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31 Aug 2017 20:32:37
Ryan Kent has gone out on loan to Freiburg. Decent move. Hopefully he gets some game time.




05 Jun 2017 17:49:56
According to Graeme Kelly, the man who has been committed in his belief that Van Dijk would join us, all the way back to January, believes he knows the transfer structure of the deal.

Apparently, Van Dijk will cost £44 million and 8 million add ons (The add on being that we win the Premier League)

Not sure how true this is, but for me, the deal sounds like it is good for all parties. I still think 50 million plus for a centre back is over the top, but to buy quality sometimes you have to overspend. Hopefully he can shut me down and humiliate me by putting in some good performances.

Also, I think Joe Gomez's time at Liverpool is done. With Van Dijk starting, and hell, even Klavan ahead of him in the pecking order, Joe will have no choice but to leave to pursue first team football. A shame because I think the boy could be something special, if given time. I really hope he leaves on a loan but, with the money spent, and interest in him, I think the move will be permanent.


1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:06:43
Man I hope to god we end up paying £52 million for Dick Van Dyke!

2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:07:17
Think we'll loan Joe out from what the Ed's have said. Hopefully he has a good spell somewhere, comes back next summer and we sell Klavan.

3.) 05 Jun 2017 18:07:41
Both Sakho and Gomez will bring us some serious cash.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 18:18:08
If those figures are reasonably close then I think it's a brilliant deal. Expensive but so much better than what we already have and with scope for improvement at his age. Considering we should get a decent amount if we sell sakho and considering stones went for 50m last year,50 odd million seems par for the course for a good player in this summers market.

5.) 05 Jun 2017 18:23:15
Could klopp be thinking of using Gomes at either full back position? I'm sure he played RB for one of the England squads? Scored a beauty from there as well I seem to remember.

6.) 05 Jun 2017 18:39:17
Klavan or Gomez?

I know which player I'd be keeping.



30 May 2017 14:45:24
Very happy with the signing of Dominic Solanke. He is a deadly finisher, broken all kinds of records at youth level, and could really benefit from developing in our U23 squad before being moved up. Also, 2-3 million for a quality youth player who Mourinho has previously ear marked to be a big player for Chelsea and England, to the point that he said if Solanke didn't make the first team that it would be down to his, Mourinho's fault. Huge praise from a man who rarely gives it.

However, there does seem to be a down side to potential signings today. And that is that it looks like Ryan Sessegnon will be moving to Tottenham instead of us. The boy wants to stay in London, apparently, and fair play to the lad. Tottenham is a fantastic place for youngsters to develop and be given opportunities, unlike teams like Chelsea, City and United. So Sessegnon is clealy not moving to Tottenham for the money, he is moving because of further development and opportunities. A shame, as I think the lad had tremendous ability for someone his age, but we move on. Simple as that.




07 Jul 2016 11:59:47
So it looks like Jordan Ibe really is leaving for Bournemouth, and for the reported 15 million too. In all honesty I think this is a good deal all round. Ibe needs to play more regularly and I think Bournemouth might be a great place to ply his trade. Best of luck to the lad, I wish nothing but the best for him.

Also, before people starting jumping on the 'we need a replacement' 'we need a costly replacement now' bandwagon. I have to admit, i don't think it is entirely necessary. Ibe was on the fringes of the squad after all, not a regular starter under Klopp.

So, rather than spend money to replace Ibe. why not give Sheyi Ojo the chance to push for the position. The lad is young, already contributed with a number of assists last season and looks like he would be up to challenge for a place.

We don't always need to go out and sign players the moment one leaves. We have several capable youngsters who can step in, Branagan and Ojo are at the top of my personal list along with Stewart.

And for all those people who say they are not good enough. look at Harry Kane as a prime example, struggled on loan but has scored 20 plus goals in the last two seasons. All Kane needed was a chance, just one chance to prove his worth and he delivered big time. If he had not then I am sure Tottenham would be lugged with an expensive signing who didn't have the consistency to play at the top of his game, ala Soldado.

Just my thoughts guys, I do wonder how many of you actually share my opinion on this though. After all, we could use the 15 million in areas we need to improve, ala left back.

Anyway, I hope the EDs are having a pleasant day and that all us fans - Yes, even you Harry - are having one equally as good.



1.) 07 Jul 2016 12:09:25
Good post. I am actually quite sad to see Ibe leave, because we all had high hopes for him, but it seems things did not work out - and he did get a chance last season, unlike many youths simply pushed into the fringes - so the deal seems good for all parties involved. Replacing him would be a bit silly, since we already got Mane in as a starter and Ojo looks like the better rated talent currently. Not to mention the Coric rumours, and Marcovic still being part of the club and perhaps getting a chance in pre-season.

