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30 Jul 2018 14:25:21
I see rumours have appeared on Twitter that we have made an official approach for Pulisic in the wake of Chelsea also make their intentions clear on wanting to sign him. Anyone know if there's any truth in these rumours? I think he'd be a great signing and I'd be more excited about bringing him in than the likes of Fekir, but it's The Firm who are announcing this on Twitter and I'm not sure that their rumours are overly credible. Thanks guys.
1.) 30 Jul 2018 14:42:41
Leave that rumour on Twitter my friend
Up the pool.
{Ed002's Note - The song "Up The Pool" was about Blackpool.}
2.) 30 Jul 2018 14:45:33
What I don’t understand is why not? Especially given all the talk of his relationship with Klopp and also the fact that this his Age, Nationality and skill/ potential fits our business model direction and he obviously knows Klopps system.
The only think I can assume is that Klopp sees something in him that doesn’t make him the right fit for what he is doing, the league or how we play.
You can always make space for a world class teenager, especially when that kid knows, likes and respects the manager. I’m just intrigued as to why it’s an insta NO when his name comes up?
3.) 30 Jul 2018 14:56:37
You ever been Ed02 nice donkey ride and a tram trip all good
Up the pool.
{Ed002's Note - I went once a few years ago.}
4.) 30 Jul 2018 15:14:13
The Firm = FKFB.
Pay no attention ðŸ‘.
5.) 30 Jul 2018 15:39:00
Cos we have three right wingers - which is his best position. If we spend again, it would be for a naturally central player surely?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not made any approach for Pulisic.}
6.) 30 Jul 2018 15:42:46
They can link all the players they want but who gets dropped for Pulisic? I think the club is a victim of its own success in recent Windows. Pulisic is a good player and i would love him at Liverpool but he has come on the market at the wrong time for our squad imo.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has made no approach for Pulisic.}
7.) 30 Jul 2018 16:01:20
I fully understand that Edd02, I just don't think people can be happy for what we have here.
We have a great squad and I can't wait for the season to start.
{Ed002's Note - I still expect another GK to arrive but Liverpool have done pretty well this summer so far.}
8.) 30 jul 2018 16:04:35
the summer of "liverpool has made no approach for pulisic "
feel for your ed2.
9.) 30 Jul 2018 16:12:05
Diego Cavalieri is a free agent again.
10.) 30 Jul 2018 16:50:23
Ed do you not think Grabara will be given chances then and push Karius as back up?
{Ed002's Note - Grabara is a kid who should not even be considered because he won't get a chance - a couple of years and he will follow Ward out of the club. I don't see Karius staying. Why do I need to keep explaining this over and over?}
11.) 30 Jul 2018 17:35:04
Didn't Klopp say categorically that it's best for his development to stay at Dortmund and that there may be a possibility in the future? So clearly he believes that Pulisic isn't good enough to start for us currently. We can't expect to bring him to compete with Shaqiri for the back up role.
12.) 30 Jul 2018 17:34:14
Question for Ed02.
I am aware that liverpool have not made an approach for pulisic, for whatever reason. What I keep reading people say is how keen FSG would be to sign him because he is american. I am led to believe that the additional revenue from shirt sales is negligable, so is there actually any logic to what has now become a cliche?
{Ed002's Note - The income from shirt sales would no doubt increase in the United States but that would not benefit Liverpool at all. The shirt sale money goes to New Balance or whatever they are called now. Two clubs have shirt deals that benefit the clubs and not the manufacturers - Real Madrid and Barcelona. FSG are not going to commit to investing in Pulisic for shirt sales. If the money was to be commited to buy him, as it stands now it would be as a replacement for Salah. Add him to the list the fans are still expecting (and no doubt will) join before next week - Dybala, Asensio, Dembele and Mbappe.}
13.) 30 Jul 2018 19:27:57
Oh god. Groundhog Day again eh Ed002? How do you do it day after day?! 🤦â€â™‚ï¸.
14.) 30 Jul 2018 19:33:28
Some folks are so excited by chasing new signings that they don't think about where the player would fit, or if he's even needed. They just see a name linked in the paper and immediately want him signed. The thrill of the chase I reckon.
15.) 30 Jul 2018 19:44:05
Think Grabara would be the perfect 3rd choice goalie, huge potential. Will be back up by the start of next season and will push Allison in a few years.
