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18 Jan 2018 00:18:50
Rumour has it that Barcelona are to buy Griezmann and Athletico want replace him with Lemar. Any legs on that one eds? That would throw the cat amongst the pigeons!

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1.) 18 Jan 2018 06:53:17
Seems fairly common knowledge that Barcelona will be in for Greizman in the summer. If Atletico want Lemar that could put a spanner in the works for any potential interest we may have.


2.) 18 Jan 2018 08:04:14
If Monaco want an extra £20m, say, for Lemar in January, then why not do it now?
If he's good enough for Summer, he's good enough now?

Arsenal bit the bullet and are selling Sanchez. A bitter pill but at least it's sweetened with some income.
Could / should Liverpool do the same with Can - see if Juventus will stump up £10-15m and then get Lemar in this month?


3.) 18 Jan 2018 08:44:51
We are after Griezmann remember chaps. .


4.) 18 Jan 2018 08:45:09
I agree Juicer. Don't see the point in waiting unless the guy is desperate to join us which he isn't.

He will be in demand in the summer, the price is only going to increase. Monaco don't need the money and he's going to play the world cup in a good french team.


5.) 18 Jan 2018 09:37:53
I can't see it happening he's way overpriced even for us.


6.) 19 Jan 2018 15:22:38
Athletico are not a big club anymore and certainly won’t offer any kind of wages an English club could.


 

 

 

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21 Jan 2018 15:13:53
Hi Eds. A question or two about Grujic, if I may. Is there still genuine hope that he will make it into a first team regular?

I understand the need to get him games on loan, for permit issues as well as personal development and I think the loan was a good idea, for all parties. Also, regardless of what he was told about game time that he hasn't had, he was clearly earmarked as a star of the future. With the uncertainty over Can's future, and the need to bolster the midfield do you think Grujic will have the ability to step up in the near (ish) future?

One more. Yesterday he was deployed as a defensive midfielder for Cardiff. Will Klopp or anyone at Liverpool have had an influence on where/ how they want him to play as well as how much?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know what Liverpool expect but his family are far from happy. He was a young player who was offered too much money by the club who then lied to get him a work permit. There has been no plan for his development at all and it would be fair to say he has been entirely mismanaged by the club.}


1.) 21 Jan 2018 16:40:14
It seems the only plan we had for Grujic was pre season game involvement. Hardly inspiring.


2.) 21 Jan 2018 16:42:07
Must be awful being paid too much money 😏.


3.) 21 Jan 2018 17:05:59
Ok cheers ed. Well hopefully there's a way back for everyone. Would love him to succeed. He's looked pretty good whenever I've seen him.


4.) 21 Jan 2018 21:12:18
He had injuries and is way too robust with challenges but he should have been given more opportunities too. The loan will be good for him either way.


5.) 22 Jan 2018 02:06:59
I agree Amerigo, I think there may have been an initial plan - he was certainly getting games pre-season but injuries have robbed him of time to get experience and consistency. in that time others have come in and pushed him further down the pecking order unfortunately. he needs a loan as he looks further away than ever to the 1st team right now.


 

 

08 Jan 2018 23:55:47
Does anyone fancy a game of random name generator?

If you could pick one name in football, currently playing that we could spend the coutinho money on who would it be? (Whether they would come or not)

I personally love watching Marco Veratti play and although I haven't watched him all that extensively, he exudes class every time I see him. He would add everything we need in a midfielder.

I know nothing of his off field demeanour but on it, he seems to have got the lot.

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1.) 09 Jan 2018 00:16:21
Joshua Kimmich.


2.) 09 Jan 2018 00:29:22
Good shout, might mean curtains for Arnold and Gomez though.


3.) 09 Jan 2018 00:25:51
De Bruyne.


4.) 09 Jan 2018 00:59:33
Ha! Yea I like it. He'd probably cost more than Neymar at the moment, but what a player. Sorry if I'm swearing but he's the closest thing to Gerrard I've seen.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 01:03:40
Hazard.


6.) 09 Jan 2018 01:53:44
Luis Suarez back memories imagine him again the 2nd coming.


7.) 09 Jan 2018 02:06:24
Isco or de bruyne for me.


8.) 09 Jan 2018 03:25:38
Arturo Vidal - getting on a bit but think he would be the deep midfielder to take us to another level.


9.) 09 Jan 2018 04:49:53
Luan Vieira.


10.) 09 Jan 2018 06:16:16
KDB. end of story.


11.) 09 Jan 2018 07:32:48
Dybala for me.


12.) 09 Jan 2018 08:37:22
Verratti the closest thing you have seen to Gerrard? Like seriously? Verratti? Did you only watch Gerrard's last 2-3 seasons at Anfield when he played deeper in midfield? I am seriously curious. Because Gerrard and Veratti are 2 very very different players.


