I wore them in the 70s, along with patch pockets and Oxford bags. Most people on here won't have a clue what I'm talking about! Ed025 might.


5.) 01 Mar 2022 21:30:07
Unfortunately I do Rome1977. I wore bell bottoms in the sixties!


6.) 01 Mar 2022 21:10:56
Ed025 was the Gok Won of Liverpool back in the day. Whatever he wore the masses followed.

{Ed025's Note - its still that way barry, well it will be if they all wear red high heels mate.. :)


7.) 01 Mar 2022 22:06:27
Ed025 is still wearing them with a star jumper and scarves tied to his wrists. It's still the clobber worn by the Blue half of Liverpool.

{Ed025's Note - we still have birmingham bags as well rigsby.. :)


8.) 01 Mar 2022 22:09:58
Ah ND 'some pretty mean flares' u my friend have brought a smile to my face after a long day haha. I just find the whole thing bizarre, it's not as if the lad brought the thing to the game.


9.) 02 Mar 2022 00:37:58
You blokes sound as old as me but at least I know they're now the height of fashion once again :)


10.) 02 Mar 2022 01:00:28
Mullet hair and platform shoes - bring back the Quo when they were a proper rock band. Ah the memories.


11.) 02 Mar 2022 09:03:20
players should be suspended for that up and down arm dance they all do lol holding a flare is the least of the worries hahahahaa.


 

 

17 Oct 2021 23:59:05
As a red from the north east (i know before u start glory supporter. 1 league title in all my 30 years) I just don't get all the hate and bitterness towards Newcastle, I know we can all get one our high horses about the appalling state of affairs in Saudi Arabia, but let's face it deep down that's not why people are twisting, the issue with most is jealousy, knowing that Newcastle could break into the so called big 6 and upset the status quo. For what it's worth I say good luck to them and hopefully it brings some much needed money and rejuvenation to the area.

always a red

{Ed0666's Note - it’s like when you go to a house party and none of the girls aren’t interested in talking to you because they’ve all got eyes for the stud at the other side of the room. Let’s all reconcile the fact that Newcastle are here to stay and within 2 years they will be major major players in the Barclays Premier League. My initial thought was FSG wouldn’t stay around to compete but there’s so much money in the premiership I’m pretty sure they will.


1.) 18 Oct 2021 00:26:09
With Newcastle takeover that's just the beginning for EPL to turn into Super-league.


2.) 18 Oct 2021 00:36:55
As a neutral I am quite excited by this takeover on a sporting level. I remember the days of Newcastle under Keegan and Robeson and St. James Park was electric. I don’t have any problem with Newcastle shaking things up a bit. However on a human level I find this takeover quite disgusting, to have another homophobic, murderous, repressive regime allowed to own an English football club should not be allowed to happen.


3.) 18 Oct 2021 00:26:56
Thanks for the reply 666, love the analogy too even if in my younger days I didn't do too bad at those house parties haha.
When Liverpool won the league something changed for me, I don't know if it was the relief of finally seeing it happened, or the entire world going to pot, but I just took a step back and appreciated it not the be all and end all. It nice to just enjoy the games as they come especially with this great Liverpool team under this fantastic manager.

{Ed0666's Note - exactly mate I’m gonna take your advice and enjoy while I can because once klopp leaves football won’t be that palatable for me. I truly believe this is highest of peaks and the only way is down after this. The premiership is turning into a mini super league if it hasn’t already and it’s getting way too stupid with all the money being thrown around. I really can’t appreciate or fathom paying soccer players earning 1 million £€ a week which will happen real soon. So again I speak for myself but when klopp goes I think I’ll bow out also. It’s crazy how soccer dictates my life it’s like a drug and addiction I’m looking forward to the free time to be honest.


4.) 18 Oct 2021 02:32:17
From a sporting perspective I think takeover will be great for the quality of the game in the Premier League and from my own view I’m really pleased for the Newcastle fans - a great bunch with a fanatical love for the club (and a reward for having had to put up with Ashley) .

