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05 Jun 2022 23:32:01
So, Paul Joyce has reported that Bayern's initial offer for Sadio Mane is 21 million plus 4 million. No doubt they will come back with something closer to our valuations, which is apparently around 40 million. Ironically, I think the initial fee is what Liverpool paid for Thiago.
James Milner has signed a new 1 year contract, on significantly reduced terms. Klopp clearly values the man for his professionalism. Hopefully, he gets a good last year and then Hendo can take up the Milner role, i. e. Mr Reliable, gives his all and is a complete professional to our younger players.
Also, apparently Liverpool are moving to get Joe Gomez under a new contract, as he has two years left. Fingers crossed on this one, as I feel he could push for a starting place, just needs some lucky with injuries.
In terms of incoming, nothing yet. Would not be surprised if a signing comes suddenly and without much warning, i. e. Luis Diaz. Will be a very busy period, I reckon, both in and out of the club.
My best wishes to you Eds :P.
1.) 05 Jun 2022 23:48:46
Gomez could still be a quality CB in my view if his fitness issues are behind him, fingers crossed for the lad.
Hope the mane deal gets sorted asap so we get someone in quickly (can’t see it being Nunez)
As part of milners new deal I’ve heard he’s now got a set of double doors named after him.
2.) 05 Jun 2022 23:56:30
Missing out one of the key points with regards to an incoming.
Joyce confirmed the interest of Liverpool in Darwin Nunez and has said the club will look to sign him (except not for crazy money) .
Gonna be an interesting few weeks.
3.) 06 Jun 2022 04:39:05
Joe Gomez is a squad player now, he got passed over last year. When he got a run in the past, he was unlucky with injuries and was always good for 2 or 3 moments fans holding your breath. Klopp was hunting for replacement even before C.V., believe top choices were Diego Carlos and Pau Torres at that time, got too expensive, then we shifted to Upamecano, finally got Konate. If he's happy to be a squad player, happy to have him.
4.) 06 Jun 2022 06:56:27
I think Gomez will much more involved when/ if/ should Matip leave. This makes sense to me as even though Matip is good, he is starting to play second fiddle to Konate so I feel it would be better to keep a younger HG player than an older non HG player on likely date higher wages. Just my opinion though I trust whatever Klopp does.
5.) 06 Jun 2022 07:40:28
Given how well he stayed injury free last season and also had a good season. I think this would be the best window to make some money on Matip. He’s a good player and has served us well, but I think Van D, Konate and Gomez are enough to see us through a season.
His stock is as high as it will get so if we receive an offer we should consider it in my opinion.
6.) 06 Jun 2022 08:17:49
Just 15 months after a centre back injury crisis we should sell Matip for no particular reason?
Were no lessons learned from that period that devastated our season?
7.) 06 Jun 2022 08:36:52
Flash we now have Van Dijk, Konate, Gomez, Van Den Berg who can all play centre back still. Gomez didn’t get a sniff of first team football last season. If we need money for new players why keep a player who every season bar last season was constantly injured? He’s stayed virtually injury free this season and has played really well.
In my opinion this is the best time to cash in on him. He’s played really well this year and must have interest from somewhere from him.
8.) 06 Jun 2022 08:41:19
Joe will also fill in at RB when needed.
9.) 06 Jun 2022 09:45:39
Matip going nowhere.
10.) 06 Jun 2022 10:03:22
Sad to see Joe go, but given that someone out there will overpay for an English player, then if he's going to remain 4th choice, maybe time to cash in now.
11.) 06 Jun 2022 10:12:18
I genuinely can't believe people think getting rid of matip for a few pound is a good idea.?
12.) 06 Jun 2022 10:51:14
If I had to choose over Matip and Gomez. It has to be Gomez every day. He’s younger, HG and I think can become a better centre back than Matip. I’d say Matip is likely on more than Gomez also.
If any are to leave it has to be Matip for me. Don’t get me wrong I like the guy and he’s gave his all when played, but he’s older and more than likely last time to bring in some decent money for him.
13.) 06 Jun 2022 12:00:47
Doesn’t matter what we think there is a reason Matip gets in ahead of Gomez. If decent offer comes in Gomez will go .
14.) 06 Jun 2022 17:47:44
I've got this crazy notion that as it's been proven we need 4 good centre backs to cover all eventualities and we currently have 4 excellent centre backs that Klopp is liable to keep them all (provided they want to stay and fight for their place) . Call me radical!
