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15 Feb 2019 18:14:01
Confirmed Allan back to Fluminense all the best to the fella, shame it’s not worked out so far!

The Southern Red

1.) 17 Feb 2019 09:39:19
Another victim of our recruitment policy.

2.) 17 Feb 2019 12:27:51
Too right Ron. Plucking a yoyng man from him comfortable home with no plan on how to benefit us, multiple randon loans all over the place givning him no chance to settle and kick on. Really infuriating that we do this, Anyowini (sp? ) and this Anderson Arroyo next.

3.) 17 Feb 2019 14:19:14
It was a work permit issue, I get what you are saying, but you cannot blame it strictly on the recruitment policy.

4.) 17 Feb 2019 15:43:02
They should be well aware of the work permit rules. How about this, if they need a special exemption for a work permit, target someone else? If they are not a player who is going to add something to the first team, why bother spending hundreds of thousands of pounds on them.

5.) 17 Feb 2019 22:02:03
And another one of BR's "mindless splurges" bites the dust.



13 Feb 2019 11:29:15
Rumour has it that allan has moved back to brazil on loan.

The Southern Red

1.) 13 Feb 2019 12:55:26
"Rumour has it" - Lemar back on the cards?

{Ed025's Note - "if theres any justice in the world" he will be zed.. :)

2.) 13 Feb 2019 13:24:51
I heard right about now it's fifty fifty.

3.) 13 Feb 2019 21:33:46
Ed025. Surely if we did buy Lemar we’d have to give him time to grow?

{Ed025's Note - nice one DPG..

4.) 14 Feb 2019 14:01:14
I remember when he made his debut on The Word,
He was up his own backside in those days with his 59s throwback hairstyle 🙄.

5.) 14 Feb 2019 14:59:57
You got the right guy there Ron?

6.) 14 Feb 2019 08:12:56
I've heard he's pretty 'dedicated' Ed. ;) Should sign him up.

{Ed025's Note - good stuff KK..



19 Jan 2019 10:55:03
do you think we will see an increase in loan deals nearer the end of the window for some of our U23's?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

1.) 19 Jan 2019 19:38:14
Any teams looking at Woodburn?

{Ed0333's Note - it’s amazing how far his star has fallen. From knocking on the first team door to being shunned by Sheffield Wednesday. I wonder what will become of the boy.?

2.) 19 Jan 2019 21:07:00
I'd love Woodburn to go to Leeds. Sure, he won't be first choice, but he'll get minutes and in a system that will suit him.

3.) 19 Jan 2019 22:05:33
Yeah what has gone wrong with this kid?

4.) 20 Jan 2019 00:16:50
Tbf Harry Wilson went to Crewe at a similar age and barely made a dent. He has time on his side.

5.) 19 Jan 2019 23:56:53
I have never seen him have a good game for us. Just not up to standard. I think he should be moved on personally. Shame but will likely ply his trade in lower divisions.

6.) 20 Jan 2019 14:44:29
Just not improved and maybe there's issues behind the scenes with his attitude.

{Ed001's Note - he is just a kid who is still growing, far too soon to write him off, no matter how his spell with Sheff Utd is going.}

7.) 20 Jan 2019 23:33:46
Lfcbadboy the lad is just 6 months or so older than say Rashford was when he played his 1st game for Utd, and if I remember rightly that was only because of an injury crisis at Old Trafford. Not saying he's going to be as good as Rashford but some perspective is needed. He was 18 and went on a loan that didn't work out and 6 months has been largely wasted but like a poster said earlier Wilson had a similarly disappointing loan at that age. if he gets a decent loan at a championship team and plays between now and the end of the season i'd imagine he would still be one of the youngest players in what is a very competitive league.

8.) 21 Jan 2019 18:54:47
Is Gerrard not interested?



14 Jan 2019 11:50:10
Do we know if there is anything happening with chirivella this window?

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1.) 14 Jan 2019 18:11:02
Is he still with us? Wasn't he loaned to romania or something?

2.) 14 Jan 2019 19:06:04
He's been playing most of the under 23 matches.

3.) 14 Jan 2019 19:21:57
He is too good for the u23 - great passer, good game management. He looks frustrated but Im not convinced he has a future with us. Ed001 might know better.

{Ed001's Note - he did look like he might have a chance but Fabinho has taken his place I think.}

4.) 14 Jan 2019 21:49:05
a shame i did genuinely think he had a good chance with us to atleast push for a squad player.

5.) 15 Jan 2019 02:38:11
Ed01, that must be the ever-question for academy vs buying aye? I feel as tho a youth has to be over the top good, or at least assessed that way, in order to get a shot.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate and this is why I would like to see something done to force teams to look to their academies.}



09 Jan 2019 17:53:57
So with all these questions being banded around regarding transfers thought i'd try and put together the VERY small summary of what is probably going to happen in Jan.

Please add any input if you want.

Ins: Non (unless we see a major injury to someone important or see more outs than i believe) .
Recalled loans: Awoniyi, Woodburn.

Outs: Non possible loans of youth.

