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27 May 2018 19:20:14
Anyone know the other clubs in fekir?

Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - Five other clubs have shown an interest and there has been a discussion with two of them. I would discount three of the sides and there is nothing new to what has been previously explained.}


1.) 27 May 2018 19:29:36
Cheers ed is it the case Liverpool have progressed further then the others in negotiations etc or is it all still level at those matters? And do u know if fekir himself has a preference? Thanks again 02 👍🏼.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any negotiations between Liverpool and his club. The claim from a journalist 10 days or so ago saying it was a "done deal" led to Lyon looking to see if there had been an illegal approach. Regardless, I expect that Liverpool will look to speaking formally to Lyon soon.}


2.) 27 May 2018 19:30:54
Cheers Ed.


3.) 27 May 2018 20:00:18
It will be us and Arsenal I would expect.


4.) 27 May 2018 20:14:48
Thanks 02 appreciate it 👍🏼.


5.) 27 May 2018 20:28:39
Cheers ed 2.


6.) 27 May 2018 20:33:36
Has there been an illegal approach ed? Hope they've learnt their lesson!

{Ed002's Note - They don't know - a journalist announced a deal had been reached with Liverpool and Lyon knew nothing of such an agreement. Hence the statement from them saying that Liverpool has not contacted them.}


7.) 27 May 2018 20:42:05
Hope that they make that formal approach and sign the guy. He and Keita will be cracking signings.


8.) 27 May 2018 22:18:58
Why would it not surprise me if LFC have been at it again though. Cheers Ed002.


9.) 27 May 2018 22:43:08
Thanks for the info Ed2. I hope you've had a good day/ evening.


10.) 28 May 2018 16:29:33
I've never really been interested in the like/ dislike buttons, and I'm not bothered what post of mine get's disliked/ liked it's all irrelevant BUT when I'm thanking an Ed who goes out of his way to help us out, how is that bad? 5 odd individuals out there that's for sure, at least tell me what's wrong with me thanking an Ed? maybe instead you should join in thanking Ed2 for his constant info, it's not hard to appreciate/ respect the good things in life, in fact, it's very easy, well it should be.

I can't thank the Eds enough, why? because of their knowledge/ info, info they don't have to give us but choose to for free, I don't know many people in life who'd do such a kind act these fellas are doing.

Thank you Ed1, Ed2, Ed25, Ed333 and all other eds.

Let the dislikes come in ;) .


 

 

27 May 2018 12:58:17
Looks like fekir has put them rumours to bed 😕.

Jay dub red

1.) 27 May 2018 13:09:18
Early days. It sounds more like his agent has told him off for being too positive in one direction.


2.) 27 May 2018 13:12:16
It’s a long summer.


3.) 27 May 2018 13:39:34
But he is hardly going to come out and say he has agreed to a move.


4.) 28 May 2018 09:18:04
No player would disrespect their current club and just be like "yeah Im going to Liverpool". I think a formal approach will happen soon.


 

 

29 Aug 2017 17:37:03
Eds can u give a brief lesson how a transfer happens! Like do a club just notify the other. Club and say we will give u 5m for him etc how does it go?

Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - The process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally about a transfer and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.}


1.) 29 Aug 2017 21:19:46
Haha so the complete opposite of how we do things then Ed02.


2.) 29 Aug 2017 21:34:57
Was nothing like I thought it would go lol cheers Ed 👍🏼.


3.) 29 Aug 2017 22:16:16
Very interesting ed02. I was thinking, swaps are quite rare, is that because the agent doesn't get as much money as the deal is one of little money and swap of players?

I have no idea how it all works dude.


4.) 30 Aug 2017 02:11:20
Ed002. I know that's how transfers generally work and you've explained it brilliantly. the thing is (And this is not trying to defend anyone's actions or condem or have a go even ) . That's basically tapping up. hear me out.
A player is having a great season is happy and enjoying his football . The transfer window is approaching and let's say real Madrid approach said players agent to ask is he available to which the agent will reply I don't know but I'll find out and the club ask is he interested in the move. To which the agent will say I'll ask him and what player in the right mind would want to turn real down. so them actions are actually turning a players head. which is illegal . the first point of call is meant to be to the club's direct to see about availability then given or denied permission to contact said player. but in today's world where image is everything clubs can't afford to be getting knocked back by players hence why the contact the agent to see if he's up for moving .

