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20 Apr 2018 13:41:57
Good morning eds an reds
Hope you are all enjoying the sunshine.

Just read that Klopp has personally phoned Ceballos and convinced him to join us over the 2 Milan sides and Juventus, who have now directed interest elsewhere because he is convinced by a move to us.

Hope we have permission and won't be accused of tapping him up ;_;

Although i'm assuming this is just paper talk as usual probably to spur a push from any other interested sides?

Anyway hope you all get off work early to enjoy the rest of the weather - tis meant to be miserable again from Sunday xD.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 20 Apr 2018 13:56:33
Is that not tapping up?


2.) 20 Apr 2018 14:21:04
I Real do not see a future for him, and have approved other clubs taking contact I belive we would be home safe. Unfurtunatly I think history has it, that when ever Real has a player on their hands they don't rate good enough, as soon as clubs starting to make contact, he is all of a sudden starter material, og gets a £200 mill release clause. I recall we've been through thos hisyory with both Isco and Asensio. Youth player, to rubbish to Real and they want rid, Liverpool plus others enter the scene, but then he's the next big thing!

{Ed001's Note - they never wanted rid of either Isco nor Asensio.}


3.) 20 Apr 2018 14:30:24
That is news papers putting 1+1 = cabelllos lives in Klopps spare room.


4.) 20 Apr 2018 15:49:59
Ed 1 is Dani Ceballos still being looked at? There’s been that many links lately neves lemar Jorginho just to name a few do we hold any real interest in these players?

{Ed001's Note - Ceballos yes.}


5.) 20 Apr 2018 16:29:55
What is Klopp going to have to do for some of you lot to fully trust him? I’m so sick of fans ragging players before they even put on the kit. How many of you thought Ox and Robbo would have the season they had? Or Salah? Maybe, just maybe, our manager has a pretty good idea of what he’s doing, and you should trust him to bring in the right players. Remember, you’re a “supporter. ” Your job is to support.


6.) 20 Apr 2018 16:48:36
Klopp always gets the best out of his players.
Ceballos could turn out to be a worldy under Klopp.


7.) 20 Apr 2018 17:04:51
Just been reading through a few rags online. Yes I no they are all full of sh#t but was bored so had a read and the Mirrow had a piece saying that a deal/ agreement is nearly reached. Not saying its credible at all but that's what it said.


8.) 20 Apr 2018 21:25:40
And the Mirror would have access to his information?
Of course not. Slow news day, make something up. got to sell papers and generate clicks somehow.


9.) 20 Apr 2018 22:36:26
Is cabellos a box to box midfielder in the say Henderson mold or more attacking, can't help feeling we actually need defence minded midfielders.


10.) 21 Apr 2018 07:18:43
I like ceballos. Another hungry and promising player to compete wwith that group. Said elsewhere, we're unlikely to have 6 starting quality midfielders so ya need to fill the squad with guys like this. He has potential to be great and a club like ours could bring it out of him. Also think we need to trust klopp and the team a bit more.


11.) 21 Apr 2018 11:09:11
negativeredwalter - that’s why I said I hope we have permission instead of tapping up haha reports are saying he has been told he can leave after somebody put a bid in (apparently us, but the eds haven't said so and I believe them more)

Yankee Red - nobody in this post has said anything bad about him? That came out of nowhere or was it meant for another post?
Unless you didn’t see the typo from smeg when he said "I* Real do not see a future for him" instead of If*?

I think he has a very bright future and will excel under Klopp if we do get him like.

Hailstones - he can play a few roles, can play deep but he is not a proper DM similar to Keita, but also similar to Coutinho in a more advanced role, sometimes on the left, but mostly in the center.


 

 

05 Feb 2018 11:38:11
I saw City being linked with Can now. I know he can’t sign a pre contract with them but let’s say he runs his contract down without signing for anybody. On the first day he is 'contractless', could an English side then sign him up or is there a cool off period?

OGRed_Phil

1.) 05 Feb 2018 12:03:19
He wouldn't get near their team and if he did I'd happily have him play against us. On his day he can be tremendous but he switches off to often in the game and yesterday he was our poorest player and looked dead on his feet.


