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07 Jul 2018 12:11:10
Ed 002 these Dybala rumours what do you make of them? Absolutely zero chance or is there actually a slight chance?

Volvic orange

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest in Dybala from Liverpool and there is no reason for Juventus to look to sell him.}


1.) 07 Jul 2018 14:37:35
You means Edwards isn't on his way to Italy to thrash out a deal? Well I am well and truly stunned! 😏.


2.) 07 Jul 2018 17:44:36
I'm not even thinking about it until I see him doing the Melwood lean. One of those that's very unlikely to happen.


3.) 07 Jul 2018 19:45:38
I have no ties at juve but everyone I've spoken to who does have Tues to Italian teams has heard of no interest.


4.) 07 Jul 2018 22:08:18
Thought you said they where open to get rid with Real his likely destination?

{Ed001's Note - no he did not say that. I said that he was suggested to Madrid as an option and they were keen and so is he. If I did mention anything about Juve being open to getting rid, it was in error as I have no idea what Juve think, it was not their suggestion.}


5.) 08 Jul 2018 00:05:39
No chance.

Still would prefer us to get another cb and cm in.

Dembele and kehmir for me.


6.) 08 Jul 2018 00:48:22
I’m more excited about the rumours about Brandt. I think he will be very special. I hope we get him.


7.) 08 Jul 2018 04:33:48
Who is kehmir?


8.) 08 Jul 2018 09:10:28
Sorry kehrer** auto correct. Oh and fahrmann, voted budeliga go of year a few years back and would provide excellent German tutorlidge to karius.

Kehrer is a young cb for them and an absolute beasty!


9.) 08 Jul 2018 09:21:56
I assume Kloppsboss meant Fekir @angus lee.


10.) 08 Jul 2018 12:23:32
Cheers Ed1.


11.) 08 Jul 2018 13:10:59
He's on his way, he's just borrowed ayres Harley and it's broken down!


12.) 08 Jul 2018 13:45:36
Not happening.


 

 

18 May 2018 17:22:41
Ed 001 have you yourself heard anything about dembele or it just a dream? What do you think of him? I think he's got the potential to be one of the best In the world.

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - Klopp has been trying to sign him since he came in. Ousmane I mean. He has potential but he has also suffered with injuries.}


1.) 18 May 2018 17:43:23
If we could get him ed where do you see him fitting in, mane’s slot with mane dropping deeper al la Coutinho role in mid or litterally roatation, I do suppose with so much quality roumoured will help our style of play lasting the 90mins, having such attacking subs would be great.

{Ed001's Note - it will depend on who needs a rest and who we are playing.}


2.) 19 May 2018 03:49:17
If we did manage to sign him I'd be concerned more than anything.


3.) 19 May 2018 07:31:21
Or we could go a 4231 eith Bobby up top. Who knows?


4.) 19 May 2018 10:55:00
Fit it on the physio bed next to Hand is, 😉.


 

 

29 Apr 2018 22:51:24
Ed001 rumours have started on Twitter that buvac is leaving at the end of this season can you confirm that this is nonsense?

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry, literally just woken up and had nothing yet.}


1.) 30 Apr 2018 07:27:56
Reports are saying he's already gone! . not good timing.


2.) 30 Apr 2018 07:53:15
Tbh can't really see that happening. They are working together since Mainz Days (2001) and i don't see why they should change now.


3.) 30 Apr 2018 08:20:59
Crammie, maybe it's due to new found fame and $. I believe the pay between Buvac and Klopp is huge! Not only that, Klopp gets all the accolades when you can say 90% of research is by 2 assistants.


4.) 30 Apr 2018 08:57:05
Seems like he's gone. Must have been quite a bust up for him to leave a month before the season ends.


5.) 30 Apr 2018 09:07:01
Now being reported by LFC reporters. The club says he's taking a break from the first team.


6.) 30 Apr 2018 09:29:45
He’s a grown man I don’t think it’s because Klopp gets all the fame lol.


7.) 30 Apr 2018 09:49:11
A shame none the less, but good luck to him for the future.


8.) 30 Apr 2018 10:01:41
No idea if it’s true but I’ve heard Buvac has flown home.
And that the bust up with Klopp was over Gini Wijnaldum.
Buvac believes Gini should be first choice in midfield and fears he’ll leave if he’s only going to be a squad player. Especially when Keita and maybe another midfielder comes in.
Like I said, only what I’ve been told.


9.) 30 Apr 2018 10:02:28
Does this mean gerrard number 2 and not off to rangers.


10.) 30 Apr 2018 10:15:11
The club has now confirmed to reputable reporters that he is on leave for personal reasons. He has not left the club. Duncan Castles (the Manc supporting journo of sorts) stoked the fires late last night when he suggested that Zeljko Buvac had quit the club but the club has categorically denied this stating that Buvac remains an employee of the club.


11.) 30 Apr 2018 13:08:46
I think there has been strong disagreement behind the scenes for a while.

I was puzzled by Kopp's appearing so sensitive about his team selection and substitutions recently. I wondered who he was responding to.

Not as puzzled now.

Best of luck to him. I hope he lands a great job somewhere.


12.) 30 Apr 2018 13:20:40
Gerrard number 2. is this a joke, because it's not a very funny one.


13.) 30 Apr 2018 13:33:10
I think for this one it's going to have to be a case of 'wait and see' and dropping the speculation. It could literally be anything from a long list of possibilities, for example serious family illness, relationship problems, workplace falling-out, lifestyle problems, threats from Serbian gangsters etc etc etc.