I can imagine getting rid of one and getting a serious injury to one of the others early on in the season, many of the same voices clamouring to sell one for no good reason just now would be the same ones screaming for a spare centre half and demanding an inquest on how we've only got 3 centre backs left.
29 May 2022 18:19:50
So, reports coming out that Sadio Mane intends to leave Liverpool. He has even informed Klopp and his teammates that he wants to leave.
A lot to digest right now. But, honestly, when it comes to Mane, all I can say is thank you. He has handled himself with professionalism throughout and deserves the chance to ply his trade elsewhere, as long as we get the valuation we believe we are earned, of course.
He has been made to change positions numerous times, from RW to LW (When Salah joined) to LW to ST (When Diaz joined) and has not complained once. He has put in incredible effort on the pitch every time he plays, even when he is not performing well or scoring regularly. His commitment can not be put into question.
When the rumours came out about Mane, he did not rock the boat before a big final and was simply respectful of all parties. He has handled himself well throghout his time at Liverpool and such behaviour should be applauded at a time when players believe themselves above the club (I.e. Mbappe, etc) and act accordingly.
I will miss Mane greatly, but he has earned the right to move. Best wishes to the guy, he is a Liverpool legend and was the starting point for Klopp's period of improvement. All the best and I wish nothing for success in Germany or elsewhere.
1.) 29 May 2022 18:52:09
Great player very sad to see him go, if I could replace him with any player it would be Son from spurs not going to happen but would love to see Son playing for us .
2.) 29 May 2022 19:19:45
Good post man, I’m not in the best of moods anyway today and suspected this news was coming
He deserves respect for what he did for the club and I wish him well, he will be missed.
Gnabry is coming in the opposite direction.
3.) 29 May 2022 19:20:06
Agreed. Has been a great servant and even has the courtesy to leave when his powers are waning! What a gent! Lol seriously though I wish nothing but this man all the best. A hell of a performer. Question is who do we bring in to replace him? Given Mane us over the years primarily been on the left and we now have Diaz there I would be going for an out and out number 9 striker. Not sure who that is though.
4.) 29 May 2022 19:32:42
Son is going nowhere since Conte has 150M to spend, and is a fantastic manager.
LFC need to spend so wisely, and i am not sure we have time to develop another player slowly -we need someone who will hit the ground running, and score goals galore. Our lack of goals over the 3 finals and the fact that Conte and Carlo's tactics can stifle us so well means it might be time to adapt the tactics and get someone who will give us more options.
We needed Div last night.
5.) 29 May 2022 20:44:25
Have faith in Klopp and his staff. They came up with Mane and Salah in the first place, trust in them to replace those players as and when it is required.
It just probably won't be the flavour of the month names you see being touted round at extortionate prices.
6.) 30 May 2022 00:19:28
Exactly Flash. Keep the faith in recruitment team. Before Mane signed his record was 2 in 22 for Metz, 31 in 63 for RBS and 21 in 67 for Southampton. Good return but even for Saints, 8 of those 21 came in 3 matches. Lots of big forward names being shouted recently (Kane, Dembele, Son, Gnabry. ) but our greatest successes of recent times have been "Big potential = low price" That's our market which means the chat probably won't even include most of our targets.
Whatever happened to £40m rated Sarr?
7.) 30 May 2022 00:33:57
Flash, if the news about them contacting Dembele is true then they’ve lost my faith in them,
8.) 30 May 2022 02:00:16
I would break the bank for Son. He's world class. We did similar for both Allison and Virgil, and have to do it again.
31 Jan 2022 13:12:42
It looks like we won't be signing Fabio Carvalho, after all.
Fulham have apparently not responded to our 5 million offer, with a loan back to Fulham included for the rest of the season. A shame because the lad looks like a quality player with a bright future.
Borussia Dortmund looking at him for the summer too. That seems to be a great destination for young English footballers. We might miss out on this lad. But, I am still pleased with our business this month.
January is a tricky window, bringing in someone with the qualities of Luis Diaz is a great move for us. Maybe a few more out goings, Nat Phillips to Bournemouth, for instance, and we should be good to go till the summer.
1.) 31 Jan 2022 13:42:26
Nobody knows Mango just like with the Diaz move, let's wait till the windows shut buddy ;)
2.) 31 Jan 2022 13:55:27
if there not interested in us loaning him back, double the bid and get him now.
3.) 31 Jan 2022 13:56:05
I swear some just guess on these things, it's 50/ 50. He either will or won't. But if they strike lucky they claim their ITK.
So as its all these journos do my guess is origi to West ham by tomorrow morning.