2.) 05 Feb 2018 12:07:30
1. this is not a new link

2. of course he could sign for them on a free, there is no cooling off period - milner being a case in point

3. who cares? your message implies this would somehow be wrong of him?


3.) 05 Feb 2018 16:10:57
As soon as he has no contract with us, he can sign for any club in the world not currently banned from signing players.


4.) 05 Feb 2018 17:17:00
Hope not. He can trap it further than I can kick it. Still it will give the physios something to do now that Sturridge has gone.


5.) 05 Feb 2018 22:15:42
Who cares?

I’d rather be facing Can and Delph than Silva and De Bryune 😄.


 

 

30 Jan 2018 11:17:14
I saw a report saying Real Madrid might be in a bit of financial trouble because of their stadium name sponsor (or something) falling through and they will need to sell players to recoup some of the €400mil, so surely they won’t be able to afford Salah? here’s to hoping anyway 😅.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 30 Jan 2018 11:20:03
They'll get bailed out by the Spanish government (again) .


2.) 30 Jan 2018 11:35:50
Rumour has it that in the attacking positions they want hazard, Kane and Salah.
Spurs will probably demand a very high fee for Kane (if they let him go), and likewise Chelsea for Hazard, and we know Salahs value is going to increase hugely if he continues to play the way he has been.
The ageing (and fading) Ronaldo will ask for very large wages from any interested clubs, and the permanently injured Bale's fee will probably be in the region of £100m plus, all of which makes it difficult to envisage there being lots of takers for either player.

So you can't help but wonder how Real are going to finance a complete new forward line of world class superstars that might cost a combined £500 million.
I do wonder if even Real will have the resources to pay for all three of the stars they are rumoured to be going after this summer.
Player sales maybe?


3.) 30 Jan 2018 11:50:19
Real Madrid is the largest footballing brand in the world, they have not spent a lot of money in previous windows.

Expect them to have the cash reserves to do as they wish.

{Ed001's Note - they don't have large cash reserves, but they are able to draw on large amounts of credit to use for transfers.}


4.) 30 Jan 2018 12:15:47
Yes Ed don't they in a very leaned wording take what their future earning are and loan against those, they have done this previously with "galactico" signings haven't they.

Guess the tree has been taken down now ed?

{Ed001's Note - all clubs do that mate, transfers are never paid with from cash in the bank, except in very rare circumstances, such as a team that has had financial difficulties. One of the best sources I used to have many years ago was a 'friend' who used to be one of the decision makers on these loans for a private financial institution. She opened my eyes to a lot of the financial side of the game, and how so many businesses operate on an overdraft. I have only had an overdraft once, when the bank made an error and sent me a letter, which they charged me £7 for to tell me that I was £6.33 overdrawn due to this letter that they were sending me to tell me that I was now overdrawn. Which was confusing. What was even more confusing was that over the next few days I received about 50 more of the same letters, with a £7+interest increase in the overdraft I had due to the fact that they had sent me a letter and charged me for it. The best bit was that the bank were very 'good' about it, they told me they would not charge me interest on the overdraft but I still had to pay for the letters! I think you can imagine my reply and I immediately went across the road and opened an account with a different bank. Two days later the two banks only went and announced a merger! Sorry got sidetracked then.

Basically most businesses in Europe, whether football clubs or otherwise, tend to operate off an overdraft. Arsenal are a very obvious exception. When they need funding for something big, like a player, they see certain financial institutions for short term loans against future income, which is what she dealt with. I remember when Spurs, who were one of her clients, were hawking round Europe trying to find a striker, and she could tell me exactly how much they were willing to spend as she was the one providing the funds!

The tree got ripped down straight after we lost to Swansea. I was in need of something else to tear down after the WBA result!}


5.) 30 Jan 2018 12:17:31
Do they end up actually paying this line of credit back Ed? Seems they’ve been drawing on it for years!