It will come out in the next few weeks whatever it is. I just hope it's nothing serious on a personal level and it doesn't have the same effect that Pako leaving had under Benitez (we were never the same after that for the rest of Benitez's reign)

{Ed001's Note - it is just a case of wait and see but it is a case of someone who was the main man feeling marginalised by the fitness coaches having a bigger say in team selection than he does, from what I can find out. That seems to be the key issue here. So I do not expect it to be resolved in any kind of return of Buvac, more likely a parting of the ways. It is not about player 1 or player 2 being chosen as such, it is because the tactical considerations Buvac believes in are now being totally overridden by the fitness considerations. I do not see this being solved easily or at all to be honest.}


14.) 30 Apr 2018 14:07:18
Ed 001, what u say totally ties in with Henrikh Mkhitaryan say about Klopp. Klopp has a soft spot for hard running tireless working on field. Mkhitaryan feel Tuchel got Dortmund playing a more intelligent style of football post-Klopp. Could be Klopp's selection leaning towards fitness rather than finesse.

{Ed001's Note - Mkhitaryan was an average player who was not putting in the effort and so was looking for someone else to blame for being a lazy tool. Same reason Jose dumped him so quick. He is not as good as he thinks he is.

This is nothing to do with hard running, try reading what I said properly. It is about players being selected for fitness reasons rather than tactical ones. The rotation to keep them fresh etc, not about how fast or hard they run.}


15.) 30 Apr 2018 14:07:46
I remember someone posting on here recently (may have been you Ed001) that the fitness coach is doing a great job and is getting a lot of praise for the upturn in form and fitness in the squad, it’s a shame Buvac feels like he needs to leave though.


16.) 30 Apr 2018 14:23:55
Ed001 - I wanted to ask a follow up question to your comment. It's a given that Buvac and Klopp may decide how things go on the field, i. e. how the player plays. But it's pretty obvious that it is the fitness coaches who decide whether a player steps on the to the field or not, isn't it? So I don't see why Buvac should feel marginalised if a player is physically unable to perform? Or am I missing something? I don't know anything about the internal workings of a football team's structure, but is there a separate hierarchy for the fitness and medical staff? Do they report to Klopp or to someone else? Is this the result of some kind of power play or power struggle?

{Ed001's Note - this last few weeks most of the decisions on player selections, in the Prem at least, have been governed by resting players for the CL. Buvac would have done things differently and the whole thing just came to a head. While it is perfectly possible things can be resolved, the fact that he is basically being overruled constantly is not likely to change. So I do not see any return for him to be honest.}


17.) 30 Apr 2018 14:31:54
Okay, Ed001, thanks.

{Ed001's Note - the thing is it is very hard to tell for sure, as it is like a marriage, sometimes one or both has to compromise. Buvac has been compromising all along to be Klopp's number 2, rather than taking his own role as a number 1. I think it has just been one too many compromises. The club would not be giving him the time off if they were sure it was over though. So I might well be wrong and it can be resolved. Maybe some flowers and chocolates, a romantic meal for 2 and breakfast in bed the next morning can sort out their differences?}


18.) 30 Apr 2018 15:12:49
Ed001, I think UCL medal given personally to him by Klopp will soothe whatever grievances.

{Ed001's Note - good idea.}


19.) 30 Apr 2018 15:25:33
Usually a raise in salary helps soothe things. Did Buvac and Kraviec get raises and extensions when Klopp got his? I just hate the timing of it before the biggest game of the year so far.

On a side note, do Eds know if Firmino's extension has a release clause?

{Ed001's Note - it is not about money and release clauses are irrelevant in England.}


20.) 30 Apr 2018 15:30:14
It's also potentially possible that Klopp can reassure him next season, with the workload shared across the season by a few more bodies, that everyone will naturally be getting a little more rest anyway and therefore we will have more scope to be picking teams solely on the tactical merit of players. Of course that could also go the other way - Buvac being overridden by Klopp trying to give our game time and keep players happy - but it's possible.


21.) 30 Apr 2018 15:57:42
Some very big news about our club has just dropped. On the eve of the biggest game in a decade.

So obviously we're going to speculate about what has happened. What did people expect?

Thanks, Ed001 for shedding some light.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is, and why it has only come to light now despite being an issue all season, Buvac and Klopp are always bickering. Usually they kiss and make up pretty quick. Which is why this does seem unlikely to be fixed, as it has reached the point of separation.}


22.) 30 Apr 2018 16:20:43
It seems to me it will be mainly up to Buvac whether there is a return. As you say, the door has been left open for him.

It might be he wants to be number 1 somewhere, but in that case why wait so long? One phone call from Klopp would surely have gotten him the head job at say, Mainz, years ago.

Hopefully he will get bored sitting at home watching football on TV, climb down, hash out what his role will be in the set-up, and fly back in the summer.


23.) 30 Apr 2018 16:35:23
In reply to your comment, Ed001, I would say that most of us find ourselves to be where we are in life, because that's the limit of our ability or our ambition. If Buvac has always been a number 2 to Klopp for all these years, maybe it's because that's where he is best suited to be? Klopp has clear leadership abilities that nobody can deny, and this is very important at a club like LFC. Do you remember Steve Clarke under KD? He was very highly rated, did a good job of setting up our defense, and yet failed as a manager on his own. Just an example. I'm not saying at all that Buvac's fate should be always as a number 2, or have to bow down to others in the staff. I'm just saying he's no untested novice and has a history as both player and coach and knows the footballing world/ environment really well. I'm super surprised all this couldn't have waited until the season was over. Destabilizes the team and puts him under a bad light.

