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23 Aug 2018 09:16:49
Hi Ed’s, the transfer page is looking a bit bare today! I thought I’d ask whether you have any transfer updates for foreign clubs and our players? As always, much appreciated and have a cracking day!

{Ed002's Note - There might yet be a loan or two but the club have continued to price Origi out of a move, so something needs to give.}

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23 Aug 2018 10:30:34
Is Markovic still with us, or did I miss his departure?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool know what they need to do.}

23 Aug 2018 12:50:35
What exactly is wrong with Markovic?

Is he just simply not good enough or is there more to it? I can barely remember seeing him play!

23 Aug 2018 13:33:16
Something about image rights if I remember right. Who was in charge of this ridiculous deal?

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the image rights, those payments have finished.}

23 Aug 2018 14:41:12
Thanks Ed002. Appreciate the update! Shame for Origi LFC haven’t lowered the price. I’d love to see him develop in a permenant team rather than bitting and bobbing on loans. All the best!

23 Aug 2018 15:06:50
JTaylor, the fact that he's not as good a Shaqiri means that he'd find minutes very hard to come by. It's a shame as he looked good in flashes when we signed him, but I guess he hasn't progressed enough from there.

23 Aug 2018 16:30:51
Whether this has any correlation or not I've no idea, but Markovic seemed to stop being picked after he was sent off in the Europa League.

23 Aug 2018 23:41:35
He had a decent spell until that Everton bloke done his ankle in.

23 Aug 2018 23:46:33
One of the softest sending offs you'll see too. not a bad little player hope he comes good somewhere.

Maybe Celtic.

20 Aug 2018 19:55:25
Karius gone on a permenant deal now ed?

{Ed002's Note - Besiktas say it is a two year loan for a fixed fee, a club performance based obligation to buy at an agreed fixed fee with Liverpool having a sell on clause based on a percentage of the profit made from any future sale on a sliding scale. Effectively gone for good.}

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20 Aug 2018 20:34:02
Good luck to him, hope he turns his career around.

20 Aug 2018 21:33:38
Good luck to him 👍.

{Ed002's Note - Good for you Ron.}

20 Aug 2018 21:59:34
Wish him all the best, I really hope he goes on to have a very good career.

Surely means migs will be kept to jan at least.

{Ed002's Note - Right, he sure as hell will be unhappy given the work his agent has done.}

20 Aug 2018 22:03:35
Agree good luck to Karius and I think it's the right decision for him to develop elsewhere. Having just watched the Palace game, Alisson is a breast though and absolutely makes a difference in a game we would not have won last season.

20 Aug 2018 22:16:03
Does this mean Allison will wear the number 1 shirt now.

{Ed002's Note - It is a shirt number, who cares?}

20 Aug 2018 22:34:49
I genuinely wish him all the best.
I had issues with him but it was never a personal thing. He wasn’t suited to the premier league. If he comes back to Anfield as an opponent he will get a big cheer from me 👍.

20 Aug 2018 22:27:54
I thought once it’s registered it was there for the season, and Ed002 I know he was looking at leaving but wasn’t Besiktas an option for him? Is there many teams left as an option for migs?

{Ed002's Note - His agent has been trying.}

20 Aug 2018 22:30:33
I hope Karius can regain his form and confidence with a fresh start.
Ed02, with Napoli and Besiktas both choosing different keepers to Mignolet, has he run out of options, or are there other clubs possibly interested. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - His agent wants a move - and January will never be good.}

20 Aug 2018 23:05:24
Best of luck to Karius. I wish it would have worked out for him here, but I'm happy that he is getting a fresh start.

21 Aug 2018 00:30:35
I know he made mistakes. never met anyone who didn't. Sorry he is going and will always remember his part in getting us the Champs league final. I seem to recall he was an integral part of that. Good luck to you Karius YNWA.

21 Aug 2018 08:42:56
I still feel really sorry for Karius - maybe he was not at Alissons standard but he helped stabilise us last year until the final and didn’t deserve anything like the abuse those scumbags gave him. Nobody should ever have their life or worth judged by one game of football.

I sincerely hope he doesn’t associate all Liverpool ‘fans’ the same way and he goes on be successful and to look past that one game and to cherish some of the wonderful matches he played in for us and helped create. I sincerely believe we would never have even gotten to the final without him.

YNWA Karius, wishing you all the best.

21 Aug 2018 09:21:38
Sad to see him go. However Alisson is a clear improvement and certainly our number 1. Karius deserves a chance to be a number 1 for another top team.

Good luck to him.

