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01 Sep 2017 10:09:43
Such as shame we couldn't recruit a solid CB this window to improve on the lads at the back. Could prove very costly if we continue to have the calamities in defense we've all seen for far too long now.

I do however think when all is said and done that football has changed dramatically over the last decade and with the exception of Serie A, there aren't many of the more traditional type CB's out there anymore. So aside from our failed approach for VVD, who could we have realistically brought in that would be a significant improvement on what's already in place?

With Can and Coutinho still with us and the addition of AOC, are we likely to see Can used back in the CB position?

G-Force

1.) 01 Sep 2017 10:16:25
No, we aren't, he is not a CB.

We also won't see AOC playing in goal, just to clear that up, in case there was any confusion. Oh and Moreno won't be Manager either.


2.) 01 Sep 2017 10:22:24
GF, Can is useless at CB as that experiment failed miserably under BR so why do that again when we have a true CB in Gomez ready to go? Also, Ed01 has sad that class CB's are very rare these days hence, teams who have them don't wanna sell and those who need them have to either pay up or improvise. City have spent near 200m on CB's alone and they are still crap defensively. Klopp wanted VVD and since he messed it up all on his own, Saints wouldn't sell at any price to anyone. What can you do? Klopp wanted VVD or nobody and I like that as we will not just settle for a warm body at CB. Now we will have to continue with improving those we have at the club now who mind you, have kept 7 clea sheets in the last 9 games in the PL BUT if people wanna go on and on about it then so be it.


 

 

20 Jul 2017 11:59:49
Ok ok ok, I'm clearly thick as sh** but I really don't get this whole "tapping up" business in the first place. If a club is interested in a player, why not just go straight to his contracted club and submit a formal offer and if it's accepted by that club then it's up to the player to decide if he's interested on joining your club or not.

G-Force

1.) 20 Jul 2017 12:05:26
The objective of "tapping up" is basically to ensure the player wants to come before wasting time making bids, but it’s mainly so we can try and get the player to force a move and hopefully get a reduced fee because he wants to leave.
Bites us on the ass every time yet we will never learn smh.


2.) 20 Jul 2017 12:35:51
I think it's perfectly reasonable for a club to contact a player's agent and ask them "If we were to make a bid, would you client be interested in talking to us? "

What is not reasonable is to talk directly to the player themselves, discuss money and terms with them and then announce to the media what your intentions are with regards to that player without ever contacting his club to inform them of any interest. All in the hope that the player tells his club he wants to leave and to leave them with little to no option but to sell him for cheaper then they think is reasonable.

No wonder clubs are getting annoyed at us. All we are doing is shooting ourselves in the foot every time we act like this.


3.) 20 Jul 2017 13:08:05
Cheers for the replies guys. still don't the concept behind trying to find out if a player is interested in joining before making a formal bid, like we could easily go out and make a bid for Messi and he just turns around and says he's not interested in joining us. This whole trying to find out or unsettle a player (tapping up) just seems a complete wasted exercise.

I do get the concept of tapping up of younger players, such as takes place in American sports quite a lot, "Join our team and we'll buy your Mom a house" sort of thing.

Anyways, ramble over.

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing wrong with finding out if a player is interested at all. And that is perfectly fine. What Liverpool have done repeated is unsettle and illegally approach players of other clubs. It is unprofessional in the extreme. What I don't get is the fans want to keep talking about this.}


4.) 20 Jul 2017 13:59:13
The club can't attract the player by other means!
Too many suitors for the player!
Force the selling club to listen to offers!


5.) 20 Jul 2017 14:02:51
RedDawn, that is incorrect. If you are interested in a player, your first port of call is to the player's club and not to his agent.


6.) 20 Jul 2017 15:42:48
Is the process different in other countries? I only ask because it seems odd that Klopp is doing at Liverpool but there was never any mention of underhand tactics whilst he was at Dortmund (correct me if I'm wrong) . If it's the same process he must have just forgot the rules but if it's different and in Germany you can approach the player then it could be a genuine mistake?