4.) 31 Jan 2022 15:37:47
can see this going to the wire maybe £9 million and add on fulham want £15 million.
5.) 31 Jan 2022 15:08:16
Ed002 what would be Fulham's benefit to losing him to an international club for free? Would they get any sort of compensation? Just in my mind it makes more sense to take a fee now with a loan back agreement vs. losing him for nothing to a club on the continent? (Have I missed something though? )
{Ed002's Note - If he stays and helps them get promoted is a significant benefit.}
6.) 31 Jan 2022 18:33:10
Sorry Ed002 I meant letting him leave on a free in the summer vs. us buying and loaning him back now but appreciate the answer none the less. Hope you're having a good day.
{Ed002's Note - If that were the case then the advantage is for Liverpool in that they would get the jump on others and Fulham would get funds. The disadvantage for Liverpool is that they are spending money on a player who they will only get when he is available as a Free Agent.}
30 Jan 2022 14:39:48
Word going around that we are in negotiations to sign Fabio Carvalho for around 12 million from Fulham.
Julian Ward doing some serious work. Fair play.
1.) 30 Jan 2022 15:08:30
Impressive work. Luiz looks a very good footballer and Carvallho is one of the brightest English prospects out there. A quiet window (which is no bad thing) has suddenly turned into what is going to be a very very good one. And we’ve avoided both Traore and Dembele!
2.) 30 Jan 2022 15:13:37
It won’t be anything like £12m mate. He is out of contact in the summer.
3.) 30 Jan 2022 15:16:00
Would FSG commit to 12 mill knowing he’s free in 5 months time. Not sure many Club owners would. Especially with us being hit so hard with the C.V. and skint.
4.) 30 Jan 2022 15:18:12
Fulham only value u him at 5m I read that.
5.) 30 Jan 2022 15:24:16
5 million sounds a lot better, in terms of our investment.
When I heard people quoting 12, it did seem a little on the excessive side. But, just thought I would relay what I had heard :D.
6.) 30 Jan 2022 15:31:15
Ed002 might be the one to say am wrong but he is not a free transfer in the summer and it would go to a tribunal so we would be paying over £5m in my thoughts for him. I think it was about £4.5m for Elliott with a 20% sell on so if we sever sell him I bet Fulham would get more than £12m. So if Fulham get anywhere between £5 and £12m tribunal they are much better of keeping him so I definitely don’t think they would take £5m when the are in a promotion fight.
7.) 30 Jan 2022 15:45:05
Jesus it must be a good window if Viktors happy! ðŸ˜Doubt it'll be twelve but it'll probably be more than five sure they'd get at least that in a tribunal.
8.) 30 Jan 2022 15:26:13
Would he be free to us? Does it not go to a tribunal to set a fee if one can't be agreed?
{Ed002's Note - A training fee has to be paid.}
9.) 30 Jan 2022 16:15:39
Heard its a 5mill offer. probably some add on too. Hope gets over the line. He is a top top talent just like harvey.
10.) 30 Jan 2022 16:15:49
Would be strange, we don't really need him right now?
Fulham are pushing for promotion so won't want him to leave for cheap.
And he wouldn't be in the first team straight away would he? Feels like it'd make much more sense to pick him up in the summer. Unless maybe both Div and Mina are off?
11.) 30 Jan 2022 16:29:36
The smart thing to do would be to sign him up this window and remain at Fulham until the summer
With Milner leaving and potentially 1/ 2 more from midfield it does make sense especially him being English aswell
I know the Ed’s have previously mentioned we need to watch the hg quota in the past.
12.) 30 Jan 2022 16:29:46
Offer is £5m. If he wants to join us it will happen. Only question is if joins now or summer.
13.) 30 Jan 2022 16:57:08
Loan back to Fulham and comes to us in the summer. Will be a cracking bit of business and a great January window.
14.) 30 Jan 2022 18:41:45
@VVVV “A quiet window (which is no bad thing) …. â€
That wasn’t what a considerable number of people seemed to be saying leading up the the transfer window and in the window itself up to about midday last Thursday. Just saying 😉.
15.) 30 Jan 2022 18:51:59
With Fabio looking like a done deal and Luiz in the bag just Bissouma tomorrow and it will be a fair window.
16.) 30 Jan 2022 19:16:59
If the choice was a quiet window in January or signing Traore or Dembele WDW, I know what I’d prefer!
17.) 30 Jan 2022 20:18:06
We haven’t tried to sign either player VVVV. Just be happy with who we have signed.
