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13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?

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1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?


2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.


4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.


5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!

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1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.


 

 

24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?

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{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}


1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.


2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!


3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.


4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.


5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!


6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.


7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.


 

 

31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!

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18 Jun 2018 20:57:10
Watching England and I must admit ed001, I thought maguire was okay - never really watched him mind. But Jesus Christ he is awful, he wins everything in the air but he's a donkey and has the pace of matip carrying van dijk.

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1.) 18 Jun 2018 21:17:47
Firmane, Maguire is one reason why England will never get anywhere in football as a whole esp. internationally. As soon as a player is able to pass the ball a bit esp. for a CB, he gets hyped up and after a few "MOTD" highlights, the gets hyped up and before you know it "could be an England call up in the offing".

To me, Maguire has always been a poor defender, a complete liability. I mean, just watch him play. He is slow, has stiff hips, gets turned without the striker even breaking a sweat and frankly lacks positioning. Yes, he can pass the ball out of the back BUT so can Mustafi, Stones, Matip, Otamendi and the list goes on, none of who I would pick over Lovren who not only can pass out the back (with both feet), he can actually defend when on his game. If as a CB, you are able to defend comfortably vs CR7 in wide areas like he did in the CL final, then you are doing something right. Maguire is is awful and LC and England are welcome to him.


2.) 18 Jun 2018 21:29:14
Honestly he wouldn't look out of place behind the wheel of a john Deere tractor. Put a bit of straw in house mouth to chew on.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 22:05:53
Spot on, MM. Loved it.


 

 

11 Jun 2018 22:25:01
Eds, excuse my ignorance. When a bid gets made, how is it made? Is it during talks, sent before talks via email or similar? And where does the fee come from, do they ask the price first or is it very much different every time? Insight is always appreciated m, I find the inner workings very interesting!

Firmane

{Ed002's Note - The process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally about a transfer and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.

Alternatively, a selling club may ask an agent to find a new club for a player and he will talk directly to poetntial selling sides about the fee, personal terms and interest.

The rest of the time agents will be on fishing trips trying to find interest in their players.

In terms of what happens when the negotiations take place, broad agreement (player available and open to discussions, understanding of the price) will already have been reached. The clubs will meet to discuss the details of the transfer fee, other costs associated with the move and the structure of the payments and any additional fees (e.g another €5M for winning the Champions League etc.) but this does not take a "few days".}


1.) 12 Jun 2018 01:19:36
Great question Firmane.
And as always, a very informative reply from ED02 and very appreciated.
Thanks.


2.) 12 Jun 2018 07:19:39
Fanatic question and answer.

Got me thinking. Do lyon want more money if he becomes a world cup winner.

Or is the agent fees a stumbling block.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 23:05:40
Good question Firmane, fantastic reply Ed2. Thank you!


4.) 11 Jun 2018 23:23:47
Great info ED, cheers. A quick one: I've often wondered if agents try to get a player to move. Do agents get paid well even if a player stays at a club for years, or is it financially beneficial for them to make transfers happen? I'm sure it's much more complicated than that, so apologies if the question is stupid.

{Ed002's Note - Some agents do look for moves for players. Some agents work on a retainer basis, others don't.}


5.) 11 Jun 2018 23:54:44
Amazing, thank you ed002!


6.) 12 Jun 2018 07:49:39
Ed002 you should just put this as a link at top of the page as you have to repeat it every transfer window.


7.) 12 Jun 2018 09:24:20
So interesting chaps. Ed002 I salute you.


 

 

10 Jun 2018 19:43:15
If anyone hasn't seen, soccer aid is on itv at the moment, always great work they do, and a good watch, although that's hardly important!
If you can't watch you can text either TEN or TWENTY to 70818 to donate that amount!
Amazing what's these people do, and it still shocks me every time I see the people it helps, we don't always appreciate how good we have it.

Firmane

1.) 10 Jun 2018 19:52:47
Agreed a great charity but what about the people that can only afford a fiver etc.
Football really does help the world. Got this match and then next week Benny balls player charity match. Good on everyone involved for both games.


2.) 10 Jun 2018 20:30:22
Serious question though, why can mark wright cross better than most prem left backs 😂.


3.) 10 Jun 2018 20:53:40
If you can only afford a fiver give them a call and donate like that, everything helps!


 

 

08 Jun 2018 23:58:26
Maybe King Kenny should offer the queen a night hood on his birthday?

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08 Jun 2018 17:26:30
It's strange I kind of hope fekir doesn't happen, so 'ITK's' will all look stupid! Or at least not until after the World Cup.
We've had about 6 medicals, 11 fees agreed, agents confirming, presidents denying and it just makes me think one thing.
Thank you for cutting through the nonsense eds!

Firmane

1.) 08 Jun 2018 18:32:53
On medicals ed, this may be a stupid question, but do they normally occur at he club, in a hospital or what?

{Ed001's Note - depends on the club and the circumstances.}


2.) 08 Jun 2018 18:45:30
So you don't want something that would be good for the club to happen, just so in your eyes the ITK will look stupid? Are you even a fan?


3.) 08 Jun 2018 20:09:09
Yeah I changed it to after the World Cup! Course I want him!


 

 

 

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11 Jul 2018 18:15:54
If they go for Neymar surely a striker is thief next choice, with bale and asensio still there for wide positions.

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08 Jul 2018 13:10:59
He's on his way, he's just borrowed ayres Harley and it's broken down!

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20 Jun 2018 22:11:27
Can't tell if this is a wind up or serious 😂.

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19 Jun 2018 08:12:37
Who do Madrid have to negotiate with, us or RBL?

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17 Jun 2018 23:48:51
A kind of hope we trim the squad a little of players who always seem to be there when there are injuries - much rather give solanke, Woodburn, Brewster the minutes. In recent times Flanagan, Gomez and Trent have all been given chances through injury and did well - I know Flanagan hasn't pushed on, but it's always nice seeing a player come through the academy, and I hope we see some more.

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15 Jul 2018 22:08:36
Not many would get many minutes competing with Griezeman and mbappe.

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15 Jul 2018 18:17:49
Saying France are a joke is harsh, they have beaten good teams to get to here and have just won the World Cup. You can say Pogba relies on Kante, but at the end of the day he's scored and they haven't really come close to losing a game. He's playing with two defensive midfielders yes, but if he produces 20/ 30 mins like that, the game has changed.

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15 Jul 2018 18:15:03
Thing for me is that the ruling is there but refs don't see to listen, play they can't work in tandem. Should be used for offsides and clear obvious errors like it says.
But, my main qualm with it is, refs are deliberately not giving fouls in the box as they know they can stop and check VAR - but then you can only change it if it's clear and obvious?! A lot of the time I believe the ref has an inclining it's a pen then check Var and give it, it's not an error. Just doesn't make sense.

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14 Jul 2018 23:11:56
I think we lost goals from the midfield when couts left, I think between hendo Milner gini can and Ox we can't have had more than 15 probably fewer. Obviously the front three were magical but if Keita fekir maybe and shaqiri can supplement what coutinho gave us and whatever Salah and maybe 10 for Salah - then if he gets extra that's a bonus. Personally think mane will get more this season than last.

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13 Jul 2018 22:07:24
At the end of the day if we were in a Cl game and Salah was out, who would you pick for 13 million over shaqiri? Hopefully he likes it here and works hard. Hope Wilson still gets a shot!

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