{Ed002's Note - You think FIFA rules don't apply in Germany and Klopp made a simple mistake? Brilliant.}


7.) 20 Jul 2017 16:12:32
Not what I said but I guess i'll take it. Thanks for your time.


8.) 21 Jul 2017 23:22:27
My two cents - Dortmund albeit not the best, have been a top well known club for years and players would want to go their without underhand tactics being applied.

Unfortunately because Liverpool have been so 'off the radar' for so long and we are so unpredictable in our league position. Players aren't as keen to joining us. We have the History but we don’t have the Present so to speak.

Players want champions league and Dortmund rarely had a problem getting that and did better than us when we did occasionally get into it.


 

 

11 Aug 2015 10:46:23
Eds, can this be moved back to banter page 1?

Cheers for the mixed responses guys. I knew I'd be stirring sup some heat with that post and obviously I've got to reply to most.

ED001 - yeah I did forget about Sahin, not surprising though :) and yep, my bad on Moreno but I'd rather it was a loan.

Mighty Reds & Teddy - I'm all about giving players time, that being both game time and time to gel with each other but my focus here is purely on the impact of BRs transfers. not players potential ability or not as may be the case.he's sign a lot of players for good money that he's either dropped, farmed out at a loss or loan or played out of their natural position, so in my mind I would judge them as poor signings.

Essexred - Like above, I'm not saying the players are failures.sure none of them can be failures on the basis that they signed for Liverpool. but did/have/will they work out? In the most part, so far I say no for most of them.
-Fabio Borini
-Joe Allen
-Oussama Assaidi
-Luis Alberto
-Iago Aspas
-Mamadou Sakho
-Kolo Toure
-Aly Cissokho
-Victor Moses
-Alberto Moreno
-Javier Manquillo
-Mario Balotelli
-Rickie Lambert

Muscatred - there's like 22 players there. do you honestly believe they will become players that will either take us back to the top or be of interest to last seasons top for? Don't say Coutinho. I've already said he's done good.

Pommy - that's pretty much my point. even if a player does look like he has potential, BR will make a sh*te of him some how like poor coaching, not playing or playing out of position.

User013 - I don't see what's so laughable about my Coutinho comment, the lads a good player and over the last several years we've not managed to hold on to our good players since. signing a new contract does not mean much if Real/Barca come in with 50+ million

Kizz- yes Emre can fail on the basis that BR either does not play him or plays him out of position. I don't see that as a sucessful signing.it's like if we signed Messi, great player but if we don't play him or play him out of position how is that a successful signing?

Puzzle Red- Coutinho / Sturridge = Success :)

So my point being is that I for 300mil spent, I believe BR has made poor transfers since he's spent a lot of money on players that he either did not play, played or plays out of position and mainly players that I don't think would be of interest to last season top 4.

G-Force

{Ed001's Note - Ed033 is currently working on a live newsfeed for the profiles, so you can continue to see replies easily for threads that have fallen off the front page.}


1.) 11 Aug 2015 11:29:15
Based on not played/played out of position/who won't cut it I agree with the list.But in that list there is only one player who can help is in getting back to top 4,that player is Sakho.
Also we can add Markovic to the above list.

But as Eds mentioned Rodger's simply doesn't evaluate his transfer targets before signing them.He is like a small kid with money who buys random candies without checking its taste,then throws away the candies which he doesn't like.


2.) 11 Aug 2015 17:01:40
Do people REALLY believe Rodgers decides how much to spend on a player?
It doesn't work like that, he hasn't spent 300 million, the club has spent that money.


 

 

10 Aug 2015 17:33:42
So there's been a lot of talk about yesterdays performance, who should play, who should not, challenging or not for the tile and the money spent by BR over the last 2/3 years.

I cannot believe that that team that lined out yesterday could possibly ever challenge for league, there simply is not enough top class quality there (with the exception of few) and even those who would possibly get into a top for side, will not doubt be sold off and replaced by two or three over priced flops.

