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17 Mar 2018 01:28:38
Zero need for pessimism re the draw, it's not like we're going into the match playing football like United with Jose as manager. As Klopp said, let's be believers, not doubters. There is no team in world football who'd see us as an easy draw. We have a very talented team, we play great football, our manager is Pep's kryptonite and we can definitely beat Man City over two legs.


1.) 17 Mar 2018 01:47:59
Spot on mate. BRING EM ON!



12 Mar 2018 18:27:00
TAA also got exposed defensively against City and it was at that point Klopp started playing TAA against weaker teams. I'm not sure if Gomez could play 2 in a week or not given that he's just come back from injury but even if not, I feel TAA should've got the dead rubber match and Gomez this one. I thought Klopp had sussed it at this point, TAA in the matches against weaker teams where we'd have a lot of the ball, Gomez v the bigger teams where we'd be defending more, or even v park the bus teams, where we'd still be tested by better quality players. Don't get me wrong, TAA is a future star but for where he's at now, I think it was naive of Klopp to play him in a match of this magnitude.


1.) 12 Mar 2018 18:40:30
But Gomez made errors against arsenal and Chelsea. I think we need to accept that they’re both young inexperienced defenders who we either decide to stick with and show patience, or we get rid and spend big. However surely most would agree that these 2 players are worth the patience.

2.) 12 Mar 2018 19:00:16
Spot on, Lemuel. I fully agree with you. Having said that, neither of us know what was wrong with Gomez and why he did not play cos I was expecting Gomez to play however, Gomez is also as error prone as TAA is as well so these are not exact sciences. We move on.

3.) 12 Mar 2018 19:19:46
Trent had a pretty good game against spurs.

4.) 12 Mar 2018 19:54:07
Surely we can't be writing off 2 bright talented players who WILL LEARN THROUGH EXPERIENCE. what kind of fans have we turned into when we can't give our youngsters a chance. If it was clyne I could understand he's had years of experience but Gomez and trenty have both made similar errors and will definately make a few more during their careers. We need to stick by them because we can ALL see the undoubted potential and if we let them go we will regret it. It's not like the errors they have made this season has cost us the league or a trophy.

5.) 12 Mar 2018 19:59:25
Spot on, FBNS.

6.) 12 Mar 2018 20:14:31
We don’t have a RB to call up on. That’s the reality and few posters were convinced we didn’t need one next season either. Klopp had no choice other than two youngsters! He should have either instructed one of the CM to play close to him or play James Milner there!

7.) 12 Mar 2018 20:25:54
All very easy to say with hindsight Lemuel. When I saw TAA on the team sheet I hardly thought ‘oh my god he should’ve played Gomez’.
The way the game went he got caught out, it can happen to anyone let’s just leave the kid alone he’s been superb for us thus far and will only get better.
I’m not sure why we always have to blame people for conceding goals and losing games. It’s football, both will happen again. Lots of times in fact, if you can’t handle that then just watch and support something and someone else.

8.) 12 Mar 2018 22:08:32
We should get an experienced right back to guide them. Don't play too many games, Gomez can replace matip as a centre back choice. Not sure who, bad I can't think of that many good right backs, but someone who could step up for big games.

9.) 12 Mar 2018 22:45:42
We were outplayed in every area of the pitch by a well organised side. Playing Gomez wouldn’t have changed the game at all. TAA made a mistake that led to goal, it happens regardless of how experience a player is. He needs mistakes like this to ingrain it into his brain for next time. Fair play to the lad he had a tough game going up against one of the countries brightest stars. He’d get in my team for the weekend.

10.) 12 Mar 2018 23:17:36
Over the top knee jerk reactions or what? Listen to yourselves. TAA has been pretty solid this season. He was done by rashford first goal, lovren helped put him in that position and the experienced defender didn't exactly help on the second goal.

11.) 12 Mar 2018 23:45:37
Criticising two of the best younger players we have had in recent seasons, who have been playing very well so far this season, simply because they occasionally make errors playing in unnatural positions.?

Seems reasonable.

12.) 13 Mar 2018 00:24:04
North Yorkshire Red. In what way were we outplayed in every department? We made 2 errors and from then on dominated the game.
OK we didn't create too many chances but to say we were outplayed is way off the mark.

