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18 Apr 2018 11:17:28
I've seen a lot of clamouring for Mathis de Ligt recently.

A huge talent by the looks of it but why are people so keen to sign him when it would / could be a blocker to Gomez? You know, the 20 year old talent defender we already have in our team?

Seriously, if we were to sign a CB, it needs to be someone on par with VVD in both experience and current ability.

I don’t see the point in buying an 18 year old when Joe Gomez is clearly a big talent himself.


1.) 18 Apr 2018 11:55:33
If someone of that talent and potential is available you sign him. Massive if but if he came klopp would likely make say matip and klavan available and we'd then have 4 1st team cbs. 2 more experienced 2 young looking to get in the team.

But also do remember lovren has had shockers and it wouldn't be a surprise if neither Matip or Lovren were in klopps plans.

2.) 18 Apr 2018 13:20:35
Lovren next to VVD looks far better though. Lovren has cut out a lot of the errors but tend to struggle against certain opposition. He’s had a tough time from us as a fan base at times but he’s got his head down and always give 100% which I think should be appreciated.

3.) 18 Apr 2018 13:20:40
I'd have to disagree. you only sign someone of huge talent if you need them and it would be of benefit to both parties.

it wouldn't be of benefit to de ligt or gomez to warming the bench and our money could be better invested elsewhere.

you don't really rotate CB's like you do other positions and in the main need a settled back 4.

4.) 18 Apr 2018 13:23:11
Matthijs de Ligt will be a top top player.

5.) 18 Apr 2018 14:01:40
De Ligt is a couple of years away at least and could be cover for Klavan but I get your point OP.

6.) 18 Apr 2018 14:02:24
Agreed Cesar. It seems like the overt show of support from fans after the Spurs away game (voting player of the month and all) has helped Lovren turn a corner. And recently he's been very good bar the ManU game.

7.) 18 Apr 2018 16:43:57
Completely agree with 87 here, we have Gomez and that's that, if we was to sign such a player we'd be practically forcing Gomez out, something none of us want to see.

It's getting to that time of the year again though, we're 'linked' with literally everybody and his mother.

8.) 18 Apr 2018 22:17:44
To be fair Salah, I hear his mother is a decent footballer with potential to replace Can.

9.) 19 Apr 2018 15:13:22
Klavan and Matip will probably be gone in the summer which leaves us with VVD, Lovren, Gomez (and De ligt if he comes)
So even playing a normal back 4 means we have 2 experienced players and 2 young players for cover.

during early cup games it would be great to have Gomez and De ligt starting with vvd and Lovren rested.

Who knows the 2 youngsters could be a long term partnership when VVD and Lovren start to lose their legs.
Lovren is 28 in a couple of months. When he hits 30, Gomez will be 23, perfect age to begin his push into a permanent starting 11 spot at CB.

VVD is nearly 26 so by the time he is 30 De Ligt will be close to 22, again a good age to start pressuring VVD for the starting 11 spot. And after 4 years he should be well and truly intergrated into the squad and comfortable playing alongside Gomez.

My thoughts anyway xD

Although as someone else said, i’d rather we got another experienced CB and use Lovren as the experienced cover. He has excelled next to VVD but we never know if it'll last as he has been shocking for so long.

10.) 20 Apr 2018 07:39:00
If we buy him as cover he won't be getting much game time wich will hinder his developmwnt.



07 Aug 2017 13:06:31
Hi eds

I seem to remember a few months back a couple of other CBS were mentioned as us keeping a watching brief (I think it was Ed1 so apologies if I'm mistaken)

They were nastasic and dragovic - do you have any info why decided against pursuing?


{Ed001's Note - no sorry.}



05 Jun 2017 18:17:46
Anyone claiming they don't want Salah because of Afcon are using that as an excuse because they're not really excited about him signing.

I guarantee you nobody would be putting this argument forward if we signed aubameyang.


1.) 05 Jun 2017 18:37:02
The AFCON is years away and we have time to work on that eventuality. Fact is we will have two VERY rapid skilful goal scoring wingers!

2.) 05 Jun 2017 18:44:21
Nah, the same boo boys would use that argument against any African player. Most of us know it's a weak argument though.