21 Aug 2018 17:17:31
I find it very hard to feel sorry for someone who let down all his teammates and tens of millions of fans around the world, on two occassions in the clubs biggest game in a decade, all for a loss of concentration that you find it hard to believe a sunday league player would make. I also find it hard to be sympathetic given that after said mistake, instead of offering to give up his holiday to train all summer and reclaim some dignity (as many of our players have offered to do over the past few years despite not cocking up) he chose to go on holiday without shame and absolutely blitz his social media. And then on top of all that, when we sign a world class player in his position, which all things considered was warranted, he decides to complain about it in public to the press.

I’m not saying i have any particular distain for the guy, i wish him well, but he has left like a spoilt brat and i will not miss him anymore than i did Enrique, Johnson or Balotelli. Mignolet will not get a move he has probably been looking towards for a much longer period of time and still has handled it with more grace than Karius has.

{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool will have to find someone else for the death wishes now. Someone made a really foul attack on TAA earlier - perhaps him?}

21 Aug 2018 19:04:16
I think you are talking utter rubbish Anonymous Woolback.

Are you forgetting the two point plank shots he saved earlier in that match that any keeper would have been forgiven for letting in. or the fact that he may well have been concussed. or that he had a Liverpool shirt on and was doing his best to represent that. Perhaps not having a rest when everyone else had the world cup in their sights would have fixed the loss or maybe the death threats would have convinced him to stay at melwood.

21 Aug 2018 22:09:29
Sorry redalLover but you are talking rubbish, a keeper that makes the mistakes he made isn't good enough, end of, the fact he made 2 saves that as you say "any keeper would have been forgiven for letting in" does not mean he is let off for making 2 of the most basic errors in arguably the biggest game of Liverpools recent history, yes I feel for Karius but he will move on and maybe/ hopefully have a great career, its just not happened for him at LFC.

22 Aug 2018 16:03:27
Some of you guys talk as if they expect a goalie to never make a mistake. Every player in every game makes mistakes (even Messi) . Its just that's its more obvious when its the goalie. So Karius stuffed up - hardly calls for the level of abuse he has copped. And nor does it mean he isn't good enough. Its how he responds that indicates whether he should be kept or not.

23 Aug 2018 13:16:32
Wish him all the best, the threats he received were bang out of order but we have our fair share of bell end supporters
I’m sure he can still have a very good career.
All you guys saying he got us to the champions league final are only slightly right. he was in goal for the games. he made some saves, as would many many keepers but he hardly showed us he was world class, we got to the final due to out scoring those in our way.

20 Aug 2018 15:26:07
Hello Redmen,

Sorry there was no loan update last week, I was Globe trotting. I wanted to go with ED2 but instead I was stuck with my wife.

Anyways I am back now, I hope you didn't miss me to much.

Danny Ings made his first start for his boyhood club Southampton and with his first start came his first goal.
Unfortunately Saints lost 2-1 to the bitter blues of Merseyside but I think we all agree its good to see Ings fit and firing.

Awoniyi is finally up and runnig with his first goal for Gent as they beat Jagiellnia 3-1 to reach the 4th round of qualifying for the europa.
Despite his lack of goals so far this season Awoniyi has started every game as the lone striker and has been a big contribution to the team.

Young left back Arroyo back with the Mallorca B team for the season opened his account for the club with his first senior goal.
His goal proved to be the difference as Mallorca B beat Poblense 1-0 in the season opener.

Wilson featured midweek for Derby as they beat Oldham 2-0 in the league cup.
Wilson got his first assist of the season as his pinpoint delivery was headed in for the opener.
Injury unfortunately ruled him out of the weekend defeat to Millwall.

Woodburn has waited for his first start for Sheffield Utd and he finally got it last week in the league cup. Unfortunately it was not a game to remember as United lost to Hull on penalties. Woodburn did however score his spotkick.
Things went from bad to worse for Woodburn who made his first league start on Saturday as Utd hosted Norwich.
A poor first half saw him substituted at half time. Utd went on to win 2-1.

Herbie Kane had an impressive game as Doncaster knocked Scunthorpe out the league cup last week.
Following his impressive midweek performance Kane kept his spot as Doncaster lost 1-0 to Burton at the weekend.

Shamal George started his first game for Tranmere in a 3-1 league cup loss to Blackburn. There was little he could do about the goals. George was back on the bench at the weekend.

Games are coming thick and fast for Ejaria and Kent at Rangers.
Ejaria started against Maribor in a Europa qualifier where a 0-0 draw saw them through to the 4th round. He also started the weekends 3-1 win over Hibs.
Kent came on as a sub against Maribor and played the full 90 against Hibs. It was his deflected corner that lead to the opening goal.
On a side note its good to see Gerrard make a good start to life as Rangers manager. Unbeaten in 9 and one round away from qualifying for the Europe league. Does anybody know the last time Rangers featured in Europe?

