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31 Jan 2018 18:57:34
Wilson to Hull!

Good move for him as he is miles ahead of U23’s. Can show what he’s made of in a tough league!

All the best to the future of wales!

The Southern Red

1.) 31 Jan 2018 19:11:58
Forget Wales.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 19:21:00
Good to see players like Ejaria, Wilson, Ojo getting good levels of professional football experience. Not all will make it but this is a big step forward to testing them out at a very competitive level.

3.) 31 Jan 2018 20:51:24
Oi Davey bootle watch it lad forget Bootle you mean.

{Ed001's Note - woah there! You can never forget the great Bootle!! It is where legends are made....}

4.) 31 Jan 2018 23:03:22
He has also signed a new long term contract.



21 Jul 2017 18:10:09
i know right at the start we had lots of youngsters officially sign, which i am assuming because they had pre-contracts organised!

Are there any players we are looking at to go into the U18's and U23's at the moment?

i appreciate this would be harder to source!

The Southern Red

1.) 21 Jul 2017 18:25:09
Well we have a ban in England atm. Not sure on forgien players.

2.) 21 Jul 2017 19:19:02
Only for junior players though.

3.) 21 Jul 2017 20:23:45
What age group would that be Cobra? I had wondered if it was all development squads up to 21s or 16?



01 Jul 2017 10:49:31
Hi Ed's,

Just a quick question with the goalkeeping situation, do you think we are keeping ward for pre-season to look at him before making a decision or are we keeping him as 3rd choice the whole season?

If that is that case i am mystified as to why Klopp would ever do that!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Right now Ward has been told he will be third choice for the season which I think is a great pity after he did very well indeed last season - and the first half of the season before in Scotland. I am sure he would love the opportunity to play for Liverpool but third choice goalkeepers are generally those at the tail end of their career and who help out with the kids and the like - such as Manninger last season. I am sure ward will be thinking very hard about his situation.}

1.) 01 Jul 2017 11:12:46
Completely agree, if this happens it will be the second time he has come back from playing regularly and well to just sitting in the stands!

From his perspective if i wasn't allowed out on loan, i would push for a permanent transfer.

{Ed002's Note - Huddersfield wanted to hang on to him but were told no.}

2.) 01 Jul 2017 12:07:42
I can not, for the life of me, understand this decision.

Surely this will have an effect on Danny Ward's development?

He has spent the last year and a half playing regularly, developing his skills and experience, and has progressed from Leagues that were meant to be a gradual increase, in order to prepare him for life in the Premier League. I thought that was the plan.

Now, Huddersfield are in the Premier League. This should be the big test, to see if he is ready for the rigours of the league, but, instead of doing what is so obvious. We are bringing him back to sit in the stands and possibly play a few matches in the U23's!? How does that make any kind of sense!?

Loris Karius could hardly get a game last season, a player Klopp has made a number of promises to, I believe. I can not recall Alex Manniger, the third choice keeper, ever playing a single game for us. In fact, I don't believe he ever did.

So, how does it make any sense to put Danny Ward in this position!? To undo all his hard work, while out on loan. By the time Klopp decides Ward could do with another loan, it is likely that Huddersfield would have already brought in a new Goal Keeper. Meaning another closed avenue for development.

I cannot understand why we don't just use Kamil Grabara, or one of our other young Goalkeepers, to fill in as third choice but also play regularly for the U23's. It would be a great experience for them, to train and, on the rather occasion, play in matches with the first team. If you cannot bring someone older, who has experience and pedigree on his side, then why not turn to the youth?

I really hope we don't end up alienating Ward and losing him in the next Transfer Window because I believe the boy has the potential to be a very good option for us. However, with Mignolet first choice and impressing, Loris Karius being promised all kinds of thing, where does that really leave Ward!?

In all honesty, in order to further his career, I think Ward needs to leave on a permanent transfer. It pains me to say this because I have nothing but respect for the man's abilities and mindset, but perhaps it would be best for all parties if Ward was to be sold.

I don't know how other people feel, but, I believe this might be the best course of action for the young lad.