13.) 13 Mar 2018 08:27:07
I seem to remember TAA announcing his arrival in the first team set up with an excellent display against man utd not too long ago.

14.) 13 Mar 2018 09:01:22
We were hardly out played NYR. They hit a few long balls which Lukaku made something out of. Other than that we were in full control of the game.

15.) 13 Mar 2018 09:02:02
I’d have no problem with Trent playing every game. Love the kid proud that he’s a proud red. Future captain if you ask me. He didn’t cost us the game 21 other players in that pitch.

16.) 13 Mar 2018 10:36:10
I was fairly happy with TAA's performance this weekend. He made one mistake where he tried to be too clever setting up a counter attack rather than doing his job and making sure their attack had been halted. He had been fine up to that point, he didn't go to pieces after it had happened, he stayed solid at the back and was amongst our more threatening options going forward for the rest of the game. It was a long way from a glorious performance but it wasn't 90 minutes of unmitigated disaster, it was a mistake that he will learn from. I'd still be starting him in the next game happily.

17.) 13 Mar 2018 12:29:09
It's not always about defenders making mistakes, sometimes it is attackers playing very well. The mistakes were made by Can for not shielding lukaku and helping lovren. For their first, trent was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. If he hadn't of tracked rashford run then rash would have gone to the left and shot, trent did track the run and got wrong footed. People being very harsh on taa, if anyone is to blame it is Can but I know what he was thinking, he was thinking lovren might win the ball and Can could get on the attack. He is not defence minded enough to play a defensive role. Apart from Hendo we don't have any real defensive midfielders.

Gini Hendo lallana.

That is my favourite midfield from last season. The Ox could come in for any of them and do well.

Someone was slagging lallana yesterday, baby driver I think, they said "who is he better than? When I said he is one of our better players.

If you want me to rate our midfielders from 1 down.


I would love to see a fully fit

Ox Hendo lallana

Perhaps we will in the world cup.

Lallana is being so underrated. He didn't go from being one of the best players in the league (last season and his last 2 seasons at Southampton) to being average as some are claiming. He has been injured, give him the time to get back, next season he will be as sharp as anyone. I can't wait. Hendo keita and lallana is some midfield. Again the ox can come into it.

18.) 13 Mar 2018 12:30:49
Guys seriously? Man U were well organised, they made sure we had no room to attack. They nullified Salah and Firmino and out played us in the midfield. We didn’t dominate them after the mistakes as someone said. Man U didn’t have to chase the game any more so they didn’t. We weren’t threatening them in any way so were happy to sit back. Take the blinkers off lads there’s no shame in losing to to the better team on the day away from home.

19.) 13 Mar 2018 15:14:09
Lallana is off Super Salah! He has no place. Keita will play alongside Jorginho ( if we are damn lucky ) plus Klopp will buy a replacement for Coutinho aswell! There is no place for Hendo let alone Lallana!

20.) 13 Mar 2018 15:15:40
Agreed with NorthYorkshire! Having a lot of possession and passing it between themselves and sneaking through the middle is no dominating! UTD concedeed the possession and defended well.

21.) 13 Mar 2018 19:37:49
Harry, that does not mean as NYR put it, that we were outplayed in every dept of the game. That is just knee-jerk stuff that lacks any kind of perspective. They tried something (hoofball really), and it worked twice, that's it. It was up to us to react to it the first time it happened and it did not and that is where Klopp and the players have to be proactive instead of reactive as games like this are won on the margins as the denied penalty shouts (I did not say that, Neville, Jenas and Lampard did) showed.

{Ed001's Note - 3 times. Mata got in and missed a sitter remember.}



07 Feb 2018 01:48:29
I must say a Doucoure Henderson Keita midfield would be formidable. Throw in Demirbay, who we appear to have been tracking, to come in when Hendo gets injured with Doucoure moving into the dlp role and we'd still be grand. Keita has the creativity to be our playmaker of sorts, although he's primarily a box to box mid. I'd actually think he's what Klopp would want in a playmaker, given his loyalty to the 433 formation and demand of intense work rate. I'd assume Doucoure would be relatively easy to attain given that he plays for Watford, so here's hoping.