{Ed002's Note - Well clubs should look to use reliable aging third choice goalkeepers who can help work with the youth players - and even better if they are home grown. That is why Chelsea opted for Rob Green. Liverpool could do worse than look to someone like Ross Turnbull for such a role - but seemingly want to waste the career of another younger goalkeeper by using Grabara who won't be played.}
16.) 30 Jul 2018 19:33:28
Some folks are so excited by chasing new signings that they don't think about where the player would fit, or if he's even needed. They just see a name linked in the paper and immediately want him signed. The thrill of the chase I reckon.
17.) 30 Jul 2018 19:51:49
If Liverpool wanted him why would they wait for Chelsea to go for him? Doesn’t make sense that.
18.) 30 Jul 2018 20:06:06
No point getting Turnbull or Green in when Grabara is already better. He'll learn from the coaches and the likws of Allison.
{Ed002's Note - It doesn’t matter how good he is - he wont play. It would be Ward all over again and Klopp screwing up the career of yet another young players.}
19.) 30 Jul 2018 20:46:47
Yet another young players?
20.) 30 Jul 2018 21:46:51
Klopp is no more guilty of screwing up the careers of young players than other managers. That's just modern football. Buy potential and hope you find a gem. Unfortunately it rarely happens.
21.) 30 Jul 2018 21:15:59
Have to agree with Ed 002 on this one. We need an experienced old pro as number 2 as Alisson will be our first choice for the next 10 years. We need someone who is happy to sit on the bench and help out with the kids.
22.) 30 Jul 2018 22:45:59
Regards grabara, ya'll are miasing the point that it is nonsenaical having him as 3rd keeper because he literally WONT PLAY. Sorry, not yelling just emphasizing this. He needs to play to develop. He won't get better simply practicising xaily and then sitting in his #1s on game day. That is why the #3 keeper is often an older guy who knows moat of hia time ia going to be on the bench. But the impact he can have around the club out of fans eyes is important too.
Regards pulisic. To be simple about it, if he is keen I rekon we go for it on a deal that binga him here in 2019 or if possible, then preferably 2020. My personal opinion is that he ia going to be a magical player!
23.) 30 Jul 2018 22:49:21
Would Grabara play in under 23's games?
24.) 30 Jul 2018 23:41:43
Karius is 2nd GK and Grabbara is 3rd GK. No need to add a GK.
25.) 31 Jul 2018 23:04:07
Man, people are hard nuts. Grabbara is young, promising and developing. If he's stuck as 3rd GK then he won't play. It's the same that happened with Ward. Was stuck as 3rd and everyone was yelling at the injustice of not sending him out on loan for him to get game time.
Grabbara needs to either stay with U-23s or go out on loan. Needs to keep developing.
27 Aug 2017 18:41:38
Seen a few rumours saying LFC will make a deadline day move for Aguero if Origi goes to Spurs. I assume this is absolute nonsense? Would love to see Aguero with us though!
1.) 27 Aug 2017 19:31:31
Wish we signed him in 2010 (I think it was? ) when we were apparently linked with him. Don't know if there was anything in the rumour but came across it a while back.
2.) 27 Aug 2017 19:37:45
It's happened, we've been linked to Aguero, the run continues.
3.) 27 Aug 2017 21:31:59
Aguero wouldn't get in the team atm. I'd be pleased if he did join however.
4.) 27 Aug 2017 21:33:35
It was a close call Alvy 😎.
5.) 27 Aug 2017 22:14:10
A random link to Solano, Aimar or Simao and the circle is complete.
6.) 27 Aug 2017 22:34:01
dont forget Konoplanyka.
7.) 27 Aug 2017 22:46:12
I thought his missus wanted London.
8.) 27 Aug 2017 22:58:10
That it was Ron, but we made it in the end.
9.) 27 Aug 2017 23:07:41
Don't forget Christian Tello spotted at Lime Street! 😂.
10.) 27 Aug 2017 23:08:14
Or Turan.
11.) 27 Aug 2017 23:17:18
What about honda!
12.) 27 Aug 2017 23:33:53
Certain I saw Taribo West at the game today ðŸ˜.
13.) 28 Aug 2017 07:08:49
I'd ask about Taribo West's age but that never mattered to him before.
14.) 28 Aug 2017 08:37:30
Yarmolenko?
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14 Jul 2017 08:19:32
Two horse race for Aubemeyang between Liverpool and Chelsea apparently according to press this morning! I understand that Klopp and Aubs are not best buddies!?
We'll probably just buy an Aubergine and a Boomerang!
{Ed002's Note - It has cokme from the Sun apparently. I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool to Dortmund although both Chelsea and Milan are interested - although Milan don't see value in the price. I suspect he is also thinking about patching things up with Dortmund. We will have to see.}
1.) 14 Jul 2017 09:48:36
Ed, we've probably not felt the need to approach Dortmund.
