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09 Jul 2017 19:13:58
Hi Eds
Has Creswell from West Ham been looked at for left back? I must admit I've not seen much of him last season and I know he had a bad injury but the few games I did see him in the previous seasons he looked like a decent player. I've seen us linked a few times but usually on unreliable sources like twitter. I know he's a scouser but is he a red or a blue? Only reason I ask is you tend to get that extra work rate from players who make the move to boyhood clubs.
{Ed002's Note - No, the left back choices were explained - we are looking at Robertson as being the preferred choice right now after losing out on others.}
1.) 09 Jul 2017 19:56:51
Cheers Ed
Do you rate Creswell yourself? As I said I've not seen a great deal of him past 12 months and do you think signing a player like him benifits the squad with them being a more senior local lad?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool interest dates back to Rodgers. He is a decent player.}
2.) 09 Jul 2017 20:21:56
Out of curiosity Ed002, who were our other choices that we missed out on?
{Ed002's Note - Done to death.}
3.) 09 Jul 2017 20:45:00
Mendy and Sessegnon.
4.) 09 Jul 2017 22:27:52
Usual average players linked. Why don't we ever learn!
5.) 10 Jul 2017 00:58:32
Is it me or has ED002 let slip his secret - that he actually supports LFC? The reply to the original post and use of the word 'we' has got me believing this is THE biggest story of the summer.
6.) 09 Jul 2017 21:28:38
And we gave up interest in Ricardo Perreira for mysterious reasons, per Ed01.
{Ed001's Note - I never said mysterious reasons, I merely said I do not know why we have not made a move to sign him.}
7.) 10 Jul 2017 04:14:12
Robertson will be decent but I like Dalbert. He's a good little player. We need to pick wisely or else our new lb could end up playing second fiddle to Milner.
8.) 10 Jul 2017 04:20:48
BobbyF exactly my thoughts:)
P. S ED002 knowledge in the field of football is amazing thanks for sharing with us.
08 Jun 2017 12:51:31
HI Eds
Read a few rumours that Peter Moore is speaking to the premier league and also meeting Southampton's people in person at some point today to smooth things over and see about the possibility of resurrecting the deal, any ideas if there is any truth in this?
From what I've read from interviews with Moore he said he was taking a back seat from transfers, so I bet he's wondered what he's got himself into if he's got to go Southampton an clear this mess up, that's presumably if he wasn't involved.
{Ed001's Note - I believe the rumours are true, that all 3 parties will be involved in clear the air talks.}
1.) 08 Jun 2017 13:25:25
You couldn't write this stuff! It's like a soap opera. Hope it's true and we can get the deal done but Im not holding my breath.
2.) 08 Jun 2017 13:43:55
Probably the most exciting transfer window I have ever experienced.
3.) 08 Jun 2017 13:36:55
Would you think the deal can still be done eds.
{Ed001's Note - can definitely, will is a different matter though.}
4.) 08 Jun 2017 13:41:24
Ed1 - is this with a possible view to making a deal happen?
{Ed001's Note - firstly it is with a view to ensuring we don't get a transfer ban.}
5.) 08 Jun 2017 13:55:35
I don't want excitement. I'd like competency and reasonable behaviour. Where's Peter Robinson when you need him?
6.) 08 Jun 2017 13:56:06
And it hasn't even opened A2 😂
It's going to be a long summer!
7.) 08 Jun 2017 13:53:46
And it's not even open yet 😂😂.
{Ed025's Note - that doesn,t matter to liverpool..they just charge in like a burglar jcw.. :)
8.) 08 Jun 2017 13:49:08
Eds do you think the deal can be struck? Seems very odd all this, although i can't really see vvd staying after this fiasco.
{Ed001's Note - that is the point, VVD wants to move, so it can be struck. I just have my fears about the costs involved.}
9.) 08 Jun 2017 14:02:30
Haha ed025! It's like black Friday and we've gone in swinging!
{Ed025's Note - your right there robbie.. :)
10.) 08 Jun 2017 14:00:33
eds do you see city or Chelsea going back in for him or are they a no go now for vvd.
{Ed001's Note - I do not expect either of those clubs to return for him now.}
11.) 08 Jun 2017 14:09:19
Why don't we just leave it and spend 60m elsewhere instead of on a CB than had half a decent season and has been injured since December?
12.) 08 Jun 2017 14:12:08
Good point, 50m is overpaying as it is. Especially since he is coming back from injury. More than than that seems like insanity.
13.) 08 Jun 2017 14:18:25
Oh boy. if we do get a deal done for VVD I wouldn't be surprised if the cost is close to twice our current transfer fee record (£35m) to smooth things up. could be a crazy fee for a CB! Just go and buy Soton club already!