When all's said and done that's part of a tapping up process in the sense turning a players head . don't get me wrong there is different levels of turning heads and tapping up but it's still wrong.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is simply business as usual.}


5.) 29 Aug 2017 21:36:55
Ed2. There's an interesting article on BBC sport regarding tapping up. Was wondering your take on it. And no, I'm not trying to justify, deflect, etc etc. Just found it interesting given this summers antics.

{Ed002's Note - I will have a read when I get the time.}


 

 

22 Jan 2014 19:26:42
Ken aguero and mo salad seen on a plane Liverpool bound easy jet my "source" tells me ba ;)

Jay dub red

1.) I'm guessing you mean Salah? And Aguero? Flying Easy Jet? IMHO all three are equally unlikely!


2.) They were on that Ryan Air flight the other day that was trashed and all the fags and booze nicked.


3.) I see now why your called the plank!
Sake it was a joke with sarcasam!


4.) 22 Jan 2014 20:47:13
Was it them that thrashed the Ryanair flight lol just what we need!


5.) Thanks for your sparkling insight Jay. I'm just so used to dimwits on here I take things at face value. Plank was awarded to me by a Brummie poster on here who told me I was as thick as plank because he thought I was thick for saying a transfer target of Liverpool would stay in a hotel. He told me transfers don't go through until the target buys or rents a house or flat. Pot calling kettle I thought and am proud of the name.


6.) Main course with your side salad sir?

How about some Mataballs?

How much would that Costa?

(sorry)


7.) 22 Jan 2014 21:59:08
That wil go well with salad stoneage ;)


8.) 22 Jan 2014 22:01:44
No worries plank just some friendly banter theirs too many posters going nuts over this salah lad that their turning nasty on the Ed's so I thought I'd throw salad and his mate ken in their lol!
YNWA mate!


 

 

22 Jan 2014 10:42:01
Is Ed02 about? With these so called rumours about mata allowed leave for over £30m but not to another epl side due to the sales of Torres mirrilas* yossi from lfc to Chelsea is their a bit of mutual respect their between the 2 clubs that would allow such a sale of mata I know it's not happening I just wondered if it could be possible?

Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool do not have the money to buy Mata Jay - so it is moot.}


1.) If we can't afford him, how come we could afford Willian / Mkhitarian, Costa et al, in the summer? What's happened to finance since?

{Ed002's Note - Sure, could sell Suarez to raise the money.}


2.) Ed, I am not denying your claim that Liverpool do not have money to buy Mata . But if it is really true that Liverpool FC are the 9th richest club in the world then why can't we afford him? If spurs can spend such money then why can't Liverpool? FSG made it clear that they can compete with any club in Europe, our squad is very thin, our bench always looks weak and if they mean business why can't they dig deep into their pocket to support the manager to get quality players who can push us to top 4? We always go for players who are available on loans and 1-8million bracket which to me is mid table teams mentality or judgement in transfer market though not always. FSG must really do something and forget about King Kenny's spending era because if we miss the top 4 this year it will dump our spirit.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you mean by "ninth richest". Spurs sold Bale and spent the money. Liverpool could sell Suarez and spend some money. Liverpool spend vastly more on transfers than the likes of Spurs.}


3.) Why not spend most of this summer's transfer budget and bring in the likes of Mata, Salah and Fernando Reges now? to secure champions league because otherwise we won't be attracting these type of players if we don't qualify then.


4.) UnicornRiver- we spent ~24M on two CBs after Chelsea signed Willian, BVB signed Mkhitaryan, and Costa decided to stay at Atletico, did we not?


5.) To be fair to the OP, our net spend is currently around 20M. In the same blll park as Villa and Swansea and 15M less than Cardiff.


6.) Not sure how you come up with 20M. My recollection is closer to 70M net since BR came in.


7.) That's 20M since the window opened in summer 2013.


8.) We may have to sell Suarez if we don't make CL


9.) Our net spend on transfers since the 2010/11 season totals £90 mills. This does not include agents fee's and taxes which would probably put another £30 mills on that total.
Don't any one say that we have not been forth coming with money for transfers.
LFC will buy the right player for the right price and will not be held to ransom.
I for one fully support the way we are conducting our business and if that means we miss out on a few players due to greed then so be it.
I would sooner have a player here to play for the badge than the amount of £000's we can put in there bank account.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.


 

 

 

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06 Feb 2019 12:09:12
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Jay dub red

{Ed002's Note - It is completely unacceptable to wish injuries on players. Don't do it again or I will remove your account.}


1.) 06 Feb 2019 12:51:18
Wasn’t in the context but fair dues Ed.