3.) 05 Jun 2017 18:34:24
Or reuse who spends around same time on pitch as Sturbridge. though I Linda like him too.

4.) 05 Jun 2017 19:07:22
Going into january with potential semi finals (carling cup), fa cup and premierleague. Without argubably two of your better players is a worry.

But its a ling way off.

5.) 05 Jun 2017 19:41:56
Plenty more of time to prepare for it.

6.) 05 Jun 2017 19:44:44
Afcon won't be for another year and a half a lot of the youngsters (Ojo, Wilson, woodburn, ) will be hopefully first team ready by then, plus another two transfer windows on top of that. No need to panic just yet.



26 Nov 2014 18:34:48

I know you say you doubt klopp would take on the job but do you know if is at least a consideration or if we looked at him the last time round



{Ed001's Note - he will always be under consideration mate, it comes down to if he has any interest in the role, which seems unlikely considering how beloved he is in Dortmund.}




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18 May 2018 12:29:17
honestly, Macca gives us amazing insight and what do we do?

a fat list of people complaining about said targets, writing them off, worrying that means Salah is off.

despite robertson, Ox, Salah (to some people), even Mane were met with sceptiscism - even outrage in some cases.

can we not just drop our armchair manager egos and trust the recruitment team for a change?

"oooh but this is a site about opinions and banter". yes it is but don't bite the hands that feeds you.


1.) 18 May 2018 12:45:33
Well said 87, thank god I'm not alone in thinking this way.

2.) 18 May 2018 12:50:52
Nothing wrong with criticising the targets, but it has to be constructive or at least followed up with a bit of balance ie. "Maybe Klopp will make it work by-"

At the end of the day, these players are professionals for a reason. Is Butland weak on crosses? Yes. But he is great with his distribution and shot stopping.

Is Tarkowski slow and clumsy on the ball? Yes, but he is also a passionate defender who put a his body on the line.

Is Ceballos young and a little inconsistent? Yes but he has superb potential.

As you say, these guys signing these players are paid millions to be where they are. Sometimes, you just have to trust them. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to project your feelings or concerns. But their is a fine line between healthy debate and spitting venom. If you point out flaws, you should also point out strengths for the sake of balance and fairness.

3.) 18 May 2018 14:10:00
In Football manager 2018 Tarkowski Best role is Ball playing defender, Butland has better potencial and current ability than Karius, Fekir is class, Dembele has better potencial than Salah and Ceballos has better potencial than Emre.
I suppose to some extent their ability’s are correct. ( FM has their own scouting network ) just saying 😬.

4.) 18 May 2018 14:41:03
Well said 87red i posted something similar last week. Like deja vu. Am afraid if you're expecting us to go sign world class players you clearly don't grasp what klopp and fsg are about. We can't just go and throw £200m on defence in one window etc. And tbh id rather klopps way anyway love watching players grow and improve like ox mane salah id have that any day over pogba sanchez etc.

5.) 18 May 2018 14:48:28
Have to agree with MK here, no one is biting the hand that feeds them. Most if not all the users of this site appreciate maccas insight and he more often than not produces the goods along with the Ed’s. No ones complaining about the information and where it’s coming from. If people are criticising it’s towards some of the targets and like MK has said it’s usually constructive criticism, people have grown to trust the recruitment but how many times in the past have we been burnt by bad expensive purchases. Can you really blame people for having doubts? If we just sat there on this site and just said ‘well I trust the recruitment so I have no opinion on said player till they play for us’ then this would be one boring site with no debating going on what so ever. Player bashing is different from constructive criticism, no one has said any of these players are absolute rubbish but some people are doubiting whether some of them would really push us to that next level, what wrong with that?

6.) 18 May 2018 14:53:54
On one hand people say stop worrying about money and the other hand they are skeptical we don’t have £200 mill to spend. Coco, how do you know how much money have we got to spend this summer? Where did you get these numbers from! Including Kieta I am sure Klopp will spend £200 mill this summer.

Regarding players and opinions. there's is absolutely no problem in having an opinion on players. That is why you watch a match and not listen to radio! You could see what the player is all about. Having an opinion means you have seen the player play!