2.) 07 Jul 2016 12:26:18
I agree, good post Mango. Let him go and we don't need to replace fringe players. Use our youth development, Klopp knows what he is doing. Ibe looked lost going forward for us, hope he does and wish him all the best.

3.) 07 Jul 2016 12:27:43
Good post. Shame about Ibe, he will be making the right move and under Howe who knows how far he'll go?

4.) 07 Jul 2016 12:28:54
If it's true and we get 15mln for him then it's a good deal for all parties. He gets game time and a chance to develop, we get a very good sum for reinvestment into areas where we lack (LB) and we have capable junior replacements in Markovic and/ or Ojo that hopefully get a real chance to step up with proper game time.

5.) 07 Jul 2016 12:37:27
Hope he rips it up at Bournemouth good luck to the lad, needs game time. and we need to spend the cash on Hector, I'm sure klopp will read this and think, good idea lad.

6.) 07 Jul 2016 12:47:22
Bid for hector soon then.

7.) 07 Jul 2016 13:01:48
That's exactly why you play the kids. You either get a first team player or a nice transfer fee.

Always lock them into contracts because there is always someone to sell to.

Sometimes they won't sign which is fair dos bur tour hardly going to get burnt with first pro contracts.

Ibe moves on with all the best wishes, we get 15 mil for the coffers and we now out focus on another kid, maybe ojo. Give him a season and see how he does and a kid that age with potential regardless of form for us will fetch another ten mil next year easy peasy. Then move on to the next one until you find one that is good enough fir us.

If you want to keep them but don't want to have a hand in the development then sell then with buy back options. You won't make near enough money in but you won't get biten on the ass when said player becomes ballon sore winner haha

Good luck ibey lad. No hattricks against us though.

8.) 07 Jul 2016 12:51:06
I sincerely hope we put in a buy-back clause if indeed he does leave the club this summer. He's still a young lad and learning his trade. Can't help thinking we're letting him go a little too early.

{Ed002's Note - Why the sudden obsession with buy back clauses? I am not sure Liverpool can start to look to reduce their asking prices by doing such things.}

9.) 07 Jul 2016 13:14:59
Do we not already have a replacement for him in the form of Saido Mane'? This nets this deal back to circa £15m which is perhaps commercially more of what you would of expected.

Good luck Ibe, unfortunately just didn't live up to expectations!

10.) 07 Jul 2016 13:17:56
A buy back clause is not just something you put in there for fun or to look smart. You have to have a real plan behind it like Bayern for example, had with Lahm, Kroos, Alaba and Can (who we had to match his buy back fee to sign) . The sudden LFC fans` obsession with buy back clauses makes no sense, IMO.

11.) 07 Jul 2016 13:19:39
There is no need for buy back clauses, if the lad becomes good enough we will spend the money to buy him back. As ed has said it would reduce the fee and we have sold him. What makes anyone think he would want to come back to us. Morata is a special case, forget about buy backs.
Best of luck to Ibe, he has potential but as has been said he looked completely lost any time he played last year. He had a decent spell under Rodgers but I'm not sure he has the game intelligence to use all the pace and power he possesses.

12.) 07 Jul 2016 13:52:03
I think its the emergence of ojo that has pushed this deal through. It is clear neither ibe or ojo will be a starter this season, so there is only space for one on the bench in reality.
Ojo shows a lot of promise so ibe has been moved on to give him a chance.

13.) 07 Jul 2016 14:06:21
I agree that it was time for Ibe to move on, and I think the fee is one that we can be happy with. £15m for a player who got his chance but failed to live up to expectation is fine with me. Good luck to the lad, but was time for him to move on.

I don't agree with the people saying we don't need to replace him though. Yes we got Mane, but Ibe was the only wide man we had. Mane can play out wide but he's not an out and out winger. We have a couple of good options up front and also in the "Creative Midfielder/ Number 10" roles but we don't have any pacey wide men.

Sure we have Ojo but I don't think we can expect a 19yr old to be the only option we have out wide. We need more pace and someone who can actually put a decent ball into the box.

14.) 07 Jul 2016 14:46:29
Has he actually signed yet. just says fee agreed. don't run before you can walk.

15.) 07 Jul 2016 15:25:36
Did yous not know the buy-back clause is the new black?
Just because it's being talked about as part of the Canos sale now people want it included in every single deal.
Maybe Skrtel will have a 10/ 11 type season at Fener.
Quick! Insert a buy-back clause!

Really, 15mil is a great deal for such an unproven player. Ibe is all potential. Still, I'll be sorry to see him go. I could watch his goal against WB a thousand times. Always fun to watch 3 Pulis poles hit the deck like that. :)

16.) 07 Jul 2016 16:00:27
im thinking this is the reason we signed Mane because the club was in talks to sell Ibe, it makes sense one in one out so as others have said there's no reason to go out and buy a player as imo we already have done, good luck to Jordan he will show what he is about its a pity he never got a run out with us because i'm sure his potential would have turned into talent, so good luck to him and Skertal i hope they do well in their new clubs.