1.) 07 Feb 2018 09:53:23
Lemual, I LOVE Doucoure. He would be perfect in a double pivot in CM as that is where he plays alongside Capoue at Watford and they bossed Chelsea which well, is not a big deal anymore cos Fabregas is finished, leaving Kante to cover the whole midfield. Doucoure, all the way.

2.) 07 Feb 2018 10:59:14
id rather aoc with trent rotating in the box to box role as i feel that where his eventual position will be.

3.) 07 Feb 2018 11:02:39
Is Decoure good enough? I think I'd prefer Wiltshire for free. Who's that arsenal striker who used to play for utd. I reckon we could get him.

4.) 07 Feb 2018 11:07:23
Doucoure is that lanky midfielder from Watford? I think he or Pedro Obiang good enough for covering our defence.



28 Jan 2018 00:15:40
I've seen many a tactical innovation but never have I seen a team play a false defender as we did with Joel Matip today. He's like a Ferrari without an engine, looks stylish as he's good on the ball but when it comes to performing the function he's actually supposed to perform, defending, he's absolutely useless.


1.) 28 Jan 2018 01:57:02
Forget abt matip . We need a defending coach to come and help us. Our defenders with midfield are all over the place which is unacceptable at this level 🙈🙈.



11 Jan 2018 00:54:40
Am I the only who who feels our midfield is lacking in quality at present despite having no shortage in quantity? Keita, Lemar/ another top quality player who can play the playmaker role and someone who can break up play but still spray the ball around e. g. Ceballos, who seems interested in the move would be the remedy in my humble opinion. Admittedly it's a lot of change but I feel our midfield really needs a revamp.

If we can find a few more pennies then I'd love us to sign Alisson as a long term fix to our goalkeeper situation and if we were to get all of this done then we would be genuine title contenders.


{Ed0333's Note - I agree our midfield lacks the neccecary quality for a side trying to win the Premiership and the champions league.

1.) 11 Jan 2018 02:30:41
Agree. feel like we have a bunch of good players like lallana, ox, Hendo, can and gini but none of them can dominate on a consistent basis. I look at our front line and I see 3 guys who are as good enough to walk away into any teams starting line up
I don't think we can say that about any mids.

2.) 11 Jan 2018 03:54:25
This is why we bought Keita and potentislly another mid.

3.) 11 Jan 2018 03:56:17
Personally wouldn't go to that extent. We are unbeaten in Europe, unbeaten in 19 games in a row is it? And dominate 95% of games possesion wise. We seem to overlook the dog work hendo and gini do, I think they, along with ox tick like clogs in a clock. I'm scared we are going to throw that away with the more flair/ flamboyant players that we are linked with. With couts gone indefinitely agree we need one in, with keita being an upgrade on gini. That said I wouldn't mind hendo/ keita/ ox as our midfield three, it seems, on paper to tick all the boxes needed. E.

4.) 11 Jan 2018 04:25:02
If you wander over to the ManU site you will see fans commenting on how they wish they had a midfield that could dominate possession and press like ours. I agree ours need to work together better as a team (sadly Im starting to think this means getting someone new in as we seem incapable of covering properly for each other) but it does suggest that we might not necessarily appreciate what we have.

5.) 11 Jan 2018 05:34:40
Benny I think the midfield concerns are valid, we may dominate possession most weeks but we are not the best at controlling a game either, which is quite different to retaining possession.

6.) 11 Jan 2018 06:28:12
We have a decent set of midfield players, the two things you can argue we may lack are a true defensive midfielder (which may be useful in selected games), and we have Gini and Milner in the box to box role who don’t really scare the scoresheet often enough. I never feel like either are going to do something out of the box to unlock a game. Hopefully Keita solves the latter but not sure about the former as we lack someone to back up Hendo for the deeper role when Can leaves.

In terms of replacing Coutinho and creativity, although very different in style Lallana has been very very effective in the attacking midfield role before, with his movement and trickery in tight spaces capable of unlocking sides. Ox likewise a decent shout, but perhaps less effective in a tight space. I would like to see Lemar who has a good shot from distance and good feet come in, think he would add something different. make no mistake though we’ve played some of or best games with Lallana in the forward midfield role so I don’t think we’ll miss Coutinho as much as people think if he manages to hit form. I think the GK situation is far more urgent.

