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21 May 2018 22:58:20
Just read a brilliant interview that Hendo gave to Oliver Holt of the Daily Mail. I propose that everyone check it out. It will blow your mind.

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1.) 21 May 2018 23:19:12
Incredible rover! Cheers for the heads up! I’ve always believed, the more people you have that are committed to the cause and are less obsessed with personal triumphs leads to the enviable of team glory. At then end of that this is a team sport and I think hendo really does reflect what is going on within that camp. Let’s all appreciate what is going within Liverpool football club because I truly feel blessed.

Enjoy people.


2.) 21 May 2018 23:21:00
* inevitable.


3.) 21 May 2018 23:39:15
Football players are not emotionless robots with nothing going on off the pitch? That is mind blowing.

If my dad was going through cancer treatment, I probably couldn't get out of bed.


4.) 22 May 2018 03:17:24
What a superb attitude to life and football. Utterly deserves the captaincy and any successes that come his way. Love to see him and the team immortalised this Saturday.


5.) 22 May 2018 07:19:02
We are so lucky to have Jordan Henderson as our Captain.
What a true professional and inspirational young man he is.
He’s a perfect role model for youngsters,
I hope his father continues to recover from his illness and that he sees his son lift the Champions League Trophy on Saturday.
To lift the trophy and then captain England at the World Cup would be a fantastic honour for Jordan and thoroughly deserved.

YNWA.


6.) 22 May 2018 07:24:04
Aren’t Daily Fail articles behind a paywall?


 

 

14 May 2018 20:00:17
Hi guys,

Great result last night and happy we have no injuries and will be ready for the all out assault on the CL trophy in two weeks. I was at the pub watching the game (Rooster's Pub in Brussels. Come on down when in Brussels) with other LFC fans and low and behold, I met a Norwegian named Ole Hermann Borgan. Don't know who he is? He is a retired FIFA ref/ lino who retired in 2006 and is a MAD Liverpool fan. I could not believe my luck. We had a hoot of a time. We spoke about all things football.

I asked him if he had reffed any LFC games in Europe and he said he had reffed 5 of them. He said he was the ref during the LFC v Roma game in the 01/ 02 season at Anfield. I asked him how it is to ref a game where one of the teams is the one you are mad for. He said it was quite easy cos as a ref, you shut it out and do your job. I then asked him who was the best player he had ever seen. He said he had watched a tonne of them (BUT to him, Zidane was petry in motion.

Now while all this is happening, our friend Kevin Friend is having a true stinker at Anfield and when he did not award LFC a pen in both situations, HE WAS LOSING IT. I then asked him about refs in England and if he rates them. Borgan said that he thinks English refs are arrogant and are not focused on actually doing the job. They are focused on being seen as tough or trying to prove a point that they are in charge instead of just being a co-stakeholder in the game and trying to do the best job possible.

I then asked him about the Roma pen with TAA and he said that had that been him, he would have awarded a pen, end of. HOWEVER, he said since the ref had a clear view of it, he thinks the ref interpreted that TAA did not deliberately raise his hand up and had no chance of bringing his arms down cos he was doing his best to try and get in front of the shot (part of the hand ball rule, btw) hence, did not give it. I agree cos I thought the same thing when it happened BUT Go figure

Sorry for the long post BUT just wanted to share that with you guys. On to Kiev where we #TakeThe6th!

BRover

1.) 14 May 2018 20:29:58
Great post and different from the usual stuff, thanks for sharing. And hard to argue with him regards English refs I've been astonished with some of the displays this season and absolutely no explanation for it! (untouchable) attitude by the majority.


2.) 14 May 2018 20:31:07
Thanks for sharing mate.


3.) 14 May 2018 20:45:26
I am fed up with the different interpretations used in the media with regard to handball.
Handball has to be deliberate. If it's accidental it's not handball.
Pundits saying that the ball traveled a long way or his hand was raised just cloud the issue.

Against Roma Trent was lifting his foot to block the ball so his arm came up as well. In my opinion it wasn't deliberate and therefore not a pen.
Having said that the alleged handball by Duffy? (not sure it was him) yesterday was a misjudgement by the defender. Even though the ball had traveled a fair distance, I still don't think it was deliberate and wouldn't have given the penalty.

Problem is its open to interpretation and most people would give both penalties. Don't think VAR will help either because again it's all down to intent and how the referee interprets the situation.


4.) 14 May 2018 21:02:32
Am just fed up with how a ref stands 10 feet away am seams to go blind to a handball. Just waves it away like it never happened and am not just talking about Liverpool the refs are so poor now it’s embracing.