14.) 08 Jun 2017 14:19:26
ed that does not leave Southampton with many options. So do you think they would be happy to start negotiations with us now. After making a point that the so called big teams can't just do what they like, And still getting paid over the odds for VVD so a win win for Southampton.
{Ed001's Note - I think it comes down to how much we are willing to pay really.}
15.) 08 Jun 2017 14:21:26
One reason not to "just leave it" is that, if Chelsea or City don't come in for him, we have left the player high and dry, after he allegedly committed to come to us.
That's a good policy if you want to ensure that fewer players, agents, and clubs will want to deal with you in the future. Kind of like selling a lemon to a car buyer and expecting repeat business.
Given the amount of money we have wasted in recent years, paying a little more to sort out this mess and repair some of the damage to our reputation may be a good idea.
16.) 08 Jun 2017 14:50:27
Agree - horrible mess but cleanest thing we can do now is settle on VVD (assuming Soton wants rid) and Salah and move on. We don't need anything else apart from a LB, and so if we pay a bit more for VVD then so be it as we deserve a bit of a slap given the idiotic mistake of not clearing discussions with Soton first.
We can also even spend a bit less on a FB if we have to (Sessegnon as understudy to Milner if we can get him) and keep our noses clean for the rest of the window. we don't need anything else urgently for next season IMO.
17.) 08 Jun 2017 15:07:27
When the bad news came out ref our apology and pulling out of the deal, i did post that this transfer was not over yet, I get info from a taxi driver, he says that we are still in for VVD, also Salah, we will know more after the weekend .
{Ed025's Note - oh a taxi driver...that explains everything mate.. :)
18.) 08 Jun 2017 15:56:59
Ed01 do you think it would make more financial sense and for tge good of the club to say to Southampton. look we are at fault it will be investigated and dealt with it will not happen again. The player wants a move what cost are you looking at. They say x amount and we as a club say here you go. Our apologies and let's sort a friendly with you getting the proceeds and all parties can move on.
This way we get a player and learn a lesson and aviod a ban with Southampton getting a good financial gain in the process and moving towards building bridges and some form of relationship with them again.
Thanks in advance
Jon.
{Ed001's Note - that would depend on how much Southampton asked for! If they turned round and said £100m then it would make no sense at all. However that does seem the most sensible way to fix this.}
19.) 08 Jun 2017 16:29:34
We should not just walk away! That would just prove we really don't care and would mean we've thrown our apology out of the window. We've broken the rules, got caught. At this point the cost is really irrelevant, we should just pay up, it's the only way Southampton and Virgil are happy, that's the important point, yes we would really really be over paying but that's our fault and nobody else. Showing we can do things right is more important.
20.) 08 Jun 2017 17:06:02
I agree with most replies to this, I think we desperately need to build bridges with Southampton and try to rebuild our reputation. I don't know what the fee is but as long as it's under £60million I'd just get it done, maybe throw in Joe Gomez on loan for the season with us paying all his wages etc in as a gesture, that would actually work out well for us if he got game time as he'd progress well down there. Point being we need to put it right.
21.) 08 Jun 2017 17:34:22
I agree on that ED01 thinking more if we could say let's give you 50 million and let's be done with the matter but it obviously isn't that straight forward
Cheers for your input ed01.
{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}
22.) 08 Jun 2017 17:45:34
Since we are in the business of eating humble pie at the moment, is it not worth driving down to Fulham with some chocolates and a bunch of flowers to try and smooth over any bad blood and get a deal going for Sessegnon?
04 Jun 2017 10:40:33
Hi Eds
Rumours again this morning about Lacazette again this morning and that we're meeting his representatives this week. I know it's probably rubbish, especially as it's someone I've wanted to see at the club for a while, but can you offer any insight Eds, would we be in for him and would he be interested in us. From what I've seen of him he looks a cracking finisher.
{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any interest from us. All I know is that, with his move to Atleti on the rocks, he is considering his options but still wants to move on this summer.}
1.) 04 Jun 2017 10:58:35
I guess he will end up at UTD or Arsenal. ( both looking at high end strikers )
2.) 04 Jun 2017 11:20:00
It's not going to happen. These are the owners that thought Balotelli would be an adequate replacement for Saurez.
3.) 04 Jun 2017 12:06:21
Quite frankly, Frankly, FSG don't conduct performance appraisals of recruitment targets. They trust the club to do that.
4.) 04 Jun 2017 12:32:29
Fsg are just worried abut making profit that is what businessmen do.
{Ed025's Note - so does every club KDK, what do you want from them?..to say here,s £500m go and get who you want mr klopp, FSG have invested a lot of money into the LFC project and deserve a bit more credit imo, sometimes you sound like spoilt brats who want the latest nike trainers even they know their mum cant afford them..