13.) 09 Jan 2018 08:39:04
Asensio.


14.) 09 Jan 2018 17:24:33
No sorry, not Veratti, De Bruyne. I was replying to Salah :)


 

 

30 Dec 2017 20:07:01
Frickin' love Gomez. Strong, quick, hardly flustered, tackles, intercepts and still only 20. Just thought he was worth a mention. Best player today for me. Him and Trent are exciting. Don't often say that about defenders.

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1.) 30 Dec 2017 20:25:56
Yeah a bit of alright isn't he mate, really like the lad, I'm excited to see him and VVD in the defence together because before VVD, Gomez was the only defender really worth a mention. I know TAA is class as well, Moreno has impressed me this season but the more notable is Gomez, he is excellent especially when you consider his age.


2.) 30 Dec 2017 20:45:10
Lots still to learn tho! But yh looking good. Best of luck to the boy, they all need it. 💪✌.


3.) 30 Dec 2017 20:53:13
When do we think Klopp is going to move him more central. Will it be this season, next or longer?


4.) 30 Dec 2017 20:58:41
Think it will be the summer Jayden, put him in there now with all our defensive issues and it could ruin his confidence. Give him preseason to build an understanding with VVD, don’t rush with the lad as he has huge potential.


5.) 30 Dec 2017 21:00:22
I'd like to see it this season with VVD Jayden the thought excites me I just can't see it happening, I think maybe next season.


6.) 30 Dec 2017 21:03:06
WYred agree on that mate.


7.) 30 Dec 2017 21:49:46
Back off guys. he's a work in progress! Encouragement is good but temper the expectation. He still has a lot to learn. his decision making is still developing and he will make mistakes.
I'd like to see Lovren given a run with VVD, I'm convinced he'll come good with a quick, mobile partner. Certainly in the short term. Matip for me brings nothing but frustration!


8.) 30 Dec 2017 22:41:48
Matip has gone from being our best defender to 4th choice in the matter of a few months. Obviously this an opinion based comment but I think it says a lot about his quality and consistency that this can even be an opinion. At his best he’s probably our best CB IMO, however now that a young unproven English lad, an aging Estonian and a mistake riddled Croatian are being preferred to him says a lot about how poor he has been this year. Surprised as he looked good at Schalke. What do we do so differently that brings out the worst in our CB’s?


9.) 30 Dec 2017 23:47:15
Westwood, it's all about systems. Matip confessed in the offseason about how he could not believe the pace and strength of CF's in the PL until he started playing in the PL. In the Bundesliga, you don't have that type of tempo and physicality. I remember Ed02 saying that Matip was decent BUT not great and he/ she was right. Matip has been exposed as a poor CB who can be very good BUT seems to just wanna coast thru games and is like VVD, a stroller only that VVD is very talented and needs coaching.

Lovren has always been a very good CB ability wise since his days at Lyon (he signed there from Dynamo Zagreb at 19) BUT his prob was what was btw his ears as he was so rahsh in the challenge as we have all seen here at LFC. That part may have been improved upon now BUT at Saints, he had Fonte (the leader of their defence) next to him along with two DM's in front of him. BR played him alongside the dreadful Skrtl with Wee Joe at DM for the disaster we know of now. To me, Lovren would be my pick to partner VVD as he needs a calmer head next to him and he is second only to VVD ability wise, IMO.


 

 

22 Aug 2017 09:42:27
Well, apparently reports this morning that couti's agent (s) are now downplaying the links and saying he had to try a hardline stance to get the deal done, but having realised it's not happening, are making all the noises for him to get reintegrated into the squad and playing down his involvement in the transfer request etc.

Any truth in this eds? I didn't think it would happen anyway.

Wellredknuckledragger

1.) 22 Aug 2017 09:47:17
Good to see his back injury has cleared up.


2.) 22 Aug 2017 09:48:56
He seems like the kind of guy who could get led around easily by such people, ed002 already suggested that he could have been pressured into signing the contract in January.


3.) 22 Aug 2017 09:50:25
Well He need to do something to win over the fans. Blame others or apologize in public ( which I don't think will ever happen ) . I don't think this would change Klopp's mind!


4.) 22 Aug 2017 10:02:34
Theyve obviously realised its not happening and that its world cup year.


5.) 22 Aug 2017 10:13:33
That Joorabchian chap is one real snake. Outrageous statement after what has been said and done. This only degrades PC even more in my eyes.

Apologize and hang your head in shame, then work twice as hard to regain some level of trust.


6.) 22 Aug 2017 10:27:25
I think he needs a few games in the u23's to sort him out. He shouldn't get a fast track back to the first team if he isn't going to Barca.


7.) 22 Aug 2017 11:13:58
Just saying, he has not done or said anything publicly to justify any vilification from anyone. Not that I distrust 002's info, but footballers don't always possess the necessarys to think for themselves entirely. Especially when an agent or equivalent is pushing and pushing etc. If he comes back and knuckles down then I have no qualms with him.