{Ed001's Note - I would say that is very often not true, otherwise explain how Sam Allardyce is still getting jobs? Or Alan Pardew?}


24.) 30 Apr 2018 17:50:11
Eds how inportant is Buvac to the project? Do you know if there are certain responsibilities that are exclusively his ie scouting/ traning etc.

{Ed001's Note - training and tactics are his areas. In the short term his loss will have little to no effect. Long term it depends on how well we replace him, unless they sort things out.}


25.) 01 May 2018 02:56:45
1. Haa. Ed001 comment on Big Sam and Pardew had me laughing (because it's so true) . While we hope that competence, aptitude, ability and decency are key qualities in determining our career opportunities and ceiling, it isn't always the case. There are other things like contacts and relationships, supposed relevant experiences, limited options of those available, once-off / previous but dated successes that people still clamor about, reputation, etc. That is how some incompetent or semi-competent people continue to hold big jobs while others are still waiting for their chance.

2. Being marginalized is never a good feeling, especially when your role and functions are being redefined so drastically. I just wonder if this is a case of Klopp adapting (as Ed002 often said he is a stubborn man) while Buvac not doing so / or agreeing to it. But to have the fall-out made public now is indeed, very bad timing.

3. Be it reconciliation or replacement, it is imperative to find the right man. Many a great manager had lost their way after their able partner moved on (cue Brian Clough) and I certainly hope this isn't the case for Klopp for the sake of LFC.

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe it is only about him feeling marginalised as such. More that they have fought in the past but Buvac has always swiftly resolved their differences because they are friends and Klopp needed him. Now Klopp has others he no longer needs Buvac in the same way so Buvac is not under the same pressure to resolve it to help him out.

When your best friend or a close family member needs your help, even though s/he is being a little bitch about everything and you end up bickering constantly, you do tend to just put it aside to help her/him. But the moment s/he stops needing your help and s/he acts like a little bitch, you just say sod em and leave them to it. While I am not saying Klopp is acting like a little bitch, I am just pointing out that the motivation to resolve their differences is lessened when there is no longer that need for your presence.}


26.) 02 May 2018 16:55:57
Anyone that is driven wants to progress and grow in their career and lives, and coupled with Ed1's comments regarding his decisions/ suggestions/ input taking a backseat to others, maybe he just feels he needs to be number 1 to grow and progress and try it out elsewhere. No one wants to be number 2 their entire career, they eventually progress and grow to number 1. If he is given a chance elsewhere, good on him and wish him the best of luck! Well deserved.


 

 

23 Aug 2017 22:23:09
Few rumours saying we are interested in Leon Goretzka

Volvic orange

1.) 23 Aug 2017 22:37:32
Wouldnt be too bad for DM freeing up Hendo to get forward again like tonight.
Iirc Barcelona (linked with every player atm) and Arsenal are linked with him too.


2.) 23 Aug 2017 22:40:43
Is he a goalkeeper, because we won't be winning anything with Migs in goal. I am not saying that it would have been easy to save those two goals tonight. But they are the sort of goals that your keeper needs to keep out if you are going to win something. played 4 conceded 6 is bottom half of premir league form.


3.) 23 Aug 2017 22:42:35
Hope so might b bit injury prone, I like kovecievic, why not mahrez as well he got quality.


4.) 23 Aug 2017 23:51:00
Hopefully when Klopp starts his rotation of GKs, one of the other two (Karius and Ward), will emerge as the new #1. Mignolet is going back to his old uncertain self.


5.) 24 Aug 2017 00:42:23
We are a very offensive team. We can't pretend to attack like we do and don't concede goals. We don't play defensive tactics like Chelsea or Manchester United. Yes they win, concede less goals and sometimes they score many goals but they don't play exciting football like us. Any goalkeeper will have problems in our way of play.


6.) 24 Aug 2017 02:42:04
Mignolet is not a problem. The team is going to concede and he is not at fault all the time. Our keepers as a group are strong, competition for the job should make them all better.
FFS support the players.
Matt in FL.

{Ed001's Note - Migs clearly is a problem, he has reverted back to being dodgy again. We are going to have to revisit that position before he starts costing us games again.}


7.) 24 Aug 2017 04:26:26
Mingnolet has done okay so far this season. I don't see what he has done to justify your criticism. The boys were unbelievable tonight. Proper football team. Capable of blowing ANYONE away on that form. Leave it at that. What more do the lad's have to do to get you off their backs? 6.0 every week? Idiots.

{Ed001's Note - he was awful! He has been poor since the season kicked off. Why are people defending him? We saw last season he can play better than this, so he deserves criticism for letting his level drop.}


8.) 24 Aug 2017 04:33:14
Exactly vakPa. The boys qualified for the champions league and they're getting slated. Every single player in that first team has done his bit.

You thumbs down when I predict we will win the league and you slate our players when they win well. Are you sure you're on the right site? I hear there is a man utd one too.


9.) 24 Aug 2017 05:22:31
He dropped z catch in a packed penalty area. It wasn't great no. But I don't think he has done think hat bad this year. Watford game was iffy but the other three I have actually been pleased with him. I appreciate your opinion ed and it is not our strongest part of the pitch (GK) after watford I have had my heart in mouth at set plays but mings has been pretty dominant in last few games. Just baffles me how on the eve of a fantastic win and a great night for the club, people find time to come here and slate players? The boys done well. I don't give two figs if we concede 2 as long as we score 3,4.

{Ed001's Note - really? I must have watched different games from you because I have not seen anything dominant from him, unlike the end of last season. He has been quite the opposite and very jittery. No point coming on and slating him after he has cost us goals again, he needs to sort it out or be dropped before that happens. That is why people mention it. It is not some youngster or new signing trying to bed in, there is no excuse for him to revert to the way he was. He knows what is expected of him, showed he is capable of meeting expectations and he also knows there are two other keepers there waiting.}


10.) 24 Aug 2017 05:26:58
I don't see how mings was at fault for either goal either? Their second was a good header and mings could never have got there. If he'd come for it and (inevitably) missed it, he would get slated and their first was a good goal. Anything else he did was sufficient.