5.) 04 Jun 2017 12:59:37
Class reply, fifa or kids today.
6.) 04 Jun 2017 13:04:36
Absolutely spot on Eds, although Gola were the trainers of choice in my day haha, of course they're in it to make money why else, but what you have to look at is how they're trying to do that, they're investing and improving the whole time not taking and taking . some people will never be happy.
{Ed025's Note - your right there Jcw, i had pair of green flash pumps and was bloody grateful mate.. :)
7.) 04 Jun 2017 14:46:26
I'm not sure I said anything that was not fact? The people behind the scenes felt that Balotelli was an adequate replacement for Suarez on the cheap (though he turned out very expensive since no one would buy him) . They're not going to pay top dollar for the top players or even those in the next bracket below. It's long shots and prospects they're more interested in. I don't expect us to challenge for the league next year as things stand and certainly don't think we'll get out of the group stages of the Champions League. Top four is about the limit of our squad.
8.) 04 Jun 2017 16:48:40
And yet Spurs have challenged for the title 2 years in a row now, spending less money than we do. And Juventus and Atleti make CL top 4 regularly, spending less money than we do.
At some point, you need people with some talent at running a club, recruiting and developing players and coaching the side. It's not all about owners and who's paying"top dollar".
9.) 04 Jun 2017 19:35:57
Some posters on here. the average post has more moaning than the average full length porn film. The substance of the moaning has as much connection with reality as the moaning in the film action. We react as if the most flimsy paper speculation is fact and complain about players we may never sign.
25 May 2017 19:58:07
Hi Eds
Is there any players we are currently looking at on free transfers? I only ask as I seen the City are releasing Zabaleta and Clichy. Now I know signing on fees and wages are a mine field with free transfers but just wondering with the young left back from Fulham and Alexandre Arnold potentially looking like or future full backs if all goes well, would bringing someone like that as short term options be more viable? I thought Kolo done an ok job when he came in and I know he made mistakes but from what I hear his experience was invaluable in the dressing room. I don't know the financial situation with deals like that, it's just something I've wondered from time to time when I've seen teams pick up a 30+ player that looks finished on a free and they've turned in another good year or two at another club.
{Ed025's Note - not as far as i am aware john, im not sure how the supporters would look upon a "freebie"as the majority like to see high profile signings, ED002 has outlined liverpools preferred targets which can be found on the search function but none of them are free agents mate..
1.) 25 May 2017 20:22:28
Matip wasn't a bad freebie.
Freebies are ok as long as there not players just trying to get another year with high wages before they retire.
2.) 25 May 2017 20:26:30
I know it's a different position but isn't Jesus Navas available on a free? I know he's not set city on fire, but I bet Klopp could use him as a cog in the attack if he's prepared to be a squad player.
3.) 25 May 2017 20:39:18
Thanks for the reply Ed,
Matip was a good freebie, probably our best since Gary Mac, although that's of the top of my head. Epic has a point in Navas, and agree with you Ed in the fact most supporters never get excited over a free transfer. Just my personal opinion that if we could get somebody in with experience of winning leagues or European trophies it could help the young squad we have. I honestly think Gary Mac's experience helped us win the treble.
{Ed025's Note - there will be a few good ones out there john but im sure klopp has his own ideas on who he wants to bring in mate..
4.) 25 May 2017 21:33:44
If we do get another "free" transfer signing, they can't do any worse than Joe Cole.
5.) 25 May 2017 21:41:28
Navas? Really?!
His crossing is really poo and he's been poor for a while now.
6.) 25 May 2017 21:46:41
Joe Cole was terrible, as was Voronin, Degan, Jovanovic, among others. But Gary Mac, Jari Litmenan, Marcus Babbel, Robbie Fowler, Bellamy, Aurelio, Staunton, Maxi Rodrigues and James Milner all had good spells. It really is a hit and miss subject I think, I mean I think I like many others thought Zlatan would struggle coming to the premier league at his age and never having a great record against English clubs but unfortunately for us he was great. But I just think with us fighting on 4 fronts next season and our squad lacking numbers and experience in Europe then it could be an option, just my opinion that's all.
7.) 25 May 2017 21:49:14
I agree Smallsy but he hasn't always been cack. Remember we bought Coutinho because he wasn't performing at Inter. Some Soanish team is going to pick him up, rebuild his confidence, get him back to the player he was and he'll leave them at the end of the season for another hefty fee. I just think he'd be worth a go for us on a free with some good support.
8.) 26 May 2017 09:09:16
Believe Navas will be looking to return to Spain so probably not interested. Would be a squad player blocking progress of e. g. Ojo. Would rather keep Markovic.