17.) 07 Jul 2016 16:34:59
NorRed, you don`t replace fringe players with players that won`t play. That is senseless especially if you are trying to reduce a bloated squad like we have. We have options on the right (Mane, Milner and Lallana) so adding another player will make it 4 options and that is why we don`t need to replace him.

18.) 07 Jul 2016 17:50:26
All the best to Ibe. Hope he develops and fulfills the early potential that he showed. Playing regularly will always help.


19.) 07 Jul 2016 20:36:34
Don't forget Liverpool don't get 15mil for Ibe, they get just over 12mil as Wycomb get a percentage.

20.) 07 Jul 2016 23:20:20
Good luck to Ibe. He wasn't good enough and never will be. I wish him well for his future.

21.) 08 Jul 2016 05:11:36
RedOhio, I agree you shouldn't replace fringe players with ones that don't play. I think he should be replaced with a better standard of player. What good is selling players and reducing the squad if all we are left with is the players we had last season. We need to improve, we should be aiming to finish top four and with the other teams competing for those places improving we need to as well, not just trimming the fat.

Klopp will improve players the players we already have but he can't turn Milner into Messi.

I don't agree with you that lallana is a wide player though. Sure he can play there but that's not his natural position and he still doesn't add any pace to the side (which I feel we lack, other than sturridge who do we have right now? ) I think he can do a job for us but he shouldn't be starting week in week out as a wide player. Mane I agree is an option but Milner shouldn't be in the starting lineup.

22.) 08 Jul 2016 12:19:01
£15m for a guy who is still unproven, a big gamble and the question appears to be ability to deliver on his potential is a very good return. I hope he does well because he seems a likeable lad and has potential but it also seems like he isn't going to move on more with us.

23.) 09 Jul 2016 15:13:23
NorRed, I agree with you completely on Milner and Lallana. I say in fact, I wouldn`t mind if they got sold because if they are not playing and should be on the bench as you say, their wages alone will count as what we call Dead money meaning, money that isn`t working for you. If the players on stupid wages aren`t playing regularly then they should be off the books and let another club deal with them.



31 May 2016 22:52:57
The Italian media seems to think we have signed Samuel Bastien from Anderlecht for between 4.6 million and 6 million, do you know anything about this E. D?

At first I thought it was lazy journalism, a writer trying to trick people into reading his story, but the player isn't someone who would bring in views. He is a relative unknown, at least to me, and I can't recall ever seeing his name being linked with us before.

Bastien, if he signs, would clearly be one for the future as, according to the same article, he wouls be loaned out immediately after joining us. Ala Divock Origi.

Anyway, wondering if you are aware of this or even know the player because I know absolutely nothing about him. Best wishes to all of you and I hope you have a restful few weeks before the transfer window finally opens :D.


1.) 01 Jun 2016 08:21:36
He was playing in Serie B this season apprently.

2.) 01 Jun 2016 11:41:08
Labled the 2nd De Bryne no less. I guess this is the way now, rather then the next (insert former worldy here), it's now 'the second coming'.

Anyway, seems this could be an 'under radar' CAM over both Coric and Gotze. At 19/ 20 he can hardly be 'one for the future' looking at the age of some first team players.

This is Klopps way right? Sign young unknown players from lower sides or leagues and then create. We might see Gotze etc as 'a smokescreen', when in actual fact it's Bastian, Chilwell, Karius and a like.

I've highlighted most football clichés, but feel free to add more :)




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18 May 2019 16:47:49
Hi EDs

Sorry to hear about the issues you've been having but I'm oddly happy as it will allow me to personally contribute to a site that has been both informative and entertaining thanks to the posters and yourselves.

I pay for Sky at the moment, I know, sinful, but I am always frustrated by the service it provides. I would go elsewhere but my contract is complicated. It's good to know I will finally be paying for something worthwhile and meaningful for a change. I get paid on the first btw, so that is when I will be making my first donation. I hope this will help even in minor way.

Leaving that aside for now, I wanted to ask you a question about Liverpools youth rather than anything based around transfers in and out. I've heard a lot of talk about Adam Lewis and Rhian Brewster receiving potential opportunities to fight for a place in the first team. I was wondering about the clubs opinion on them was for next season?

I like the look of Adam Lewis, in particular, and it would be nice to see another Liverpool product be in the match day squad, even as a sub. Rhian, I suspect, will find chances limited due to how vital Firmino is to the way we play.