5.) 14 May 2018 21:04:56
Thanks for the responses, lads and MAD props to the Ed's for posting it cos this moment was one of the best football moments in my life.

Never Forget, I am near certain that the refs and pundits in England, have next to no clue about the footie rules so just make them up to fit the narrative they wanna propagate, IMO. Also the reason I asked him that was to get not just the perspective of a FIFA ref BUT also one from a non English person or pundit and he gave his honest opinion on the TAA issue.

Also since I speak French, I watched a lot of French punditry on youtube about the Roma game and a couple of them were the only ones who offered the scenario you, myself and Borgan did on TAA about him not deliberately raising his hands up while lifting his foot to block the shot. That is as UNDELIBERATE a handball as you will find and tho some of them wanted a pen, a couple others said it was not cos that was the only reason the ref did not give it cos he was right on top of the play.

Also, I agree that VAR would not have helped in the Brighton incidents as well cos I thought the tackle on Salah was not a pen cos Duffy got a decent touch on the ball. Had that been given as a pen against us, I would have been losing it. True LFC fan tho, Borgan disagreed and wanted both his pens. and wanted them NOW, lol. YNNWA!


6.) 14 May 2018 21:18:23
Longthing, it was what Borgan was referring to as in, English refs are too full of themselves, too arrogant and always wanna prove a point that they are in charge, all things that have NOTHING to do with the game they are officiating. They should be focusing on reffing the game and being dedicated to do the best job they can instead of worrying about all this other nonsense. Their priorities are outside of the game itself, I think.


7.) 14 May 2018 21:40:04
Totally agree. I think the worst culprits are the ex referees they get on to analyse the refs performance. They justify bad decisions like the Kane offside/ penalty or the Solanke handball/ goal v West Brom. It then becomes widely reported as a correct decision which just confuses matters.

I didn't think it was a foul on Salah either, but it was very similar to a penalty Migs gave away where he miskicked a clearance and took Vardy out. He got the ball but apparently "not enough of the ball"🙄.


8.) 14 May 2018 23:06:18
For a handball to be considered deliberate, the ref will take into account whether the hand was moved towards the ball and also whether the arm was placed in a an unnatural position. For example, Harry Kewell handball in the world cup vs Ghana. He had his arm out from his body - I agreed with the decision.


9.) 14 May 2018 23:15:15
Hi Longthing 76 - embracing is what Jurgen Klopp does - EMBARRASING is what referees do.


10.) 15 May 2018 11:13:50
Thanks for the great post BRover, lovely story.

What surprises me most is that I don't see many people talking about the "handball" by Klavan for Roma's last second penalty. I thought that was an absolutely atrocious decision as his hand was by his side, not raised, not in an unnatural position, and he certainly was not deliberately blocking the ball with his hand.
All this subjectivity about what constitutes handball is why we sometimes see defenders trying to block crosses with their hands behind their backs (which is clearly unnatural and I hope they are wearing groin guards when they do so) .

The handball rule clearly needs to be clarified.

{Ed001's Note - in Spain if it hits the hand it is adjudged to be handball, hence why players who played in Spain put their hands behind their back. Perhaps that is the only way to clear up the matter?}


11.) 16 May 2018 07:54:02
Thanks Ed001, I was unaware of that rule in Spain. I guess such a rule would help put all subjectivity out of the window, even if it does seem rather silly. I'm almost surprised we don't see more players in Spain trying to kick the ball against defenders' hands when they're in the penalty box - it might just be easier than aiming for the top corner! :P.

{Ed001's Note - they did do that for a while, hence why they all put their hands behind their backs.}


 

 

10 May 2018 10:40:27
Just read that the Real honorary president Gento (great player), said that the CL Final "would be a piece of cake". In American sports, we call that "Bulletin board material" meaning, that quote is posted on the bulletin board at the entrance of the team's dressing room. This way, EVERY player and coach sees that disrespectful quote and uses it as fuel for their fire in the coming game. Good job, Sparky a. k. a Gento! Keep talking that trash. YNWA.

BRover

1.) 10 May 2018 11:02:53
That quote has triggered me.


2.) 10 May 2018 11:03:30
Remember my dad telling me that Malcolm McDonald from Newcastle did something similar in the 1974 fa cup final. Was saying he was going to destroy Hughes and Thompson that they wouldn't be able to handle him. Won that final 3-0 if I'm not mistaken let's hope history repeats itself lads.