From an ethical perspective I am against it (and would be if it were us who had been taken over) and Staveley’s weasel words about the Saudi Government not being involved are making it less appealing by the second for me.

To be honest I love good football and would welcome any team playing good football, which has what has been so good about Liverpool over the past three or four years in particular and I’m really enjoying match days again. Like Ed0666 I think the bubble might burst when JK leaves but the little kid inside me is still willing to hang about a bit to see what happens next - as I’ve been watching (that I can remember) for over 55 years, I would be at a loss for things to do 🙂.


5.) 18 Oct 2021 03:47:27
The idea that fan resentment towards this takeover boils down to envy or bitterness is nonsensical. People are more aware than ever, far more than in 2003, 2008 or 2011, of atrocities and oppressions committed by certain states, and subsequent attempts to ‘sportswash’ through top-level football. On top of that, the PL/ FA should not be allowing states to take over clubs in the first place.
I think the vast majority of Liverpool fans would be appalled if Newcastle’s new owners took over our club, even if it meant going from 6 CLs to 10.


6.) 18 Oct 2021 07:16:54
I think the FA have been spineless in allowing this. Countries should not own clubs, particularly countries like Saudi Arabia. I recently had to return to the UK from AUs and flights were really difficult to get and expensive. I could have flown with Qatar, but forked out more to fly with Singapore.

Here's a question. How many top players do you think will want to go to Newcastle? I love the city, but I know there have been times when Liverpool have been turned down for a move to a London club.

{Ed0666's Note - Liverpool won’t offer players 2 or 3 times higher than they’ll get elsewhere. These guys mean business they are Man Ciry/Psg and then some. Players will go for the cash sooner rather than later. People think they won’t win the premiership within 5 years are kidding themselves.


7.) 18 Oct 2021 07:48:43
The entire game loses sensible reference points and turns into a real life game of FIFA when the Arab states and oiligarchs get involved.
I mean, Man City may be worth $3 billion now but who else but another Arab state or oligarch could afford to buy them?
The ironic thing was that on the day of the Saudi takeover, the Toon fans were jumping around, throwing drink everywhere, and carrying on, as they do.
If they did that back in Saudi, they’d all be slung in gaol, lol.


8.) 18 Oct 2021 07:42:15
The problem is that football tends to be a moral vacuum at the higher levels.

How many migrant bodies is the Qatar World Cup going to be built on the top of?

So yes everybody should be appalled at the ownership of Newcastle although the truth is non of these mega rich owners will be squeaky clean. So it depends on what your moral compass is willing to overlook.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is wassa that football and morals should never be in the same sentence mate, i remember when gilette and hicks were in control at your club and you were all clamouring to be taken over by saudi,s. people who live in glass houses and all that..


9.) 18 Oct 2021 07:34:10
Wow eds666 they are strong words! I get what you mean though mate. We all want the salah contract sorted but surly Liverpool fc should be doing everything humanly possible to keep klopp at the club longer. The bloke is a genius and the day he leaves will not only be devastating there will be a massive sie of relief from all other clubs!

{Ed0666's Note - I don’t think klopp will stay mate. He’s a gazilonaire and he’s made many hints about him leaving. He can’t keep working miracles there comes a point where mega mega money will trump genius. I agree tho I would be dangling every carrot to keep him from leaving.


10.) 18 Oct 2021 07:56:07
I wish you were right @Lowe, but having an appreciation of the ‘outside world’ isn’t high on the agenda for the majority of fans. Sad, very sad, but true imho.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely WDW..


11.) 18 Oct 2021 08:37:23
tbh Newcastle need to sort themselves out first could be in the championship next year.


12.) 18 Oct 2021 08:04:29
To properly compete with these clubs now, you need super-rich owners Ed066, and the day that happens at Liverpool is the day that I, and a lot of Liverpool fans I suspect, will knock it on the head, despite what Everton Ed says.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m sure if Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk took us over there would be joy.