{Ed001's Note - we would have to be mad to sign Navas, terrible player.}
9.) 26 May 2017 10:07:48
Kolasinac is the only worthwhile free agent that comes to mind that would have actually improved our team this season. Cannot think of anyone that would improve us from the freebies available this summer.
10.) 26 May 2017 10:38:33
If Sessegnon was to be loaned back to Fulham for the year, taking Clichy on a year long deal would not be a bad idea at all. Zabaletta and Navas would just be unused players on stupid wages and a waste of club resources. Clichy would actually get used and improve our defence, especially in depth if a preferred starting LB was signed aswell.
11.) 26 May 2017 10:59:08
Clichy and Navas - have you not watched them play! I wouldn't even sign them for Everton!
12.) 26 May 2017 17:41:54
They are both awful and won't improve us. let us focus our energy on actually getting a true RB and LB instead of all these sop gap measures that only prolong the problem.
19 Aug 2014 10:45:29
Hi eds
I remember a while ago we looked at Iker Munian from Bilbao, I think if I remember rightly he was a bit of a rough diamond, immense potential from what I've seen of him but a few off the field issues or attitude problems if I remember rightly. Did we have any further interest in him & what's his situation now? I think from what I seen of him in the past he may of suited our style.
I read these pages every day & think some fans think by bringing in a "big name" signing we will replace Suarez goals. That doesn't always work, anybody remember Fernando Morientes? Absolute beast in Europe scoring goals for fun for Real Madrid & Monaco but didn't suit our play or the English game, he then returned to Spain & started Scoring again for Valencia, Robbie Keane scored goals everywhere he went, came to Liverpool & didn't fit into our style of play, Look at the likes of Crespo, Ketzman & Shevchenko at Chelsea, Veron at United, City have had a few too. My point being the big money marquee signings don't always work, no matter how fantastic a player they are or how many goals they've scored.
Just for an example say we spent £50million on a Cavani or a Falcao, money which which would cripple us I imagine, that player would need to be a massive success, they would need to be a 30+ goals a season guy! we'd need not only need to qualify for Champions League every season but to get into their latter rounds every year just to pay some ridiculous wages we cannot afford. Then if it doesn't work out and the player flops that could open up its own can of worms with un needed pressure on the manager, financial implications & squad harmony.
Liverpool in my opinion don't need the marquee signing, we just need the right signing, I'm not sure Falcao would be it, I definitely doubt Eto'o, Cavani & Huntelaar would be it.
{Ed002's Note - The only thing that has happened this summer is that Spurs made an enquiry for Muniain - but before they confirmed a new manager. I expect that he will agree a contract extension with Athletic Bilbao (which he may have done already - I am not in a position to check).}
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13 Jan 2019 00:42:52
Hi Eds, Reds,
I've seen a lot of posts bout Coutinho and De Ligt, and I can't believe what I read sometimes. As far as De Ligt goes would we want to spend £50million on another centre back?
Yes I know we need 2-3 quality centre backs, then 1-2 good quality cover but if De Ligt comes in, he's going to want to play every week and what happens to Gomes who has impressed this season and formed a great partnership with VVD.
His progression could be hampered or he could move on somewhere else. We have Lovren and Matip for the remainder of the season and address in the summer on what's needed. Me personally if funds are available in this window I'd like to see a versatile defender who can play anywhere in defence brought in to give us a bit more numbers at the back and some reliable cover for the front 3. But I think that might be difficult to do.
As regards to Coutinho, as the guy I have no issue with him going to Barca, most South American's want to go to Spain, he wanted to go for his family so good luck to him. as a player, yes he's a fantastic player but my concern would be it may upset the balance we have at the moment trying to fit him in, plus obviously the financial thing of probably not being able to afford him, I think it's a luxury we don't need, just my opinion.
If we can do any business this window my preference would be just a quality loan or two if any are available, if not then youth. Things are going well, no need to go mental.
1.) 13 Jan 2019 02:47:55
Here here John.
2.) 13 Jan 2019 03:07:56
This is just my opinion. I would like to apologize in advance if I offended anyone by any way.
We are not the manager, the owner, the CEOs, the staffs, or the players. It's okay to ask for information, as I believe largely this is what the sites are for; for us to get info especially transfers and anything in between. But to debate and argue about them, what should and shouldn't, and to the extend abusing the guys who are doing all of these for us, is just plain pointless, unnecessary, etc.
Yes it's about opinions. But yet again, we aren't any of those I mentioned above. And again, what's the point of attacking and abusing those that don't share the same opinions or thoughts as ours?