Lastly Bogdan featured as Hibs lost 3-0 to Molde and crashed out in a europa qualifier. To make matters worse he injured his hip in the game and missed the weekends action.

And that's your lot.

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20 Aug 2018 15:59:19
Big thanks for the update carts woodburns form sounds a bit worrying is he not settling in Sheffield.

20 Aug 2018 16:01:04
Great to see you back, Carra. Love the update. Thanks for sharing.

20 Aug 2018 16:18:07
It's early days Tc77. The championship is a big step up from the u23 league and very physical/ competitive. he's got the skill set it might just take him a bit of time to adjust to the league.

20 Aug 2018 16:34:59
Thanks for the update Carra.

Was it 2007? I think they made it to the Europa league Semis. Back when it was the Uefa cup.

20 Aug 2018 20:41:21
Thank you for that.

20 Aug 2018 22:35:22
Cheers carra 🏆.

20 Aug 2018 23:12:28
Tranmere played Walsall mate.

20 Aug 2018 23:14:00
Out of interest Carra, do you know where woodburn has been playing, positionally speaking?

21 Aug 2018 08:26:00
Firmane - at the weekend he played at the tip of the diamond. I’m not sure where he started in the league cup match prior to that.

21 Aug 2018 10:18:57
Thanks Carra, was hoping he’d play through the middle! Just hope he takes his chance and maybe toughens up a bit.

21 Aug 2018 13:57:48
Only because they're my hometown team am I mentioning it, but it was Kilmarnock that Rangers played at the weekend, not Hibs.

I watched the game (and have watched a few of Rangers Europa games this season) . Kent is really fun to watch, very tricky, but at least 50% of the time at the weekend he lost the ball without doing anything with it. Definitely a good winger there, but needs to make better decisions.

Ejaria has looked good going forward for Rangers in the games that i've seen, but seems a little positionally naive, and doesn't contribute a lot defensively.

Steven Gerrard has had a really solid start, although they haven't really beaten anyone they shouldn't have beaten anyway. He's built a decent squad for a title challenge, but a lot of questions will be answered when they play Celtic next month.

21 Aug 2018 19:08:35
Will be interesting to see Gerrard vs Rodgers in the dugout when Rangers play Celtic.

20 Aug 2018 10:25:31
Just reading that it's looking like Karius will get his move but Migs could stay, for now. Do you believe this to be the case Eds?
Thanks very much.

{Ed001's Note - possibly, but Migs' reps are still trying to get him a move.}

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20 Aug 2018 13:57:18
Is there a possibility that they could both leave and we have the youngsters as back up.

20 Aug 2018 13:52:59
If both get a move are there any free agents we could move for as back up?

20 Aug 2018 14:20:24
Is the move permanent?

20 Aug 2018 14:20:48
Pepe Reina?

20 Aug 2018 17:42:25
Reina joined AC Milan in the summer.

20 Aug 2018 17:59:46
Oh man! I miss the bald headed buffoon 😂.

19 Aug 2018 11:58:41
Any update on what's going to happen with Origi?

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19 Aug 2018 13:40:57
With Ings gone, with rumours of Solanke being looked at for a loan up North, and with Sturridge's uncertain fitness/ injuries long term outlook, it seems to me that Origi will be kept for the season. Or maybe he'll go out on loan and Solanke will be kept. I will add that I feel a loan would do Solanke more good than it would do Origi. He's had a few and not really gotten anywhere.

19 Aug 2018 15:56:42
Dortmund apparently interested.

19 Aug 2018 10:56:20
Just came across this. Not sure if true or not.

Marko Grujic set to join Hertha Berlin on a season-long loan after agreeing extension to his #LFC contract.

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19 Aug 2018 13:43:19
It's all over the digital media and I hope it's true. The last item I read said he was already on his way to Germany. I wonder if anybody can confirm he has definitely signed his contract extension?

19 Aug 2018 14:19:17
ArAy. If he's gone out on loan, he will have signed an extension. The club wouldn't loan a player in the last year of their contract.

19 Aug 2018 15:06:05
Exactly, EpicPotato. I'm aware. I was just trying to see if the flying part to Germany today, could be true, and that could possibly happen only if an extension has been signed.