 

 

04 Feb 2019 19:03:45
No hendo or gini! Hope to Jaysus lallana plays a game 2nite!

Jay dub red

1.) 04 Feb 2019 19:13:39
I take it they are not fit? Fab needs a great game in there today. COYR.


2.) 04 Feb 2019 19:26:07
Tonight is Keita's night lads!


3.) 04 Feb 2019 22:03:52
Keita is still struggling. He needs more games.


4.) 04 Feb 2019 22:13:41
i thought Keita played decent esp. in the second half.


5.) 04 Feb 2019 23:55:07
Keita did play better 2nd half, but he was really poor 1st half, and let himself get blocked off for their goal, really poor defending for all their set pieces, and a draw was a fair result in the end, as west ham gave us a hard game,
we were not good enough to win that game, that's four points dropped, City must be happy tonight, as they will surely beat everton by 3 or 4 goals Wed night and go top .


 

 

04 Feb 2019 10:42:22
I see j Gomez is to get surgery I think someone said last wk it was to happen so wish him the best he’s been quality when playing! Just hope we don’t get any injuries to the other 2 cb softies.

Jay dub red

1.) 04 Feb 2019 10:49:07
Get well soon Joe, we need you 👍.


2.) 04 Feb 2019 11:05:58
Anyone know how reliable the physio room is they are sayin lovern is out with a hamstring?

{Ed025's Note - thats just wishful thinking jay..


3.) 04 Feb 2019 11:18:47
😂😂😂 your in the zone today 25 👍🏼.

{Ed025's Note - i had 3 shredded wheat for breakfast jay..


4.) 04 Feb 2019 11:28:12
Only 3? Plenty of sugar on them
Pal 😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - more sugar than wheat mate.. :)


5.) 04 Feb 2019 12:55:59
I thought Lovren would be ok for tonight Ed? He can’t be far away mate?

{Ed025's Note - hes miles away from being the answer virgil mate..


6.) 04 Feb 2019 13:06:50
lol come on mate try to be serious for 30seconds🤣😝. Do you no if he is far away from fitness mate please? Wish we had the likes of Zouma and Keane to call upon mate, we would be ok then.

{Ed025's Note - i believe he has had a setback with his hamstring virgil mate..


7.) 04 Feb 2019 14:21:57
I think that all these injuries will impact on our suumer transfers, we need to bring in another centre back for sure, Lovren just can't stay fit, but, if we bring in the right players, then we go up another level,
we are now an elite team, we need to stay one .


8.) 04 Feb 2019 15:14:25
Touche Ed 25 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️.


9.) 04 Feb 2019 15:35:14
I don't get this "bring in a CB". Firstly, who is available that we could afford. Secondly, anyone you bring in would have to be a starter, thus basically stalling Gomez's career instantly. We have an exceptional young CB in Gomez, a future England captain learning from a world class CB in Virg. Why would we disrupt that just to buy some "amazing world class CB" (who has never played in the PL)? Lovren is a decent back up who I think understands the situation and his place in the squad. Gomez has been extremely unlucky with injuries. You don't win a league with 11 players, you win it by utilizing the players you have available at that time.


10.) 04 Feb 2019 18:03:22
Because stuie 3 of our 4 CBs cannot stay fit, 2 of them aren’t good enough and 1 of them is also our back up right back. We quiet clearly need another reliable CB.

All this “no one will come to sit on the bench/ rotate” stuff is nonsense. Look at City who have several good players in every position, if you’re competing for titles people want to come and be part of it.

Also, before anyone says “Gomez isn’t injury prone, he just got an unlucky broken leg”, when has he gone a season without more than a month out injured? He hasn’t.

This season’s injury is down to having to cover RB so never getting a proper rest. When players are more tired. They’re more likely to get injured as their bodies are fatigued so don’t do the same things as fresh bodies.

We need a new RB and to let Matip or Lovren go to be replaced with a new CB.
In an ideal world Mignolet and Moreno will also leave and be replaced, hardly all likely to happen in one summer, but this squad are still a long way off the finished article.

{Ed002's Note - Given that you see two of the four CBS as not good enough it is a surprise Liverpool are doing so well with all of this trash playing for them. The comment about MC is of no consequence - Liverpool does not have the money to do that.}


11.) 04 Feb 2019 18:24:40
If we were to bring in another CB, it would either have to be someone better than Lovren and Matip, but not as good as Gomez, but happy to be cover. I think that's quite a fine profile that you're setting and I doubt there's anyone that fits those variables.