To be honest, I tend to just ignore posts that were discussing and debating about transfers, formations, strategies and such. They tend to drag on as if the final decisions are down to any of you guys here, which they aren't.
Now just because of De Ligt and Coutinho, some chose to abuse and we ended up may not be having a certain Ed in here providing information anymore which is one of the main reason we are all here.
Again, this is just a personal opinion and thought. Sorry again in advance.
3.) 13 Jan 2019 05:45:35
Haizman, if you “ignore posts that are discussing and debating about transfers, formations, strategies and such†what on Earth do you read on this site?
{Ed001's Note - anything about U2 I think....
4.) 13 Jan 2019 06:20:43
"tend to". You missed those two words KK. I did get myself involved sometimes though ;)
Not just U2. Spice Girls too.
{Ed001's Note - so crap pop music is your thing then HMSS?}
5.) 13 Jan 2019 07:41:14
Ed001, prefer the spice girls to our spice boys in 1996, remember to those white suits? Lol.
{Ed001's Note - I have been trying to forget them ever since!}
6.) 13 Jan 2019 08:58:14
If it were me I’d spend the £50m on De Ligt. People said £75m on VVD was stupid money, it looks a bargain now. This kid has by all accounts the potential to be the best, only the top top clubs are linked. £50m could look a snip if he progressed with us like vVd has.
I agree about Gomes, but he has suffered lengthy spells out. I hate to say it, but should that continue his career at this level won’t last, still maybe at EPL level but a lower side, because he’ll lose paceand have that injury reputation. So in two or three seasons the ideal replacement DE LIgt will be £150m the way things are going and probably out of reach. ID buy him now. I do have him and VVD as settled cb partnership, have Gomes as cover for both CB/ RB and play a part in most games from the bench plus starting all cup and games whenever VVD or deL need rest or suspended.
GOT TO THINk long sited and if the best are available now get them if possible. ANYone know of a cb you’d rather have? One that could become the best? ONE That could play in our system? Potentially 10-12 years of top level career? IF £50m is correct that’s half the koutabily (spelling) fee and he ticks none of these things.
{Ed001's Note - have you watched De Ligt play? I have seen him a few times and fail to understand the hype at all. Looked an entirely average centre back to me.}
7.) 13 Jan 2019 09:39:17
Never seen De Ligt play so have no idea whether he is any good or not, but I can safely say that no CB in world football should be bought by Klopp at the minute that will hinder Gomez's progression in that position. Not Koulibaly, not De Ligt and certainly not for the ridiculous prices being touted around. At least VVD was proven in the premier league.
8.) 13 Jan 2019 09:53:19
Joe Gomez does everything De Ligt does. I don't see a need for him, really. I think we need to replace Matip next season. We shouldn't have 3 CBs that have the tendency to get injured.
Personally, I think we need to sign 3 or 4 players next season (assuming Moreno, Matip, Origi, Sturridge, Lallana and Milner leaves) . Replacements for Moreno and Matip, a backup for Trent, and a forward.
Ox will be back next season, and I assume Harry Wilson.
9.) 13 Jan 2019 10:45:00
I genuinely thought there was such a band back in the 96. I had to google it and look it up in Youtube to find out out that it's related to Liverpool. Now I understand the white suits thing!
Wow! This is awesome!
10.) 13 Jan 2019 11:00:07
Why are people so excited about De Ligt, he is only 19 and playing in the dutch league. Its only potential at the moment and the chances of a 19 year old defender coming to the premier league and walking straight into Liverpools' first team are remote.
Even if Liverpool threw silly money in January to get him, he would still need time to settle etc. Gomez, Matip and Lovren will be back very soon anyway.
Buying a defender at the end of this season makes sense, so at least they have pre season training with the squad to settle in etc.
As for Coutinho, he is in the past and I do not see a place in this team for him anyway.
11.) 13 Jan 2019 14:15:28
Spot on, Greeflash. I think people just bang on about him cos many others are doing it w/ o ever seeing the kid play consistently. I've never seen bhim play so I can't judge him either. Having said that, why do we need a rookie 19 yr old CB when we have a 22 year old Gomez who is more experienced than he is at LFC? That makes no footballing or financial sense esp. at 50m. You don't pay 50m for a back up. You pay that for a starter and if DeLigt won't start ahead of VVD or Gomez then again, what is he doing here? For depth? Nah, we have Matip and Lovs and Fab if needed, for depth at this point. In the summer? Maybe.
30 Jan 2018 12:43:55
Hi everyone
Just heard a rumour Torres has been offered round this window. Now I'm not one to go back to old players but just wondering peoples thoughts if he could do a job on loan until the summer? Bit of added experience in the squad, obviously depending on if the deal wasn't ridiculously expensive.