Gone straight to player and agent instead.
Videos compiled
Tactics discussed
Bonus package offered
Some point we will ask if all that's okay with them.
2.) 14 Jul 2017 11:11:45
Thanks for the reply Ed002
As much as I'd love to see this happen, even if Klopp was interested, Aubs goes against FSG's apparent ethos of signing players with some sort of re-sale value.
Although goals wasn't really our main problem last season, well scoring them at least wasn't, conceding on the on the it her hand. so it's not like we are desperate for a player of his calibre, it would still be the 'marquee' signing that some fans expect to see in transfer windows!
I guess Liverpool will always be linked with him until his future is decided.
{Ed002's Note - Ethos?}
3.) 14 Jul 2017 12:21:48
Ethos - Strategy
Potato - Tomato :-)
{Ed002's Note - Right. I see}
4.) 14 Jul 2017 13:46:00
AC Milan's spending scares me 😳.
11 Jul 2017 10:24:49
Hi Ed's
Have LFC shown any interest at all ..................
{Ed002's Note - You are wasting everyone';s time asking about random players.}
07 Jun 2017 12:21:26
Latest reports suggesting Saints now want £75m for VVD which LFC refuse to meet. They're hoping to trigger a bidding war, knowing that Citeh could quite easily afford that without making the slightest dent in their transfer fund. We could probably get Aubemeyang for that money with a bit of convincing from Klopp.
Do we think the VVD deal will fall through? I have nasty feeling we're going to be priced out of both Salah and Van Dyjk deals? Which given the press coverage of this would make us a laughing stock!
1.) 07 Jun 2017 12:33:40
He rejected City and I don't know why would City come back to him again?
2.) 07 Jun 2017 13:17:55
This rumoured price originates with Th Mirror.
I'm saying nothing more.
3.) 07 Jun 2017 13:21:03
Heavy metal, so you are more concerned about other fans thinking we are a laughing stock, than getting the right players for the right price. Just let the club do their business before panic sets in.
4.) 07 Jun 2017 13:39:38
Heavy, I propose you stop caring about what other fans think or what other clubs are doing in the TW cos news flash: they don't care about what we are doing. Remember also that, VVD came to us via his agent. We did not go to him initially so the ball is in our court if this rumour is true which I doubt judging by its source. Just let the club do it's work. We will be fine.
5.) 07 Jun 2017 15:49:19
Great stuff! And I've never really worried about what other fans think, it was more a point I was makig which is mainly around our fans giving it the big'un on Twitter that we have our man over Citeh! But we could potentially lose out on two of Klopp's main targets! I have absolute faith that both Klopp and FSG will get the right players in for our wonderful club come close of transfer window! :) cheers guys!
6.) 07 Jun 2017 16:48:50
I remember Southampton putting silly transfer fees on all our previous signings from them, £40mil for Lovren, £35mil Lallana, £25mil Clyne. It's just what they do like they have a moan to the premier league, it's just to appease fans and try and get a few more quid in negotiations. We will likely end up getting VVD for between £45-55mil possibly £40mil ish with add ons up to £50mil odd. Transfers are complex, and clubs use every bargaining tool they can to get best deal for there club and appease fans. Suarez to Barcelona now was it £75 mil or £63 mil. sound familiar?
{Ed002's Note - You are an embarrassing idiot. If Liverpool has yet again broken the rules about tapping a player up it is LIVERPOOL AT FAULT AND LIVERPOOL THAT DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED. All of this trying to blame someone else is cretinous. The club has to change and start to behave responsibly.}
7.) 07 Jun 2017 18:36:03
Bit harsh Ed,
I wasn't saying Southampton are to blame, but also I'm not saying Liverpool are guilty or innocent either, we're yet to know what's gone on and when the news broke one of the Eds said there was no reason to believe anything has been done by us, if that's changed then I'm not defending us as we've been guilty in the of not conducting ourselves well in the past, hence the Fulham situation and the issues with the youth ban. I'd just hope that the club wouldn't be so stupid as to put themselves in that situation again.
My point I was trying to get across, and maybe poorly, was that selling teams often try to appease fans by upping the transfer price to when there in a difficult position to keep the player, as we did with Suarez. It was meant more of a go at all the doom and gloomers jumping on the "we've lost out again" bandwagon.