Camacho - Sporting Lisbon (be suprised if he goes without signing a new deal) .
Awoniyi - another loan out as he doesn't have a permit to play for liverpool.
Wooburn - maybe he will stay as part of the squad. Lots of interest from the Championship.

We won't see Lallana or Origi leave this month as it leaves us light up top.

The Southern Red

1.) 10 Jan 2019 08:12:17
From BBC App

Liverpool are set to end Wales winger Ben Woodburn's loan spell at Sheffield United and will consider enquiries from Blackburn Rovers, Brentford and Hull City for the 19-year-old.

2.) 10 Jan 2019 10:14:15
Muscron GM looking to resign Awoniyi after his loan spell has been cut short.




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15 Feb 2019 18:14:45
I know it’s been mentioned that Gerard when he was a youth coach focused on results over development, just wanted to ask what sort of example gave that impression?

The Southern Red

1.) 15 Feb 2019 18:35:27
Think it was a combination of only playing best and oldest players whenevr possible rather than trying to bring through youngsters and I think he was also quite openly bothered by losing his best Under 18 players to the Under 23s.

To be fair, all the youth players seemed to like working with him and they did get some great results but I do get the sense that it was more of a stepping stone in management for him rather than him being excited to be part of the youth setup.

2.) 15 Feb 2019 19:26:17
The constant moaning about his players being picked for the u23s or going on loan becasue his team were no longer good enough to win the title and therefor show him as a good manager. It was all about trying to make him look good so he could climb the ladder which he managed not about him contributing to some of our young players development.

3.) 16 Feb 2019 05:15:19
He had a winning mentality.
A bit like Shearer and his goalscorer mentality. For example in training Shearer used to smash every shot as hard as possible like he did in real games and he used to celebrate every goal in training in the same manner.

Gerrard has that winning mentality and it meant more to him to win than anything else.
I think it’s an admirable trait.

4.) 16 Feb 2019 08:21:35
And something missing in todays snowflake generation, i think stevie, lamps and scholesy will all be top managers in a few years.

{Ed001's Note - not for kids it isn't and that shows a lack of any understanding of youth development. It is nothing to do with this idiotic notion of 'snowflakes' you have. It is to do with the fact that players, of all ages, develop best when they have the freedom to improve. That is why the older generation that were bullied by coaches were doing their improvement in playgrounds, on parks, in the streets, not at youth academies. You are displaying a brutal ignorance in your comment and this kind of thing is why British teams were so damn crap at developing young players.

Whether it be surgeons, footballers or any skill, it is best developed in an environment where there is no blame culture. Once you have the skills, then you can use them under pressure, but you have to have them first as you do not learn them while having Gerrard bullying you to win.

Gerrard might make a top manager, but he won't do it by demanding, Lampard doesn't even work that way and I very much doubt Scholes will either, as he did not come through a youth system that did.}

5.) 16 Feb 2019 10:11:27
Not that I would pretend to know anything about youth development, but I think there needs to be a balance.
They need to develop a competitive streak as well, there are a lot of very skilful footballers who never make it. I think you need that passion and drive to succeed.

I doubt Gerrard will make a great ‘coach’ but he may make a great manager. He has a lot of the traits.

{Ed001's Note - a competitive streak is nothing to do with having pressure to win from the outside Ron. That is about the player themselves wanting to win, to be better than the opponent, not from outside pressures saying 'you must win or else'.}

6.) 16 Feb 2019 23:52:38
Just seen this ed, wasnt expecting that! I certainly wouldn't condone bullying but something has been lost with this generation, not just in football.

I still think they should clean the pros boots and muck in cleaning etc, just to make these kids appreciate what they have and where they are, respect is disapearing fast.

7.) 17 Feb 2019 09:34:56
Ed, do you think Gerrard applies that pressure because of his own desire to win? Do you think he might have the same issue as Roy Keane in terms of he can’t understand why all players do not want to run through walls for the team?

{Ed001's Note - yes that is it exactly. He thinks everyone should be like him and struggles to understand that some just aren't like that and need a different kind of treatment. I am sure he can learn to change though.}



14 Feb 2019 08:51:15
I read recently that now have the second highest wage bill as per the recent published accounts.

Is this the case? I find it suprising we are above city given the salaries they are paying and that these figures are based on prior contract extension of a number of players!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - I thought Liverpool were 4th highest.}

1.) 14 Feb 2019 09:37:17
given that we have players like studger moreno lallana origi migs on massive wages and milner on very high wages too. so that six alone add 600k to the wage bill and only milner is worth it.
still id say united, city and chelsea should be above us in terms of wages.

2.) 14 Feb 2019 10:35:56
I think Milner is worth every penny for what he brings on the field and off the field as a model pro.

3.) 14 Feb 2019 11:25:58
I think that's what akrubbish also mentioning.

4.) 14 Feb 2019 11:35:03
It was a recent this is Anfield article saying we have £263 vs £260 city’s.

5.) 14 Feb 2019 14:08:53
It's not true
We are 4th on wage bill.

6.) 14 Feb 2019 15:02:16
Those ‘published’ wage bills are a misnomer. Liverpool included all players and staff in their figures. Other clubs may not have.