31 Aug 2021 13:08:55
So, apparently Rhys Williams is leaving on loan to Swansea. If that is the case then I cannot see Phillips leaving in this window.
When you consider Van Dijk, Matip and Gomez's long term injury issues last season, not to mention Konate's issue with injuries himself, we need an able bodied player to fill in when needed, and give players a rest.
Cannot see any other activity taking place, however. Fingers crossed this does not bite us on the ass.
1.) 31 Aug 2021 13:17:27
I will be Happy if Phillips stays, we will need him. We need 5 cbs this season as you say.
2.) 31 Aug 2021 13:23:06
Good move for him.
I think we could still get away with Phillips leaving to be honest.
VVD, Matip, Gomez, Konate + Fabinho and youth CBs is plenty under normal circumstances!
3.) 31 Aug 2021 13:36:33
VVD seems to be much more robust, only we know Matip and Gomez are made of crisps. There is always a risk but life is a risk.
4.) 31 Aug 2021 13:42:52
Glad that it’s championship level and not league one or two. He showed that he can step up and hopefully the lad will have a great season.
5.) 31 Aug 2021 13:46:35
I like Nat and I would be happy for him to stay a while longer.
He did a solid job last season and I don’t think he would let us down if called on.
6.) 31 Aug 2021 13:59:43
I think to plan for all your centre backs to be injured because it happened once is over kill. If we do not suffer 3 injuries at the same time then there is a good chance Phillips won't get no game time.
7.) 31 Aug 2021 14:04:50
Apparently interest is growing in Nat Philips.
He may move yet.
8.) 31 Aug 2021 14:09:57
Matip and Gomez won’t last the season …that’s guaranteed. Phillips around would mean more weekly wages for FSG to pay …happy with that.
9.) 31 Aug 2021 14:36:19
We need at least 14 centre backs. If we don’t then what will we do if 12 of our centre backs get injured?
We also need those kind of centre backs that are worlds class but cheap and they must also not want to play, but be hungry and ready to play when we lose 12 centre backs.
10.) 31 Aug 2021 14:48:07
I think Phillips needs to go on loan to a Prem side if no offer to buy comes in. He can't even get on the bench at the moment. Keep his value up.
11.) 31 Aug 2021 15:23:39
To the post above regarding we have fabhino as cb cover too! Just no! Did u not see the effect of taking from Peter to feed Paul had on the middle! Fabs isn’t a cb I don’t care if he played there when he was 4!
12.) 31 Aug 2021 15:29:10
How many goals did Williams cause last year. very average at best sell him if anyone would buy him and keep Phillips. a good old fashioned centre half.
13.) 31 Aug 2021 16:16:15
I’m sure the club has worked out the fitness levels of our CBs to see what shape they are in and if they are likely to break down or not.
4 senior CBs of VVD, Konate, Matip and Gomez is extremely strong on paper. That’s 4 players who would start in the majority of teams in the prem. Philips isn’t getting a look in there.
14.) 31 Aug 2021 16:47:53
If Phillips wants to go then he's got every right and with our thanks bit I think players like him give a team some soul, don't know why, I'd be very happy to see him stay.
15.) 31 Aug 2021 17:01:21
Phillips has signed a long term contract, so can't see him going anywhere, unless it's a loan.
16.) 31 Aug 2021 17:04:36
Nat Phillips just signed a new deal.
17.) 31 Aug 2021 20:17:28
I’ve never heard so much negativity over a player signing a new contract! NP is never going to be as good as VVD, but he did a great job for us last year when he finally got a change and he fully deserves a good contract as without him last year we wouldn’t have got top 4.
18.) 31 Aug 2021 20:55:45
Why0Why, you had Kevin stitches with that one, man 🤣🤣🤣.
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23 Mar 2024 15:56:08
Been enjoying the legends match, so far.
Nice to know the Liverpool injury curse is not specific to our first team stars, but our legends as well. Because that needed to be a thing. And Aurelio too, who had nothing but bad luck with injury, great player though.
Always a good laugh these matches, to see your legends who you idolized and tried to replicate become far older men with big bellies and co-ordination I attribute to toddlers. Age is rarely kind. Although, seeing Skrtel trying to play out from the back, while racing towards a terrified Dudek, had me rolling.
On a genuinely heartwarming note, seeing the combinations between Gerrard and Torres, allowing me to reminisce about my own childhood and how big a part both were, was an unexpected but welcome period. And then Maxi doing his utmost to score every time he touches the ball, when both are in better positions bringing me back down to earth :P
Although, the highlight of all highlights had to be Jay Spearing getting absolutely cooked by a 70 year old man, I couldn't breath man. I swear he's still on our books too.