13.) 18 Oct 2021 10:27:54
People are right to get on their high horse about Newcastle's new owners. Sadly, there's nothing that can be done by us, only their fans, but they won't stay away, because it's footie andtheir vociferous fans.
The issue may come with attracting the best players/ managers. Northumberland is beautiful and Newcastle is a great city, but Newcastle is not London, or even Manchester. It's certainly not Madrid, or Milan, or Barcelona or Paris. They would have to be paying over the odds to attract the best - Even City had to wait several years to attract the best players/ manager and that's with the kudos of the Manchester. Manchester is a brand all of its own and I believe helped attract their personnel. Newcastle has nothing to attract those players, except a ton of cash. Yes I know players are seen as mercenaries by some, but in order to attract the best, they are going to have to push the threshold of salaries and transfer fees beyond anything we've seen I believe.
Another reason to revel in what we have now, because as soon as Klopp goes, unless FSG sell to considerably richer owners we, will not be able tosuccessfully compete in that arena.


14.) 18 Oct 2021 10:33:22
They can’t win the league within 5 years. I know they have unlimited funds but after the first 2 years they will have to spend within some sort of framework. They also need 20 new players and the ones they get in the first 12 months won’t be good enough to win the league. I think it will take them 10 years.


15.) 18 Oct 2021 10:50:30
Another nail in the coffin that is football.
Mike Ashley was a tit but seriously?
I’m sure football fans wouldn’t care if Hitler was resurrected, bought Aston Villa and bought Messi using stollen gold and paintings.


16.) 18 Oct 2021 12:35:39
Stop supporting the team because rich owners come in? Yet there's no problem with high transfer fees, agents fees, high bonuses, high ticket prices, high wages etc etc, football left reality decades ago, if we don't have owners who will spend when we are winning, what happens when we stop being a top 4 side? Rich owners will/ have become a must for the top clubs IMO.


17.) 18 Oct 2021 15:48:39
"I know we can all get one our high horses about the appalling state of affairs in Saudi Arabia, but let's face it deep down that's not why people are twisting"

Couldn't disagree more. This is EXACTLY why I detest what is happening at Newcastle. The people who own that club also sanction state backed beheadings of journalists, torture and murder of minority groups, advocate for the removal of equal rights and sponsor terrorist activities around the world. That's not just me saying that, it's the UN and Amnesty and any number of human rights organisations.

Any distinction between the "company" and the state is purely on paper and the FA have sold out to agree to it.

We all know plenty of countries around the world, including those involved in football in the UK, have issues with human rights abuses, but this is the people guilty of those abuses attempting to sportswash their crimes.

I thank every deity/ karma/ luck that I am not a Newcastle fan as having them as owners would disgust me.


18.) 18 Oct 2021 17:15:15
Absolutely agree with you RedDawn. These funding streams from states with appalling human rights records will be seen in the future in the same way we now view businesses and institutions that were built on the proceeds of the slave trade.


19.) 18 Oct 2021 14:26:41
Ed25, you are absolutely spot on mate. A time a lot of Liverpool fans would like to forget but it happened, we know it happened. Now it's Newcastle it's a problem. How funny. Hilarious thing is, if in a year or so from now they wanted to take us over, the excitement would once again begin. History would repeat itself, there's just a lot of jealousy going on at the moment. its a little odd if you ask me.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid ethics go right out the window when it comes to success and wealth salah, i would imagine every other team would feel exactly the same and yes of course some will frown upon it, but when the top players start signing it would tend to subside a bit mate, now does that make me a mercenary or a realist?.answers on a postcard.. :)


20.) 18 Oct 2021 18:21:43
An Arab state or Oligarch to clarify LancasterRed.
I don’t mind a bit of Bezos lol.