8.) 22 Aug 2017 12:24:34
explain how that helps anyone Dennis?

an adult conversation around conduct will suffice just fine.

leaving him out of the team when we have city as our first game after window closes will only hurt us as a team.


9.) 22 Aug 2017 13:25:34
Spot on, 87red. What were we expecting from an agent like Kia Joorabchian, a real piece of work? We have known Cou for 4 years and we know how much of a nice guy he has been. As soon as I knew who his agent was, I knew it was his agent egging him on cos Cou just does not have it in him to do and say all that crap. He has his part of the blame for sure and should/ will be dealt with in house by Klopp and that should be that. and for those saying "he should not play here again" or "he should play some games in the reserves" or this or that crap should just calm down and breathe easy. That will benefit no one but our opponents. We need him and we all know it as the CP game suggests so he will be dealt with and will be ready for City in a couple of weeks.


 

 

20 Aug 2017 13:07:30
Ed (s), just wondering, you seem to be increasingly frustrated with folks who don't understand the finances and all the behind the scenes football stuff, but ask about them anyway.

Have you got any suggestions for reading material so that we can learn a bit more about it all?

There is somewhat of an implication that the stuff we see and that gets reported, in general, is only the tip of the iceberg. How do we get underwater?

Wellredknuckledragger

{Ed002's Note - Without know what your questions are I cannot suggest what to read. I have explained about, FFP, about the monies involved in transfers etc. over and over again.}


 

 

 

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21 Jan 2018 17:44:50
If you type 'Liverpool' in to Google you get a load of articles in the results. Well over half are from the Express or the Star and have headlines such as 'Liverpool fans are fuming over this' or 'Wait till you see what this person has said'. It makes a mockery of people's sensibilities and p**ses me right off!

What's worse is you can't block these 'publications'. Any journalist who considers themselves a journalist shouldn't associate with these trash spreaders and any reader who reads them online doesn't even get to be able to wipe their backside with the tripe that they peddle out as news. Don't get suckered in to click bait. It's there to insult you, not inform you.

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17 Jan 2018 20:34:13
Ha. The rumour mill is running out of water.

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14 Jan 2018 15:17:05
Sorry ed, you said great series and garage records in the same sentence. I trusted you man.

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13 Jan 2018 23:46:37
Boom boom Bambam!

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13 Jan 2018 11:27:00
You're right, I gave up trying hard because I was getting nowhere and so I only get to a game once in a blue moon. It is difficult to get to matches and you saying you only get the big games for loyalty proves it - that's near enough half you're stated attendance. Yes I can get to some cup games, but they aren't exactly high profile ones, and more often than not, the team you're watching doesn't contain half the players you hoped to see. To get in the position where I could see a Merseyside derby, for example, would take several years of preparation and then, if I missed one, through say illness, I would have to go right back down the ladder again. Etc etc. All I'm saying is people that complain about the price they pay to see games forget how fortunate they are to see the games at all. To go any gig of an act just as high profile and you'll pay more. It's an entertainment business, not a social gathering nowadays.

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22 Jan 2018 01:22:01
After recent years dross a couple of consecutive champions league qualifications and a decent cup run or two would be great. A trophy would be lovely but if not, progress is still progress.

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21 Jan 2018 17:05:59
Ok cheers ed. Well hopefully there's a way back for everyone. Would love him to succeed. He's looked pretty good whenever I've seen him.

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21 Jan 2018 14:42:13
People like having a quantifiable amount to talk about so they can compare good value (or not) of players. Average Joe certainly doesn't understand ins and outs of football finance so round figures used to stack up as Top Trumps comparisons makes sense. When X is sold for Y, there is this amount left to buy A and B. It may not be true but, if you didn't have any semblance of fees and value, how would you know that Messi is too expensive for Burnley or that Newcastle can't compete financially with Liverpool. My point is, the numbers may all be broadly inaccurate but they do give average Joe some sort of perspective.

Really, it is just that people in large numbers are stupid and will happily believe what is the easiest thing to find out. This, more often than not is what they are selectively told, not what they have had to find out for themselves.

By the way, the only way I feel I am not just average Joe is because of this site. So cheers eds. If you throw enough mud at a wall, eventually some of it sticks.

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21 Jan 2018 12:03:46
The clubs will be aware of this, however, so it can be used knowing that money will be coming in to pay for another player in instalments. It may not be in one lump, but selling clubs still know that money will be coming.

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20 Jan 2018 18:37:01
Moreno doesn't press so much as hover around between defence and attack. What Robertson did wasn't ill disciplined. He knew that we were already in formation and so someone would fill in for him. There is a difference between a full pitch press when the team can cope and abandoning position more in hope than expectation.

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