{Ed001's Note - it is correct, he has signed a new deal and then gone out on loan.}

19 Aug 2018 20:16:41
How long was the deal does anyone know.

19 Aug 2018 20:30:56
Thanks for clarifying Ed001 👍.

{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome, I think the club have officially confirmed it with an announcement on the website. However they have not mentioned how long the deal was for.}

20 Aug 2018 05:03:24
I think they just mentioned for the season. Think this is a good arrangement, a year in bunderleague playing will be good for the lad. Hope he does well as competition in our midfield is too fierce for him to get game time.

{Ed001's Note - I thought he was asking about the new contract not the loan sorry. The loan is for the season.}

20 Aug 2018 06:39:04
I think you’re actually right Ed, he was probably asking about the contract 😂

Have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I need to save that, to remember this moment when I was right. It might never happen again!}

17 Aug 2018 23:48:46
Ed002 a question for you if I may - and bear In mind I may be getting things mixed up here.
You can sign ‘unatttached’ players any time right?
I remember you explaining something about buy out or release clauses (can’t rememvwr which) while back, where the club theoretically pays the player to pay his own clause, therefore buying him out his contract.
I’m not trying to find ways to break the rules - just curious - but if a player buys himself out his contract, he is effectively a free agent right?
What stops a club doing this outside the transfer window?

{Ed002's Note - A player who makes himself a free agent outside of a transfer window cannot be signed by another club until the next transfer window as the rules specifically require him to be a free agent before the previous transfer window closes - hence the reason why Claudio Marchisio left Juventus yesterday whilst the transfer window was still open and not today. Clubs can also only pay a player to release himself from his contract in Spain, else the money is taxable so it would be necessary to pay double.}

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18 Aug 2018 10:29:24
Ah so no English team can take Marchisio as he wasn’t a free in their window?
Thanks for the reply, informative as always!

{Ed002's Note - That is not what I said.}

18 Aug 2018 11:37:05
Cracking question then Firmane and again great insight in the answer Ed002. Been following football for 36 years yet every days a school day on here.

19 Aug 2018 00:23:15
Indeed, JK23.

19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}

19 Aug 2018 11:49:52
That is where I’m getting mixed up Ed, why can marchisio sign for English team of our window is shut, yes Markovic can’t sign for an English team? What am I missing lol.

{Ed002's Note - One is a free agent and one is contracted to Liverpool and can only be loaned.}

19 Aug 2018 20:19:44
Sorry ed, I meant in your example if Liverpool decided to end their relationship?

{Ed002's Note - He would not have been available when the transfer window was open. There is no way for Liverpool to cheat here. It is all perfectly clear.}

20 Aug 2018 00:43:42
Yet again a conspiracy against us! Not allowing us to cheat 😡.

20 Aug 2018 11:19:35
Thats a good move for Turnbull, but I hope he realises its like a foreign country over there!

17 Aug 2018 19:09:49
What ever happened with Chirivella? I thought he was sold to Rosenborg, but he's in the U23s match today.

{Ed002's Note - He opted not to make the move, but a transfer to Celtic in Scotland beckons.}

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17 Aug 2018 22:31:07
Thank you.

18 Aug 2018 06:45:49
Would it be permanent or a loan, any info on that Eds? Big ups to the kid for what ever reason he decided against the move a lot of players would have. Pedro ain't a kid no more so hope this turns out well for him like Hendo and the Fulham show and he doesn't end up like Borini with his Sunderland episode. Kinda got me thinking how these kids get taken to foreign land ( in the sense that new life changing decisions will be taken) only find broken promises and lack of proper plan in place for the . I get that money and agents significant role but we talking human lives. We idolize them and to certain envy them but when you look at people like Gary Speed you realize that these kids have every day emotions, challenges and tribulations.

{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure it would be permanent as he has no future at Liverpool. As for your more general comment, you are right that it should be more of a concern than it is. Some countries, like Brazil, have restriced moves abroad until the player is 18. Others allow younger players to move if their families move and have jobs not provided by the clubs. Most require education needs to be met in line with national standards - which is what happens in England regardless of language barriers etc.. But there are much more stringent rules coming. Manchester City got away wilth an issue last year by the skin of their teeth when an Italian passport of convience came to their rescue (as the rules discuss such passports but only in terms of adults). Interestingly Pipco is going down that road right now. But as you say, and certainly when moving to a country with an entirely different culture, language, food etc.. And clubs need to recognise when they send players abroad they need to keep a close eye on them to make sure they don't end up spending too much time alone playing electronic games. For instance there was a problem with a couple of players on loan in the Netherlands (where they were simply sat around in apartments for hours on end) and that resulted in the club concerned having them get involved with spending some time with the local community (schools and charities) and putting someone out there for a couple of months to steady everything, and get them playing golf etc.. A very good point, thanks.}

18 Aug 2018 20:13:13
Thanks on the detailed response Eds, Iam glad teams seem to have recordnised the issue and importantly actively working to words some sort of improvement. Some times Iam just left star struck from reading your response . Legendary stuff. Keep well.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

20 Aug 2018 07:57:53
Can someone please explain who PipCo is?
Coutinho?

20 Aug 2018 22:42:44
Isn’t he a pal of #WDS?

17 Aug 2018 08:38:32
Klavan is apparently heading to Italy today after Liverpool agreed a £2 million deal with Cagliari.

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17 Aug 2018 10:05:41
Good luck to him, I like Ragnar.