{Ed001's Note - sufficient is not anywhere near good enough for Liverpool.}


11.) 24 Aug 2017 05:39:45
Couldn't of put it better Ed001.

Sufficient can no longer be good enough for Liverpool Fc. No excuses now. We have champions league football and a well respected manager. We should be looking to transition our weaker first team players like mignolet, lovren and Moreno into squad players and replace them in the first 11 with quality players.

On their day mignolet and lovren can be good but the gap between their best and worst is just too great. They have had their chance to improve their consistency and Havent. Now is the time to look sign some new quality players or give other squad players a chance to prove they can play at the required level.

If we persist with mignolet, lovren and Moreno we
Won't get back to title challengers and regular champions league competitors. We will be in the state of limbo we have been for the last 8 years.


12.) 24 Aug 2017 05:40:29
He made some woeful mistakes yesterday that could have led to 1-2 goals yesterday! Bad punches, Poor Handling.


13.) 24 Aug 2017 06:08:43
FYR, Goretzka is not a DM. He is an offensive CM
who excells in passing and distributions.


14.) 24 Aug 2017 06:19:02
As one of the people that said Mings needs to be replaced, I stand by it. I am not saying he didn't put a shift in yesterday and I am not detracting from the amazing result that gets us back in the Champions League proper, however.

We had some outstanding performances from excellent players last night. Those kind of performances expose the weaker players in the team and in his current form, Mings is a weak link. We were lucky not to concede from some of his mistakes and could have been looking at a different result. We need a keeper that is as impressive in these games as many of the outfield players were last night to stand a chance of competing in the CL and Prem. a really good team like Real etc would not have let those chances go begging and would have torn our defence apart.

The great thing is, we now have the platform to build and hopefully the hints from Klopp after the game means Can is staying (he was incredible) and we can sign some players, but one of those has got to be a keeper.


15.) 24 Aug 2017 06:14:37
Sufficient in the sense that he didn't make mistakes that led to goals. Therefore it's sufficient. I don't think you guys understand the meaning of the word lol. If every player was sufficient in every game we would win the league, the league cup, the f. a cup and the champions league. I stick with my original statement. Idiots. The team can't lose and be sufficient. Any display can only be described as sufficient if it is a win or sees us through to the next round.

{Ed001's Note - or perhaps you don't understand English well enough. Why do you have to be an arse and insult those who disagree with your biased viewpoint? Especially when sufficient does not necessarily mean what you are taking it to mean. I mean you think 'any display is sufficient' when that is simply not true. Winning 1-0 is sufficient. If we had drawn 0-0, that would have been sufficient. Anything more is not sufficient, it is more than sufficient. Perhaps you should rethink your usage of words before calling other people idiots?}


16.) 24 Aug 2017 06:15:47
Sufficient = enough. Liverpool done enough.

{Ed001's Note - again you are missing the point because of your total inability to look at the game with a clear head. It is your kind of thinking that would keep us from winning trophies. Do you think Paisley looked at a performance and thought, "that player was sufficient last night against a poor side, I won't bother looking to upgrade him"? Or do you think he looked to be better than just adequate and tried to find better? If you had your way, we would be standing still while everyone else moved forward.}


17.) 24 Aug 2017 06:34:40
I apologise for saying idiots. It was out of order. Didn't like seeing the boys slated after a good win. I know gk is not our strongest area but I think he has done okay so far. My opinion ed and you slated me. I do understand English, I am actually an undergraduate in English literature. Sufficient means enough. If a team does "enough" or "sufficient" then that is a positive and can only mean a win or qualification. To say sufficient is not good enough for liverpool is wrong because that is exactly what klopp and his team of coaches strive for day after day.

{Ed001's Note - no they do not, they strive to do more than enough. Clearly you still fail to understand English language if you think that all anyone aims for is 'enough'. If you want to see what sufficient gets you, it is Tony Pulis. That is a man who aims to do 'enough'. Top coaches aim to be better and to constantly improve, not just do enough.

By the same token, a keeper doing 'okay' is simply not good enough. Just like the coaches look to improve the players at the club, the scouts and analysts are looking to improve on the quality of players through recruitment. We have a keeper who is okay, but that is not sufficient for a club that wants to win things. We need a keeper that inspires confidence, that makes top class saves, that is more than merely adequate or sufficient.}


18.) 24 Aug 2017 06:36:00
Along with migs both Matip and Lovren did mistakes. We should change that whole backline.


19.) 24 Aug 2017 06:37:48
Again ed. Adequate in a game of football is . adequate. The result was adequate. or we won, or it was enough. I didn't once liken out team to paisley's. They are not at that level yet but you have to admit they were good last night.

{Ed001's Note - yes most of the team were good, but there were a few that were not. Mignolet and Lovren stand out as players that were not good enough or adequate or sufficient. And give it up with the word, you are labouring a point that is simply nonsense and it was boring when you started trying to be clever about it, rather than admitting you are wrong with your choice of words.

Why defend the indefensible and not just admit there are improvements that can be made to that performance and that team? You would have us mired in mediocrity, whereas you should want us to be looking to improve.}


20.) 24 Aug 2017 06:40:01
The result tonight was sufficient. It was sufficient because it was enough to take us through.