Also, are there any other players that the club are looking a from within to improve the squad in a year or two. Players like Curtis Jones, Hoever, etc. Would love to get your opinion on the players I have listed and maybe others I was no aware of as my knowledge of Liverpools youth system is very limited and I suspect you will have greater knowledge in this department.

Apologies if this message is long winded or incoherent but I have spent the last five hours working on my Project for FA Level Two Coaching and couldn't help but wonder about this topic.

All the best and I would like to thank you and the posters for making this site a fountain of knowledge, imagination and enjoyment.



{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, I really appreciate that.

As for the youth, it is most likely that they will be loaned out rather than getting a chance in the first team next season. There is no one seen as on the verge of a breakthrough right now, with the possible exception of Wilson. A lot will depend on who goes/comes in the transfer window and what offers come in for youth players too, as they don't just want to send them to any old club.

Brewster is seen as part of the first team squad now, Wilson will get a shot in pre-season to earn a slot in there too.}

1.) 18 May 2019 17:15:23
Think it also depends on who is sold and signed in the summer, wether players like Wilson get a chance.

2.) 18 May 2019 17:52:46
What sort of player is Brewster? Anyone you can compare him to in style - speed merchant, scores from crosses, good in the air etc?

3.) 18 May 2019 18:11:45
I have seen very little of Brewster but don’t think he’s an arial threat, he’s not big or that strong. Quick enough, good finisher.

4.) 18 May 2019 19:27:22
Ed can you give us your opinion on Brewster? Strengths/ weaknesses.

What your expectations are of him for next season


{Ed001's Note - there can be no expectations of him, he is recovering from a long term injury. As for strengths and weaknesses, I have not seen enough of him to judge.}

5.) 18 May 2019 20:18:02
Ive watched Brewster a lot. Prior to his injury. He is an intelligent striker. Makes great runs which on occasion can pull 2+ defenders out of position. Has a cool finish in his locker aswell as tricks and skills. All of this has been at youth level but he is obviously aware that creating space for others is as important as finding space for himself. I can't see him operating from a wide position, but hope I'm proved wrong on that. I assume he has, when fit, been training in the current first team philosophy. I believe we can keep the cheque book closed with him and Origi ready to deputise. Some full back cover and midfield replacements for any outgoing and I think we will be OK.

6.) 19 May 2019 03:52:03
I still want us to sign a senior full back that can cover for both Robbo and TAA when needed. Not sure throwing Adam Lewis or Ki Jana in to the deep end when there is a possibility that we will need to win 99% of our games next season to win the league is a good idea. Get in someone like Ricardo or Kenny Lala and send Lewis out on loan.
Brewster seems to be a different kettle of fish the way Klopp has treated him. Clearly Klopp sees him as a generational talent and he will likely be an understudy to Bobby. WE still need a versatile forward on top of that though. DEpay seems the latest to be doing the rounds after the Brandt snub. Wouldn't be a bad option to have imo.

7.) 19 May 2019 04:13:04
From what I’ve seen, his game is based around being a good finisher and good movement. Plays mostly off the shoulder rather than being a classic physical CF, and he pops up in dangerous positions in the box due to reading the game well.

I’d say his style is more like an Aguero type player - without the quality yet of course.

8.) 19 May 2019 14:41:49
Also I'm sure there are new loan rules coming into play possibly this season oraybe next where basically they limit the amount of players a team can have out on loan so the likes of Chelsea and juventus can't have around 50 and 80 players out on loan each there's others too no doubt but these are the two I know. Perhaps Liverpool may also have to sell loaned out players to keep the ones they really need to.



15 Jan 2019 12:38:35
Trent out for a month, looks like he was playing through the pain barrier against Brighton and paid massively for it.

Troubling as he was our last, consistent, right back in the team after Clyne left. I'm guessing Milner or Fabinho will be forced to move from their respective positions and fill in during Trent's absence.

The sudden rush of defensive injuries recently has been seriously troubling. Lovren, Matip and Lovren have all picked up annoying injuries, unsurprising as they have a tendancy to pick up injuries at the worst possible times. And now Trent will be missing too.

I fear this could seriously derail Liverpool's push for the title. Man City have had a number of injuries, earlier to the mid point of the season, of varying severity, but they look to have come out of it much stronger now that those players are now fully healed (I. e. De Bruyne, Mendy, Aguero, Fernandinho and D. Silva. )

I guess it's our turn to show what we can do under the same circumstances.

Fingers crossed all goes well over the coming weeks.


1.) 15 Jan 2019 12:58:05
Don't worry about it mate, we'll plod on. Crap news though but we'll be alright, I have no doubts about it.

2.) 15 Jan 2019 13:29:46
Fabinho plays as Right Full Back for Brazil!
Milner played there too!
Maybe Henderson can play there too!

