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01 May 2017 11:17:59
If anyone wants to know how good Ricardo Perreira (RB for Nice, on loan from Porto) is, just check out his assist (long busting run and sweet pass to Balo from a brilliant finish) and sumptuous goal (cuts in from the right, curls one in with his left to the top corner).
I know we are interested and if we want to really upgrade the FB position (as he can play both) he is the one we need. He is top class.
1.) 01 May 2017 11:50:57
Yeah, we need adept attacking fullbacks in order for Klopp's system to be taken to the next level. His system is heavily reliant on fullbacks contributing to the attack an unfortunately the players he has for the fullback positions are not up to standard to deliver the goods.
My hope is that Klopp brings in quality and major upgrades on what we currently have for the both fullback positions.
Fingers crossed!
2.) 01 May 2017 12:10:22
From what I've seen seems to be able to cross a ball properly. Not saying he is a great player but watching Kingsley from Swansea yesterday and was able to cross from deep with pace and whip, which caused united problems. Don't need a big cf to score from those either as gives the striker a chance to get the run on the defender for an open header.
3.) 01 May 2017 12:39:23
I think the loan back to Fulham may well be a perfect scenario, especially if Fulham manage promotion, it would give him the chance to play top flight and Liverpool chance to see if his potential still looks as good in the prem as it does in the championship.
4.) 01 May 2017 14:36:48
If we sign someone then he should play with us. What's the point in loaning back. We need first team player. If Sessengon could playf for us, then fair enough else try someone. The last thing you need is another Grujic or Allan!
5.) 01 May 2017 18:32:11
You're talking about Grujic and Allan like you've already written their chances off. Why? Still time for them to become important players for us, by all accounts.
Of course we need first team ready players, but I have no problem of season-long loans if our coaches think it will help their development.
{Ed002's Note - A loan for Grujic is a problem due to promises made to the player and others. Whilst much is expected of Grujic he was far from EPL first team ready and it was an error to bring him in at that time on the deal he got. Several small injuries and a couple of issues have disrupted his season. If central midfield was bolstered during the summer it would leave him wondering about his chances next season as well. Of several major sides interested in him at the time, it was only Liverpool who gave assurances. The others would have seen him on loan gaining vaulable experience. So a year older and no more experienced.
A further loan for Allan may be the only option due to work permit difficulties. Perhaps Liverpool will give a shot to trying to persuade folks he deserves a work permit and he will be a regular and valuable first team player next season. Else a loan or sale beckons - certainly no gimme.}
6.) 01 May 2017 19:05:57
Fair enough, but there's still a chance that both players could end up in the Liverpool first team, no? Seems a bit premature to right them both off.
My point is that loans aren't inherently bad. Some work well for a player's development - take Harry Kane at Millwall or Lukaku at West Brom, for example. Others, like the aforementioned, may not be so beneficial.
7.) 01 May 2017 19:55:50
Ed can you elaborate on the couple of issues Grujic has had in addition to the injuries at all? I was unaware. I will use the search if it's been covered previously cheers.
{Ed002's Note - No, I don't think it appropriate but some work needs to be done.}
8.) 02 May 2017 22:07:30
No worries understood hope it all gets sorted.
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06 Apr 2017 03:09:41
Well boys, I know it was not the result we wanted and it was a lost opportunity to leave Arsenal and Utd in our wake. However, I propose that people moaning and overreacting read Klopp's post game comments regarding the game, his lineup, substitutions and in-game decision-making and you will understand that NOTHING went our way today.
Matip didn't start cos he had to be pulled as he was having back spasms before the game hence, Klavan had to get in the game cold. Then, we gifted them two goals where as they had only TWO shots on target whereas we had 8, excluding hitting the crossbar and Origi missing a clear chance to score or set up Klavan for a tap in. Wiji made a mistake which is rare as he has bailed us out with his great performances, goals and assists. Couts getting sick and had to b hooked right at the time we were dominating them which killed momentum. I will say that Klopp should have put Woodburn on to keep their defence honest and not Matip BUT I understand.
All in all, I think we should all just calm down and remain positive for this season. We have 60 points currently, our points told last season. We are 3rd, ahead of City, Arsenal and City, teams who spent WAY more than we did last season. Origi and Couts are back in form and Hendo and Lallana are not far from coming back and we extended our lead on City by one point.
Klopp has given us great improvement this season compared to last season and tho, he's made mistakes and that's ok as he's not perfect, he has put us in a position to finish the job and get CL this season. Hence, our boys need our unwaivering support cos things aren't going to get easier so let's stick together, support the team and let's get it done. Go REDS!