3.) 01 Jul 2017 12:17:18
Migs starts season drops a clanger puts Karius in Migs gets arse on goes in summer Ward then goes to no2.

4.) 01 Jul 2017 12:23:52
What exactly was Karius promised.

Ward has the same opportunity in training to claim a place. Mignolet was clearly 2nd choice, but look what happened. Klopp and his team are not fools. If Ward impresses he will get a game.

{Ed002's Note - Karious was named the number one public after Klopp explained to Mignolet he would not be starting.}

5.) 01 Jul 2017 13:04:29
And that was the right decision Ed, IMO as Migs at the time had been wretched though out his time here before Karius arrived. Things may not have worked out and the reasons why can be debated BUT Klopp did the right thing as Migs was killing us big time. As for Ward, it boggles the mind why we don't just let him go as clearly, being third choice is just stupid at this time as he is well-thought of outside of LFC and is a Welsh international.

6.) 01 Jul 2017 13:07:16
What klopp did clearly worked though! Migs was outstanding after being given that wake up call!

7.) 01 Jul 2017 13:09:42
Nothing more than a gut feel tells me one of Migs or Karius will leave before the end of the window.

Like I said, just a guy feel.

8.) 01 Jul 2017 13:57:30
"Like I said, just a guy feel. "


9.) 01 Jul 2017 14:14:31
Not sure if this is the right place for a guy feel, Zed.

10.) 01 Jul 2017 14:57:05
Come on lads we are not here to judge.

11.) 01 Jul 2017 16:48:23
Oh dear! What a time for auto correct on 'gut'!


12.) 01 Jul 2017 16:51:33
Think Ward should be given chance in PL with Hudder. instead of being 2nd or 3rd option here.

The exp is invaluable.

Not sure what Klopp is smoking on Goal keeping front.


13.) 01 Jul 2017 17:40:05
I think players like Ward, Ojo, Chirivella, Kent will be allowed to show during the preseason whether they are ready to be part of the first team squad and if they are not, they will be loaned or sold.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to assess them over the preseason before making a decision.

14.) 01 Jul 2017 21:42:50
Ward may prove himself either in training or games. There's rumoured interest in Karius, so even if nothing happen this window perhaps Ward could force his way up the order. Perhaps Klopp sees something in Ward, and knows something we don't about either Migs' or Karius' future. Window's not really even open as yet, so they may be more to this than we've seen.

15.) 02 Jul 2017 12:10:33
Ward is now fringe international as well if he wants to develop he needs to move on. No point having ability sitting in the stands. If LFC don't want to sell then there needs to be an aim to use him and not as a break glass.



25 May 2017 19:48:24
Are these rumours of Rodgers wanting Wilson north of the wall?

i don't think that would be a bad move for him if he was going to get some game time up there!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Celtic asked about a loan and were told no. They could potentially come back and ask for a sale. Right now the youngsters do seem to be out of the equation at Liverpool even though they are well thought of.}

1.) 26 May 2017 00:34:56
Surprised we turned down a loan - a year at Celtic would seem to be perfect step in his development.

{Ed007's Note - Could he handle the step up though? It's a big jump from Liverpool to a team expected to win every game and pick up trophies ;) (giggle)

2.) 26 May 2017 09:05:09
I didn't know liverpool and brendan rodgers were going to take part in Game of thrones, if that is going to be the case, GO WHITEWALKERS!

3.) 26 May 2017 10:27:05
Class answer Ed7 😂😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - I couldn't resist but thanks must go to Zimbo who set it up perfectly lol

4.) 26 May 2017 21:02:56



23 May 2017 22:47:53
Hi Ed's

I know there is a lot of talk of in's now we are all weak at the knees with the possibilty of offering champions league to our targets!

but i would be really interested in hearing a summary of our loaned players this year:

Danny Ward (Huddersfield Town)
Ryan Fulton (Chesterfield)
Ryan Kent (Barnsley)
Allan Rodrigues (Hertha Berlin)
Jon Flanagan (Burnley)
Lloyd Jones (Swindon Town)
Taiwo Awoniyi (NEC Nijmegen)
Andre Wisdom (Red Bull Salzburg)
Lazar Markovic (Hull City)
Pedro Chirivella (Go Ahead Eagles)
Cameron Brannagan (Fleetwood Town)
Jack Dunn (Tranmere Rovers)
Mamadou Sakho (Crystal Palace)
Brooks Lennon (Real Salt Lake)

Not detail (unless you want to haha) of how they did and whether they have a future at the club and what they should do for their own futures.