{Ed001's Note - it was not 'sufficient'. Again you do not understand English so shut up about it. Sufficient is a 0-0 or 2-2 draw. That is just enough, which is sufficient. A 4-2 win is more than sufficient, as we scored more goals than we needed. So it was more than sufficient. End this now, because I am going to delete any more of this as it is boring.}


21.) 24 Aug 2017 06:46:58
Migs was poor, end of. Nervous with ball at his feet, dropped a corner and again threw out to Mane with two players on him! He breeds nerves!


22.) 24 Aug 2017 07:10:02
*nonsense deleted*

{Ed001's Note - perhaps you failed to understand what I said? This conversation is done. Give it a rest.}


23.) 24 Aug 2017 07:29:20
I'll put it simple.

{Ed001's Note - no I will put it simple - I said it was done, stop wasting my time arguing a simple point that is clearly beyond your understanding. If you write for a living, then try putting sufficient in to describe an 8-0 win and see how quickly your writing is laughed at! You may be a student, you may be educated, but your understanding is limited. Now this is the final word on it, I don't want to block you but you are wasting my time with your arrogant refusal to accept you are wrong.}


24.) 24 Aug 2017 07:42:19
Anyone that thinks Mignolet, Lovren, Moreno are good enough for Liverpool is seriously deluded!

We need much more quality and I don't know who is to blame for it. klopp? FSG? Transfer window has been a joke.

{Ed001's Note - it has hardly been a joke. Robertson, Salah and Solanke have improved the team and squad.}


25.) 24 Aug 2017 07:48:22
I agree with Ed. Mig made me feel like last few seasons when every time the team attack you think they're going to score. If it wasn't for Gnabry fluffing his lines we would have conceded many more. He does not inspire confidence and I think the CB look nervous as a result. A more clinical side would have exposed our weaknesses and if we don't want to embarrass ourselves in the CL we had better give Ward (or Karius) a go. Having said that I wouldn't throw them in until we have bought the new CB because that will just put more pressure on them and sent their confidence. Hopefully it will be sorted in a week or so.


26.) 24 Aug 2017 07:49:06
For me the issue with Migs wasnt so much his handling - it was his lack of confidence in the box. Last night he was too tentative for me in terms of coming for the ball. He was dithering. Towards end of last year he was much more ruthless about it, he needs to make his decisions much earlier and then if he does decide to go for it, then look like he is willing to coathanger someone if they are in the way. Defenders want to know that their goalie is going to make early decisive calls - not last minute ones. There were a couple of times when he did call for it but it was so late his defenders ignored him. This is when confusion can set in. And if a goalie is truly scary then most forwards will back out of it which in turn will make his job easier. Mind you, this doesn't excuse the fact that our CBs need to be more decisive as well.


27.) 24 Aug 2017 07:57:20
Ed001 maybe you could have a chat to his missus and suggest no sex for 3 days before a match. Whatever it takes for Migs to get his angry pills on.


28.) 24 Aug 2017 08:22:12
Lost 0.


29.) 24 Aug 2017 08:26:19
I found eds responses in this thread to be sufficient.


30.) 24 Aug 2017 08:39:58
Well that escalated quickly.


31.) 24 Aug 2017 08:51:55
omg I can't believe I just wasted so much time reading that pointless and booooooooring argument. My hangover is now sufficiently worse. Thanks a bunch, Superred. The game was a lot of fun, but it's been obvious for ages that our defense needs a few upgrades.


32.) 24 Aug 2017 09:01:36
Ed1. Always glad to read your views, as a fan of the club. Do you think Ward has been kept back with a view to getting him first team football? What are your thoughts on Ward, and if not him do you (or the club, while we're on the subject) have a view on who we could or should be looking at?

Ta in advance.



Rob.

{Ed001's Note - that was what Ward was told, so I would hope he will get a shot soon. I think he showed he was good enough last season to deserve a chance. I am disappointed to see him outside the squad to be honest.}


33.) 24 Aug 2017 09:07:55
I was just trying to make the point that that great teams do not have average goalkeepers, and Mignolet has reverted to being an average keeper, in spite of his improvement in the second half of last season. Without that improvement I would have been calling for a replacement throughout the summer.


34.) 24 Aug 2017 09:37:10
The only keeper we should target is Jack Butland, going to cost a fortune but outside the top 3 he is and will be a top top keeper and could have a good 10 years plus in him for us.


35.) 24 Aug 2017 09:38:14
I think Ward could potentially be that improvement. Haven't seen enough of Karius to know if he could be. But will do no harm to rotate them a bit and see who comes out on top.


36.) 24 Aug 2017 09:39:42
I'm not migs biggest fan and have wanted him replaced for a while and although he did start to produce better performances at the bed of last year that really doesn't make a huge amount of difference in my eyes in terms of his long term position as out number 1. That being said I do find it slightly hard on the lad to criticise his performance last night. yeah he dropped on ridiculous cross that could of led to worse but never bit in regards to the goals I'd have to put the blame on our back 4 and again they were shocking at defending again last night, the young lad TAA will undoubtedly be a great player for us but he has a lot to learn in his positional play as he was caught out quite a few times with a switch of play and this isn't me having a go at him . it's the others Matip lovren and moreno the latter has improved but him being caught out of position again for the goal I could go on about this lads problems but there is no need then Matip and lovren it's like they have never met each other, no communication no leadership the list goes on. Our back 4 will cost us more goals through individual errors than migs will and I'm praying to god we manage to get someone of the ilk of VVD or thè likes who can boss and organise our back line as I don't think we our to far away from being a real force again.