7.) 18 May 2018 16:13:36
I genuinely can’t see any positives go Tarkowski, he’s a dyed in the wool Man United supporter and I’d rather not have one of those in the ranks, he’s slow, clumsy, doesn’t read the game very well and is poor on the ball. Ok I get that he throws his body around to block etc, but really? Is that the best we can do?

Dembélé, his move to Barcelona hasn’t gone as well as he’d hoped, the injury he suffered was a really severe one and I’d worry that he’d lost a yard or two of pace and also there’s question marks if he’d be able to deliver after such a bad injury, not even thinking about the possibility of reoccurrence.

Ceballos, good player, but not absolutely top class by a long way, I’m reluctant for us to have any transfer dealings with Real Madrid while they hold any interest in Salah as they’re likely to want to make us a lowball offer and chuck him in as part of the deal. Ruben Neves would be a far better option for a deeper playing midfielder because he can hack it in a more physical league and has settled well in England.

Butland, has had a nightmare of a time with injury, before that was probably the best English keeper around. He has the presence in the box but his decision making is questionable, however a far better option than Navas. For the right price would be an upgrade on Mignolet.

Fekir, actually really like this player, has the ability to be top class. Can play multiple positions in attacking midfield and even as a false nine.

8.) 18 May 2018 16:22:08

I don't understand your post. Whether people have opinions or not on the players that macca posted has no relevance to whether or not they were grateful for the post itself.

Im pretty sure macca doesn't take offence to the fact that someone doesn't rate the players he has stated we are interested in. He is only merely stating that's who he thinks we are interested in and shouldn't take any offence at all if someone personally thinks they aren't good enough.

If people didn't have opinions on players pretty much 90 per cent of all the posts on here would be gone.

Ofcourse every player the club sign should have full support and a chance to prove themselves but at the same time if someone feels that they don't think they are good enough from the off set what harm are they doing by stating their opinion on it.

9.) 18 May 2018 17:57:28

People clamour for insight on a daily basis and the second me get one people do nothing but whinge about who we’re after.

Again, fans have been proven wrong on numerous occasions but still think they know more than the people in charge.

10.) 18 May 2018 18:06:37
I have no name. I was clearly meaning spending £200m after sales etc. Like the two Manchester teams can do, with there resources. Let's trust our transfer team and klopp, they have done brilliantly in the market up to now.

11.) 18 May 2018 19:48:50

Your getting too worked up about what other people are saying. Let them have their say be it right or wrong. If you feel what they say is wrong drop them a post and state your view as to why you think their wrong. Even world class managers have different opinions on players.

I do kinda get what your saying now though mate. I probaby should have read over your post again. I just thought that you were saying people wernt allowed to have an opinion. Which is a very unrealistic thing to ask.

It takes all types mate. Some people are naturally negative and gloomy about the future. Some are blindly ultra positive.

Im an optimist about all things liverpool and will give any new signing a chance but i can totally understand why some people would be really upset if for example you sold torres and bought andy carrol for 35 million.

I think its going to be a good summer. Klopp seems to be after who he needs for his system or who he needs for any tweaks to the system.

It looks like its all on the up.



10 Mar 2018 06:32:33
Can we all have a right good laugh at what a tit Tim Sherwood is. I cannot stand the man.

He’s just done a piece on sky saying that Karius could emulate David de Gea and that he could be the answer.

Literally a week ago he wrote a piece saying this “"The key for Liverpool's current goalkeepers in the mistakes they have made. Liverpool cannot gamble, they need a sure thing. It's a key position and you're not going to win anything without a top goalkeeper. "

Changed his mind in a week has he? So embarrassing. He’s a shocking pundit and it’s a crime he makes a living of any sort in the sport.

I’d also like to say that I have faith Karius can be the answer between the sticks for us. People got on his back way too quickly. He has to keep up recent performances for the rest of this season and immediately into next to nail down his place though. Fingers crossed he could save us 60-70mil.


1.) 10 Mar 2018 08:56:25
Can we not praise somebody for not being too stubborn to change his mind?

3 weeks ago, everyone on here said we NEEEDED Alisson and that Karius was not good enough.

