06 Dec 2018 01:17:47
To answer something reds question. Firstly, I'd like to say, another shocker from the lineman who should of ruled out the goal.

What a save from Alisson to keep it out at that point.

But, your question " What is the rule about kicking the ball out of the keepers hands? Is it just that he's safe with "two hands" on it regardless of whether the ball is on the deck or not? Or does he have to be holding it with two hands off the ground? "

Law 12; fouls and misconduct, section 2.

A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:

the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e. g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands
or arms (except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save)
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands.

In summary, long gone has been the "two hands on the ball " argument. Goalkeepers are actually very well protected now, and so they should be after the Petr Cech injury.

Alisson had two hands, and it was on the ground. He could of had one hand, either way, it's a foul. And this is under indirect free kicks, because in theory there is no contact with the keeper, but only the ball.

Also believe the linesman should have spotted that from his angle.
Really makes me wonder how a blatant offside and dispossession of a keeper in control of the ball, got past him. Makes you wonder eh.


1.) 06 Dec 2018
06 Dec 2018 02:46:31
Exactly.


2.) 06 Dec 2018
06 Dec 2018 07:54:03
I kmow that's the objective ruling benny, but it just looked like play on to me. And most of the time i'm going to guess the refs make instant subjective judgements aboit these kinds of things all the time.


3.) 06 Dec 2018
06 Dec 2018 10:37:05
You say objective ruling faith, but we, as referees, are there to implement the rules. It is our game and we are in control, not objectively. It’s poor from the supposedly best officials in the world, week in week out.


4.) 06 Dec 2018
06 Dec 2018 13:14:22
I watched the highlights only and to me it appeared Allison actually knocked the ball away with his left hand whilst trying to get both on it. Seemed he had hold of it with his right at first.


5.) 06 Dec 2018
06 Dec 2018 13:15:15
It may have been offside but it wasn’t a foul for me. The Burnley player had every right to go for that ball, I’d hate to see football become a non contact sport.


6.) 07 Dec 2018
07 Dec 2018 07:38:34
Benny, its impossoble for refs to remove subjectivity. Ya'll are still himan after all. Even ex refs turnes pundits say things "not enough contact to be a pen for me". could get multiple refs look at that. Am sure all of them would tell ya the law and then a mix would rule it differently depending on how they viewed it then applied the law.