{Ed0666's Note - Amazon workers regularly complain of long grueling hours, hard work, injuries, little pay and timed toilet breaks etc. My point is we shouldn’t be so quick to judge as we all have failings. There is no perfect ownership model unless I took charge of the club. Friday’s would be like a scene out of the ‘wolf of wall street’ (no training on that day obviously) and we’d have Taco Tuesday with margaritas. Salah would be the first million pound a week earning footballer in the UK and I’d act as his agent also. Bobby would be given a lifetime contract because of his Kung fu kick celebrations alone. And I’d buy at least 2 Brazilians every season to keep Ali at the club. I’m well aware of the fact I’m talking bollox


21.) 19 Oct 2021 08:33:34
Cannot see newcastle winning the league in the next 2 years. They may not even be in the PL next season! I think people are getting a little over excited.

Newcastle will have to start with above average players, break into top 6,attract slightly better players, break into top 4 then attract the best players. Whilst some players will jump at the chance to double their salary, they will likely be former top players looking to ease into retirement.

A prime Mbappe or Haaland would not move to newcastle with no guarantee of European football.


 

 

14 Jul 2021 15:45:51
Now while signing Saul would be fantastic its really not financially possible for the club, both transfer fee and huge wages, next on the list would be Bissouma and while its easier to imagine that deal happening would it not be better to just keep the money?

Lets say the club find a buyer for Minamino, Karius, Shaqiri, Origi, Davies or Phillips, Ojo, Wilson and Awoniyi. Would that raise maybe £20-30m? Maybe the club could use that money to bring down the massive debt they are in, no club is too big to end up a financial mess like Leeds were.
Obviously I appreciate that's the sensible boring option and signing Saul or Bissouma the Malen puts us well in the title picture, but getting the bank balance out of the red should be first and foremost.

Now Gini does need replacing but surely even his biggest fan would admit he was average at best last season, I understand he was playing within himself so as not to jeopardize his huge next contract, which he got. So well done to the lad and good luck, but now its time for his replacement to step up.

For me given what he offered the team last year surely between Jones, Keita, Grujic and Ox they can fill the gap.

always a red

1.) 14 Jul 2021 16:01:05
I'd imagine the fringe players will raise over 50m mate. I'd make conservative estimates of 5m for Minamino, 4m for Karius, 10m for Shaqiri, 10m for Origi, 12m for Grujic, 10m for Phillips, 2m for Davies, 3m for Ojo, 4m for Awoniyi, 10m for Wilson. That's 70m with low estimates. So with it likely a few of them might only leave on loan, 50m is a safe estimate. I know there are other costs involved even when selling players, but to say we'll only get £20m from sales is next level pessimism!

Also worth noting we have sell on clause for Luis Alberto who looks likely to be moving. Shoot me down in a ball of fire if you think my prices are overly optimistic but i'd say if we get less than that for any of those players we've been ripped off.

I suspect the 50-70m we can make will be made available to Klopp to sign a forward and a midfielder. I'd actually be fuming with Edwards if he let those 10 players go for 20-30m.


2.) 14 Jul 2021 16:03:33
For all the players u listed above

Mina 7-10m
Origin 10m
Shaq 13m
Wilson 10m
Grujic 10m

Rest maybe for free

If we manage to sell all players we want to bar keita and ox.
I can see ua get 50m in fees


I am not considering other associated cost.


3.) 14 Jul 2021 16:46:57
When did fans start spending the summer getting excited about reducing debt instead of signing new players? stop worrying about paying the bills and look forward to them nice new shiny toys folks!


4.) 14 Jul 2021 16:56:19
Haha Havertz like I say I know it's the boring option and new players are always fun, but it would be nice to have this great club debt free.

But if my prices for the outgoing players were too low, then maybe some new signings and banking some cash is possible.


5.) 14 Jul 2021 16:58:14
I think those estimates (MK and Bhav) are pretty close to the mark - the key issue will be actually selling those players, but I think we will this year as hanging on for the right fee would be more logical when we are not solely dependant on sales to fund incomings, which I believe we are this year.

As an aside, its not beyond the realm of possibility that we also sell Keita, which would boost coffers by £20-£30m in this market.