1.) 06 Apr 2017 06:10:13
Red, you are trying your best to absolve klopp from blame. The fact is that klopp messed up with his substitution last nite. We drew the game because of klopp''s tactical mistake. That is given! Let's stop this klopp worship and call a spade a spade. We will regret it one day if we continue we this behaviour. Klopp has come and will certainly leave one day. We will stay with Liverpool forever. Where mistakes are made we should be man enough to say it's a mistake. Don't dress it with cosmetics. Klopp failed us last nite! However we continue to pursue top 4. Hope he has learned from his mistakes.
2.) 06 Apr 2017 09:58:17
Funny old game. How many times have I read fans saying at 2.1 up klopp should have tightened the defence rather than put on another attacker that's what cost us the win and needs to learn not to be open and see out win etc. Yet does it last night and now it's all his fault unreal! Am sure had he put sturridge on and we had drawn 2.2 same fans be moaning why he didn't shut up shop at 2.1! Can't win. Btw Anyone know the stats for teams shoots on target to goals ratio ours must be terrible off top of my head can think of Arsenal 3 shots on target 3 goals Swansea the same and last night 2 on target 2 goals.
3.) 06 Apr 2017 11:07:03
To be fair Z99 a lot of people have also advocated continuing to attack before as they know our defence is not very good. We are at risk from set pieces and sitting back invites continual pressure - we are better attacking and racking up goals as we cannot be relied upon not to concede.
4.) 06 Apr 2017 13:14:38
Their 2nd goal had nothing to do with bringing Matip on for coutinho. I myself thought it was a strange decision but that's not why they scored, that's just you looking to blame someone!
5.) 06 Apr 2017 13:28:09
If you are attacking the ball as a team unit as far up the pitch as possible then it has to be better than sitting back for the simple reason that the ball is kept as far from our goal as possible.
Attack as a team is the best form of defence.
The zonal marking at set pieces is where a lot of our problems lie.
We win the first ball in with a half header but the other team seems to react quicker to where the ball lands from this header.
Klaren last night while watching the player in his zone had no idea where the ball was and ultimately cost us the goal.
6.) 06 Apr 2017 14:17:01
Dermot, That is the part that worries me. Our boys are not switched on 100% during defensive situations. It feels that once the first ball is won, they relax. That is due to complacency and lack of mental focus and bottle.
Mogreen, you have been posting "blame Klopp" type posts since the game ended so you lack credibility here. Once again, read my post carefully and see that I may not agree with bringing Matip on at that time BUT can understand his thinking. This may be a surprise to you BUT two things can be right at the same time and everything is NOT black or white, my friend. Couts got hooked for being sick. Is that Klopp's fault? Klavan bottled a challenge. Is that his fault as well? He tried something and it didn't work. So what? So he's now overrated and needs to go? Utter tripe, my friend. Managers screw up and learn from their mistakes which in many situations this season, Klopp has.
7.) 06 Apr 2017 16:05:26
Z99, football fans that aren't casual would understand when certain areas need to be addressed during a game. At 2-1 before the sub was made we where absolutely bossing the game and seeing it out pretty comfortably. Coutinho goes off because he was sick and instead of continuing with the attack bringing on studge, Woodburn or TAA to continue pressurising high up the field we preceded to sit back and allow Bournemouth to get back into the game. Bournemouth like to attack and that's what they started to do, they suddenly had more of the ball and more room to play because we relied on our shoddy defense to see it out, which is a mistake almost all the time. The last time we properly held out a lead with good defending was against Man City 1-0 late December, that was the last time we could actually rely on our defence holding out a narrow lead, where the opposition team is piling on constant pressure. That is when you're supposed to make a defensive change, when we're under constant pressure and the opposition has more of the ball, not when we are in total control. You win some you lose some, but errors are errors and it's not the first time Klopp has made in game errors either by not acting, or making strange decisions like yesterday. Yesterday's result however was a combination of individual errors and tactical mishaps, not just the managers fault.
Also how many times this season has a player been pulled the day before or the day of the match, it is getting ridiculous. Does anyone even know when hendo and Lallana are due back, this has been a recurring theme under Klopp.
8.) 06 Apr 2017 18:43:24
Kman, the last time our defence kept out a top team was vs Spurs who had one shot on target the whole game and NONE in the second half. I disagree about us keeping the attack on tho as that is what Klopp did vs this same team and lost a 3-1 lead and lost 4-3 finally. Klopp has changed in that mode and has succeeded in shutting up shop and winning games vs Boro, (right after the loss), Stoke, City, Spurs and Arsenal by playing compact and not giving anything away, all while remaining dangerous on the break.