1.) 30 Jan 2018 13:57:12
DANNY INGS + DOM SOLANKE.
2.) 30 Jan 2018 14:40:26
I just wonder if, in ten years time, people will still be putting Torres posts on here.
3.) 30 Jan 2018 14:55:47
Well clearly Athletico think he can't so why in a league where it's more difficult to play on to a more senior age would we?
4.) 30 Jan 2018 15:36:01
Wow, we'really scraping the bottom of the barrel here, man.
5.) 30 Jan 2018 20:42:48
As I said I’m not in favour of old players returning especially past their prime, but I think I was just thinking back when Bellamy and Fowler returned on freebies, they didn’t set the world alight but they helped out and weighed in when we was lacking. Was just after opinions really if anyone think Torres could do that similar kind of job for the remainder of the season. My only concern is we have our targets and I agree with the Ed’s about not going an panic buying just coz Coutinho has gone. Klopp wanted VVD and Kieta, he got his men, albeit later than he liked, if Lemer is his top target I’m sure he’ll get him in the summer. I’d rather look to some low cost short term options to tide us by, not Torres is it, but every now and then a player towards the end of there career has one last swan song in them, be nice if we could find one.
27 Jan 2018 11:34:42
Hi Ed's
We've had a few links with Lucas Moura from PSG again this window, which I imagine will be likely just old stories from past seasons but he's being linked with Spurs amongst others at around £23million. Now I know you guys don't like talking money but I know a few years ago he was very highly sought after before his move to PSG, has he not lived up to his expectations? In today's crazy market a price anywhere near that valuation is reasonably cheap these days, just wanted to get your opinion on the player, if you rate him or think he's somebody in your opinion we should look at. Again not a rumour just after your opinion really, good look for the crazy week ahead.
{Ed002's Note - Moura is high risk and expensive given he is out of favour and would not be guaranteed a start at many higher-placed English sides given he can't get near the starting 11 at PSG. I don't know how many minutes Moura has played this season but it won't be much - he is rarely in the squad and when he is he is generally an unused substitute. Interest in taking him on loan elsewhere has gone nowhere as the player has high expectations. His abilities are limited to being able to run along a straight line quickly. It makes about zero sense to me.}
1.) 27 Jan 2018 12:06:34
Brilliant assessment, Ed. I have watched Moura play a lot at PSG and there is a reason he is where he is at with no big club touching him and it for the reasons you just described. He is a sprinter and that's about it. I would not want him at LFC EXCEPT Klopp wanted him and then I would defer to him. This is why you don't panic buy cos it seems Spurs got desperate here.
{Ed002's Note - If you look back to previous years PSG were willing to let Moura leave having lost patience over the time it took him to settle in (and another matter). They tried to get help from Adidas to ship him back to Brazil and offered him to the likes of Atletico, Manchester United and Arsenal all of which took a long stride back. Roma and Fenerbahce enquired but the cost was well beyond what they expected.}
2.) 27 Jan 2018 15:04:52
I thought that since he went to psg he has been dreadfully unsettled? Make no mistake, I absolutely don't want to take the risk but I thought I'd heard that he just couldn't adapt to life in France. Maybe it would be best for the lad to get loaned back to Brazil to find his form again, he was once thought of as a great potential, perhaps it's not too late to get his career back on track but unlike coutinho, I don't think he'll find what he needs in England.
3.) 27 Jan 2018 17:51:02
Thanks for the info, Ed. I have seen many fans on other sites slating LFC for not going for him. Goes to show that we should be grateful to the Ed's for the insight that they give us on the club's inner workings cos trust me w/ o them and their graciousness, I would be sounding just like these "fans". Thank you for all you do, Ed's!
{Ed002's Note - Are Liverpool still keen on Freddie Adu?}
4.) 27 Jan 2018 18:02:24
Lucas Moura has played 80 minutes in all competitions this season, Ed!
{Ed002's Note - Thanks. I assume he is raring to go then.}
5.) 27 Jan 2018 19:15:50
Haha I certainly wouldn’t be looking at signing him for Liverpool if it were down to me. I’m with you Ed, far too high risk.
07 Jan 2018 14:54:29
Hi Ed's/ Reds
As much as I liked Coutinho, I can't help but feel a tad let down that he left now instead of doing the deal now and going in the summer, I'd understand if we was out of the champions league and in mid table with no hope of silverware but we have a great chance for the FA Cup, fantastic chance of improving on last years league position and in all fairness however unlikely you can never say never with the European cup when we are involved, I just feel he let us down a bit and tarnished his legacy a little bit, but best of luck to him.