{Ed002's Note - The club and the manager both have a history of tapping up players.}
8.) 07 Jun 2017 18:52:37
I knew we'd had our problems in the past but admittedly I didn't know Klopp has. It just seems so ridiculous that a club our size is still tapping up players after it being publicly known in the past. Wouldn't someone who's been involved in it in the past be sacked and replaced? Sorry if that seems a silly question Ed but in a multi million pound business surely heads must roll if somebody within is causing damage to a business reputation.
{Ed025's Note - its a poor show john..
9.) 07 Jun 2017 19:05:29
"Liverpool Football Club would like to put on record our regret over recent media speculation regarding Southampton Football Club and player transfers between the two clubs. We apologise to the owner, board of directors and fans of Southampton for any misunderstanding regarding Virgil van Dijk. We respect Southampton’s position and can confirm we have ended any interest in the player. "
Oh well! Looks like we have lost out on VVD! Marvellous!
10.) 07 Jun 2017 19:14:08
So it seems Ed sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought it was generally just a ploy to appease fans as many teams have in the past. I've got to say now it's just broke that all interest in VVD has ended that's it's very disappointing that because past mistakes have not been learnt we've now had to pull out of a top target and a top player in my opinion by all accounts who wanted to play for us. I just hope this doesn't have a knock on effect on our plans this summer with other clubs.
Just a final question Ed as I know your going to get hammered not that news has broke, what would tapping up be classed as?, I know a secret meeting with player and agent would be, but say a chance meeting at a football event an the manager saying I'd love you in our team or for example an international team mate saying our Sanger rates you, come sign for us, would such comments like that class as tapping up? Sorry for the ignorance I just don't understand the ins and outs.
{Ed002's Note - Agents can and do talk to clubs all of the time about the players they represent and that is fine. A representative of a club making any approach to a player (either though an agent or not) is tapping up.}
06 Jun 2017 14:10:15
Anyone else fed up with the constant three links between Liverpool and Lacazette! Been going for three years! Surely this ain't going to happen and is purely speculation!? Are we really in for a world class striker anyway?
1.) 06 Jun 2017 15:15:30
Lacazette ain't coming her, IMO.
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30 Aug 2017 17:50:55
I've got a friend who works in finance and does some work for the saints, he's also a saints fan. so pinch of salt needed here or a bucket load, but he is absolutely adament that Southampton will not, under any circumstances sell VVD to Liverpool. They are still seething and it will make a mockery of their complain to the FA. Be interesting to see if money talks if we do make a massive bid mind, but as it stands. VVD will never play for Liverpool, unless he goes to another club first.
In fact, it looks like us directly getting any more players from Southampton in the next few years is now a massive no go. He also went on to say that LFC are fully aware of this and haven't even re-opened any negotiators with Southampton over VVD as they know it's an impossibility. This same friend also said we will sign Clyne 6 months before it happened but also said we were close to signing to Rodriguez so he's certainly not in the know. Fingers crossed though, if we do get him I'll buy him a "Mary Poppins" T-shirt!
30 Jun 2017 13:18:46
ESPN and Times Journo's are also reporting that personal terms have been agreed with NK.
25 Jun 2017 08:41:11
£70m for Liverpool and £56m for Chelsea! We've more chance of signing Dick Van Dyke.
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14 Jul 2017 12:21:48
Ethos - Strategy
Potato - Tomato :-)
{Ed002's Note - Right. I see}
14 Jul 2017 11:11:45
Thanks for the reply Ed002
As much as I'd love to see this happen, even if Klopp was interested, Aubs goes against FSG's apparent ethos of signing players with some sort of re-sale value.
Although goals wasn't really our main problem last season, well scoring them at least wasn't, conceding on the on the it her hand. so it's not like we are desperate for a player of his calibre, it would still be the 'marquee' signing that some fans expect to see in transfer windows!
I guess Liverpool will always be linked with him until his future is decided.
{Ed002's Note - Ethos?}
07 Jun 2017 19:05:29
"Liverpool Football Club would like to put on record our regret over recent media speculation regarding Southampton Football Club and player transfers between the two clubs. We apologise to the owner, board of directors and fans of Southampton for any misunderstanding regarding Virgil van Dijk. We respect Southampton’s position and can confirm we have ended any interest in the player. "
Oh well! Looks like we have lost out on VVD! Marvellous!
07 Jun 2017 15:49:19
Great stuff! And I've never really worried about what other fans think, it was more a point I was makig which is mainly around our fans giving it the big'un on Twitter that we have our man over Citeh! But we could potentially lose out on two of Klopp's main targets! I have absolute faith that both Klopp and FSG will get the right players in for our wonderful club come close of transfer window! :) cheers guys!