04 Nov 2018 10:00:27
Getting a draw away to Arsenal used to be classed as a good result in the past.
Now Liverpool are expected to put 5 past them, why can't some fans accept Arsenal played well and are clearly much improved.
Liverpool cannot win every game.
My only real issue is the midfield is not very creative. Hinsight is great, if Shaqiri played we may have been too open in midfield, who knows?
I still think Keita will make a huge difference to our midfield once he gets used to the league, ultimately we had midfield injuries but went to Arsenal and got a draw, not perfect but a good result.


1.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 10:22:52
Spot on, Greenflash. In a game like that away from home, you first of all try to contain the opposition hence, I have NO prob. with Klopp's approach going in esp. vs a team in great form and at home. Yes, the midfield was not creative and lacked any type of control and direction and this is where Hendo is important. Pretty sure if Shaq had started and we were too open and got beat, the same people (not you, surely) you know, thos who thought LFC should put 5 past arsenal at home, would be saying he should have been more pragmatic. Same ol' nonsense as these guys are NEVER wrong. I do agree that Keita is needed while Fab keeps getting up to speed with the PL cos DANG, he struggled last night.


2.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 11:44:32
Why can't some fans accept the fact that everybody has their own opinion and, just because people disagree, doesn't make them right or wrong. I was disappointed as I thought we didn't play to our potential, had the clearer cut chances, and conceded somewhat cheaply. Fans expectations have changed as the team has improved and got better, that's a good thing right? Because if our expectations were the same then it would likely mean we were a long way from challenging for the league. As it stands we are not, and we could've won the game yesterday - I don't think anyone should be castigated just for having that view.


3.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 11:57:52
Spot on Seano. It’s all healthy debate but some people take it so personally if someone dares to disagree or share a different view. If we knew as much as we thought we did then we would be playing, managing or officiating in the premier league. Not sat here typing about it.


4.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 12:08:25
We 're not at our best but 8 wins 3 draws is excellent so we can't be disapointed.


5.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 12:43:27
Seano not sure if your post was directed to me BUT if it was, my issue is not people having diff. opinions. Our expectations may have changed BUT the realities of football has NOT. My issue is consistency. Had we lost yesterday, I would still defend Klopp's initial approach of keeping it tight cos that is what I would do esp. recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal. What I don't like (and I am free to air my opinion on this as anyone is) is when people automatically think Klopp was wrong cos he did not do what they wanted. And had he done what they wanted from jump and it failed, they will still blame him for it. That lacks any form of context.

I want Klopp to do what is right and NOT what I want. Also, I try to put myself in the mind of a manager and what he is thinking and Klopp may have done something I disagree with BUT I can understand it based on the context of a game. "If you can't win a big game on the road, you better not lose it" comes to mind here REGARDLESS of what my or anyone's opinion is. That is how a manager thinks, IMO.


6.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 13:09:37
Brover why didn’t arsenal set up to keep it tight to counter our brilliance. After all they are a team that’s in transition which is a term we used for 3 seasons and yet they are brilliant after 3 months of theirs. Klopp seems to like having the 3 similar players in midfield and has done for a number of seasons now. Not for the first time yesterday our midfield 3 were the second best midfield on the park. Unfortunately our front 3 were unable to bail us out and get us the win.


7.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 13:23:53
You are having a laugh BRover. Stop this protecting klopp from criticism.
Recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal? Like how? Xhaka is a crap midfielder and if you surrender to him then that says a lot about our players.
Klopp is at fault coz he signs players and he has no clue who he wants to field in the midfield.


8.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 14:58:35
Anyone who doesn’t recognize that Arsenal are a much improved team from the start of the season isn’t very smart. City were fortunate to play them early before Emery had time to implement his methods. Not many teams will come away from points at the Emirates.


9.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 15:02:55
Xhaka may not be the best player in the world but that is not to take away how good Arsenal are playing under a new manager in a short period of time. Have a little respect at least. Their new midfielder (Uruguayan) was special yesterday. We had enough good chances to win and maybe we should have but Arsenal caused us a lot of problems, they were very good.

{Ed0333's Note - drawing is still a bitter pill to swallow mate. We had so many excellent situations to score and win the game. Yes Emery has done a remarkable job in such a short time and yes they were good but we should have won. I’m not a fan of our midfield I still don’t think the mix is exactly right but for me the biggest difference is the dissipation of Mane, Salah and Bobby. No one expected the telepathy of last season to repeat itself but they’ve regressed so much that when they are breaking three v three they can’t even play simple passes that would create goal scoring opportunities. Salah and Bobby are seriously culpable of this. The hope and silver lining is that they have to come good and when they do the mood on here will be a lot cheerier. I’m loving the psychology of our fans though thinking we should be going to Arsenal and winning. It’s not arrogance but confidence born out of what this team has achieved and Klopp’s leadership.


10.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 15:03:06
A point is better than nothing and take nothing from Arsenal the really showed up and caused us problems we played well in most parts we have a few criticisms but you don't stand still while your winning you keep trying to improve that's why constructive criticism is good but some get a bit carried away.


11.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 15:04:18
"these guys are NEVER wrong", wow the hypocrisy. Yet again Brover your forcing your opinion onto this poster, trying to belittle him / her with your "not you surely" comment. I actually agree with most of what you said, but it's how you put your posts across. You post in a very condescending way, with a wiff of the know all about you.


12.) 04 Nov 2018
04 Nov 2018 18:34:40
Waro, me indicating that I am not directing a point at someone I am responding directly to, is hypocrisy and condescending and belittling to you? That's your opinion and I don't have to agree with it.

Fillet Weld or Harry (I pretty sure that is who this is), you just proved my point for me. Klopp is wrong or crap cos he did not do what you wanted. Also, if you thought Arsenal was not good enough to beat us based on their current form, then that is a conclusion you drew by yourself as the game debunked that theory. They were good enough to beat us and they proved it. That is my opinion. Cheers, man.