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, they do, it is Barca that has built up significant and overwhelming debt burdens. However the banks are afraid to force them to repay as they would then find half of Spain would take their money out!}


6.) 30 Jan 2018 12:26:10
The report was suggesting that they would not be abandoning their transfer targets, but would need to sell to buy, now that the naming has fallen through.

The names they mentioned were Ronaldo, Bale and Isco as likely departures. I guess you can add Benzema and James Rodríguez to that. Pretty impossible to price all 5 due to each of them having some negatives due to age, wages, lack of playing time and injuries.

But Real Madrid tend to get what they want so I can see it happening. Biggest question is who can afford Fee and Wages of any of those names, certainly a big investment for any club.

So unless there is a serious change over the next 5 months losing Salah will be a serious threat. This would not just be a money move now, it would be an opportunity to be part of a new project at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Easy sell for his agent and the buying club.


7.) 30 Jan 2018 12:44:13
Was this lady "friend" a very special friend, Ed001? Was this lady "friend" our very own Ed002 or one of his many many wives?


8.) 30 Jan 2018 12:47:05
Cheers Bud as always a good insight.

Bank are great aren't they I work in finance buddy so I know the pains!


9.) 30 Jan 2018 12:58:45
Just a “friend” eh Ed? 😜.

{Ed001's Note - well yes, until she got married. Her hubby objected to her having other 'friends' after that. Miserable bugger.}


10.) 30 Jan 2018 12:52:05
I was under the impression that Madrid were after Hazard and Neymar for the wide positions and that it was Salah who asked his agent to contact Madrid, not the other way round.

Don't get me wrong, I think Madrid would be interested in Salah if they cannot get their first choice players, but I don't think he is top of their list.

Feel free to correct me if i'm wrong Eds (it's happened plenty of times before)

{Ed001's Note - that sounds pretty close to me mate.}


11.) 30 Jan 2018 13:09:31
Hazard, Kane and Salah? They won’t get all 3, probably only one, and guess which one they will get.

{Ed001's Note - Kane?}


12.) 30 Jan 2018 14:30:02
cant see them getting Hazard or Kane . and if we got a very high price for Salah, it would be very tempting for the club .


13.) 30 Jan 2018 14:38:52
It would be more tempting to me to watch them with Salah playing.


14.) 30 Jan 2018 16:50:27
Don’t Madrid own loads of land that they sell off to finance transfers? Or has that all gone now?

{Ed001's Note - they sold the training ground, massively overpriced, in a one off deal that also saw the govt give them a brand new better training ground too.}


15.) 30 Jan 2018 17:28:38
they are 'royal' madrid for a reason.


16.) 30 Jan 2018 18:33:18
You got stuffed Ed01.

when the banks were charging for "letters" a guy I know argued the toss with them that legally their time (to write the letter) was no more valuable than his and he in turn was charging them to reply to each letter. in the end he just had to pay the overdraft not the charges.


17.) 30 Jan 2018 18:42:53
Ed002 told me transfers were paid by cheque 🤨.


 

 

15 Jan 2018 17:21:19
Just saw a report pop up weirdly late, saying we have agreed personal terms with Gilson Martins (spelling) giving him 80k a week but haven't agreed a fee with his club Who want us to pay his release clause of €60mil (£53mil) but we are only willing to pay half of that .

How can we agree personal terms with the player without agreeing to a fee with the club? that doesn't make sense to me we shouldn't have permission until they accept a fee should we? xD.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 15 Jan 2018 17:56:25
It's perfectly normal if it's all made up nonsense.


2.) 15 Jan 2018 18:40:20
Og red if the selling club gives permission then the buying club can talk to the player. it happens quite a lot nowadays sometimes club reaches agreement with the player but then can't reach agreement on price with club.

{Ed002's Note - Sporting has certainly not given permission.}


3.) 15 Jan 2018 18:48:38
Ed002 I was by no way insinuating they had, just saying that permission is granted sometimes before a deal has been struck between clubs.


4.) 15 Jan 2018 19:14:30
Don't worry ed2. That's never stopped us before.