Let's take a look at how many BR transfers we would regard as a good purchase (AKA a player who plays regularly, plays well more often then not and players who we'd expect would get into the first 11 of last seasons tops four).
-Fabio Borini = fail
-Joe Allen = fail
-Oussama Assaidi = fail
-Daniel Sturridge = hampered by injury but good signing all the same
-Philippe Coutinho = so far so good but how long can we hold on to him?
-Simon Mignolet = fail
-Luis Alberto = fail
-Iago Aspas = fail
-Mamadou Sakho = fail
-Kolo Toure = fail
-Tiago Ilori = fail
-Aly Cissokho(loan) = fail
-Victor Moses = fail
-Dejan Lovren = fail
-Emre Can = fail (purely because BR won't start him in his rightful position)
-Adam Lallana = fail
-Alberto Moreno(loan) = fail
-Javier Manquillo(loan) = fail
-Mario Balotelli = fail
-Rickie Lambert = fail
-Lazar Markovic = fail
-Divock Origi = fail (still young though but cost enough)

add to the above the new boys of this summer so far. early days I know but I would not expect last seasons top four feel they missed out on what we brought in
-Christian Benteke -James Milner -Danny Ings -Roberto Firmino - Nathaniel Clyne -Joe Gomez -Adam Bogdan.


Now's that' probably the longest rant I've ever posted but it's just an opinion that I'd like to share and encourage you all give your own thoughts. by the way. €300million in 3 years and you should be easily challenging but for me it's a mid table manager buying mid table players.

G-Force

{Ed001's Note - Moreno is not on loan, were you thinking of Sahin, who I notice you missed off.}


1.) 10 Aug 2015 17:46:20
Some players you are judging too early, players from last summer deserve this season to prove themselves.


2.) 10 Aug 2015 17:46:22
Many of those players aren't 'failures'. If the manager doesn't pick them, plays them out of position or can't get the best out of them that's another matter.


3.) 10 Aug 2015 17:48:11
10 of the above people you mention are failures. Others are either successes or players who are still finding their way.


4.) 10 Aug 2015 17:56:40
Agree he's bought a lot of mediocre players and spent a fortune, I think lovren will be good with better coaching and llori will be a star if br ever gives him a chance, can will be fine and markovic if played in proper position, just my opinions guys,


5.) 10 Aug 2015 17:55:37
What a load of cobblers.

Without going into the rest of it (which is also largely cobblers) the Coutinho point is laughable and self-defeating. If we struggle to hold onto him (and I'm not sure we are struggling given he signed a new deal) it's because he is playing well. Very well. And has been for some time.

I'm not a Captain Colgate advocate but any and all arguments for and against should be grounded in common sense. Yours aren't and are clearly not balanced.

Great character but i'd gave to say your post is a fail.


6.) 10 Aug 2015 19:05:47
Most cringeworthy post I've ever seen. Emre Can fail? G-force, change your name to Eeyore already.


7.) 10 Aug 2015 19:16:43
G-Force, if you're going to cast aside so many with just a one word disparaging remark then at least give credit with the same measure of definiteness and call Coutinho and Sturridge what they are - a success. Just saying oh yeah he's alright but we'll probably lose him soon is hardly a fair assessment of a successful transfer.

Despite this, I do agree with the underlying point of your post which is over the last few years we've wasted vast amounts of money on transfers which haven't worked out.

Hopefully, we see this change this year - I'm optimistic about Milner, Firmino, Benteke and Clyne.


8.) 10 Aug 2015 20:15:29
What a joke.


9.) 10 Aug 2015 20:28:17
Win the first game of the season and you're still thrown your toys out of the pram #somepeopleareneverhappy


10.) 10 Aug 2015 20:38:58
JEEZ if we win the premiership people will be in here saying if it wasn't for Rogers we'd have won it by the end of October and by double the points and still be calling the players failures after 1 match on the bench (Origi) and the like. Or finding something negative to say about the ones who don't fail. People weren't calling Sturridge a failure when he was picked up cheap and almost helped us win the title. People need to get over themselves in the rush to slate BR and everything within a 10 mile radius of him. So much for YNWA, the only bunching I can see is people surrounding the manager/squad to slag them off.


11.) 10 Aug 2015 21:13:47
Um we have spent over 300 million in 3 years. We bloody well should be challenging for the title!