Thinking about it more closely, I think its Saul's wages rather than upfront fee that is the bigger issue. There is a massive gap between the wages that Saul is receiving and those of the other prospects. Bissouma, Tielemans, Neuhaus, Anguissa - they all currently earn between £20k-£60k per week. So even a pay rise would likely see them on around £100k or less, well within our wage structure (Keita earns £120k, Shaqiri £80k, Ox £120k, Minamino £75k etc) .

Bissouma, for example, may cost more than Saul in transfer fee, but will no doubt want around 1/ 3 or less in wages and isn't going to upset our pay structure.

The more I think about it, the more I believe it will be one of the other CMs - Bissouma or Neuhaus would be my shout - plus someone like Raphinha (currently earning c£90k) as the forward position. What helps is that Brighton have (allegedly) an interest in Phillips and Leeds in Wilson, which may help smooth the path.


6.) 14 Jul 2021 16:59:11
Sorry, Raphinha is actually on around c£20-£25k per week, the c£90k is a monthly figure.


7.) 14 Jul 2021 17:47:15
I don't think we need to worry about finances, i heard the same things before we bought vvd and Allison.
Enjoy the ride and hopefully we'll get some surprises.


8.) 14 Jul 2021 19:25:43
Valuations I agree with them all and maybe we squeeze a little more. However Karius, not sure he would fetch anything.


9.) 14 Jul 2021 20:59:40
Always a red, in specific response as to why the four you named can’t fulfil the void,

Jones is too raw, isn’t alert enough and doesn’t move the ball on quickly enough to fulfil the role, I think as a more attacking midfielder he’d be more effective and should take Keita’s place. Which leads me nicely to.

Keita, in the whole time he’s been here he’s not shown any desire or fight, shown nothing to remotely suggest that he’s a top class midfielder. Lacks work ethic, is injury prone, has a poor attitude and has “off the field distractions”. He should be shown the door. Not deserving of any more opportunities,

Grujic, is going to be sold, that’s pretty much common knowledge. So he’s not an option,

Ox, too injury prone to be relied on as a starter.

That’s why we need to buy.


 

 

20 Feb 2021 08:43:38
With Gini looking ever more likely to leave and a replacement being needed it seems Bissouma is the popular choice, which who be a great signing. But if he was unavailable what would people think of Guendouzi at Arsenal, I know he might not be everyone's choice but I genuinely think there a talented player in there, Arteta seems to want rid so maybe there's a cut price, just throwing the name out there to see what people would think.

always a red

1.) 20 Feb 2021 09:18:59
Not for me mate. Even before his fall out he just never looked good enough to me.


2.) 20 Feb 2021 09:41:47
He's a fantastic player but not sure he's physical enough for us!


3.) 20 Feb 2021 10:19:51
Thiago and Jones are his replacements. Once everyone is fit then I expect our midfield will be Fab, Hendo and Thiago. With Jones, Ox, Milner, Keita etc rotating in and out. No need in my eyes to replace Gini when he goes because in my eyes his replacements are already here. I see little need in spending big money, money we don’t have, bringing someone else in unless others are also going to leave.


4.) 20 Feb 2021 10:30:18
I liked Guendouzi a lot as a player for Arsenal, and he was a teenagerfor a lot of them games so still time for him to develop. Meant to be a bit of a nut but im sure Klopp could sort him.


5.) 20 Feb 2021 10:31:02
I was always under the impression that Thiago was Gini's replacement. Who did Thiago come in for?


6.) 20 Feb 2021 10:37:32
Always a red. I think everyone is worried about replacing Gini if he goes. Bissouma looks a top talent but we have a very top talent ourselves in Curtis jones coming through. Would rather give him the extra minutes to develop than buy another midfielder where in fairness if Gini goes isn’t a position that’s a priority for us to strengthen.


7.) 20 Feb 2021 11:25:52
Why does klopp need to sort every player out. For once let's get klopps no1 picks.


8.) 20 Feb 2021 11:32:10
Bissouma would be a fab replacement. Don't see fab going anywhere anytime soon.


9.) 20 Feb 2021 11:46:14
Jones should be an excellent replacement for Wijnaldum. However, Keita offers very little, Ox hasn't impressed in recent seasons and Milner is coming towards the end of his time with us. A midfielder or two is going to be necessary in the summer.