Ask people on here today and those same people who said Karius wasn't good enough (myself included, amongst others including Ed001) will probably say they're prepared to give him a chance and/ or that maybe he is good enough after all.

I think it makes somebody a good pundit to be flexible in there opinion. Making your mind up and then being completely un-open to anything changing your mind is stubborn and poor analysing.

2.) 10 Mar 2018 09:16:29
The whole thing reminds me of when Lucas first signed, poor bloke got a right bashing, he worked hard and for me at one point was the first name on the team sheet . I’m not one for slagging players off straight away, I think it’s later in their careers with LFC that if they still haven’t improved then that’s the time to question wether there good enough for Liverpool .
Really hope we start off the blocks today.

3.) 10 Mar 2018 09:44:33
Credit to him for being big enough to change his mind. Karius has won me over too, it’s ok to have an opinion, but it’s not ok to be so stubborn as not to change your mind if the facts change. The facts are that Karius has stepped up in recent weeks and is looking like the keeper we hoped he would be. Remember the words of greatest economic mind of the modern age, John Maynard Keynes.

4.) 10 Mar 2018 10:17:02
Yes credit for changing your opinion but not in the space of 5 days when you’re paid write stuff. What exactly happened in 5 days for such a drastic turnaround.

If he’d written that first article 6 months ago or at the start of the season. A 5 day Gap is embarrassing.

5.) 10 Mar 2018 10:29:22
Sherwood was extremely successful in his managerial career so am happy to be guided by his opinion and undoubted expertise.

6.) 10 Mar 2018 10:46:36
According to your quote 87red he never specifically said Karius wasn't good enough. He just said that Liverpool have a problem with goal keeping mistakes and need a sure thing. It is very reasonable to think that, and also think that Karius has potential to improve and do just that.

You are acting as though he has said "Karius is a terrible keeper" and then 5 days later said "Karius is world class.

In actual fact, all he's said is Liverpool need a goalkeeper who can be consistent and cut out the errors, and then 5 days later said that answer could be Karius. I'm sorry, but I don't see the issue.

I agree with you that Tim Sherwood isn't the best pundit, but this is a stick invented via paraphrasing and exagerration, to unfairly beat him with. Only my opinion of course mate.

7.) 10 Mar 2018 12:28:21
Where have I exaggerated anything he’s said? It’s a direct quote.

Whether he’s said terrible to potential De Gea or he’s said we need a world class keeper to we now have the answer is still a flip flap in the space of 5 days.

8.) 10 Mar 2018 12:54:44
Jamesy I appreciate the sentiment but Lucas is a bad example. Yes he improved but at his best for me was nowhere near good enough. Top bloke and I still love him today but very limited footballer.
Let’s hope Karius can get to a much higher level than Lucas ever did.

9.) 10 Mar 2018 16:39:22
Bobby builders? So at the time who would you have played?

10.) 10 Mar 2018 19:23:53
Again I don't really rate Sherwood as a pundit, but how long does it take to change your mind? A change of mind takes but a second. I'm all for having a go at Sherwood but not because he changes his mind whether that be in 6 months 5 days or a second. I'm more angry at people/ pundits who refuse to change their mind. Like if someone still maintained salah was a pointless awful signing, that person would be an idiot.



09 Mar 2018 12:14:15
If Emre Can wishes to see if he can get a contract at real madrid then honestly good luck to him.

I've seen further down the pitch that people are ridiculing him or derriding him for this and mocking his ability to play at that level.

let Can worry about that and try to show a bit more class and respect towards a current player who is leaving a very respectful and legit way.

it comes across as bitter and childish.


1.) 09 Mar 2018 12:50:57
Who are you his Dad? I am sure the multi millionaire will not end up on the streets. People are giving an opinion on his football abilities. I personally (like some others) don't think he is quite good enough for the top level. I don't think he is getting any better.

2.) 09 Mar 2018 13:00:33
proved my point with a rather chlidish response Mark.

I'm not his Dad and you're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't have to be delivered in such a disrespectful way.

3.) 09 Mar 2018 13:05:59
What do you class as top level mark? are we not top level? in the quarter finals of the CL, 3rd in the top league in the world, the most competitive league. He's part of our squad mate, plus we do actually want to keep him. I think he'd be fine at clubs like RM and would probably improve to be a top top player wherever he may end up.