I know i ask a lot but you are just so good at giving such well rounded views on players I can't not ask.

p. s i flirt with you slightly in the hope this may appease any possible rejection of this request!

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - Ward is probably going to go back out on loan for the season. He did well at Huddersfield and could well go back there for next season, if they get promotion. They would like to make the deal permanent either way, but are not keen on any kind of buy back clause in the contract.
Fulton I am not sure how he got on to be honest but the plan is for another loan.
Kent is an interesting one, looks likely to leave in the summer, he has not done enough to earn a place at Liverpool, though he does show flashes of quality.
Allan has issues getting a work permit. He is very well liked by Klopp, but we can't use him so his future is up in the air. Most likely another loan spell.
Flanagan is likely to be sold.
Jones is another likely to be sold. He has not progressed well.
Awoniyi is in the balance. The right loan offer will see him go back out on loan, but the club like the idea of giving him some time around the first team in training, so he might well stay.
Wisdom is up for sale.
Markovic is available for sale.
Chirivella is likely to go back on loan for the season.
Branagan is available for transfer.
Dunn is also for sale.
Sakho is for sale still.
Lennon I don't know about, I will have to ask. I had completely forgotten about the lad with him being outside of Europe.}

1.) 24 May 2017 06:38:39
Anyone seen much of Allan to say how good he looks? Is he really that impressive?

2.) 24 May 2017 08:31:45

interesting point on Owoniyi, guess he is something we don't really have upfront so would be good to see how it plays in and around the team.

I would like to see kent at least given a chance in the pre-season see how he does as he is only 20 and so has lots of time on his hands!

I feel chirivella will have come on leaps and bonds playing for a the eagles, i would like to see him loaned to another eredevise club again (preferable somewhere higher up the table)

Allan, i am hoping another season at hertha, he will become more of a regular in the team, so even if he doesn't get the chance to play for us he will develop nicely!

3.) 24 May 2017 10:12:28
Such a shame about flanagan. Once dubbed "the successor" by Cafu. Is there definatly no way back for the lad? We crying out for full backs at the mo, will he get another chance or was the injury the end for him at liverpool?

{Ed001's Note - if he had performed well on loan then he would have got another chance.}

4.) 24 May 2017 10:17:39
Yes spose your right ed001, if he can't get in the burnley team not much chance of getting in our side.

5.) 24 May 2017 17:41:33
Awoniyi is one of the players who doesn't have a work permit and doesn't qualify for one at the moment I think. His loan spell in Netherlands has seen him make no progress either.

6.) 25 May 2017 16:00:31
re Flannagan

Part of the issue with him was fitness and it looked like he survived a year of training without significant injury because he seemed to be on the bench every match. But virtually no game time, so we don't know whether he is able now to game after game after game; he wasn't before he left on loan though.

On quality, yes he wasn't able to replace the incumbent right-back but, if that guy was playing well and keeping his fitness, that is a hard thing for a loanee to do.

I hope Klopp takes a long hard look at him before selling before before his injury I always thought he did well going forward.

7.) 25 May 2017 20:00:18
Can't we "do a Grujic" and get Awoniyi a work permit?

{Ed025's Note - its wierd ron, they let terrorists in and jihadi,s who have been fighting our armed forces in syria, yet they wont let a lad coming to work here past the gate, this bloody country is getting worse..

8.) 25 May 2017 22:23:15
😄 I wasn't expecting that.




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08 Mar 2018 09:27:54
I know he wasn’t considered a successful buy, but by the beard of Zeus, was Benteke’s bycicle kick bloody marvellous!