37.) 24 Aug 2017 09:49:03
Currently have 3 first team keepers under age of 30 and over 23 in the squad. If we can't find a good keeper from the 3 and the competition between them then there needs to be a drastic change. Questions I'd have over Butland are injury record recently not good and as with Pickford he is potential seen through weaker sides. How he copes with a top 4 side is still another thing.


38.) 24 Aug 2017 10:02:34
Ed1 is on a rageerrrr haha jokes, spot on with everything though.

Superred you are confusing sufficient with significant.
4-2 wasn’t "enough to take us through". It was more than enough and a significant statement from the team of "we won’t hold back to defend a lead and will look to continue to score for 90+ minutes"
There is no such thing as 'putting the game to bed' with the way we play in a sense because we know we will always concede goals.

Anyway moving away from that - Migs is reminding me of the fantasticlu brilliant Welsh Xavi! I never rated him except for a few performances along with many fans, yet for some reason the manager seemed to be in love with him and start him every bloody game for reasons unbeknown to everybody else.


39.) 24 Aug 2017 09:55:30
I feel dirty and ashamed but I am now prepared to admit that I put Karius in my dream team in a deluded hope that he would start the season and be a revelation.

Can I also just say "sufficient", as I feel that it hasn't been said enough in this thread.


40.) 24 Aug 2017 10:21:22
It's great to have a fantastic attack.

But it does not make up for a dodgy defence. Once you let in a soft goal, the whole team gets nervy. Then you let in another - and after that it may not matter how many you score. See Bournemouth last season for reference.

LFC is playing Russian roulette fielding some of the players that we did at the back yesterday. Luckily we played a team that was overawed by the occasion. That won't be the case in the group stages.


41.) 24 Aug 2017 10:26:03
Migs is not good enough. End of. He is a nice bloke, but needs to be gone.
Shot stopping should be a given if you are a keeper.
Command, distribution and communication is what set top keepers apart. Migs has none of them attributes.


42.) 24 Aug 2017 11:23:42
There has been a sufficient amount said about migs. Let's just leave it there.


43.) 24 Aug 2017 13:04:22
Migs has indeed reverted back to his pathetic indecisiveness after showing improvement last season to wards the end there. He prolly is becoming too comfortable, thinking that the job is now his. I always said that Karius should have been given a chance, a true go at the job BUT the so called "LFC supporters" aided and abetted a pathetic manc pundit (along with blithering scouser named Carra) to bully him for making two mistakes (while they waved away the numerous ones Migs had made in the past) instead of supporting him in his time of despair. They turned on him and Migs got the job. Karius should have been given a true go as the boy is clearly talented and better than Migs in several depts. already and preseason showed that. Well, I hope such people are happy now. I say, sell Migs next summer and go with Ward and Karius.


44.) 24 Aug 2017 13:05:18
I said on here when he was at Aberdeen on loan ward was our best goalie. Mugs may pull off more spectacular saves (? ) But as an all round package ward deserves the chance now. He should now be Wales number one and klopp is damaging his career, give him a shot at it or at least get him a top loan.


45.) 24 Aug 2017 13:05:51
What about Kasper? Could we get him in? I guess he is going to want to follow in his dads footsteps and go to United, but I reckon he could be good for us.


46.) 24 Aug 2017 13:05:51
Superred, do you think the coaching staff at any football club say, well we won, it was sufficient, so let's not bother reviewing the game, looking where we need to improve the team. Absolutely not, people strive for greatness and part of that process is understanding what parts need improving, regardless if the whole result is 'sufficient' enough. SAF won a final once and ripped into his players, all fans on this page are doing is analysing the game, including the bad parts. I suggest you try that, doesn't mean they aren't happy with the win, or happy with some great performances, there's just wise enough to notice where we need to improve.


47.) 24 Aug 2017 14:19:12
I feel bad for ward 😣😣😣🙁🙁🙁he must feel really frustrated. atleast rotate and see how karius does dammit. this guys not good enough to be number one. number1 should always give his all. and if i meet lovren this week im kicking his arse. he was so shit. edd can you give your opinion on match?


48.) 24 Aug 2017 14:45:29
Getting back to the Leon Goretzka rumour. Somoneone put 2+2 together for 5 when they saw an instagram image of him watching our game last night whilst on his patio. I cannot see any other reason for this rumour.


49.) 24 Aug 2017 15:06:05
I've always thought (and still do) think Klopp is good at picking players and developing them. I've always liked the way he can sign a player that others aren't keen on and make them better. That is why the Mignolet situation baffles me. If he has more faith in Migs than Karius and Ward then he must think they're shocking. Ward imo should be given a chance.


50.) 24 Aug 2017 15:22:43
My missus would be an ideal goalie for our great club. she likes to be heard, she's good with her hands, and very commanding with anything in her box. Move over migs.


51.) 24 Aug 2017 15:34:25
This goalkeeping issue needs sorting, as still don't understand why Ward is not either out on loan again or at least making the match day squad and tbh, I'd be happy him starting, especially with Migs dip in form this season. Right now, both our 'reserve' keepers must be being frustrated, unless their displays in training are worse than Migs is performing on the pitch!


52.) 24 Aug 2017 15:23:52
It's clear that Migs doesn't have the mentality to sustain his best form for a long period of time. This always happens though, every time he wins back a starting spot, he plays well for a period of time but eventually falls back into his usual self. I want to see Karius, or even Ward given a go in the cup games.


53.) 24 Aug 2017 16:50:52
Getting back on track. I believe Karius needs a decent chance. He was bought in to be our number 1 and got slated too easily. He wasn't great at first but it takes a while for foreign players (especially gks) to settle in. Karius looks unbeatable in training.