I agree with you 87, it does come across as bitter.

4.) 09 Mar 2018 13:14:46
nothing on the previous thread was bitter or childish. You brought that up for no reason. As you say he is a big boy he will be ok whatever level he ends up playing in.

People saying they don't think he is good enough doesn't need you acting like his dad.

5.) 09 Mar 2018 13:30:17
Salah this is nothing to do with Liverpool. This is a debate about whether Can is good enough long term to win titles etc. I don't think he has improved in the last 2 years at all. Hence why Klopp wants Keita.


off the top of my head.

6.) 09 Mar 2018 14:43:03
Wow that's impressive Markp08, must be exhausting walking around with all those guys on top off your head.

7.) 09 Mar 2018 14:43:57
It is to do with Liverpool mark when you say he's not good enough for top level, when Liverpool ARE top level and it's pretty evident we want to keep him. Can is good enough to go ahead and win titles after all he is only 24, you underestimate him massively. I personally think he has improved, not by a great deal granted but there's certainly something in him and to say he isn't good enough at top level is just daft in my opinion.

I have no doubt there's plenty of teams interested in his signature and I have no doubt he'll end up at another top team and will get game quite easily.

Suddenly it's looking like he's leaving and suddenly he's not good enough and will vanish when he leaves us, no chance.

How about just wishing him the best instead of giving him hassle for leaving n doubting his ability? that is what I call been bitter.

8.) 09 Mar 2018 16:28:56
We are no where near winning the premier league and he is one of the players that we need to upgrade. As I keep saying Keita is coming as an improvement on Can.

Do you not think Keita is a significant upgrade? Do you think our midfield is good enough to win the premier league? So we need to improve not think every player we have is great.

Just as VVD was a significant upgrade and hopefully our other signings will be as well. That is what we are doing slowing bringing in better players. It is just common sense.

9.) 09 Mar 2018 16:44:04
Liverpool are not top level. Won nothing for years. On the right path but top level no way.

10.) 09 Mar 2018 17:16:02
To me, Can is replaceable, he would be a good squad option but he wants to be a starter, I don’t think he’s effective consistently enough for us for that unfortunately especially with Keita coming in.
I see a lot of people saying if he’s not good enough for us then he will never be for madrid and that’s nonsense, just because he doesn’t quite fit for us doesn’t mean he won’t be perfect for Madrid and go on to be a starter there, it’s a different team and a different set up and he might flourish there, players perform better or worse depending on what team they play for, an amazing attacking full back might completely struggle if bought by an overly defensive side for example.
Let’s thank the lad for the work and professionalism he’s showed whilst here, he’s honoured his contract so what more can you ask? Good luck to him wherever he goes.

11.) 09 Mar 2018 17:34:16
IM with Ron’s earlier comment on this. Emre has been a good servant to the club and if he wishes to go somewhere else then I wish him the best. I have NO PROBLEM with a player running down their contract. He’s held up his end of the deal, and That’s what contracts are supposed To be for. If he signs for us again, great. If not, YNWA.

12.) 09 Mar 2018 19:20:12
Again, he already plays at the top level. Liverpool have won more games than real Madrid on the champions league this year. We both sit near the top of our leagues, we probably play the better teams in our league from 1 to 20 than real Madrid do on their league.

13.) 09 Mar 2018 22:56:16

Why is he playing at Liverpool, If he is crap? Why did we allow to run down his contracf when he was ready to quit last summer? Techincally He is first class. He doesn't fitninit klopp’s system! That’s all!
Poor are Lallana and Wijnaldum, neither getting games nor getting any suitors outside!

14.) 09 Mar 2018 23:40:16
If lallana becomes available then I guarantee you he will be bought. There would be major interest in him. I hope that doesn't happen, I really like him and think he has another 2/ 3 good seasons in him. He still isn't 100% fit and match sharp. I hate seeing people calling him rubbish or poor just coz he's been struggling for fitness and has been injured. The last time he was 100% match sharp he was one of our best players, probably top 3 and definitely top 5. Last season I'd say mane, coutinio and then lallana also Bobby and Hendo in that top 5 last season.