The Southern Red

1.) 08 Mar 2018 11:24:35
Incredible, wasn't it.
Shame that game is remembered for just how bad a coach Brendan Rodgers is, and, a thoroughly ridiculous piece of commentary from Martin Tyler.

2.) 09 Mar 2018 09:51:10
SR, Benteke had all the ability in the world to be great BUT had a stinking attitude ad wanted everything done for him. Now, he's at CP where he is way worse than his Villa days.

As for the game itself, LoweLFC is correct. It's one of those where if BR had been sacked afterwards, it would not have been a problem as we were dreadful from start to finish vs a Utd team coached by the useless LVG who would lull you to sleep with his dross tactics.



20 Feb 2018 17:56:00
Viva las liverpoool!

Kind regards.

The Southern Red



20 Feb 2018 09:49:15
Do we hold any more interest in De Vrij or is this just putting 2+2 = pizza.

The Southern Red



16 Feb 2018 08:29:21
To everyone saying Navas isn’t good enough, do you not see the bigger picture!

This is an ace up Klopps sleeve, if we buy Navas then Madrid by De Gea and man united drop down 4 places on average fighting it out for a Europa league spot with Leicester and arsenal.

Bravo Jurgen bravo ever the master chess player.

The Southern Red

1.) 16 Feb 2018 08:41:06
Lol. Keylor Navas it is then.

2.) 16 Feb 2018 09:08:33
You deserve commission on this deal mate lol.

3.) 16 Feb 2018 09:54:16
Hahaha nice theory.

4.) 16 Feb 2018 12:22:03
This is brilliant haha!

5.) 16 Feb 2018 13:25:44
Maybe they will go for migs?

6.) 16 Feb 2018 19:19:38
Thought they were in for Donnarumma? Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - What Liverpool?}

7.) 16 Feb 2018 21:44:42
Or maybe they demand navas in return for de gea.

8.) 17 Feb 2018 00:36:59
No Madrid in for Donna.

I know, nothing to do with Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - They have other ideas Ron.}



02 Feb 2018 20:52:06
Good to see Masterson, Dhanda, Kane and Jones training with the first team. Glad to see our development sessions are still being done!

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07 Mar 2018 11:35:47
But in some regions you are considered a sauce?

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{Ed002's Note - A couple of bars in Chelsea, yes.}



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07 Mar 2018 10:44:05
Where have you got this info?

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07 Mar 2018 10:43:43
I think every club in the northern hemisphere is keeping tabs on him.

Outstanding talent for someone so young, a lot of respect for him staying as he’s clearly developing nicely.

As much a I would love him at Liverpool I do think he is best staying at Fulham they are playing lovely football at the moment and with a chance of premiership football next year as well.

Remember he legally can’t drink! He should be in no rush.

I would also say people calling for him at LB, he is going to be a winger in the future in my opinion. He is playing more and more forward from last season and taking it with both hands.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - he has said he prefers to play a more attacking role.}



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22 Feb 2018 11:42:57
I think this is the issue with the uk in youth,

You get to 19 and if you aren’t scoring every week everyone claims you won’t make it.

I think the pressure of this doesn’t help the system, you look at European equivalents and some players don’t break through till 22/ 23.

He is still very young in the grand scheme of things and I’m hoping that Klopp is instilling a better image for players to relax and just enjoy their football.

A prime example is Woodburn, came onto the scene out of no where and now he has barely played does that mean he isn’t good enough, no bloody way! He’s 18 just let him keep enjoying it keep working hard and don’t worry about whether you are making the team or not.

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21 Feb 2018 17:00:17
With a number of players reaching a pivotal age in their careers I believe we will see a drive for young potential to replace those.

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16 Mar 2018 18:23:09
The one I really didn’t want was Bayern!

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13 Mar 2018 21:25:56
I expect Mignolet and Ward to leave. I would like someone with experience come in as number 2.

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13 Mar 2018 21:11:37
Grandpa made a bet when he was a baby that he would make his wales debut. more to come!

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01 Mar 2018 13:11:42
Well I for one loved two players.

1. John Arne Riise
2. Harry Kewell.

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20 Feb 2018 00:08:54
I was offering some tongue in cheek irony with a twist of pun!

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