Now onto the future, I understand people are flapping no the little fella has gone and are already spending this £146million like it's their own but I really don't think things are as bad as they seem. For me personally, I think we are fine to cope in midfield until the summer. We have Lallana back from injury now, although admittedly he still needs a few games to return to form, but he was first name on the team sheet for many last season, even before Coutinho. I think the way he plays with his neat close passing will create plenty of goals for the likes of Salah and Bobby. Oxlade-Chamberlain has come on leaps and bounds in such a short period of time and his work rate impresses me greatly, I doubted this signing and I'm delighted so far I've been proved wrong. With Gini, Can, Milner, Henderson, Lallana, Ox fighting for 3 places, such panic buys in January for players who may be below our standards or paying over the odds for players makes no sense, add to the fact any suitable replacement will again cost more now and likely be cup tied in Europe. My opinion is, if Lemar is our top target for replacing Coutinho, then get a deal sorted now for next season, then with him and Kieta already done we can concentrate on finding a top class goal keeper and possibly a new striker once summer rolls round.
{Ed002's Note - Monaco has no interest in discussing any "deal for next season".}
1.) 07 Jan 2018 15:15:09
Didn’t know if it might of been an option Ed, thanks for clearing that up, understandable though as if the player has a great World Cup his price inflates, one thing that baffles me with the Coutinho deal, them extra few months could of gotten us a higher fee, yes he wanted to go now but if the club could of dug in a bit more, a good World Cup and an extended run for us in the champions league could of put the value up another £10-30million. But that’s life and he’s now the past, I still think we have a very bright future with the players we have and Kieta looks like some player from what I’ve seen.
{Ed002's Note - Barcelona would no longer have been an option then - and Liverpool knew that. Liverpool were aware that Barcelona wanted thie transfer resolved by the end of November - I don't think they realised Barcelona were really then going to look at other options as well. Certainly by the summer they would not be an option. Keita runs hot and cold and gets accused of going missing in major games. He also has on field issues regarding discipline that will need to be resolved, and off field issues in terms of stupidity. He shopuld be OK but far away, at least for now, of the "world class" label the fans are giving him.}
2.) 07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.
3.) 07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.
4.) 07 Jan 2018 18:56:58
John, I had the dame ferling a couple days ago about coutinho leavibg. He seem like a nice kid, and it a shame the way it played out. No fibal game, no standing O, he just vanishes from thr club.
11 Aug 2017 18:48:08
Hi Eds
Once again the club is in a mess in the transfer window. If we're not playing dirty tactics with other teams players we're having trouble with our own. Don't get me wrong, I love our club and maybe a year or two ago I'd be fuming at all this drama but after the VVD and Keita saga's I find it hard to sympathies with the people running the club. This really should of been a summer to kick on from what was an overall good season last year but like the season we just missed out on the title a few years back poor decisions have been made. I don't blame any one person as I think there has been mistakes from the owners, senior management, Klopp's and players at times. This needs to be put to bed now though, if Coutinho is going to kick up a fuss we need to work hard to find the best replacement we can before we allow him to leave, also to try and prevent ourselves getting into another Andy Carroll situation. We need to also once and for all either forget about VVD, or try and build some bridges with Southampton and get it over the line or just move on and get somebody else in. Kieta should be forgotten until next seasons release clause comes into play. I'm just sick of us being in the news for negative reasons, tapping up, players unrest, horrendous WU on shirt sleeves, I'm desperate to see some positive news from the club in the next week or so starting with 3 points at Watford.
1.) 11 Aug 2017 19:28:22
I really really don't want Couts to go, but I don't want an unhappy player in the team, Barcelona, once again think they can buy whoever they want,
tell them the price is 125 million, and then don't come back until you have that cheque in your hand, the full amount, we should hold all the aces .
09 Jul 2017 19:56:51
Cheers Ed
Do you rate Creswell yourself? As I said I've not seen a great deal of him past 12 months and do you think signing a player like him benifits the squad with them being a more senior local lad?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool interest dates back to Rodgers. He is a decent player.}
08 Jun 2017 17:06:02
I agree with most replies to this, I think we desperately need to build bridges with Southampton and try to rebuild our reputation. I don't know what the fee is but as long as it's under £60million I'd just get it done, maybe throw in Joe Gomez on loan for the season with us paying all his wages etc in as a gesture, that would actually work out well for us if he got game time as he'd progress well down there. Point being we need to put it right.
25 May 2017 21:46:41
Joe Cole was terrible, as was Voronin, Degan, Jovanovic, among others. But Gary Mac, Jari Litmenan, Marcus Babbel, Robbie Fowler, Bellamy, Aurelio, Staunton, Maxi Rodrigues and James Milner all had good spells. It really is a hit and miss subject I think, I mean I think I like many others thought Zlatan would struggle coming to the premier league at his age and never having a great record against English clubs but unfortunately for us he was great. But I just think with us fighting on 4 fronts next season and our squad lacking numbers and experience in Europe then it could be an option, just my opinion that's all.