5.) 15 Jan 2018 19:17:57
Well, Sporting will get a massive pay day letting Martins leave and must be what they are aiming for.

{Ed002's Note - They are not looking to sell right now.}


 

 

04 Jan 2018 16:00:18
Have not seen this posted and did search, when I got home from work I saw the worst rumour ever.

Apparently we have offered Coutinho a new contract to try and keep him at least until summer.
Bumper pay and CAPTAINCY promise? Please stay, we'll make you captain. Seriously? 😂
On the 0.0000001% chance this is true, have you heard anything of the sort?
Seems like the most ridiculous bit of journalism to me 😂.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 04 Jan 2018 16:47:02
Brilliant rumour though. No chance it's real.


2.) 04 Jan 2018 16:47:02
Brilliant rumour though. No chance it's real.


3.) 04 Jan 2018 17:27:16
It was never about money or the clubs commitment and trust in him. He's been here for about five years, and won about **** all. He had his head turned by Barcelona and the glamour, fame and fortune.


4.) 04 Jan 2018 18:47:43
I imagine it’s complete garbage.


 

 

 

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31 May 2018 10:12:48
Would the 2 players even be related or could we possibly aim at getting both?
Just wondering because fekir is seen as Coutinho's replacement (playing central and left wing I assume) and Malcolm is a right winger.

We are in need of another pacey winger for when Mane and/ or Salah are tired/ injured so I don't see why we would pick 1 or other (except financial reasons but we'll walk away from that)

Thanks for your time and I hope this gets through ;_;
Have a great day everyone.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 31 May 2018 10:23:33
Though they are different I wouldn’t mind buying the two. The reason City walked away with the league last season was mainly due their skill full squad.
Fekir like Coutinho could play anywhere across the front three and in the middle. Malcom / Zaha / Bailey / Dembele, are all pure wingers. That means some notable names from the current bunch would be sold except the front three!


2.) 31 May 2018 11:17:28
I keep hearing an seeing Salah links with Madrid also the fact he has instructed his agents too get him the move, the 1st I heard of this was via the eds, ed02 too be exact . I love Salah an want him too stay til the end of his career but I can't help feeling there is no smoke without fire on the subject of him wanting Madrid . If it was the case an he anxious too get too Madrid the only deal we should ask for is bale coming in the opposite direction he is a world class game changer that would move us in completely the correct decision, also b brilliant for the youngsters too look up too especially woodburn an Harry Wilson . I know I am jumping the gun a bit but we have seen it too many times before.


3.) 31 May 2018 11:24:06
I prefer malcolm in the middle.


4.) 31 May 2018 12:50:51
If my memory is correct, Ed002 suggested if we were looking at Malcolm it would be as a potential replacement for Salah quite a while back, so I suppose it’s not inconceivable that we could sign him this season to rotate with the front 3 and then if one of them where to leave at any point in the future we’d still have a healthy looking squad before we actually targeted a replacement.

But I remember Fekir playing right wing, then CAM, then CF so if we only signed him I imagine him able to provide cover, especially if Wilson has a good pre season and could allow our budget to be used elsewhere for the time being.


5.) 31 May 2018 12:41:59
Burkeyboy, (sighs)

Malcolm in the Middle. Yes, No, Maybe, I don't know, can you repeat the question?


 

 

13 May 2018 22:36:36
Question to anybody who knows more and has watched Fekir because i've never watched him play and on here everybody says he can play attacking midfield and on the wing. But can he play as a striker also?

Reason I ask is I have just realized that the formation we played with today - which was more of a 4231 with Bobby behind Solanke (they seemed to rotate) instead of the usual 433 - could that have been a test run to see how it works in the event we do sign Fekir?

Could he possibly do what bobby and Solanke did today, rotate between playing up top and just behind?

Even with the midfield 2, Gini was still able to play the b2b role and get forward which would be Keita's role whilst Hendo stayed deep.


I was surprises by the team selection today and the formation but it worked a treat and we could have easily scored another 4 more.