I would have liked to bring on TAA or Woodburn to keep them honest BUT Klopp gave reasons why he did not do that and they are valid whether you agree with him or not. I may not agree with the reasons he gave BUT I understand them. Why? Cos they didn't have a sniff for 21 minutes after Matip came on and had Klavan not lost the ball when King had it, we win and Klopp is a genius again. That is management in a nutshell. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I agree with parts of your posts globally and as you said tactical decisions are just that, you win some you lose and draw others. Injuries are what they are. Unpredictable so one has to be careful. Off we go to Stoke.
03 Jun 2017 23:55:54
Bottom line is nobody knows anything about the negotiations and people like the OP and Xpertoyin, need to stop spouting rubbish about the owners not paying the crazy wages players want. No one knows how much mendy was offered and how much more City put in for him and if he wants to go there then so be it.
We have been mugged in the past and we are trying to put a lid on things bu the FIFA Manager generation just can't figure that out as all they know is buying players for whatever wages on a video game. We need to be competitive in our wage offers and we must learn to live within our means. "A midtable wage structure". Utter nonsense and shows that you know nothing about LFC's wage bill as more successful clubs than ours don't even pay what we pay. Like Ed said, have a day off, X. You need it.
01 Jun 2017 11:09:13
Origi is not going anywhere. N BTW, why can't we have both of them?
01 Jun 2017 11:08:22
Yes OP, you are being too giddy. Jordz, I wouldn't want Salah either cos he failed to settle and cos he rejected us the last time, not cos he and Mane will be off to the AFCON as it is the player's right to play for his country or not. I would take Brandt instead.
30 May 2017 19:52:08
How can he be reliable when he is often injured, Creg? Also when fit, he is still not good enough and won't start ahead of any of or first eleven. If it is for depth then that is another discussion BUT for now, he is not good enough and will not be a plus to our squad. KK is right on the money here and no, Ox will not be a good piece of business.
26 May 2017 17:41:54
They are both awful and won't improve us. let us focus our energy on actually getting a true RB and LB instead of all these sop gap measures that only prolong the problem.
03 Jun 2017 23:42:30
Liverpool4life, the LB option of Rodriguez and maybe Ghoulam, are not good enough as they cannot defend at all. hector is now playing the DM position for Koln but LB for Germany so don't know how that would work here either. Mendy has improved since his Jekyl and Hyde days at OM and glad to see he has developed to a very good LB. I hope the stong Ricardo Pereira interest will yield something as he is just as good if not better than Mendy. Also, he is two footed and can play the RB/ LB positions easily.
03 Jun 2017 23:06:14
I for one, am excited with the Salah signing should it happen. I don't care about his time at Chelsea as he never really got a chance to play and Mou has a record of ditching talented players or wingers who can't play the FB position in his bus-parking tactics like Schurle, KDB, Mata. Even Hazard had a pop at him for doing that a few years ago and that got him bencched. Salah has improved massively in Italy and with Klopp at the helm, I am excited at what he can do.
03 Jun 2017 23:43:35
I agree with you, Red and Bedd. VVD ain't going to happen and for that price, I am glad as he is not even close to being worth it. He lacks game awareness, concentration and positioning.
He also plays in a team with potentially two DM's in Romeu and/ or Classie/ Hojbjerg in front of him hence, he is well protected. That would not happen here (as we don't play with a pure DM) as our CB's are often exposed and would be required to defend one on one during counter attacks. This is where he will be found out and frankly, I'd either get someone better for cheaper or coach up the CB's we currently have now.
03 Jun 2017 23:42:32
This love-in with Ox is just baffling. People say he is versatile. Wrong. He is simply a jack of all trades and master of none. he is also very injury-prone and not better than even our squad players. Him at RB would be madness as he can't defend, can't attack and is just a runner (something anyone even myself can do) . I propose we stay away from him cos he along with Walcott, Ramsey and Gibbs, have been stuck in neutral for years now at Arsenal in terms of their development. We can definitely do better than him even as a squad player.
30 May 2017 19:50:30
Sorry but the likes of Ox and Gray will not improve us in any way cos they are not even better than what we already have and just cos they don't play here does not mean they are better esp. if they are bench warmers at their current clubs. we shall see who we get but we should just fishing in the depths of other team's barrels in search of their rejects.