25 May 2017 20:39:18
Thanks for the reply Ed,
Matip was a good freebie, probably our best since Gary Mac, although that's of the top of my head. Epic has a point in Navas, and agree with you Ed in the fact most supporters never get excited over a free transfer. Just my personal opinion that if we could get somebody in with experience of winning leagues or European trophies it could help the young squad we have. I honestly think Gary Mac's experience helped us win the treble.
{Ed025's Note - there will be a few good ones out there john but im sure klopp has his own ideas on who he wants to bring in mate..
23 Jun 2015 21:58:26
I understand what you mean Ed about Ings, Origi & Lallana but if we want to do well in all competitions surely all will get a chance, as we all know we'll be very lucky to get 15-20 games from Sturridge & with injuries, suspensions ect I'm sure will all get a chance. Hope Sky's report just now that we've agreed a deal is true but until I see it on club website I'll hold expectations. Glad that you say he goes well with Coutinho, the thought of 2 little magicians in the side, a good solid performer in Milner & hot young prospect in Ings I'm looking forward to the season. I hope you all the luck in the world for the silly season between now & deadline day :-)
{Ed001's Note - whereas I think the best teams use small tight knit squads to develop a good understanding. One of the issues we had with Rafa and his rotation was that all the fringe players were rusty and so looked awful every time they got a game. I am not getting my hopes up on Firmino as we never sign the payers I want us to sign, I am not sure I will believe it even if I get to watch him trot out on to the pitch wearing our kit!}
30 Jan 2018 20:42:48
As I said I’m not in favour of old players returning especially past their prime, but I think I was just thinking back when Bellamy and Fowler returned on freebies, they didn’t set the world alight but they helped out and weighed in when we was lacking. Was just after opinions really if anyone think Torres could do that similar kind of job for the remainder of the season. My only concern is we have our targets and I agree with the Ed’s about not going an panic buying just coz Coutinho has gone. Klopp wanted VVD and Kieta, he got his men, albeit later than he liked, if Lemer is his top target I’m sure he’ll get him in the summer. I’d rather look to some low cost short term options to tide us by, not Torres is it, but every now and then a player towards the end of there career has one last swan song in them, be nice if we could find one.
07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.
07 Jan 2018 15:54:49
Thanks for your reply again Ed, I suppose even with wishful thinking of holding on to him until the summer and Barcelona looking elsewhere, I’m sure we’d of had another big money offer from the likes of PSG or Real Madrid so keeping him long term would never of been an option. I can’t say I’m an expert on Kieta, but from the odd game I’ve seen he looks a player, his disciplinary record worries me but hopefully Klopp can develop him into the World Class player his potential suggests, I think that’s all we can hope with any transfer, I certainly don’t think he’s there yet or we’d be paying £100million plus, but as I said in my opinion he looks a player, fingers crossed with him. My slight worry is with Lamar, he seems expensive for a player who also has potential but that’s todays market I suppose and it ain’t our money, I just hope there’s money available for a keeper in the summer.
07 Jan 2018 15:15:09
Didn’t know if it might of been an option Ed, thanks for clearing that up, understandable though as if the player has a great World Cup his price inflates, one thing that baffles me with the Coutinho deal, them extra few months could of gotten us a higher fee, yes he wanted to go now but if the club could of dug in a bit more, a good World Cup and an extended run for us in the champions league could of put the value up another £10-30million. But that’s life and he’s now the past, I still think we have a very bright future with the players we have and Kieta looks like some player from what I’ve seen.
{Ed002's Note - Barcelona would no longer have been an option then - and Liverpool knew that. Liverpool were aware that Barcelona wanted thie transfer resolved by the end of November - I don't think they realised Barcelona were really then going to look at other options as well. Certainly by the summer they would not be an option. Keita runs hot and cold and gets accused of going missing in major games. He also has on field issues regarding discipline that will need to be resolved, and off field issues in terms of stupidity. He shopuld be OK but far away, at least for now, of the "world class" label the fans are giving him.}
26 Jul 2017 12:19:56
To be fair HXRed how much have any of us seen of Kieta? Yes he's had a great season in the German league. I just think Emre Can is improving, Coutinho is first name on team sheet, Gini worked very hard and played well last season, Henderson looked like he was loving that new holding midfield role before injuries and looks like he's back at it during pre season, Lallana has been one of our most successful performers over the past 2 seasons and I think Grujic is showing signs of becoming a good player. I see the point that Kieta might be a better player but sometimes bringing in such player could upset the valence of what you already have.