12.) 10 Aug 2015 22:59:16
G-Force I would suggest you go back to your old post on 13 Jan 2015 13:44:21. You had an opinion of giving players more time, what changed your mind ?

{Ed007's Note - Hi I've got a special delivery of a life here, addressed to a 'teddy'......?


13.) 11 Aug 2015 07:53:00
Please people, no need for hash tagging. Its not twitter.


14.) 11 Aug 2015 09:55:08
Cheers for the mixed responses guys. I knew I'd be stirring sup some heat with that post and obviously I've got to reply to most.

ED001 - yeah I did forget about Sahin, not surprising though :) and yep, my bad on Moreno but I'd rather it was a loan.

Mighty Reds & Teddy - I'm all about giving players time, that being both game time and time to gel with each other but my focus here is purely on the impact of BRs transfers. not players potential ability or not as may be the case.he's sign a lot of players for good money that he's either dropped, farmed out at a loss or loan or played out of their natural position, so in my mind I would judge them as poor signings.

Essexred - Like above, I'm not saying the players are failures.sure none of them can be failures on the basis that they signed for Liverpool. but did/have/will they work out? In the most part, so far I say no for most of them.
-Fabio Borini
-Joe Allen
-Oussama Assaidi
-Luis Alberto
-Iago Aspas
-Mamadou Sakho
-Kolo Toure
-Aly Cissokho
-Victor Moses
-Alberto Moreno
-Javier Manquillo
-Mario Balotelli
-Rickie Lambert

Muscatred - there's like 22 players there. do you honestly believe they will become players that will either take us back to the top or be of interest to last seasons top for? Don't say Coutinho. I've already said he's done good.

Pommy - that's pretty much my point. even if a player does look like he has potential, BR will make a sh*te of him some how like poor coaching, not playing or playing out of position.

User013 - I don't see what's so laughable about my Coutinho comment, the lads a good player and over the last several years we've not managed to hold on to our good players since. signing a new contract does not mean much if Real/Barca come in with 50+ million

Kizz- yes Emre can fail on the basis that BR either does not play him or plays him out of position. I don't see that as a sucessful signing.it's like if we signed Messi, great player but if we don't play him or play him out of position how is that a successful signing?

Puzzle Red- Coutinho / Sturridge = Success :)

So my point being is that I for 300mil spent, I believe BR has made poor transfers since he's spent a lot of money on players that he either did not play, played or plays out of position and mainly players that I don't think would be of interest to last season top 4.


 

 

13 Jan 2015 13:44:21
Right so, let me get something of my chest. Like most, I have been far from pleased with Liverpools performances this season (considering the impressive displays for the most part of last season). But all I read here on a regular basis is the usual drivel about get rid of this player, get rid of that player, get rid of the manager.

A significant amount of young(ish) talent joined joined the team in the summer, yes, they may not be impressing like Suarez or Sanchez for that matter in their first half of a season with the club but the introduction of this many players was only going to cause a lack of understanding and cohesion between the current and new stock of players. Given time, even Balotelli will eventually gel with the squad and start scoring. So why, six months into the season following last do you all want rid of Rodgers and a multitude of the players? What is a new manager going to bring other than a new crop of players who once again will need to gel and the team go through yet another "rebuilding" few years?

I remember the days when we were all about "Give em a chance", that was supporting Liverpool, not the trash that gets bandied out now.

G-Force

{Ed001's Note - so the fact that he signed all these players is not his fault then?}


1.) 13 Jan 2015 14:23:19
Not to mention his embarrassing press conferences. His marginalising of some key players. His lack of any cohesive plan to develop and integrate the younger players from the U21s. His tactical 'stubbornness'.


2.) What happened with the Remy deal did it relate to balotelli coming? ? ?

{Ed002's Note - The manager decided he did not want to complete the transfer.}


3.) Ed do you not think most of the new signing are starting to look like good signings and I do think mario will become good

{Ed002's Note - I am not convinced by all of them.}


4.) 13 Jan 2015 14:34:32
It is irrelevant whether or not I am a Rodgers fan but , G-Force , you have glossed over the fact that he chose to replace a world class player with nine players of potential . He is paid to manage situations like that and he clearly failed to do so . He will of course blame everything and everyone but himself .

