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17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?


{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}

1.) 18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

2.) 18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.

3.) 19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}

5.) 19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}

6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}

7.) 20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.

8.) 20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!



13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?


1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?

2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.

3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.

4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.



02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!


1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.



24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?


{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}

1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.

2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!

3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.

4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.

5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!

6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.

7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.



31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!





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08 Jul 2019 00:42:49
Ed I know you said players have to take 3 weeks off in the summer. If mane gets to the afcon final on the 19th July, his three weeks will be August 9th. after the first pl game. Is that a possibility or can he come back sooner if thats the case? I know salah took a week before the afcon, is that taken into consideration if it is a set rule?


{Ed002's Note - Why don't you want them to rest?}

1.) 08 Jul 2019 07:31:09
No way! Work them until they collapse! Then work them some more! Mush! Mush!

2.) 08 Jul 2019 08:27:07
Im not sure I said that ed. I said does it have to be three weeks after the the afcon?

3.) 08 Jul 2019 11:15:21
Everyone on this earth needs time every so often to relax and recharge their batterys.

The last thing we want is to burn out our best players in their prime!

4.) 08 Jul 2019 11:57:35
This is why we have massive squads. Let the bloke have rest!

5.) 08 Jul 2019 12:19:35
To answer your question Firmane, yes they will have 3 weeks off from the time their participation ends. Same for all clubs I believe. At least it's better than losing our three to a January AFCON. Although I'm not sure a summer tournament in Egypt is a good idea. The next one's in Cameroon, where it'll be cooler but possibly raining all the time.

6.) 08 Jul 2019 12:57:24
They could have started the tournament a little earlier so it ends beginning of July or something. Anyways much better than a January tournament considering we have a few African first teamers.

{Ed002's Note - Why would they change to fit in with Liverpool and the English league?}

7.) 08 Jul 2019 19:34:30
Beats me, Ed02.



06 Jul 2019 16:20:03
Hi Eds this is more a general questions, regarding contracts. I saw it mentioned earlier about griezemans release clause going down On a certain date. How did Barcelona know? Are contracts available for all clubs to see? Or is it the agents saying about it?


{Ed002's Note - All players in Spain have termination clauses and the amount can vary each July 1 depending on agreements when contracts are signed - in this case a year ago where part of the deal for AG to extend was a reduction in his termination clause when the prior contract expired. The financials are all declared and held by the RFEF and are available for clubs to see.}



16 Jun 2019 20:45:51
If salah wants to leave I’d rather he leaves now. If he’s not happy, then it could affect morale and it starts becoming the salah show, rather than how good mane has been or the likes. Get in Pepe and fekir and move on. I’d rather players who are 100% buying into klopp, Liverpool and the way we are, that constantly having one eye on pastures new.

He has been great, no doubt, unbelievable last season and a nightmare for defenders most weeks this. But we are bigger, and we should be in control of the situation.


1.) 16 Jun 2019 21:25:26
We are in control mate, he isn’t leaving this summer but maybe next summer and we will replace him when he leaves.

2.) 16 Jun 2019 21:51:26
The guys been a phenomenon, and he is willing to give us another season. Who knows what will happen then? He's brilliant but there are other brilliant rfs.

I love him and hope he stays forever, if not, well that's football. Klopp is the key.

3.) 16 Jun 2019 22:26:10
I am sure king Edwards has got his transfers prepped for the 2025/ 26 season.

4.) 16 Jun 2019 22:38:50
There has been a lot said about Salah wanting to leave, the last few days on here. In fairness to him, he has not agitated for a move in the way previous players have, such as Suarez, Coutinho and Mascherano.
I am not aware of Salah having said anything as yet, we know his agent has touted him around, but that probably applies to many agents and players.
Although he was too greedy at times last season, I would definitely prefer him to stay as he is not that easily replacable. Top goalscorer 2 seasons in a row tells its own story.

5.) 17 Jun 2019 00:21:52
Can we stop talking about Salah leaving until something concrete appears please? There are more important things to discuss. Like, will Bobby keep that ridiculous hairdo next season, or, will Virgil be generous and let a player get past him?

6.) 17 Jun 2019 02:55:45
Exactly burkey, spot on mate.

7.) 17 Jun 2019 07:48:20
If salah has decided to leave next summer, then he has to continue performing otherwise the interested team will go for other players.

8.) 17 Jun 2019 11:33:16
What if madrid are having a stinker and decide to buy in January then we need to replace him mid season. don't think salah gives a toss about us imo he is a mercenary.