1.) 23 Mar 2024 16:43:37
I always find that in the legends games the more technically gifted players stand out, now that age has levelled the playing field to a degree in terms of fitness and pace.
Fowler, despite his "dimensions", has played well in quite a lot of legends games. Hyypia is standing out today.
2.) 23 Mar 2024 21:21:00
Apparently Daniel Agger hasn't played football since retiring, but didn't look rusty at all. If only he was able to stay fit when he was playing!
3.) 24 Mar 2024 19:23:25
Agger's body let him down badly, can't say I'm surprised he doesn't play outside of stuff like the legends games. I'm fairly sure he said that by the end of his time here he had to eat loads of painkillers to get through games, even when he was "fit".
He just wouldn't be able to take playing football regularly at any level.
22 Mar 2024 19:45:57
Obviously many of us have differing opinions when it comes to what is best for Liverpool Football Club, many of the discussion I have seen range from player ability, to staff and squad management, the ownerships influence or lack thereof, etc.
However, I think we are all aligned on one thing and that is that our Liverpool players get through this International period unscathed. If we are to make one final push for remaining prizes then we need as many players available and in fighting shape as possible. I honestly could not care less about performance, scoring exploits, just come back unharmed, please.
1.) 23 Mar 2024 09:10:08
Seconded.
2.) 23 Mar 2024 09:56:35
Thirded.
3.) 23 Mar 2024 10:13:54
Fourthed.
4.) 23 Mar 2024 13:52:16
100%.
Internationals in March are ludicrous. And even more so when they are friendlies.
If we get everyone fit (with the exception of Thiago and Matip), then we stand a really good chance of finishing the season strong.
5.) 24 Mar 2024 05:36:41
I think they use the international break to remind English football fans all about Gareth’s abilities. I really, really, REALLY hope that the rumours of Gareth replacing Seven are true - that would make me laugh a lot.
26 Feb 2024 13:34:31
I see a lot of players are, quite rightly, receiving praise for their performance and application on Sunday. Kelleher, superb. Endo, warrior. Van Dijk, imperious.
However, there was one player that really stood out for me when he came on. A youth player that I had heard of but not seen much of, who made Caicedo and Enzo look amateur by comparison. For me, James McConnell looked like the best midfielder on the pitch, the moment he came on.
I thought he was brilliant. He used the ball so well, knew when to retain possession and when to expand his play. Plus, took his yellow card smartly as, if he had not, with our numbers pushed up so high, we would have been in trouble. I was worried when Mac Allister went off, as I thought we would lose that control and necessary decision making. But boy did James turn up and take on the role with ease.
He recently signed a new contract too. So, Klopp clearly recognized the potential and I honesty wouldn't mind seeing more of him as he appears to have that high level calmness, unfazed by the occasion and simply gets to work.
Would love to see him on Wednesday, give him the full 90 to see what he is really capable of. I suspect the team, as a whole, will be comprised of youth players. We do need to rest legs, and while Southampton are a stern test, our focus should be on preserving as much quality for Saturday as we can. The injuries we have sustained have made that abundantly clear.
1.) 26 Feb 2024 14:18:36
LFC Mango, I thought James McConnell was outstanding in everything he did. Very good at receiving the ball under pressure (did you see him lost those two Chelsea players when VVD fizzed it into him? ), makes good decisions with the ball, never lost it and knows when to hold and release the ball.
The only thing I saw that he currently lacks, is to receive the ball and advance it up the pitch at pace. For me and for now, that's it. Apart from that, we got another one right hear, man.
2.) 26 Feb 2024 15:07:44
Mango, you may just get your wish to see McConnell start if Endo's injury or knock (according to the protective boot he was wearing after the game) turns out to be more than minor.
3.) 26 Feb 2024 15:55:47
ArAy1969, I look forward to that, man.
4.) 26 Feb 2024 19:37:02
Looked excellent. Very composed on the ball and didn't shy away from it at all.
None of the kids did shy away and thatsbwhat I'm most proud of. Bobby Clarke looked so strong holding players off as well.
26 Jan 2024 19:29:26
Still trying to get my head around the notion that Klopp will no longer be our manager next season. I knew he would leave, eventually, but never this soon, especially after he talked so enthusiastically about Liverpool 2.0.
The will be a lot that Liverpool and FSG will need to deal with now: A new manager, new coaching staff, new philosophy, new sporting director, new transfer targets, new standards to be set, expectations to be met, important contracts to be sorted, decisions to be made about those soon out of contract. There is so much to do for the incoming manager.