The price for failure , especially with American owners , can only be one thing .


5.) Maybe he should have bought players that were ready for the first team. We spent 120 mil and were pretty much a worse first 11 than last year. If i had promised the title to the owners the first thing I would have done was buy a world class striker and keeper.


6.) 13 Jan 2015 14:38:11
{Ed001's Note - so the fact that he signed all these players is not his fault then?}
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Are you sure its his fault though?, am not arguing, nor am I a big BR fan, so I am not defending him, but I think for the sake of fairness we can't pin all the blame on him. I don't understand how this transfer committee works (do you ?) , the fact that its a committee it means not all the decisions will be his, he would've had to compromise; there would've been policies set by some "body" and they have to adhere to these policies, one of them might have been , don't buy one expensive player, but buy 3 cheaper with potential so we can resell etc etc . Also the Sanchez debacle , I won't think BR was doing the negotiation , whoever was doing it in my opinion could've done more, ok he want London, but convince him he would be special at Liverpool, probably offer more wages etc , we finished last season second , so we would've been in a powerful position to negotiate considering at the time, Arsenal had to go through a qualifier to get to CL.

{Ed002's Note - Decisions to buy players is based on consensus and not compromise. There are no odd "policies" driving the purchase of the players as you suggest. Rodgers does not undertake any negotiation - and Sanchez was not interested in a move to Liverpool.}


7.) Someone just had an argument with me about the net spend of Rodgers this season and my reply to that person was how much more money should Rodgers have been given on top of the £117m or so total spent on transfers alone on 9 new players this season and how many more players Rodgers should have signed because of his net spend? Where is the bloody sense?

That is why the net spend argument is such a load of rubbish. So Rodgers should have got another £117m on top of the original amount for another 9 players just so that he will have a massive net spend and put the club into an even bigger debt ridden hole plus send the wage bill into far beyond into the red. I just do not get the net spend mentality.

The financial outlay this season is one which this club has never seen before and we are where exactly this season? In what shape or form should that be acceptable for anyone connected with Liverpool FC?


8.) Yes problem is with signing players who are ready for the first 11 they come with big wages and where trying to lower are wage bill but also how many of these players are Rodgers first choice we all know we wanted begovic and instead we got mignolet


9.) Well then Rodgers should have declined on signing Mignolet and stuck with Reina. He could have kept Agger too instead of signing Lovren plus held onto Martin Kelly who is having a very good season at Palace and said no to Manquillo. Wisdom first team regular at WBA? Rejecting Remy and saying yes to Balotelli?

Cleggy1983, let's not try and sugar coat things please.


10.) Reins wanted to leave . I don't agree with all he does but I just think he deserves us to stick with him till end of season and judge him then if not where no better than the mancs


11.) Cleggy1983, the negatives outweigh the positives. Rodgers clearly will get til the end of the season but he has proven is that the LFC job is far to big for him.

The mancs are ahead of us so with more injuries than any other team this season so to use that as an bargaining tool clearly shows how deluded some people are when it comes to Rodgers. He will not even admit that what ever he did for most of the first half of the season tactics wise, team selection etc is the reason why we are where we are. he would rather balme it on players settling in, transition or not finding the right system etc.

Rodgers will never change, a leopard never changes its spots. Even Benitez is proof of this!


12.) It's not deluded I just think with what he did last season we should support him while he's incharge and this season is far from a write off where still in 3 cups and only 5 points off 4th where always stronger second half of season and with the returning Sturidge we have reasons to look up


13.) Cleggy1983

Your correct to say how crap we've been to be 5pts off 4th isn't bad going really.

But unfortunately I don't see Rodgers being the man to take us forward.
Through his stubbornness we find ourselves being so far out of the title race.

He bought players in we didn't really need.
I like markovic and think he will be good but did we really need him and send Jordan ibe on loan?

Also when I read about origi coming back and spending even more on a player to sit on the bench, that would just sum up Brendon's stupidity.


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2017 17:07:55
Also to add to my annoyance. to your understanding, he prefers to play in the Champions League. All players preference is to be playing in the Champions League.