I like Ward also but still don't think he is at cl level. GK was an area I hoped we would strengthen this summer but additional players seems very unlikely now. A guy posted last week that on the Thursday after hoffenhiem we would be announcing new players, nearly passed out when I saw photo shopped picture of kieta and no8 shirt.


54.) 24 Aug 2017 18:23:50
Made up with the win last night, and excited to have more great atmospheres to look forward to too this season.
Lots to be positive about, with a good CL group, the fact that sallah has settled so well (Chelsea must be going nuts) and the owners demonstrating that they're not just in it for the money by keeping pipco.
I think we're definitely in need of a better 'keeper than mings with our aspirations, and a new centre half to go with matip. Ihink Can was brilliant last night so I'm less concerned about missing out on keita.
I hope ward gets a chance soon.


55.) 24 Aug 2017 18:33:49
By the time this gets posted I think this thread may have been archived.

Ed1,ta for response. Always pleased to have your unique input, especially as a fellow red.

Go you think perhaps the manager is giving Migs and Karius an opportunity to prove themselves (which seems fair as senior players) and at the same time possibly making Ward feel he has to keep working on last season's good work, rather than walking into the squad? Seems a bit school boyish, but I would be happy with that take by Klopp.

On another note, is there someone that goes down the site just issuing a thmbs down at random? It was a simple enough question?

{Ed001's Note - possibly. I think he has just painted himself into a corner though.}


56.) 24 Aug 2017 23:43:15
On second thoughts maybe that's not a helpful discussion to have on here.


57.) 24 Aug 2017 23:42:14
Is it just me, Ed1, or do I glean that you do not hold Klopp in the same regard as you did before he was appointed LFC manager?

{Ed001's Note - I still think he is the right man for the job, but he is just a human being and will not get everything right. I just want to see him learn from his mistakes.}


58.) 25 Aug 2017 04:57:22
In my opinion Ward seems to have the mentality to be really good. I'd really like to see him get given a shot in the EPL.


 

 

 

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22 Jul 2018 18:04:23
Ed 001 your allowed max 1 player from each team in prem to replace someone in the starting 11 (Allisson, taa, Lovren, dijk, robbo, fab, Keita, hendo, mane, salah, firmino) as many as you want! I genuinly think i would only take alderweireld to replace Lovren and KDB to replace hendo. Would love to know your picks! I'm going to guess you will change the two cb's and left back.

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{Ed001's Note - replace them with who though? KDB would be a possibility, but he would in Keita's way, as the two play similar roles, so not sure I would change Hendo for him. I would have to bring Kante in because he is the best player in the world right now, so it would be him for Hendo. There are no good left backs to swap Robbo for. I would have to agree on Alderweireld. TAA is still young and learning, but who the hell is there to replace him with? Kyle Walker doesn't offer the quality of delivery, so I would stick with him.}


1.) 23 Jul 2018 05:47:42
Kante walks into any team in the world, so I would ditch one of Hendo or Fabinho for him. Maybe KDB or Silva to partner Keita and Kante in midfield. And one of Alderweireld or Vertonghen to partner VVD.


2.) 23 Jul 2018 07:36:06
Yes you would think there would be a whole host of fullback or wingbacks with the way the modern game has turned and there are really very few top drawer ones. It's a bit weird really. Look at Sessegnon; rose through the ranks at left back. As soon as he hits the first team, moves up to an attacking position and before long will probably be furthest man forward, on the opposite side, cutting in like Salah. Do they just pluck the best talent and move them elsewhere on the pitch as fullbacks are deemed unimportant or is it a position that, as Carra said, is just full of failed centre backs and wingers?


3.) 23 Jul 2018 08:39:32
Either Alderweireld for Lovren, or KDB for Henderson.


4.) 23 Jul 2018 08:52:30
Hazard for Mane perhaps? Love Mane to bits but Hazard might just be an upgrade.


5.) 23 Jul 2018 09:00:59
Sane for mane a no brainier for me, KDB gets in any team in the world so you’d have him and kante for Hendo/ Fabinho. Rate Trent very highly, at this stage he’s probably a bit behind Trippier but I’d stick with Trent with more improvement to come. Then there’s probably at least half a dozen CBs I’d take over Lovren- a fully fit alderweireld would be high up that list. Robbo already the best left back in the league for me. De gea at this stage is obviously more proven in the prem so could argue you’d take him over Allison at this point (although from what Iv seen of Allison he looks to be on a very similar level to de gea)


6.) 23 Jul 2018 11:22:26
I'll take Ed's position over anyone else's. I would not take Sane over Mane cos Mane can do a lot more right now than what Sane (brilliant player) offers. Mane can play all the positions in attack and drop deep and play the no. 10. Sane cannot do ANY of that.

Walker is poor and has no defensive nous and has poor delivery. TAA is what Walker wishes he was in this dept. so TAA all the way. Kante is a no brainer. and Alderweireld just shades it over Lovren currently.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 00:11:41
The top 6 (us, city, arsenal, United, Chelsea and spurs) would love to know ed 001 how you rate the teams in order? Looking at our team I feel like we're closest now to city with us getting in a top keeper.

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - it depends on how Keita, Fabinho and Becker settle in and who else gets bought by who and who gets sold by who. There will be a lot of changes yet to come this summer.}


 

 

19 Jul 2018 15:09:24
Ed 001 what is it about Allisson that makes him so brilliant? Will we be seeing a player profile on him soon? On the compilation videos of his best saves he parrys the ball quite a lot into dangerous areas teams are always getting the rebounds does this not worry you? He does make spectacular saves though! Can't wait to see him for us. Very exciting times ahead.