19 Feb 2018 07:28:30
A question for ed01 if I may.

I feel as if we’re about to enter a new phase of our progression under klopp this summer and that is the one of building a squad that has equal (if not almost) quality on the bench as it does on the pitch. What I mean by that is if you look at the top clubs they’ve have 2 excellent players competing for the same position such as Aguero and Jesus or sane/ sterling etc. Whilst at the moment we have unequivocal first choices in our front 3 in particular. We likely need to look to an additional winger or possibly striker depending on what happens to Ings/ Sturridge/ origi.

I guess what I’m asking is do you see that transition as tricky? Will top prospects such as a Brandt, Bailey or Pulisic etc be keen to join knowing how hard it will be to displace our front 3 and if we do sign such players, how our front 3 will feel about not playing pretty much every game they’re fit for?

Hope that makes sense?!


{Ed001's Note - I do not see us as anywhere near that point yet, we have no midfield to speak of yet, we have two right backs who both are intended to have a long term future in different positions. Those positions need attending to before we should even be thinking about squad depth.}

1.) 19 Feb 2018 10:48:23
Here here! We need full backs! The system demands two excellent full backs. I don’t care if we don’t buy another CB in the summer. It’s our full back that’s worse than anything. However I do expect 2 midfielders to arrive in the summer and the total tally will rise up to 6-7 players.
Except the front 3 anyone could move in the summer.

2.) 19 Feb 2018 12:37:31
Spot on Ed001. I know you're a fan of Ndidi and Mendy at Leicester but are there any others you think are viable and a good fit. I like the look of Jorginho, Torreira and Dendoncker but I don't think we've shown any interest in them either. And at right bac apart from Pereira, are there any others we're looking at?

{Ed001's Note - Jorginho is one I particularly like but I think we would be better with the more combative type, such as Doucoure. There have been a few right backs looked at, though most are unlikely to be options this summer, Fredericks of Fulham could well be possible, he is of interest.}

3.) 19 Feb 2018 13:37:07
If I may ask Ed001, why are the right backs unlikely to be options this summer? Is it due to them not being available or because many top clubs are also looking at them?

{Ed001's Note - both.}

4.) 19 Feb 2018 13:41:13
Thanks Ed. Doucoure has really hit the ground running in the PL. I don't know much about his mentality or game intelligence but his ability is there for all to see. Must admit I don't know much about Fredericks apart from he's a former Spurs academy player so will keep an eye out. Thanks again!

{Ed001's Note - Fredericks is very attacking.}

5.) 19 Feb 2018 13:47:30
would like any of those mentioned tbh. not seen much of Jorginho so can't comment but i agree with ed that i would like a real enforcer. Doucoure is a really good player from what i have seen. really hope we target a midfielder of that nature. with Kieta coming in i only expect 1 more midfielder after that a right back and an attacker/ winger then replacements for outgoings.

6.) 19 Feb 2018 14:03:55
Whilst Torreira doesn’t match Doucoure or Dendoncker in height he’s a snarly and tough little chap who loves a tackle and pretty useful passer. Has a bit of Mascherano Medel Veratti about him.

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen him play.}

7.) 19 Feb 2018 14:35:36
The player I would've loved in there was Obiang of West with every game before his horrible injury problems.

What's happened to him do you think Ed? He looks half the player he was before his injuries. Do you think they've just taken too much out of him he'll never get back or do you think it'll just be a matter of time before he's back to his best?

Also, I'm very surprised to see a question about midfielders and you not say you hope we sign Gary Medel!

All the best.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? Obiang was playing well this season until he picked up another injury.}

8.) 19 Feb 2018 14:49:43
Personally I think he looked a off the pace. But granted that may well have been because he was playing in a poor West Ham team.

Do you know if he is seen as being particularly susceptible to injuries, or if its just seen as bad luck on his part? West Ham have plenty of experience of dealing with the perpetually injured Andy Carroll.

Are Liverpool interested in any of this sort of combative midfielder that you know of? We have Keita coming in who people seem to think is like that but I think he's a lot more creative and dynamic than people believe. I've seen him described as a more attacking Kante, which is completely wrong in my view.