3.) 15 Jan 2019 13:38:33
Is Connor Randall still on our books?

4.) 15 Jan 2019 14:20:43
It is worrying, got to wonder what we'll line up like against Bayern!
we'll see how many drops we drop in the next month I guess. I would say it definitely decreases our probability to win the league.

5.) 15 Jan 2019 14:36:34
For goodness sake, get a grip lads! We have ample short-term cover for right back (Milner, Fab), Matip is fit and Gomez will be back soon. Our next three PL games are Crystal Palace and Leicester at home and West Ham away. Our squad is well capable of dealing with this latest injury. Our chances of winning the PL are hardly affected at all.

6.) 15 Jan 2019 15:35:30
Wirral Wonder - Crystal Palace and Leicester both beat City away. Your post seems to indicate these games are gimmees. Do you really believe that?

7.) 15 Jan 2019 16:04:05
Crystal Palace and Leicester both have pace merchants on the counter.
Just what we didn’t need.
There’s no way I want to see Fabinho at RB against those two sides.
Zaha and Vardy, oh no.

8.) 15 Jan 2019 16:07:50
Wasn’t it only 2 weeks ago I was hearing on here how Lovren and Trent are liabilities and need replacing but now they’re injured the world’s falling apart.
Stop panicking we’ve got more than enough quality to cope.

9.) 15 Jan 2019 16:14:02
Unbelievable most fans wanted Clyne gone, now saying was a mistake to let him go. Come on we are more than fine. All of

And possibly Henderson can cover right back. Point is even though his injury isn’t at the best time we are more than covered. I would rather see at least one of Milner, Fabinho or Hoever play there rather than Clyne anyway.

10.) 15 Jan 2019 16:15:07
KBL, not at all, all our opponents are worthy of respect. But so far this season we have not dropped a single point against a team from outside the current Top 5 in the PL having played 16 and won 16. I am simply suggesting that we are very far from an injury crisis and that we should have confidence in our squad to win our next 3 games.
Incidentally, Leicester beat City at the King Power Stadium although they did also beat Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.

11.) 15 Jan 2019 17:50:47
Wirral Wonder - I stand corrected the Leicester win was at the King Power. One of the problems I see is that when we have so many defenders out at the same time we then have to pull back a midfielder which also disrupts that part of our game. I know Fabihno can play at right back, but it is still a concern for me.

We need to get past Crystal Palace and Leicester and then we have an 11 day break after which Gomez could be back.

12.) 15 Jan 2019 19:47:23
KBL, nobody is disrespecting anyone. I mean, if that was the case, do you think we would be where we are? We don't need to be reminded that Leicester and CP beat City in order to respect them. They deserve respect regardless. I support WW here. Get a grip. There is NO injury crisis as of now.

We have enuff cover at RB with Milner and Fab and for people saying they have fast forwards, which one of their forwards is faster than Aubameyang? NONE of them and we shut him down. Chill out, man. Our boys will be back as Matip is already back in training which could allow Milner to play RB and Fab can play in midfield to protect the defenders. Please, people need stop with unnecessary mounting of pressure for no reason which does nothing but raise people's blood pressure. If anything, we need positivity and calmer heads here from now till the end of the season.



07 Jan 2019 21:59:31
And this is exactly the reason why I said Lovren should be given a break. Not due to exhaustion or over playing but because he is incredibly injury prone. Coupled with the fact he is a poor defender to begin with further compounds the situation.

I thought we were poor tonight. Our second string showed absolutely no heart, no desire, no fight whatsoever.

Thank god for Alisson is all I can say. Thank god, or whoever you believe in, that Mignolet will no longer be a Liverpool season by next year.

Thank god for Robertson. If not for him then imagine Moreno as our left back playing on a regular basis. The lad tries at least but he does not possess a single brain cell. How he became a footballer. I will never know.

Sturridge too needs to go. He is well past it. Let him see out his contract and do nothing more. No new contract, not even a massive wage reduction because he offers nothing. Nothing whatsoever.

Out of the youngsters I was honestly most impressed by Ki-Jana Hoever. Jones and Camacho didn't look comfortable, not surprising when you consider the players around them. Unfair to judge them as they were kind of thrown to the wolves (literally) by Klopp.

The only way we can turn this into a positive is by winning the Premier League or Champions League which will be a monumental task. Otherwise we will look back at this game and think what could have been. Another seen without a trophy, after the amount of money that has been spent, will not look good. Not good at all.

Hopefully Lovren is not seriously injured because we really cannot afford to have one recognised centre back at this point in the season. Matip and Gomez have a long way to go and have picked up numerous injuries. Otherwise. we are going to be in for a rocky few weeks.