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - reflexes are lightning and he is excellent with his feet.}


1.) 19 Jul 2018 15:34:35
What do you think of his sweeping ed? I think it's terrific personally and that will suit our style down to the ground.

{Ed001's Note - that is exactly what makes him so good. He is exceptional in that regard.}


2.) 19 Jul 2018 15:39:34
If he parries a shot into the danger area that a lesser keeper wouldn't even get to, that's got to be a good thing. I'd rather give the defenders a chance to clear it than definitely concede. Not saying that'll be the case with ALL the youtube saves you may have seen (lets face it, we've ALL youtubed him), but I would suggest that some of his parries save certain goals, so i'll take that.

He's most definitely the best goalkeeper we could have signed for our style of play. Not saying he's the greatest in the world, but of the handful better than him, some would never sign (De Gea, Courtois), and some play in a completely different style of team to us (Oblak) .


3.) 19 Jul 2018 15:42:06
From what you have see do you think he is good commanding his box and dealing with crosses? Secondly do you think language barrier will be much of a problem as a goalie?

{Ed001's Note - organising he is good at, he will sweep up well, but crosses are a weakness. But that is pretty much the same with every keeper in the game right now. Language is little problem, basic shouts can be learnt in a few days.}


4.) 19 Jul 2018 16:32:46
Thank you. I do feel reassured. And if Karius stays raising the bar will only make him a better keeper too.


5.) 19 Jul 2018 16:49:12
I think Alissons confidence is also a major plus. You can see the guy was meant to be a goalkeeper.

Reckon he will be the signing of the whole EPL season.


6.) 19 Jul 2018 17:19:54
What about less basic shouts? Like Lovren volley it into Milners head? Will Milner know to turn and divert it back to him?


7.) 19 Jul 2018 18:01:27
@Firmane. that comment was hilarious. Comedy gold.


8.) 19 Jul 2018 18:01:37
People are saying he isn’t great at crosses but who is? De Gea who we all laud doesn’t come to claim anything.


 

 

16 Jul 2018 21:34:11
Ed 001 what did you make of Lovrens comments making out he's the best defender in the world? He's not even the best defender at the club.

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - he didn't say that at all. I wish people would actually stop believing everything they read and actually listen to his comment.}


1.) 16 Jul 2018 21:49:43
The article I read quoted him as saying ""I think people should recognise that I'm one of the best defenders in the world and not just talk nonsense I will say. "

Perhaps something was lost in translation Ed001? Or classic journos are fudging it for views?

{Ed001's Note - journos talking crap mate, that was what he said exactly but why would they let the truth get in the way of the chance to dig at a favoured target?}


2.) 16 Jul 2018 21:55:20
Well said Ed001. Been annoying me last few days, pundits, social media accounts twisting what was said to suit their agenda. Rather than give the guy abit of credit considering how much he has turned it around since that Spurs game. He should be given so much credit.


3.) 16 Jul 2018 22:11:54
He must be “one of” the best defenders in the world seeing as he’s playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world and one of the best international teams in the world.

I’d say he’s in the top 50 which makes him “one of” the best defenders in the world.

How many great defenders are there around at the moment?


4.) 16 Jul 2018 22:13:03
And does it really matter anyways? Some of the world's most hopeless defenders have given our vaunted attack fits.


5.) 16 Jul 2018 22:33:58
As it was he had a good World Cup and can be proud of his efforts. Journalists twist words all the time.


6.) 16 Jul 2018 22:54:18
Did any journalist actually misquote Lovren or is it simply the OP misquoting Lovren?


7.) 16 Jul 2018 23:16:33
Lovren is a passionate defender.


8.) 16 Jul 2018 22:53:08
Ed01 what's your opinion on lovren as a defender?

{Ed001's Note - he is an excellent defender who struggled with concentration while going through a bad personal time. He is showing that now he has a decent defensive partner alongside him.}


9.) 17 Jul 2018 01:43:56
I think lovrens words have been twisted to make it sound like he is boasting. But really he wassaying it in the context of being on the end of over the top criticism and abuse. Good on him.


10.) 17 Jul 2018 09:46:25
If lovren continues the form he has shown in the last few months for another year I think he truly will be considered one of the very best in the world.


 

 

08 Jul 2018 21:05:01
There's players I would obviously love but is it bad that I'm actually not that fussed who we sign because I trust klopp so much? For example if we sign shaqiri not that I want him but if we did I'm confident klopp can make him a player so wouldn't be against it. Klopp makes very average players brilliant and work for each other! I'm loving this rollercoaster under him.

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15 Jul 2017 15:49:46
Ed 001 is there someone's opinion who you trust that has seen him play?

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13 Mar 2017 19:00:16
Could you explain further what you mean by that? How has he been fake?

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{Ed001's Note - he pretends to be one of the fans and love the club, then dumps on it behind the scenes.}


 

 

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11 Mar 2017 19:26:05
Ok no worries, Where do you rate our best starting 11 on paper by individual ability compared to others in the league? City look so strong I think on paper and will only get better in the summer which is worrying.

Volvic orange

{Ed001's Note - City look strong because they have spent a lot of money but they still can't defend. They can be got at, if the opposition is brave enough. Their is not one player in the back four, nor a quality keeper, in that squad. They also are weak in midfield, Yaya only bothers when he feels like it, De Bruyne, Sterling and Sane are very hit and miss.
As for us, we are up there, in terms of ability, the front three are among the best in the league and Lallana has plentiful ability too. It is not ability that matters over a long term basis as much as the desire, drive and hunger to perform. At the top end, there is very little to choose between any players in terms of ability, often there are players with just as much ability in the lower leagues too. The difference is how hard they work off the pitch, the will to win, no matter what is a huge factor in success.}