10.) 20 Feb 2021 12:17:34
I think we’ve seen quite clearly that Thiago is not Gini’s replacement.
He’s limited where and when he can play, particularly in the PL.
Jones in the longer term, possibly though his application of intensity seems to vary considerably.
I’d consider that we’d need another mobile replacement if Wijnaldum leaves.
Bissouma definitely fits the bill.


11.) 20 Feb 2021 12:45:59
I am not sure that is correct The Juicer - Thiago needs a run in his normal position within a full strength team, where he won't be playing as deep as he is now.

You may well be right in your assessment, but we need to see him play in the role he was brought in to do first.


12.) 20 Feb 2021 13:25:21
Per games this season Thiago has better tackles, interceptions, possessions won and duels won than Fab, Hendo and Wiji from last season. Distance covered per game he is on average the same as Fab (11.2), better than Wiji (11) and behind Hendo (11.3). The team also average 20+ more passes in final third and 3 more chances created a game when Thiago plays compared to when he doesn’t. He’s never been known for his assists (but neither are any of our midfielders) but his ability to play forward and take riskier passes will be shown when the front 3 are firing like they have been in the past. My only issue with Thigoa is the fouls he gives away but some of those fouls are actually tactical. Watch the 2 he gave away against West Ham and Spurs I think it was. Both on the edge of their boxes and both times they were just about to hit us on the break with majority of our players forward. I’m actually hoping that Thiago might bring out a better version of Kieta also. Hopefully they are on similar wave length.


13.) 20 Feb 2021 13:40:46
What you been watching the last couple of months JK23?
Thiago can be a downright liability out of possession and in a 3 that’s going to hurt, which it has.
I do agree with the fact that we’ve not had a full strength side out, but equally that’s part and parcel of the English game.
If he always needs a full strength side out to shine, then that’s a problem.
The Leipzig game was much better, higher intensity and high pressing, getting the ball forward earlier instead of that ‘death by football’ stuff he was inflicting on the midfield.


14.) 20 Feb 2021 14:34:09
Thiago was bought as an AM, most games he has had to play more defensively, which is not his best position. Let's judge him when he is able to play in his proper position, with DM's behind him.


15.) 20 Feb 2021 15:07:18
Grujic anyone? He had a very good rating vs Juve in CL even though he played 30 mins.


16.) 20 Feb 2021 15:57:06
Juicer been watching the same games as you mate. I think he’s done well in some games and not so well in others. Which is the story of more or less the whole squad this season. He wasn’t around for the start of this bad spell the WBA game but he seems to be taking most of the blame for the sticky patch. But let’s not forget there’s been plenty of under performances and results this season when he’s also not played. You obviously think he’s been poor which you are more than entitled too. It’s the beauty of being a supporter mate everyone’s opinions will vary. Similar to Bobby I think he’s been off it most of the season and he could literally sleep through a game and would still have people saying the sun shone out of his arse.


17.) 20 Feb 2021 16:19:22
Thiago certainly runs about a lot but most of that has been chasing the ball like a headless chuck before he makes his next foul. I personally don’t think he can be judged until he gets a proper run with ball winners alongside him or a least a proper DM in midfield. Gini has been off the pace and not his usual self and Jones is more forward thinking so Thiago is just being asked to do too much work on his own.
With Fabs in the 6 it will free him up to express himself a bit more and I think we’ll see the best of him.


 

 

17 Oct 2020 15:02:18
And now the madness begins, well u were right Ed025 VAR certainly played it's part, is it EVARton now? haha only joking bud. Pretty decent performance going forward at least, disappointed how negative the blues were but I guess it worked. Obviously the refs will get butchered for that debacle but on to Europe now in mid week, Everton I guess just put your feet up til next weekend 😜.

always a red

{Ed025's Note - i just wish the crowd had been there AAR to witness what was in fact a very good game, yeah we got lucky but thats what happens when your top of the league mate.. :)


1.) 17 Oct 2020 16:18:11
We was totally dominant today, Everton might challenge top 10.