It would seem that Klopp is putting more faith in Joe as a CB this season, which is good news.

Matip is back in training too.

17 Aug 2018 12:24:39
If true then good luck to him, I always felt he gave his all and was one of our more dependable CBs in a shaky defence before we brought in VVD.

17 Aug 2018 13:02:12
Would you think it is because of Gomez or do you think might be Phillips coming through as well as Klavan was down the pecking order any way?

17 Aug 2018 13:36:24
I reckon it'll be a case of "£2m in the pocket is better than £1-2m spent on wages for someone who might play 5 games this season". Business decision, and a good one, although I do like Klavan, never let us down.

17 Aug 2018 13:57:16
Good luck to the Ragman, always gave his all.

17 Aug 2018 15:09:56
Best wishes to Ragnar.
A true professional.
YNWA.

17 Aug 2018 15:52:04
It seems we'll see Nat Phillip's a lot more this season, if Klavan leaves. Mario is now injury prone; Gomez has a history too. Lovren missed weeks at a time from time to time. Van Dijk has had a long lay off before.
I like Nat Phillips though. Seems very composed.

17 Aug 2018 17:44:00
Mario?
Did I miss a signing in the summer?

17 Aug 2018 18:44:02
Hahaha Matip!

17 Aug 2018 19:59:42
If it’s lovren and vvd first choice and Gomez and Matip second, we don’t need Klavan, so the money as saved wages is okay. Always got Phillips and I reckon Fabinho or hendo could do a job there if desperate.

17 Aug 2018 23:46:02
Didn't expect to see this happen to be honest. I thought Klopp really rated him.
Good luck to the lad.

18 Aug 2018 06:49:30
Was he not a short term solution from the get go, think he does deserve to be allowed to move for regular football. Best of luck.

22 Aug 2018 06:46:27
I liked Ragner. Would've much rather preferred for Matip to go, but with all those injuries no one would be interested in buying him.

All the best to Klavan!

17 Aug 2018 23:41:10
Reports that we will sign Rabiot on a pre-contract in January. I doubt that is the case but, it's a bit random so I'm wondering if we have any interest in him.

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17 Aug 2018 03:31:02
How many central midfielders are we supposed to stockpile?
We have already have 6 senior ones and a couple of prospects looking for game time. Rabiot makes no sense at all.

17 Aug 2018 05:01:15
Well we were looking at Fekir all summer, if Keita is playing in the more advanced attacking role now then Rabiot makes sense as a central midfielder.

17 Aug 2018 08:07:21
Every man and his dog will be in for him if he's on a free.

17 Aug 2018 10:22:10
I am sure i have read in a few places that he is a Liverpool fan tho Bobbys_teeth so maybe we can get ahead of everyone because on that.

17 Aug 2018 10:22:35
He's a good player, but I think he'll either end up at Barca, or Juve if he moves.

Chances are that he'll get a bumper new contract and more playing time at PSG, though.

I can't see him coming to LFC - we've got too many midfielders as it is. He does seem a little temperamental too, if the reports are to be believed.

17 Aug 2018 11:53:58
Possible replacement for Milli?

{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't hold your breath.}

17 Aug 2018 11:31:11
You never have to many players if your buying good quality.

X quality player comes in, someone lesser moves on. That's how you build quality.

We sign de bryune tomorrow, then wijnaldum moves on. It's not nasty or disrespectful bu5 that's how it's done.

Why do yu all live in a world where we can't sell players or our players are irreplaceable.

We have a very very good team but more quality is always out there.

17 Aug 2018 14:19:52
True, Kloppsboss, but you have to be able to actually move those players on.

Ultimately, there's no point in having so many players that they can't all be registered and you definitely don't want someone on 100k a week nowhere near the bench.

I suspect a couple will go before the end of August and possibly a couple in January. We're still pretty well stocked in pretty much every position, though.

17 Aug 2018 14:33:12
James milner gets better with age. In 8 years he will be thought about as one of the worlds best.

 


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