Fingers crossed this result does not affect our confidence and performances, especially considering the Man City result on top of this. We are still very much in the driving seat and, with our first 11, I believe we can do something special. I just pray that no first team player gets injured because otherwise players from the side who played today will have to take their place and they are simply not good enough.


1.) 07 Jan 2019 22:08:15
Why have we got to rest Allisson!

{Ed0333's Note - because Klopp wanted to show the world that mugs can now play out of the back but still can’t make any worthwhile saves.

2.) 07 Jan 2019 22:10:36
Agree with all that.

3.) 07 Jan 2019 22:17:02
I have to agree with you on Sturridge there. It was so painful to watch him today. He doesn't make runs, can't hold up the ball and bring others into play, can't dribble, and can't even pass.

I dread the thought of any member of our first 11 getting injured.

Also Keita's display doesn't fill me with hope.

But on the bright side, I was very impressed by young Hoover. And also Fabinho did a decent job at CB.

4.) 07 Jan 2019 22:13:31
Someone is panicking!

5.) 07 Jan 2019 22:24:37
Felt sorry for the young players least they shown pride and passion unlike the rest.

6.) 07 Jan 2019 22:20:17
Spot on, Ed0333. Mig is even worse than I thought or maybe I forgot how useless he was. He was hugely at fault for the second goal. Look at it from behind the goal. His feet are firmly planted to the ground and does not eve shift them to won side to see the shot with bodies in front of him. He stands there, the shot comes and he did not see it. He then dives for it in hope, trying to elevate from his feet planted to the ground hence, trying to defy the laws of gravity.

As for the game, it seems like we considered the game an inconvenience and some of the senior players like Moreno (shocking, I know) Shaq and Studge (we might as well have been playing with 10 men as he was a ghost all night) played like it. Just hope Lovs will be fine for Brighton.

{Ed0333's Note - this why we rest Allison because heaven forbid Becker tweaks his groin performing coitus with his stunning wife Natalia then Mugs is the understudy. I agree mate to many of the senior players didn’t turn up. I was shocked at how poor some of the, were to be honest.

7.) 07 Jan 2019 22:31:31
I might be way off here but migs played for a bit of game time, if Allison is injured he is our deputy.
I am all for playing our first 11 week in week out but it’s a squad game and that needs managing. Would be demoralising for migs if he never gets a run out.

8.) 07 Jan 2019 22:31:53
If Lovren is such a poor defender why are you bothered he’s injured? For me he’s a decent 3rd/ 4th choice and next to VVD has looked more than capable.

9.) 07 Jan 2019 22:27:29
If Lovren crocked Hoever might get a shot alongside VVD.
Virgil has helped make Matip and Lovren look decent this season so I see no reason he couldn’t do that for a kid that impressed in a back four that contained a midfielder a brain fart and another kid.

10.) 07 Jan 2019 22:30:04
As a makeshift I think VVD and Fabinho can manage the next few games, if lovren's injury is more than just a twinge. However if he was me in charge, I would do whatever it took to sign a decent centre half, just in case something happened to VVD, because that would be catastrophic to our chances of winning the league.

11.) 07 Jan 2019 22:39:53
Are there any takers for Migs? If so I REEEEAAAAALLLLY hope they wern't watching tonight.

{Ed0333's Note - Andrea Bocelli was scouting Mignolet for his beloved Juventus and even he wasn’t impressed.

12.) 07 Jan 2019 22:55:10
LFC Mango, can't argue with anything you said.

13.) 07 Jan 2019 22:57:04
Our local glue factory would take Migs the Mule.

14.) 07 Jan 2019 23:38:50
Well said LFC Mango.

15.) 08 Jan 2019 11:14:58
Well Ed0333 as Andrea Bocelli once sang so beautifully “Time to say goodbye”.

{Ed0333's Note - goodbye is hopefully sooner rather than later



17 Dec 2018 11:19:20
Liverpool vs Bayern Munich!

Bring it on!

I was hoping for Real Madrid but screw it. We can just defeat the German League Champions instead.


1.) 17 Dec 2018 11:28:29
Watched them a few times this season not the team they were they concede goals they will be more worried about us watched the 3.3 draw with Ajax last week there defence was a shambles. confedent we'll go through.



17 Dec 2018 10:08:27
I have to say it was a very commanding and dominating performance yesterday. Man United look devoid of ideas, belief and any kind of hope at the moment. I have never seen such a one sided affair against the two sides, United looked like a mid table side throughout.

Now, I could talk about the difference between the two sides, the perfomances of our players (Especially Fabinho, Firmino and Robertson) but there was one thing, one small thing, that annoyed and frustrated me throughout the match.

And it had nothing to do with either side. The thing that really pissed me off was listening to Martin Tyler and Gary Neville commentate over the match.