The other option is to bring someone in on the same level as Lovren or Matip that is even younger than Joe Gomez. Maybe someone like Upamecano from RB Leipzig, but he'd be very pricey. Maybe someone a year or two younger as he's only a year younger than Gomez, but then you have to question if there's someone in the academy at that level.

I do think that our young Dutch lad, Ki-Jana Hoever could end up being the answer. In which case, just holding onto Lovren and Matip would be the best option, and wait for Hoever to develop. I really don't think it will be long before he's seriously knocking on the door for a starting place.

{Ed002's Note - Typically clubs do not try and recruit players by saying we want someone not as good as x.}


12.) 04 Feb 2019 20:22:32
KK, which brings me back to my point of, who would you get who is actually realiticly attainable for LFC? People just assume there's a group of amazing CB's lining up to join us for peanuts who would stroll in and be better than what we have.


13.) 04 Feb 2019 22:24:58
KK, using City as an example is a false argument to the point of being ridiculous. City spent over 170m on defenders alone last season (FB's and CB) so you think LFC can do that? Also, Otamendi and Kompany were ther before Pep arrived and both rearely ever play as Pep prefers Stones and Laporte, both of whom he signed for over 100m combined. That's about 270m on defenders alone that Pep has spent. If you think LFC will do that then you are supporting the wrong club and deluding yourself. We will NOT be doing that anytime soon, neither do I want us to do that. Crippling the club just to match a club being funded by owners with enough money to fund a countries budget, is lunacy at it's highest.


14.) 05 Feb 2019 17:49:43
I never said we should spend £270 million on defenders. I said we need a new CB, entirely different.

I agree that it will be hard to find someone, but not impossible as people are suggesting. The link I made to city was that we will be able to sign people to rotate, like they have.

Spurs have better depth than us in most areas too, eriksen, lamela, Alli, Lucas, Son, all rotate 3 positions. Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez and Davies all rotate CB (and Left back in the case of Davies) .

Chelsea have several good quality CBS who rotate, United have a wealth of attacking talent who rotate.

I just used city as one example of this, but all the other top clubs have depth and rotate better than we are able too.

I’m not trying to say our players are poor, we are top of the league so clearly they are not. But some of them are not good enough rotation for the first 11, particularly in defence (Moreno, Matip, Mignolet and Clyne (now gone but our RB cover before he left) ) . Can anyone argue that this squad is perfect and needs no investment?

I doubt it. We are still only part way through rebuilding the squad under Klopp and I personally think the back up defenders and keeper are the most important next phase.

I’m also not saying we can achieve it in one window as we also probably need to replace Milner and need a back up striker when Sturridge inevitably leaves. I think we will probably be in a far better place to sustain a challenge next year and I really hope that is in defence of the league title.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool's squad is the same size as that of the other sides. Would you really swap Van Dijk, Gomez, Lovren and Matip for Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Sanchez and Davies - thereby giving Spurs more depth than Spurs. I guess Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, Lucas and Son would give Liverpool much more depth and a better chance than Shaqiri, Mane, Salah, Lallana and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Hard to believe that Spurs are not miles ahead of Liverpool this season.}


 

 

29 Jan 2019 21:58:30
Oh Rafa we love u! Once a red always a red they say!

Jay dub red

1.) 29 Jan 2019 22:02:34
Rafa you really are a liverpool legend.


2.) 29 Jan 2019 22:04:57
RAFA! RAPHEAL.


3.) 29 Jan 2019 22:15:06
Pep was losing his scalp on the bench YET the media would like to delude themselves that Klopp could be the one under pressure. Either way, it's not going to matter if we don't do our jobs. Up Da Pool!


4.) 30 Jan 2019 04:47:08
Everyone is under pressure, RedWolf, its getting close to the business end of the season and any mistakes could be terminal. I had to laugh at Pep sucking on his water bottle like it was a dummy each time a goal went in though.
Is there any reason why Citys goal wasnt a foul on the keeper btw?


 

 

27 Jan 2019 11:04:52
Could be a shaky few games with Trent n Gomez missing and Milly out! Yeah we have fab but I don’t think klopp likes him as a rb and I don’t have fate in givin the kid Camacho a run in high pressure games talk about thrown into the deep end! Squeaky bum time is upon us so fingers crossed.

Jay dub red

1.) 27 Jan 2019 11:21:46
Didnt we chuck trent in for his debut in a big game? Against city or spurs or something? If i remember correctly he did well.