{Ed001's Note - no point asking West Ham about this, they do not do enough work on this area. The fact he has suffered a number of injuries means that he will be more susceptible, it is just the way it is. The body will slightly alter its running style to protect damaged joints creating wear and tear where it shouldn't be and so increase risk of another, different injury, as well as the possibility of a weakness where previous injury occurred. So he would be off my list off targets if I was choosing.

We are not really looking for a combative midfielder, more of a pressing, high-energy player, such as Keita, who you rightly point out is not a lot like Kante really.}

9.) 19 Feb 2018 15:01:11
Cheers for the replies Ed.

I'd like us to be looking for someone who can take Hendersons slightly deeper role, when he is injured or rested, but could also be used further up the pitch in the pressing, high energy capacity yoy have described.

The worst thing about all of this is that if I were looking around Europe for such a player I would only really find one that fits the bill.

Young, very fit, high energy, decent on the ball, lots of potential, experience in England.

And that is Emre Can. Which is a shame.

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't even consider Can for the role personally, he has not got the right mentality and is far too forgetful of his defensive responsibilities. There are many who fit the bill far better, Allan of Napoli, Ndidi of Leicester off the top of my head.}

10.) 19 Feb 2018 14:26:25
Doucoure is perfect and he will end up at spurs as the Long term replacement for Dembele. We are looking outside England. I wouldn’t mind Yuri Tielemans from Monaco, Kovacic from Real,

11.) 19 Feb 2018 15:13:53
Fair enough mate. Cheers for the responses.

I'd like us to take a chance on Nampalys Mendy. He would likely be available quite cheap, and even if he doesn't kick on to become a great player he would be a solid squad player for many years to come.



10 Feb 2018 14:10:50
One for ed2 if you’re about please.

You mentioned recently that Navas is a GK we’ve shown interest in. We already know about Allison, I wondered if there are anymore gk’s you know if we have an interest in?

Thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - as I have said before, circumstances may we’ll be that you put aside thoughts of Alisson. Interest from Liverpool and another side remains in Navas. I expect he will be the very clear target for Klipperty in the summer. I am not aware of any other GKs the club is showing interest in but I am sure that scouts will keep an eye on players as the season progresses.}

1.) 10 Feb 2018 14:35:33
Is he a free agent in the summer ed?

Hope they don’t try to use him in some swap deal for salah.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

2.) 10 Feb 2018 14:58:27
Nava's is a good keeper in my opinion.

I'm just not sure "good" is the level we need. He's certainly stable though. Not really got any weaknesses, and rarely makes mistakes. He just doesn't really have any stand out abilities as a keeper.

I'd support him though. He'd still be the best keeper we've had since Reina left. Bar hasn't been set very high though 😂.

3.) 10 Feb 2018 15:18:29
I take it Madrid have a replacement already lined up?

4.) 10 Feb 2018 15:46:01
Sorry MK, Navas is nothing like a good keeper. He’s a show pony like Casillas, ask yourself why Madrid are so desperate to replace him? He throws himself around at shots he should reasonably save and makes basic mistakes that cost goals, add to that he’s too easily beaten at his near post or anything over his head and he’s no better than Mignolet. We’ll not mention his inability to deal with crosses. The only thing he has is that he’s ok with the ball at his feet. If we signed him it would be repeating the same mistakes we always appear to do with keepers.

5.) 10 Feb 2018 16:01:16
It's Real Madrid to be fair Dennis. They replaced Ozil just because the fans got bored of him and wanted an expensive, shiny, new player.

I wouldn't pick Navas, but he's won League titles and Champions leagues in Real Madrid's net, across several seasons. So whilst he isn't world class, he's clearly not bad either.

Casillas gets a bad rap on here too, i think. I agree Casillas was hugely over rated and never world class, but he was still a good keeper in his prime.

Real Madrid replace anybody as and when they feel like it though, so that is not a fair barometer of his abilities. I do agree that we should be looking for better. If Klopp wants Navas, we should support him though.