However, at least we have until June to get it right. We also have a strong squad, that is capable of competing on multiple front. From first team to youth academy, and the process between the two, appears strong. So, that is a relief.
Finally, will be interested to see what people think we need first: The Manager or the Sporting Director? Both will be expected to work in tandem, and I can see us getting the Sporting Director first to then help decide the new manager. That will be a massive decision.
Best of luck, no one can replace Klopp, but we can still move forward regardless.
1.) 26 Jan 2024 20:25:49
Mango. We have to get Xabi Alonso in ASAP. If we wait and mess around. Bayern Munich could sweep in and get him. Alonso first, then Sporting Director. Plus the CEO of Bayer Leverkusen has said today that - If a team (Liverpool) comes in for him, they will not stand in his way. Therefore initiate contact and get it wrapped up. Also, are we unable to multitask? We should be starting the process on both simultaneously.
2.) 26 Jan 2024 20:54:05
Alonso stop demanding LFC offer you that contact just now. Have a bit of patience :)
3.) 26 Jan 2024 21:06:59
Respectfully Andy. Mango asked a question on what I thought was an open forum, and I gave my opinion. I’m not demanding as I have now power to change anything. I’m just a fan like you, who received some
unexpected news. And wants to ensure, or should I say hopes the club gets in who I feel is the best candidate to become. Nothing more, nothing less.
4.) 26 Jan 2024 21:30:54
I think Andy’s bantering you Alonso mate in regards to your user name.
5.) 26 Jan 2024 21:35:32
Alonso, I think Andy is making a joke, given your user name!
6.) 26 Jan 2024 21:39:05
Personally I think alonso could very well come in. But let’s not derail their season just yet. I’d love to see him come out saying he’s no intention of focusing on anything but their championship challenge and kill the stories there. (But secretly be open to retaining the league with us next season) I’m not sure how good he is or how his style of football would work, but of all the candidates- he’d be my choice on feeling alone.
7.) 26 Jan 2024 21:45:24
Whoosh.
8.) 26 Jan 2024 22:03:53
It was tongue in cheek Alonso. A little bit of banter. Because you are called Alonso.
9.) 26 Jan 2024 22:33:16
Cheers guys. Have C.V.…. again ? So feeling like I have gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson. And evidently quite irritable. My bad Andy, completely miss read your post. All good bud ?.
10.) 26 Jan 2024 21:04:40
Yeah, Andyjh83. Alonso, I propose you focus on what you are doing at Leverkusen and let the LFC job come to you.
02 Jan 2024 01:10:47
Important win from the lads, soured by Gary Neville's innate need to listen to the sound of his own voice for a prolonged period, believing himself to be the voice of football. He really is a true politician, the thing he hates, supposedly, yet the thing he has become in recent times.
I mean, even when the video evidence proves him wrong, that does not not deter him from pushing forward with his opinion. But, rather than make a concise point on the subject, he will ramble on in hopes he actually makes a valid point by the end. Honestly, no idea how this guy can be considered a pundit. Especially after his period as a manager. That should have been the final nail in the coffin, but obviously connections trump intelligence when it comes to Sky Sports, etc.
Also, has any one noticed his bias towards people from England in the Premier League. An English player goes down under little contact, and it is smart or the touch made him lose his balance and, "You don't know what that is like, unless you have played, I know. "
But, when it is a foreign player, it is poor from them or we don't want to see diving at this level, they should know better. This was really noticeable for Salah's first penalty, with Neville calling Diaz a diver.
It is scarily contrasting, and I have noticed this with Neville far more than other pundits. I remember how often he made excuses for Harry Kane, but a foreigner, nah, straight for his throat, call him out as a diver, and yet the evidence later shows otherwise.
Think the man is **** and, if we can make his life that little bit worse, all for it. Plus, he will only do something charitable when it serves his purpose and reflects well on him in the media and public opinion.
1.) 02 Jan 2024 04:41:26
With respect, why does it matter so much what Neville says? As you said, it’s an opinion or rather, a perspective, nothing more. These are subjective and can easily be seen either way.
For the foreign vs British comparison. Absolutely. It happens in loads of different contexts in life.
2.) 02 Jan 2024 05:24:02
Neville is a total piece of sh1t ( and that is being insulting to sh1t) .
He just likes to make controversial statements in order to make himself relevant.
The less attention we pay to him the better our lives will be.
3.) 02 Jan 2024 07:05:36
Turn the TV down if it gets you so irritated ?♂️.