OGRed_Phil

1.) 13 May 2018 22:43:38
I really don't think klopp or any manager in our situation would do that would they?

In principle tho I like thee formation better. especially if firmino is to drop deeper my prreference that his starting position is no deeper than that attacking midfield spot.


2.) 13 May 2018 23:43:49
I think the formation today was in response to us lacking central midfielders more than anything.


3.) 14 May 2018 01:00:47
+1 Mikey: agree that it was due to squad situation and not tactical nous.
It’s easy to like this formation after a 4-0 win but I think we lose bite in midfield with just 2 in the middle. I think this formation can work against teams that look to park the bus, but may not work against teams that come at us.


4.) 14 May 2018 05:14:03
I can't help but to tell that in my country, b2b is a very popular type of massage here.

{Ed001's Note - it is very popular in every country mate.}


5.) 14 May 2018 11:54:40
ye mikey, agreed there. milner carrying an in jury (apparantly? ), so wasn't a day to send woodburn out there.


6.) 16 May 2018 23:52:22
Fair enough yeah it probably is just due to the lack of options we had lol
Would be a great formation for PTB teams anyhow, instead of 3 mid fielders have 4 attackers lol

An Lmao Haizen, never had one but wouldn't mind it ;)


 

 

 

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31 May 2018 09:53:39
Euros or sterling? Lol.

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25 May 2018 10:55:32
Good question Livebird, he's out till around Christmas or something last I looked but what when he comes back?
Before his injury he was probably most peoples 1st choice for our midfield without a doubt lol.

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08 May 2018 22:05:27
Lmao ed1 brilliant xD.

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07 May 2018 15:34:16
Ben Elf he didn’t say no though
He said "during the game we agreed a deal? Id be surprised about that to be honest. No comment"

We all know he likes to throw a bit of humor on things and he isn’t exactly the one who will be over at Lyon trying to break the deal is he? :)

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06 May 2018 17:57:06
Hessle - it appears griezman has already signed for Barcelona according to Suarez haha.

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31 May 2018 12:48:10
The problem I have with Gini is he can be terrific for 1-2 games in a row, then he turns into a ghost for other games and you forget he is even on the pitch.
His consistency is awful - although that can be improved as he has had a decent run of performing well at the end of the season.

But with milner, you know what you are getting which 100% every game. Whether it’s as a starter or as a sub. Truly professional performances.

I don’t see why we can’t keep both though, Gini can always be extra cover for CB as well as midfield and milner can pretty much cover any position that’s asked of him.

As we all know Klopp loves versatile players.

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31 May 2018 12:47:36
it’s kinda hard to compare the 2 of them, zaha is pace and trickery.
Origi is pace and power.

With the right brain and attitude those attributes would make unbelievable players in their own way.

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31 May 2018 09:59:01
1) I highly doubt ward wants to stay after being kept from first team football for an entire season, we could have at least loaned him out instead of getting his hopes up.

2) Lovren has stepped his game up next to VVD, albeit the odd mistake/ misjudgment here and there but he has got a lot better compared to how he used to be.
Also, buying a world class center back will just knock Gomez further down the pecking order and he needs to start getting more chances playing at CB because he does have high potential (hopefully) .
Unless Clynn goes, we have 3 players to cover right back (Trent, Fabinho and Clynn) so Gomez will probably be utilised more in the center unless Trent moves into midfield, but I don't see that happening with how strong our midfield is getting :')

You never know, with a top keeper we might not need to fork out on a top CB because what we have may be more confident and be even more solid.

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29 May 2018 19:36:23
He kinda sounds like Lucas a bit specially with the not afraid to take down a player if needed and accept a booking for it. We have missed that since he left so that’s a big welcome.

On the other hand Keita's disciplinary record isn’t all that great either but everybody seems convinced Klopp can make it better so he may do the same for fab too.

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29 May 2018 19:35:32
Gini is a great player, the games he does turn up he is like a madman all over the pitch driving forward or winning the ball. it’s just a shame he is so inconsistent and for a lot of games invisible. he’s been getting better lately though so hopefully he keeps getting more consistent.

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