6.) 10 Feb 2018 16:49:36
MK, I have watched Navas since his Levante days and right now, he is not who we need. He has regressed for a while now since he played at the WC where for me, he was the best GK, neck and neck with Neuer. Navas is poor on crosses, lacks the athleticism off his line like Karius does for example as RM do not play a high line, and does not command his box enough.

I do agree that RM fans wanted DDG from jump and Navas was never their guy even tho he helped them win a hatful of Cups in the past 3 seasons, a very good shot stopper has, good reflexes and. Not sold on him as he has regressed from the WC days, IMO.

7.) 10 Feb 2018 18:03:55
He is a really poor keeper who let's in soft goals. He hardly has anything to do at Madrid and yet still looks rotten when called upon. Madrid have been desperate to get shot of him for ages. We shouldn’t be the mug punters to take him.

{Ed002's Note - You keep posting the same thing over and over and you just don't seem to get it that he is a player that Klopp would like.}

8.) 10 Feb 2018 21:00:33
Fair point Ed. It’s just frustrating that it’s a crucial position that we keep getting wrong and it looks like we’re going to get it horribly wrong again if Klopp gets his way. If Keylor Navas is reading this, the weather here is horrible and the food awful. You should stay in Spain 😉.

9.) 11 Feb 2018 03:38:06
Dennis you said the same thing about the ox for weeks and weeks and were proved very wrong. Navas wouldn't be my first choice but he is miles ahead of migs. Understand madrid have a better squad than us but they would barely have got close to a trophy if navas was the same standard as migs. They are looking to replace him with arguably the worlds best goalkeeper not some average keeper. There are very few teams that wouldn't want to replace their keeper with DDG given the opportunity!

10.) 11 Feb 2018 09:57:41
Has he been proved wrong about ox? I'd love him to be top notch but still find he's inconsistent just like his arsenal days.

11.) 11 Feb 2018 13:59:54
Farmo, without directly quoting I think the word used was ‘woeful’ about the ox. He has been far from that.




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16 May 2018 12:23:59
I'm not knocking him at all and have faith he can be our no1 and continue to improve. i just don't think it's outrageous trapp has been chosen over him.

anyone outraged by that has red tinted specs on, sorry.




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16 May 2018 07:08:31
Is it a disgrace? He’s only reallly played 6 months of proper football this year and 10 games the season before that.

If you’re not first choice GK for world cups then any other call up is essentially anonymous shy of injuries.




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10 May 2018 07:57:00
That bicycle kick by Coates though Ed 😅.


{Ed001's Note - well remembered.}



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18 Apr 2018 13:20:40
I'd have to disagree. you only sign someone of huge talent if you need them and it would be of benefit to both parties.

it wouldn't be of benefit to de ligt or gomez to warming the bench and our money could be better invested elsewhere.

you don't really rotate CB's like you do other positions and in the main need a settled back 4.




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13 Feb 2018 07:21:48
I’d take that rumour with a pinchi of salt if I were you.

I’ll get my coat lads 😅.





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22 May 2018 11:55:43
Southgate is far from a yes man and has proved that with his selection. finally someone omitting wilshere and the likes of hart and smalling.

I'm not his biggest fan but to say he is a yes man is simply not true.

i'm gutted for hendo but kane being captain is hardly outrageous is it? his behaviour recently was not cool there are plenty of people out there who have been/ are captains who've behaved poorly.

nothing to see here but a biased liverpool fan view.




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18 May 2018 17:57:28

People clamour for insight on a daily basis and the second me get one people do nothing but whinge about who we’re after.

Again, fans have been proven wrong on numerous occasions but still think they know more than the people in charge.




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18 May 2018 12:58:47
That’s fair mate.




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18 May 2018 12:39:12
to be honest MK, you've massively underachieved in your fifa career. I've won 8 BPL's and 6 champs league with hartlepool utd on mine!




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18 May 2018 12:36:52
FFS, people want depth and then when we show interest in a quality player they get all negative an paranoid.

Man City manage to keep happy - Aguero, Sane, Jesus, Sterling, Bernardo Silva, de bruyne, fernandinho, gundogan, david silva.

the arrival of dembele would be perfect timing to ensure mane, salah and bobby don't rest on their laurels. at present they are in zero danger of being dropped.