25 Aug 2018 15:56:03
Having a conversation earlier about 3pm kick offs and was hoping the eds could shed some light on it.

I was if the understanding that an agreement in the 1960's to not televise 3oclock games to ensure fans attended games, and therefore increased revenue.

Now in 2018, televising games would help revenue we all know how lucrative the tv deals are, is there any particular reason as to why this rule has bit been looked at? Why has this has this stayed in place all this time? Does this happen elsewhere in Europe?

I'm doubtful this would impact attendances at the ground, ask any real fan and they would rather be at the game cheering in their team, not in the couch but would make it easier for those on the UK to follow their teams.

Thanks in advance eds and reds.

P. s glad to see salah back, read your post on your return. Fantastic attitude mate Hope your on the mend pal.

{Ed002's Note - It has been looked at and the clubs don’t want it changed, and there would be nothing but a loss in revenue for the clubs as there would not be additional money, but it would need to be spread thinner - effectively equally in all divisions. A number of the clubs see a future in alternate media, streaming etc..}


1.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 16:28:26
You would have to instantly lower match day prices.

Germany is something like 22 to go to the game and 12 to watch it at home.

If it was 50 to go and 10 to watch in the comfort of your own home, especially when it's wet and freezing or your team is doing particularly badly. I'm not worried for liverpool but teams like Everton, Bournemouth, Yeovil would suffer hugely.

To be fair Maccies happy meals could be abit of good business 4 chickens nuggets, fries, coke and a match ticket for goodison. 2.69 might be a little pricey thinking about it 🤣.


2.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 19:28:04
You've also got to think about the lower league clubs. I go and watch my local team at 3pm on Saturday but if I could stay in and watch the reds I'd be indoors. Same with about 50% of the other supporters in that stadium.
Lots of lower league clubs will go out of business.


3.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 20:28:24
Completely understand your points. Ed has mentioned the pan Europe in league, this would require a restructuring the league's. Maybe we will see it then. But I think that will be the day football stops being special.


4.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 21:01:34
In 20 years the pan league will happen.

In 50 years they will look back on the decision that destoyed football.

Simply put.


5.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 21:40:14
Agrees Klopps boss.


6.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 22:06:07
no problem Kloppboss I will be dead by then.

{Ed002's Note - It will be discussed again this coming week.}


7.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 22:19:31
Nonsense. It might not be the same for the few hundred thousand that go to the matches, but it won't change too much for the few hundred million watching on TV. There will be more non professional teams for those who hark back to the good old days to go and watch live, but for everyone else there will still be high quality sporting spectacles to watch every week. It's an internationally followed sport, and time people realised it, embraced it and got used to the idea of it. Otherwise, you might as well chuck out your computers and mobile phones, your electric lighting and pot noodles and your funky automobiles. Times change, get used to it.

{Ed002's Note - It is rather naive to expect football to be converted to entirely free per view or pay per view. Either way the clubs will lose out.}


8.) 25 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 22:54:24
You can stream any game anyway. What’s the difference?

{Ed002's Note - The difference is the clubs would lose the largest part of their income.}


9.) 26 Aug 2018
25 Aug 2018 23:59:37
But is that a problem ed? Don't these things even out to match the market place? I mean, if too many people stream for free then the cost of watching will have to reduce and surely club budgets would have to adhere to the financial constraints of whatever the TV revenue was. I certainly don't imagine clubs agreeing to pay per view deals where income can't be predicted accurately. I also don't expect free football at all, officially speaking, but they need to price it so people watch it otherwise what's the point?

{Ed002's Note - It would be a major problem for clubs to lose that income. Clubs like Liverpool rely on it and yet still are building debt at a significant rate - if you don’t have the income then you can’t borrow to build the debt that some clubs are happy to accept. If there is no deal with the likes of Sky then who will provide the OB and transmission - you want to watch Liverpool on cellphone clips on Facebook whilst the club is being financially crippled - then that is the way to go.}


10.) 26 Aug 2018
26 Aug 2018 06:24:37
In the NFL games are only shown on tv in the area when it’s a sell out, so the premier league could work on that basis when showing a Saturday at 3:00 game?

{Ed001's Note - the NFL doesn't have a lower league system to worry about, it is not the same and would not help matters. The Premier League is not the issue.}


11.) 26 Aug 2018
26 Aug 2018 10:15:47
Argh my browser just reset and I lost my rather elongated reply (lucky eds) . I'll do what the tabloids do and leave out all the details which hold any weight and instead I'll just give you a dodgy analogical quote. As Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic park, "Life, uhh, finds a way".