I have never heard so much biase in all my life. Before the 2nd Liverpool goal both Martin Tyler and Gary Neville were applauding United's park the bus strategy, talking about how Liverpool were taking numerous long shots and nothing else (Which was a complete and utter fabrication) .

Now, I mean no offense, but how can you complain about Liverpool's long shots and ignore the fact that United had about two shots in that second half, one of them involving Fellaini hitting a steward sat beside the corner flag.

Throughout the game Martin Tyler, in particular, was making snide little comments about Liverpool and, when we finally scored, the response from Tyler was mute, full of long stretches of silence that Carragher had to fill to stop things becoming awkward.

Now, I understand Neville's biase, being a former player, and he wouldn't comment on any of our goal, but what is Martin Tyler's problem? He is supposed to be the balance for Gary's biase but, at times, it felt like Neville was less affected by the scoreline then Martin Tyler.

It did my goddamn head in. Yes, Martin Tyler and Gary Neville concluded the match with talking about Liverpool's dominance but, before it, you would have thought Liverpool were the poorer side.

Is it just me ED or does Martin Tyler genuinely hate Liverpool because every time I have been forced to listen to him his reaction to a liverpool goal has been mute and his reaction to us conceding has been the sound of pure jubilation.


{Ed001's Note - no idea, don't have a clue or care about the morons they use to commentate to be honest.}

1.) 17 Dec 2018 12:17:17
Put it this way Mango, Martin Tyler is pro United and has been since the early 90’s mate. And as for Neville. I don’t need to say anymore.

Take no notice mate, Ed 1 is correct, he’s a complete moron.

2.) 17 Dec 2018 13:23:06
I bet there was silnence in howard webbs household after the second went in too!

3.) 17 Dec 2018 18:58:17
It could be good, old fashioned Scouse paranoia but I see and hear, if not anti Liverpool bias, then a definite media reluctance to give us due credit for our Premier League performances this season. As just one example, only last weekend, after Chelsea beat Manchester City the BT Sport presenter closed their coverage by saying “So Liverpool are top of the Premier League, courtesy of Chelsea”. Not courtesy of having amassed more points than City but courtesy of Chelsea. Typical.

4.) 18 Dec 2018 08:32:31
And i'm sure at one point Martin Tyler called our very own Big Shaq chunky! How dare he!




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19 Jun 2019 21:43:01
Two words.

. Emre Can.




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12 Jun 2019 14:23:21
Lovren is valued at 25 million apparently. And, if I remember correctly, AC Milan are in a poor financial situation. I don't see this happening.

Lovren is a capable 3rd or 4th option and I suspect he would be happy to be used as such for at least a season. He seems to really like Liverpool, is close friends with a number of players (Particualrly Salah) and is coming off a Champions League winning season. I doubt there would be much reason to leave.

If he does go, who would be an adequate replacement? They would need to be prepared to wait on the sides, while Matip, Gomez and Van Dijk stand ahead of the queue for those two spots. Fry, possible, but it would do little for his career. Fry needs to be playing games, not sitting on the bench of a top team, watching his career wither away.

If Lovren does leave then, ideally, we would need to target someone older, whose prepared to train hard but with full knowledge that they may be used sparingly.

Personally, I hope Lovren stays. Decent player who just needs to overcome these constant injuries, similar to Gomez.




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03 Jun 2019 19:29:18
Interesting that you said fullbacks and not fullback.

Obviously we need to consider a replacement for Moreno, who will be out of contract very soon, but perhaps we are considering an additional right back to compete with Trent and Gomez.

Would this mean Trent gets his chance in central midfield and Gomez at centre back more predominantly? I love seeing Trent at right back but I feel his skillset would be best served in the centre of the park, he has a great passing range, athletic, great work rate and stamina and a decent strike too. Gomez, if he can avoid these constant injuries, could be an important figure for years to come alongside Van Dijk.

Fingers crossed we identify the right players and spend wisely. Let's not forget that Keita has still to show his true qualities that served him so well in Germany. And Ox will be back, which will bring that offensive instinct in midfield which we have sorely lacked this season.




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04 Jan 2019 18:31:35
To be honest, I wouldn't expect any incomings during the January transfer window. This window Liverpool will concentrate on moving players that Klopp deems surplus to requirements, i. e. Solanke and Clyne. These two barely started any matches last season, let alone this season. They do not need to be replaced, we have adequate replacements already at the club, i. e. Origi, Sturridge for Solanke and Fabinho, Milner and Ki-Jana Hoever for Clyne.

In the summer transfer window I suspect we will reanalyse certain positions, i. e. back up keeper, possible right full back, back up left back. if no fringe or youth players are able to make the step up by then.