9.) 17 Jun 2019 16:20:05
RM don't hold any cards in Jan except if Salah forces a move which IMO, he won't. Salah wants to go BUT IMO, he does not seem to want to rock the boat hence, I see him staying this season and giving his all cos well, it's what he does. This will give us ample time to find a suitable replacement for him. To those say he should just leave now should calm down and stop being petulant.

Footie is a business and Salah wanting to move and getting his move, does not come down to him alone. LFC would need to accept a suitable fee for him and RM has to pay it and many other things attached. This is a long process and won't be easy for all parties. I'm good with anything that happens and if Salah can help us win the PL next season then, he should be sent off with all the best wishes we as a club can give him, IMO.



07 Jun 2019 17:56:28
Vorm released by spurs, we could do worse as a number two.


1.) 07 Jun 2019 20:21:13
Decent shout there, Firmane.

2.) 07 Jun 2019 20:56:02
I wonder if we can bring Ward back as number 2. TBH I don't watch enough football to comment on his ability but he seemed to be well regarded when be was playing first team football.

Give him the domestic cups. He will also free up a space on the foreign players quota.

I doubt he'd want to come back after being messed around. But learning from Alisson and knowing he's first in line if Ali gets injured is not a bad opportunity!

3.) 08 Jun 2019 00:47:19
Would Gigi Buffon be considered if migs goes he is free agent and can accomplish his dream of winning Champions league.

4.) 08 Jun 2019 06:42:18
Im so glad none of you are involved in our transfer dealings.

5.) 08 Jun 2019 07:11:55
Me too lfcfan_03beef.

6.) 08 Jun 2019 10:30:13
Vorm wpuld be a decent back up keeper. There was a time he almost became our 1st choice keeper. Was it rodgers or hodgson who liked him. It was the brodge eh. Went for migs instead.

7.) 08 Jun 2019 15:37:24
Hasn't Vorm struggled with injuries in the past while and dropped behind Gazzaniga? Not sure about him myself.

8.) 09 Jun 2019 00:35:42
Might as well just keep Mingolet than go after him. He couldn’t even get a game when Lloris was going through a terrible run of form.



03 Jun 2019 10:58:06
{Ed's Note - Firmane has posted a new article entitled, My Thoughts on Some of The Current Liverpool FC Players


1.) 03 Jun 2019 11:14:19
Nice one firmane. Thanks lad. We definitely do not need a back up striker. We have divok origi.

I agree about trent too, such a good rb, would be difficult to replace. he's just be voted best rb in the league, why change his position?

And bringing on milner, i felt the same "he will see this out"

I love gomez, i really like lovren but i think matip should start next season. Him a vvd are SO tall and strong. Formidable.

2.) 03 Jun 2019 11:50:03
Whilst Matip has upped his game to a new level of consistency I would still pick Gomez and Virg as first choice partnership next season. I do want Lovren to stay but for me, he would be 4th choice.

Also we have to have a back up keeper. What happens if Allison gets injured? If we have to sign someone like Rob Green who is happy to pick up the wages and get changed for the trophy lifting then so be it!

3.) 03 Jun 2019 13:15:20
Just to confirm here, I’m pretty sure I said we need a backup goalkeeper and that my worry is that matip needs a run of games to get going, and that’s worrying for a backup. meaning Gomez is first choice.




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19 Jul 2019 17:36:02
The perfect player for us in my eyes. Young, can play am or wide although not blessed with pace has good ability with both feet! If we were interested and so was he, I’d be very happy.




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15 Jul 2019 13:14:46
Why so desperate Ed’s? I get he hasn’t performed and cost a lot, but seems bad to write him off after 1 year. Is his attitudes wrong?


{Ed001's Note - no, he just isn't good enough and they need money to buy players that are.}



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14 Jul 2019 17:58:04
How can they buy what they have and mane, and Barcelona have got greizmann and still looking at neymar! Madness in Spain.




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12 Jul 2019 18:00:14
Didn’t know Barcelona had a spare billion euros!




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09 Jul 2019 13:43:13
Didnt they value Wilson at over 50 million for chelsea? Seems mad money for his age and quality.





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20 Jul 2019 08:37:19
Watched the second half of the afcon final, gutted for mane. They created little though but what they did never fell to him, their one bit of quality going forward. Niang is like lukaku without a finish and spurned some good opportunities. Algeria created little too but had the goal to work from.




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19 Jul 2019 21:21:34

Top two based on the fact firstly they are quality, but also the option if they are not playing.




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18 Jul 2019 12:52:18
Seems a good move for West Ham in haller- him Anderson and yarlomenko will cause issues. If they keep rice they’ll do alright this year, just feel they need another cm with him.




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17 Jul 2019 13:02:06
Asked by a player or reporter?




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16 Jul 2019 12:38:39
Can’t tackle though.