4.) 02 Jan 2024 08:25:51
He was in full bias mode last night. I think it might’ve hit home that Klopps second team is clicking and It scared him.
5.) 02 Jan 2024 09:07:49
They are all like that with English players though, not just Neville
On MOTD, I've heard Shearer, Linekar and Wright et al call the likes of Kane and Sterling 'clever' for blatant dives to win free kicks and penalties - foreign players are credited then with blatant dives/ not enough in that for me/ he's went down looking for that or we don't want to see that in the game
Its honestly amazing what the English players get away with - interestingly, Maguire got away with so much man handling in the box and this was never mentioned either.
6.) 02 Jan 2024 09:30:46
Indeed, Bill. The media has always been like that with the double standards with English players and if we all start to site examples, the Ed's would have to shut the site down due to the pages they will have to edit. I would not pay too much attention to such things cos it is who they are and what they do.
As for Neville, I propose people stop talking or paying attention to that weapon's grade hypocrite. The guy is just dangerous to my mental health due to his bitterness, delusions of grandeur and his useless sense of superiority. We won a banger of a game regardless of improvements still left to be made. Let's celebrate ALL that, man.
7.) 02 Jan 2024 09:56:36
@Bill - I still remember the time Garth Crooks put Henderson in his team of the week and then used most of the paragraph he wrote about Henderson's excellent TotW performance to complain about Salah going down under light contact and saying his captain needed to sort him out.
In the same article, he praised Callum Wilson for 'being clever' to 'draw contact' and win a penalty. They'd both put their body between the defender and ball and gone down when kicked. I'm sure the fact that Wilson's English and Salah's not had absolutely no bearing on Crooks' view that Wilson was being clever and Salah was cheating. It's not that I expect better, I suppose, but at least he could try being subtle and not so blatantly contradicting himself in the one article.
I really miss the old RTE punditry team of Giles, Brady and Dunphy. They'd come out with some proper mad stuff from time to time and Gilesy developed a tendency to ramble on about 'moral courage' in his later years, but at least there was significantly less pro-English bias from them.
8.) 02 Jan 2024 10:21:01
100% the more frustrating thing for me was yes Nunez was missing chances but he was pushing hard and still running all game which as Liverpool fans we love, every time Nunez had a chance and missed Neville was straight in on him calling him useless or anything else he does not do that with his own two up front in Hoijland or Rashford embarrassing.
9.) 02 Jan 2024 12:24:11
@Kloppers, someone must have forgotten to tell Neville that his beloved Utd went in for Darwin but got rejected. I bet you had he been plying for Utd and was doing what Hojlund is currently doing now, he would NEVER go in on him. He would be blaming the Glazers for all his travails in front of goal, on the contrary. The guy is just a delusional pity party to behold. Good Grief!
16 Feb 2024 19:37:14
Yeah, been confirmed. Alisson has done his hamstring, and is getting tests to see severity and length out.
Seriously, though, how does a Keeper do his hammy? Did he run to the rubbishter and pull it on the way, or what?
28 Oct 2023 19:16:34
I have to put my hands up and admit, the fans were right. Thiago is a much better influence behind the scenes than on the pitch, and his 200k a week, is in service to that. The fact he was injured in April, and is still missing, has allowed him to hone his craft as the mentor he was always supposed to be.
You can just see the influence he has had on Stefan Bajcetic. The youngster has learned the ways of the injury prone. Always good to seasoned veterans passing on what they have learned :P.
09 Jun 2023 19:35:34
One step forward, two steps back, in that case.
Fingers crossed this is not the case.
Relying on Matip, Gomez and Thiago to go a season without a long lay off with injury is simply asking for trouble. Matip and Gomez can't seem to handle the standard defensive practices in centre back, can't imagine how they will handle Konate's role if Konate was to get injured. It asks a lot of a player physically and mentally, and Konate is not exactly injury free.
Hopefully the club realises that we can not push Van Dijk week after week without rotation. He is soon to be 32, has played virtually every game when available to play, no rest or break given. Keeping Matip and Gomez, both, would show we have not learned our lesson. Gomez is the most likely to stay, of the two, due to the home grown quota.
Honestly, I would sell Matip for between 5-10 million, get his wages off the books and look for a suitable replacement. Micky Van Den Ven looks like he could fulfill the role, from the little I have seen. We can forget Gvardiol, etc. Van Den Ven would not be as expensive, and he has the pace to cover like Konate.
09 Jun 2023 02:54:25
Uma Thurman?