No need to panic. The players currently at our disposal have got us in this position, 4 points ahead of the previous champions. Now is not the time to change what has clearly been effective. Adding a new player, regardless of price and quality, could have a negative impact on the squad, i. e. settling in period, player replaced being affected by the new addition and having a detrimental effect on other players.

I say we go with what we have, sell or loan out the fringe players that Klopp does not believe will aid our title charge and leave it at that. Happy with the season so far and hoping, by May, we will be celebrating a trophy by the end of it.

Fingers Crossed.




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28 Dec 2018 21:30:58
I know this will probably get downvoted quite a bit but I personally hope the Pulisic rumours are unfounded. The boy has potential, no doubt about it, and I suspect the owners would like to see an American involved with the club to boost the clubs image in America even more so. But, I am concerned that Pulisic's signing will close the door to young players such as Camacho and Harry Wilson.

Obviously Camacho can play right back, so he is less involved, but Harry Wilson should be given a chance in pre-season and perhaps offered a rotational role if Klopp likes what he sees. The boy has been impressive at Championship level, although I still have concerns that he plays as an individual rather than for the team, but should he not be given a chance considering his dedication and focus over the last few years. For a while everyone said Wilson was not good enough and that Woodburn would be the one to progress to the first team. Now, there positions have been reversed.

I personally would not want Pulisic unless Salah or Mane were on their way out of the club, which seems unlikely in January. Spening 30 plus million on someone who will demand regular first team football at this stage of his career when there are others areas of the pitch that could be potentially strengthened would be more ideal. Although, at this stage, why rock the boat with any changes. We have looked very good so far with the current crop of players so why not show your belief and trust in them by not acting in the transfer window and going with what we currently had.

I maybe in the minority but was just interested to hear people's thoughts, IF, this rumour turns out to be true.





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28 Jul 2019 17:38:45
Fingers crossed our front three do not, at any stage of the season, pick up even minor injuries.

I have to admit to being surprised that Liverpool have not strengthened whatsoever this season. It is a little worrying. Hopefully Liverpool do not struggle and stagnate as a result. All teams around us have strengthened and we are going to have to rely on fortune and quality that has been present since last year.

Ox, is going to take a while to refind his form, and would not be surprised if he picks up little injuries throughout the season, which happens when you rupture your ACL.

Lallana, there's no way he will be fit for long stretches and, when he does come back, it takes a while for him to refind his form.

Brewster, a young man who will see few opportunities outside of cup competitions. Particularly with Origi firmly placed behind Firmino. Origi has done himself a great service last year but I still have many concerns about him.

Robbo and Trent also need to stay injury free, the replacements available simply cannot match their undoubted contribution. They are big players and compiment our style perfectly.

Personally I suspect Liverpool will be safely slotted into the top 4 and, depending on injuries, will compete on numerous fronts. However, challenging City will be a momentous task, especially without fresh blood and enthusiasm.




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11 Jun 2019 19:50:52
Hamstring injury.

Damn, that is the worst kind of injury for a player like Robertson. Considering how quick he is, and how often he runs up and down the left hand side, that could very well be a problem in the future.

Hopefully it is just an injury that will not have long term ramifications because Robertson has become the best left back we could have possibly hoped for. The quintessential Klopp player and attitude.

Fingers crossed he will be ready for the start of the season and, if not, that we bring in adequate cover for him, which we were going to do anyway.




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22 May 2019 20:53:16
I'm preparing the names as we speak ED025.

Just you wait, three names a day, every day :P.


{Ed025's Note - your all i need mango mate.. :)



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06 Jan 2019 14:41:06
Not a rest but my concern is he is injury prone and we cannot afford to lose another centre back while Matip and Gomez remain injured. Best to keep him away from the Wolves game and ready for the next match in the Premier League.




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06 Jan 2019 13:37:37
Ki-Jana Hoever could potentially play at centre back. Although I suspect, if he does play at all, it would be at right back to give Trent a rest. Perhaps Milner at right back and then Ki-Jana Hoever at centre. Van Dijk needs a rest in my opinion, he is the only player to have played every minute of every game this season. We could play Lovren but he has played a string of games after being injured and has looked largely suspect. Personally, rather have Van Dijk talking Ki-Jana through the game rather than Lovren.

Nat Philips is still injured I believe. Otherwise, I suspect he would have played a part either in the first 11 or bench. I do expect Curtis Jones, Camacho, Shaq, Sturridge, Keita to play a part in the match, whether from the start who knows. Perhaps even Origi unless the club fear injury during a period where he could potentially be sold.

Mignolet and Moreno have been confirmed already. So, it's going to be a blast from the past for many of us and a return of the shaky defence. Thank god for Van Dijk, Alisson, Robertson etc. Hopefully our offensive capabilities are enough to see us through. But I suspect this match will be a lot trickier then many of us expect.