7.) 11 Jan 2018 07:13:51
I think what we do need is a proper DM. Last really good defensive midfeilder we had was macherano.

It may also be time to realise that henderson is just not consistent enough to cut it for liverpool. So maybe a need to replace captain and midfielder.

8.) 11 Jan 2018 07:36:18
Sad to say Pak, this was realised by most of the fanbase ages ago :)
He has his qualities, but he's just not good enough and that is with no hate/ abuse for the guy - he does try hard, just an honest assessment.

9.) 11 Jan 2018 08:27:01
We do need a DM, but like ed001 says, it would help a lot if even our current midfielders were more inclined to cynically foul the opposition on the break like City can do. We are too nice. I'm hoping that getting Keita goes some way toward solving that, he seems to have some venom.

10.) 11 Jan 2018 09:22:39
It would also help if Milner and Gini started to put a few in the back of the net, don’t care if it’s late runs into the box or shots from outside the box but right now, neither are delivering beyond the passing and pressing (which they are doing a decent job of but we need more) .

11.) 11 Jan 2018 10:34:30
It's one reason why I don't understand why people question Klopp tactically, ok maybe he should be more flexible, but stick a couple of real top class talents in the middle and we really would be a formidable force. Supposedly, one is coming, now we need to find another and we'll be away.

12.) 11 Jan 2018 10:36:33
Also, Hendo is our best midfielder by a country mile. He's not the one that needs replacing (when he's fit) .

13.) 11 Jan 2018 11:44:22
If Hendo gets fit he'll be a starter for years, he's more than good enough.

14.) 11 Jan 2018 13:20:29
Thanks Jordan, get back to the medical centre now please mate - good job little buddy :)




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04 Mar 2018 03:44:26
What game were you watching Jcw_XS? Henderson did the exact opposite of slowing our play down, the second he got the ball he looked to keep it moving. Can was the chief culprit in slowing the play down, he constantly took 3 touches minimum before releasing the ball.


{Ed0333's Note - that’s three touches less than Can normally takes lol



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30 Jan 2018 00:13:21
If this is true then Klopp has truly lost the plot and he must be taken to an insane asylum at once. Thankfully the likelihood of this being true is the same as pigs flying.




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25 Jan 2018 14:28:15
Brewster is highly rated but injured at the moment, ankle injury.





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13 Mar 2018 15:59:33
I'd have Karius over Butland every day of the week. The only reason i'd remove Karius from his No.1 spot is if an obvious upgrade was attainable e. g. Oblak or Alison, he's performed very well since being made undisputed No.1.




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07 Mar 2018 18:53:35
Prime example of The Jack Wilshere effect taking place re Clyne, the longer a player is out injured the better he becomes. It's also a damning statement on the quality of full backs around at the minute that Clyne is being seen as anywhere near good. Do people not remember when everybody was asking that TAA/ Gomez be played because Clyne had had an absolute nightmare v Burnley when we lost 2-0? He's only being seen as good defensively because of the Jack Wilshere effect. I fully agree with the OP that TAA and Gomez are already better than Clyne at right back. I'd also add that I think Gomez is better at crossing too. When he's running onto the ball I've seen him put some great crosses in, also put that brilliant cross in v Arsenal for Firmino's goal when we destroyed them.




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27 Feb 2018 02:13:45
Seen Big Sam dressed as a dinosaur for every Everton match.




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07 Feb 2018 02:41:05
Good read but I must I feel you're giving your players too much credit. I'd say your top quality players are - Courtois (at his best), Azpi, Christensen, Kante, Hazard. Fabregas hasn't been great this season, as Zola says, cannot play in a midfield two and it's difficult to accommodate him so I feel he's a luxary player. Alonso is a strange one, nowhere near being a world-beater but his attacking contributions make him important for you. Rudiger I'd need to see more of. The rest of your players either fall into the good category (Morata), squad player category (Giroud) or poor player category (Drinkwater, Cahill a few of them) for me.




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01 Feb 2018 15:39:00
Fottballers I'd imagine, mind you bin men would probably do a better job than Mignolet in goal.