2.) 27 Jan 2019 11:32:44
Leicester going to be a tough one as well. They have been awful in some games this season but seem to cherish and raise their game ten fold when playing the top teams. Will be interesting to see who partners Vvd at the back and who plays RB. Defensively we have been immense this season but it’s no coincidence that we conceded 3 last game with certain key defensive players missing.


3.) 27 Jan 2019 11:42:15
Utd away wasn't it?


4.) 27 Jan 2019 11:48:35
Jdr, what some posters on here won't accept, is that the basis of our defensive strength was pace.
The first choice back four of TAA, Gomez, VVD and Robertson are probably the quickest back four in the PL.
Half of that unit is now out - Lovren and Milner / Fabinho are not in that class, pace-wise. Particularly at full back, where it’s much more vital.
Virtually all the Prem teams now have quick wide / front three attacks, built on counter attacking, and the loss of half your pace in the back four is a real concern.
Fabinho at full back, just forget it. He’s doing well where he is but don’t put him out there in a make shift back four.
If we have to, I’d play Camacho there. The holding midfielders, Van Dijk and Mane will have to help him out.
But we need Trent back, ASAP.


5.) 27 Jan 2019 12:39:43
Does Lovren usually play right CB also?
That’s a new RB and maybe Lovren at right CB?
Three guesses where Leicester will be targetting?


6.) 27 Jan 2019 14:07:46
Why all the negativity about facing Leicester at Anfield, even if we do have to field an inexperienced RB? They are 9th in the PL, they have lost 10 out of 23 games, they have conceded 29 goals in those 23 games and are 29 points behind us. We have not dropped a single point against a team from outside the current Top 5. Keep the faith lads!


7.) 27 Jan 2019 15:06:23
Bit stupid loaning Clyne out.


8.) 27 Jan 2019 15:43:33
Nothing stupid about loaning Clyne out, LFC08. Ed01 said Clyne has a wretched attitude and is not living the kind of lifestyle that a professional footballer should be leaving. Ed0333 said he is poants and has been stealing a living since he came here. Did I also mention that he is a poor defender? Clearly, you are open to keeping such an individual in the squad who could not be arsed to do the basics. The rest of us are not.

Now back to the debate, Our defence is walking wounded right now BUT as a team, our mentality and drive has not wavered. That is the thing that should comfort us all. City had injuries and lost to Palace. We had injuries and beat them. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. We stay together, fight for each other and don't give up, we will be okay, IMO.

"Leicester will target our right side". That is ONLY to anyone who does not understand football. Teams target other teams'percieved weaknesses all the time. LC would be stupid not to do that in this case. That is not news to anyone or do people think Klopp did not know that Milner would be targeted or that our right side would be targeted vs Leicester? It is up to him to find a system to minimize the threat and I am sure he will have a plan come Wed.

LC will be a tough game BUT what else is new? We should come to expect that now and our boys are fully aware and prepared for this test after all, we would not be where we are today w/ o that type of mentality. There is NOTHING to fear but fear itself. Up Da Pool!


9.) 28 Jan 2019 07:15:37
Every win from now until May will be hard fought.
No team will give it away to us, every team wants a shot at the league leaders.
As RedWolf said, LC will be tough and what else is new?


 

 

 

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15 Feb 2019 11:32:25
Ed u see the way u say hawked around! since the player has a contract and a fair bit to go on it can the club not stop this or anything footballers and agents are greedy b#%#%#%#s!

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05 Feb 2019 18:30:56
Great news it sets him a goal to achieve and shows the club haven’t wrote him off this season!

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12 Jan 2019 20:29:30
I think he more means about how injury prone the other 3,are bar vvd! It’s frustrating how soft and fragile they are I have to agree although play gomez with vvd when fit.

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12 Jan 2019 17:20:08
Great little player but we don’t want him or need him! Italy his next stop his missus will be p#%#%d 😂.

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07 Jan 2019 19:23:01
The bitchin on this tread 😂😂😂😂😂.

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13 Feb 2019 12:27:13
Osg seems a nice bloke I don’t think hate is in his vocabulary! He will have them up for it no doubt but the wind has been sucked from their sails for now!

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12 Feb 2019 00:11:05
Missing vvd so will lovern be back?

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08 Feb 2019 14:13:39
Not a hope Gerard he’s done nothing yet!

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06 Feb 2019 19:03:12
If what I read there he’s a absolute gent and your right knockin is off our perch was a compliment! I look forward to reading some more 👍🏼.

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06 Feb 2019 18:53:26
Lovely tris been looking forward to
This thanks pal.

Jay dub red

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate. Just a taster until I get a chance to write a full article on him.}