2.) 17 Oct 2020 16:06:32
Ed25, I agree with that. You got enuff luck to last you 3 games cos if Pickford gets a red, you get absolutely smoked, hands down esp. with your lot being a goal down and with the way we attacked the game. The VAR decision on Mane was not my real problem. My problem was that VAR was not employed equally.

Apart from the Pickford assault, how id VAR not check Everton's 1st goal where Kean grabs a fist full of Fab's shirt hence, preventing him from jumping to challenging for the header? It was clear in all the replays BUT mysteriously, VAR is not employed. BUT when Everton are about to take the L, VAR comes out to manufacture an offside that till now, NOBODY can see. Either way, we move on.

{Ed025's Note - nothing wrong with the keane goal RM, you dont have to make things up mate..


3.) 17 Oct 2020 16:14:37
Everton have improved a lot since CA has come in but there is still quite a large gap between the 2 sides, in terms of quality. Digne is a good player, he certainly got the better of Trent who looks way short at the moment. All the best ed, you'll need it with that gk :)

{Ed025's Note - that summed him up today mark, some excellent saves and then some very erratic stuff, one not to be trusted mate..


4.) 18 Oct 2020 13:41:26
Ed25, watch the Kean goal again (from behind the goalposts) and see for yourself.

{Ed025's Note - i have seen it RM and to be honest its something and nothing, those types of things go on at every corner and set piece mate, your keeper should have done better to be fair..


 

 

 

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15 Apr 2021 17:21:44
Oh I wasn't having a go at the lad just saying is not like Liverpool haven't spent big on top players. If the club did have £100m+ to spend I wouldn't blow it on a Haaland.

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15 Apr 2021 13:22:14
Never able to bid for top players? What about Van Dijk and Allison, the owners have spent big money when needed and im sure they will again, just not on ridiculous fees for the likes of Kane.

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31 Aug 2022 23:07:25
My god the owners borrowed money to the club and actually expected to get it back? The scoundrels!
It makes u wonder how they ever became millionaires in the first place with crazy policies like that.

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18 Aug 2022 23:52:40
I've just read that too and couldn't believe how care free he was about admitting such and obvious mistake. These officials demand respect yet do nothing to earn it.

Plus I'm pretty sure even in the WWE hair pulling if frowned upon, maybe someone could ask the Palace centre half on pro wrestling rules after his Ric Flair level selling of a 'headbutt' haha.

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01 Mar 2022 22:09:58
Ah ND 'some pretty mean flares' u my friend have brought a smile to my face after a long day haha. I just find the whole thing bizarre, it's not as if the lad brought the thing to the game.

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23 Dec 2021 14:33:14
Implying Elliott is a scumbag because as a teenager he made fun of someone's voice is a bit much pal, if u really think that then it's probably best to stay at home because the world is mean.

I agree with pretty much everything else though, I find it hard to believe there's any big conspiracy against Liverpool, just people fairly poor at their jobs doing the best they can do.

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18 Oct 2021 00:26:56
Thanks for the reply 666, love the analogy too even if in my younger days I didn't do too bad at those house parties haha.
When Liverpool won the league something changed for me, I don't know if it was the relief of finally seeing it happened, or the entire world going to pot, but I just took a step back and appreciated it not the be all and end all. It nice to just enjoy the games as they come especially with this great Liverpool team under this fantastic manager.

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{Ed0666's Note - exactly mate I’m gonna take your advice and enjoy while I can because once klopp leaves football won’t be that palatable for me. I truly believe this is highest of peaks and the only way is down after this. The premiership is turning into a mini super league if it hasn’t already and it’s getting way too stupid with all the money being thrown around. I really can’t appreciate or fathom paying soccer players earning 1 million £€ a week which will happen real soon. So again I speak for myself but when klopp goes I think I’ll bow out also. It’s crazy how soccer dictates my life it’s like a drug and addiction I’m looking forward to the free time to be honest.


 

 





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