7.) 14 Feb 2019 15:13:20
I do not know much about this but are players wages available to the public? Seems odd that we would be able to find out exactly how much each player earns.

Do you think different club weight how the players earning are paid. For example club A may heavily pay on apperances but club B may weight it more on standard weekly amount?

{Ed002's Note - The contracts vary, but the accounts show the amounts paid. Clubs are required to declare this because of major issues in the past with image rights (n longer an issue in England but it is elsewhere).}

8.) 14 Feb 2019 15:19:16
I don’t claim to be in the know but that is absolute rubbish. United and City will have higher than us for sure, and i would imagine Chelsea would have higher than us also, potentially even Arsenal. The only one i know for definite we are higher than is Spurs.

9.) 14 Feb 2019 17:56:44
I’d say a lot of teams have a higher wage bill than Spurs though. They have a relatively small squad and Spurs top earner earns minimum wage with a packet of space raiders as a goal bonus!

10.) 14 Feb 2019 18:06:04
Sorry Akrubbish bro, name changed due to my spelling correction. Sorry man.

11.) 14 Feb 2019 19:41:57
Ed02, I thought we were 5th really.

12.) 15 Feb 2019 05:24:37
No probs mate happens to me on iphone all the time. I can't sign anything on that damn phone.

{Ed001's Note - it is the swear filter on the site that causes it on here. It can be a real pain.}

13.) 15 Feb 2019 07:02:57
hahaa ed, well i think the site needs the filter. its especially important for days teams don't perform well.

{Ed001's Note - true, but it does need a bit of intelligence to it.}



03 Feb 2019 06:38:26
Congratulations to Liam Millar made his professional debut for Kilmarnock yesterday, hopefully many more to come!

The Southern Red

1.) 03 Feb 2019 08:58:03
I watched the game, he had a golden opportunity with a header to score with his first touch. Seemed to play off the right when he came on, looked lively considering he hadn't trained with the team at all. He'll get plenty of opportunities i think, and killie put a lot of importance on their wide players, think it'll be a good loan for him.



30 Jan 2019 04:42:17
Right best option now is to create so much noise at Anfield tomorrow that those manc's can here us sing!

i can picture it now all of them crying as they here you'll never walk alone boom through the country!

The Southern Red

1.) 30 Jan 2019 10:51:30
Well afraid Werner might sign for city. you know with his noice problems he is perfect for them. no noice and all.

{Ed001's Note - good point, they are the perfect team for him, nice and quiet.}

2.) 30 Jan 2019 11:48:52
Nailed it livebird and ed xaxa.

3.) 30 Jan 2019 12:00:02
Well their fan who lives in Manchester might be able to hear, the other one who lives in London might not though.

4.) 30 Jan 2019 12:00:30
Could he do it on a rainy night in Stoke?



30 Jan 2019 04:41:01
With a number of U23's being 21/ 22 i think we will see a big restructure of players and a lot of the U18's making the step up.

Do you think the likes of Juanmi, Chirivella, Phillips etc. are going to be let go in the summer?

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15 Feb 2019 14:38:14
Matip is fit and the only fit cb currently.

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14 Feb 2019 11:31:45
I believe Kane got a goal and an assist!

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14 Feb 2019 08:52:34
I think, dependant on wage demands, I’d be surprised that we aren’t keeping some interest i the player. Young talented and lots of experience!

Although recent free transfer wages put me off the idea!

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13 Feb 2019 11:23:31
Dybala is being looked at by Madrid, be interesting to see if they go for Hazard instead or even both?

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03 Feb 2019 07:20:22
will or may sign.

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17 Feb 2019 21:19:17
I am hoping we can see adam Lewis Step up as the back up left back as he is well thought of at the club!

I agree on right back but I think we will get someone who can cover cb as well. Trent is obviously first choice but it Clyne will leave so have a space for someone to come in especially given the changes required for cb.

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17 Feb 2019 17:50:05
Simmer down he’s having a top season!

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17 Feb 2019 15:50:39
I think Philips injury was at a really unfortunate time, he had a great pre-season. i was fully expecting him to get a chance at some point if he had kept fit.

I think it maybe a bit more difficult given the length of injury but hopefully can recover well and keep pushing!

i agree both matip and lovren are both too injury prone. I know people have bad things to say about lovren but whilst he is a bit of a fool sometimes you can't question his commitment and slightly admire from what he has grown up from!

ultimately we shouldn't be getting a player to play ahead of gomez, so we can rule out Koullibay.

but someone who can push gomez and lovren would be ideal, someone who is a bit versatile and can cover other roles! .

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15 Feb 2019 15:39:24
I think the plan is for him to be loaned out to a champions league team!

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15 Feb 2019 11:14:35
I Think the big shrft we have seen is both an improvement in progressive loans where they are thinking further ahead than just 3 months as well as a liason officer who helps keep them focused and reports back to Liverpool.

I know we have recently introduced penalties which has both positive and negatives benefits but overall probably meaning teams are only wanting loanees if they aren’t going to impact the team.

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