3.) 10 May 2018 11:19:16
I remember before an NFL game btw the New England Patriots and the Pittsburg Steelers where before the game, a Steelers defensive player (Anthony Taylor) said that the Pats were overrated and could be gotten at. Remember, the Pats were undefeated and the game would be in NE where they NEVER lose. Tom Brady thanked the player for offering you guessed it, Bulletin Board Material.

What happened in the game? Pittsburg was blown out of the water and the Pitt defensive player was ridiculed as he was beaten for a touchdown pass amongst many other things they did to him. The Pats later said they decided to not just beat Pitt, but to humiliate both them and that player for running his mouth. Gento is now Anthony Taylor and Klopp MUST do all they can to make him eat his words w/ o any chasers or bbq sauce.


4.) 10 May 2018 11:32:03
The last time a Madrid president opened his mouth about the pending outcome of a Liverpool-Real Madrid face-off and wrote us off before a ball was kicked we humbled them 1-0 on their turf and battered them 4-0 at Anfield. That President didn't keep much job too much longer.

May history repeat itself and fate judge him just as harshly as his predecessor. No tact whatsoever.


5.) 10 May 2018 14:08:29
That quote reminds me of the time you thought you were going to trample over us at OT in March🤦‍♂️😂. But seriously, you do have a very good chance against Referee XI (Madrid), just need to exploit their overrated defence.


6.) 10 May 2018 16:28:41
Scholes, I do not recall John W Henry, Tom Warner, Mike Gordon or whoever saying playing you guys at OT would be a piece of cake. Fans? maybe but that is just banter. I get your point tho.


7.) 10 May 2018 16:52:44
He got his baking wrong.

He said “piece of cake” but he meant a piece of pie - humble pie.


8.) 10 May 2018 18:33:23
Serious banter*.


9.) 11 May 2018 17:21:35
Still banter scholes serious or not, that’s called rivalry ;)
the clubs staff/ board should be respectful of each other and leave the rivalry to the fans!


 

 

09 May 2018 21:40:55
David Wagner, I LOVE YOU!

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13 Apr 2018 22:56:21
Harry Kane's take on the goal (as well as other things) he claimed in the Stoke game:

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18 May 2018 20:47:32
Son is the ONLY player I would take from Spurs. He is just brilliant.

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08 May 2018 18:02:26
Redmond? Yikes!

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07 May 2018 19:41:17
Shaquiri? Anautovic? Zaha? Good grief, what is going on here? As Ed said, these guys are not good enough to even be the backup to our backups. Instead of these guys, I would just stick with Harry Wilson and the other kids. Like Epic, I do like Knockaerts and to some extent Izquierdo even tho, they may still be raw.

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07 May 2018 19:36:02
Klopp has been looking for an RB since the summer of 2016 and that clearly, has not changed. The hope is we can move Clyne on and bring in a natural RB who can play the way Klopp wants so Gomez can shift to CB and TAA can either continue his apprenticeship at RB or move into midfield. I know he did not have his best game (neither did anyone bar Mane) v Chelsea BUT I thought TAA did not do too badly cos he played some nice, incisive passes esp. in the first half.

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07 May 2018 19:37:01
Fekir is one of the AM's we are looking at as Ed02 has said. Will he come/ I hope so cos he is pure class.

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22 May 2018 20:15:02
Nice one, Ed25.

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22 May 2018 19:48:09
I bet you he'll be back on corner-kick duty at the WC again like he did at the Euros. Now that was laughable.

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22 May 2018 19:46:29
Alderweireld is off to Utd, if the reports are to be believed.

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22 May 2018 19:44:58
They prolly gave him the capt's band to appease him for not winning the golden boot this season. Well, all we can hope for now, is for him not to take corner kicks in Russia.

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22 May 2018 19:43:34
PH, I doubt we will be getting both Dembele and Fekir so I would pump the breaks on that if I were you cos like it or not, attack is not our issue and all we need is depth in wide areas and pauing 90m for depth, makes NO business nor football sense.

MK, Fekir has said that he is happy at Lyon BUT "No one signs a life contract at any club so we shall see". This means that he is interested in a move and we are the only ones interested for now and he seems keen to make the jump. I agree that Aulas is a true piece of work to do business with as he has fleeced quite a lot of English clubs in the past (Malouda, for example when he sold him to Chelsea) BUT if Fekir wants to leave, there is nothing Aulas can do about it. IMO, I think the deal will happen.

As for Dembele, Ed02 has said that they want all their money back for what they got him for cos not only is he injury prone, he is a complete piece of work on and off the pitch. For 90m? No way and I will believe it when I see it.

BRover