Can't blame Liverpool FC, she is quite the looker and a very NICE person ;)
08 Jun 2023 00:45:50
Tbf, I am pretty sure this is Sheikh Jassim's fourth take it or leave it offer for Man United. Don't think he quite understands what the means, considering he keeps coming back :P
But, I am sure this time, he means it.
100%.
02 Mar 2024 23:03:43
I remember watching this show, and another show where Michael Owen was a poster that regularly talked to some kid. Different times :P
I absolutely loved it when I was a kid, and even bought the book which showcased about 100 technical exercises. Now, as an adult, it is pretty obvious that Michael Owen didn't receive the right guidance growing up. It was all about him, the star, and he never once cared about anyone but himself.
Fairplay to Southall also, he gave good positive reinforcement throughout that finishing exercises, as he could see the young keeper was a little overwhelmed by the whole thing. Not helped with Owen embarrassing the kid at times.
Loved Owen as a kid, and he was the man that made me support Liverpool, after his goal against Argentina in 1998. In fact, I always wanted him to play instead of Fowler as he was younger and looked like me. It's not until the adulthood do you realize how amazing Fowler truly was.
Also, a bit ironic that the show was shot at Stoke City's home stadium, where Owen would eventually play his final games as a player. What a fall from grace.
08 Feb 2024 21:15:53
I'll be honest, I actually like the new rules. Professionalism, etc, has needed to be enforced for a long time to the benefit of the game and the younger generation.
However, I completely understand the other side. The fact we are giving referees even more power, when they have been shown incapable to wield it, is concerning.
Honestly, wish this was a thing in grassroots, I am sick and tired of listening to players complain, backtalk and have a go at referees. As for coaches, lost cause and I have long since given up telling these supposed adults to show respect and conduct themselves properly for not just their sake, but for the kids they are coaching.
30 Sep 2023 08:29:27
Ah, yes, modern day slavery, I concur.
As described in the Modern English Dictionary, 'Starved workers, whose rights are stripped from them, passports kept from them illegally, and forced to kick a round football around a much too big pitch to the enjoyment of millions, while earning millions themselves for doing so. '
My hearts bleed for them.
{Ed001's Note - you have more than one heart? Wow.}
07 Aug 2023 08:18:48
60-70 million!?!?!?
For our most creative and lethal player in the team!?!? Who do we buy to replace his contributions for 60 million!?!? There's certainly no one in our team, with his end product, consistency or availability. I also can't see 60 million covering a top midfielder and defender, it would only supply us with enough for one of those. And even then, we would probably have to spend more on top. That is the market now, everything is inflated, for everyone.
I also can't see anyone currently capable of replacing Salah's contributions in world football, not available at least, and especially not for the money described. We are fortunate to have a player of this quality, he can be relied upon to get us the goals we need. Has proven it season after season, no matter what is happening around him.
We need to keep Salah, during this period of transition, then consider his sale next season right as the transfer window starts to allow us to prepare properly. We can't have a repeat of this mess we are currently experiencing, where everything is happening too slowly, and the season is immediately upon us. We need to plan, for once, and be proactive instead of reactive.
Salah could also encourage a bidding war from Saudi Clubs desperate to get a hero from the middle east. We should be looking for 100+ million when we do sell. I suspect a lot of Saudi Clubs will pay over the odds to win the race, he will become the figurehead of the Saudi League when he does arrive, someone middle eastern fans can connect with and inspire to be as he is one of their own.
01 Aug 2023 04:41:49
You know, I have been wondering this myself too. It feels like the transition from player to coach should be seamless, due to the environment they were brought up in, having a mixture of managers with different strengths and weaknesses that they can learn of off. Not to mention the personalities of the players mentioned, many of whom were real leaders that set standards of practice throughout their tenure as a player.
I do wonder if it is a mindset thing. Where, as a player, especially a youngster breaking through, it was about displacing a teammate to take their spot. The onus was very much about individual progression to ensure you could fit into the team dynamic, from youngster to professional. That was a constant mindset.
Then, when you become the manager, the focus shifts from individual to team based. You have to consider so many more variables, variables you are not in control of and can only affect marginally. Instead, you have to place trust in players to be able to meet your expectations in the short and/ or long term. Having patience which, in the managerial profession, is seldom given by decision makers at the club.
This is just my thoughts as a coach myself, I found the transition from player to coach really difficult and frustrating. I knew what I wanted, what I was capable of, and when my players struggled to reach that, I did not have the experience or intelligence to adapt to meet their needs.
Great question, by the way. I will be interested to hear ED001's response, as well as others in the forum.