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31 Aug 2017 17:05:32
Annoying when people just repeat what has been said on this page hours ago!

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31 Aug 2017 14:14:11
ITK to share, more like IDK.

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31 Aug 2017 14:07:01
Good deal all round. We should've cut the losses last season, same with Sakho. We'll be seeing similar value for him next transfer round.

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20 Jul 2016 00:55:08
Disagree Redman, I generally don't think the lad isn't going to be much of an improvement on what we have already and although there is a lot of money pumped into the clubs this season, the idea of spending 32mill is inevitably going to be a waste particularly taking into our account of overspending money on players (Newcastle or not, its a Championship side) and more than likely this time next season we'll end up selling him off for 15-20.

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01 Sep 2017 10:46:38
Yep, I've pretty much said the same below Andy. VVD would have been great but it wasn't to be so I'm glad we didn't just go crazy and sign a basket case.

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01 Sep 2017 10:12:54
Ah the welsh Messi. I seem to recall that been said of Joe Allen.

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20 Jul 2017 13:08:05
Cheers for the replies guys. still don't the concept behind trying to find out if a player is interested in joining before making a formal bid, like we could easily go out and make a bid for Messi and he just turns around and says he's not interested in joining us. This whole trying to find out or unsettle a player (tapping up) just seems a complete wasted exercise.

I do get the concept of tapping up of younger players, such as takes place in American sports quite a lot, "Join our team and we'll buy your Mom a house" sort of thing.

Anyways, ramble over.

Cheers.

G-Force

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing wrong with finding out if a player is interested at all. And that is perfectly fine. What Liverpool have done repeated is unsettle and illegally approach players of other clubs. It is unprofessional in the extreme. What I don't get is the fans want to keep talking about this.}


 

 

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11 Aug 2015 10:41:38
I agree with you there Armendn. I simp,y want my team to entertain me and if they win something come the end of the season it's a bonus. A few years back we were the most entertaining team in the league.loss of Suarez, poor signings, poor tactics and a mid table mindset has changed all that.

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11 Aug 2015 09:55:08
Cheers for the mixed responses guys. I knew I'd be stirring sup some heat with that post and obviously I've got to reply to most.

ED001 - yeah I did forget about Sahin, not surprising though :) and yep, my bad on Moreno but I'd rather it was a loan.

Mighty Reds & Teddy - I'm all about giving players time, that being both game time and time to gel with each other but my focus here is purely on the impact of BRs transfers. not players potential ability or not as may be the case.he's sign a lot of players for good money that he's either dropped, farmed out at a loss or loan or played out of their natural position, so in my mind I would judge them as poor signings.

Essexred - Like above, I'm not saying the players are failures.sure none of them can be failures on the basis that they signed for Liverpool. but did/have/will they work out? In the most part, so far I say no for most of them.
-Fabio Borini
-Joe Allen
-Oussama Assaidi
-Luis Alberto
-Iago Aspas
-Mamadou Sakho
-Kolo Toure
-Aly Cissokho
-Victor Moses
-Alberto Moreno
-Javier Manquillo
-Mario Balotelli
-Rickie Lambert

Muscatred - there's like 22 players there. do you honestly believe they will become players that will either take us back to the top or be of interest to last seasons top for? Don't say Coutinho. I've already said he's done good.

Pommy - that's pretty much my point. even if a player does look like he has potential, BR will make a sh*te of him some how like poor coaching, not playing or playing out of position.

User013 - I don't see what's so laughable about my Coutinho comment, the lads a good player and over the last several years we've not managed to hold on to our good players since. signing a new contract does not mean much if Real/Barca come in with 50+ million

Kizz- yes Emre can fail on the basis that BR either does not play him or plays him out of position. I don't see that as a sucessful signing.it's like if we signed Messi, great player but if we don't play him or play him out of position how is that a successful signing?

Puzzle Red- Coutinho / Sturridge = Success :)

So my point being is that I for 300mil spent, I believe BR has made poor transfers since he's spent a lot of money on players that he either did not play, played or plays out of position and mainly players that I don't think would be of interest to last season top 4.

G-Force

 

 





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