23 Jul 2018 11:55:20
I assume that Karius will remain as our number 2. Should we have kept Ward as number2 and sent Karius on loan?

{Ed002's Note - Force the players to stay who have been screwed around by the club and abused by the fans - great idea.}


1.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 12:31:59
Sadly, abused by the fans is a label that applies to all our goalkeepers. And was earned by none of them.


2.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 12:54:54
Here we go again. Millions of supporters around the world and because a few horrible people say some despicable stuff the rest of us get tarred?


3.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 14:09:30
I will say one thing. And I'm in the karius corner. Don't get me wrong. But the same people saying ynwa, karius is one of our own etc are on here knocking Clyne and Moreno a lot. Don't they wear the shirt too?

There has to be some rationality. Criticising a player is okay and you only critisize players when they make mistakes.

It's the death threats and jeering of fans ghat is wrong. This issue should be discussed. Another rocky performance from karius and another 3 1. His body language is subtly wrong. Instead of cool and loose he looks tight and stiff. His face looks redder too. I think he's suffering. Maybe not as much as some people imagine. He's still a young good looking rich man. I doubt he's crying in the mirror every night.

It's a confidence thing is all. It'll come back. That ball on to benzema's foot was the one that did it. Then you get beat by an absolute worldy. Perfect storm.

I'm on karius's side and want whatever best for the lad but people simply criticising the morning after a game shouldn't be strung up either.

His own fans booing him, with alisson waiting in the wings. They can piss off.


4.) 23 Jul 2018
23 Jul 2018 12:20:36
Ed002, I agree we haven't been fair to Danny Ward at all, and the fact that he was held "hostage" the entire season last year while Klopp experimented on who was worse between Mignolet and Karius is lamentable.
However, if it was possible, (and it is all water under the bridge now as Danny has since moved on) I believe it would have paid Liverpool far better to keep Ward than Karius. We'll need a No. 2 goalkeeper at some point or the other this season no matter how excellent Alisson is. This current version of Karius does not even qualify for a No. 3 goalkeeper!

{Ed002's Note - Ward wants to play - Klopp has done nothing to help his career since pulling him out of a successful loan, then the end would have come for him with Klopp lying to him and telling him he would be given a chance to prove himself as his "number one". I don't know any other coach in the world who goes out publically on a regular basis to name which goalkeepers are number one, number two or number three. It is both stupid and embarrassing. As I have explained over and over - I expect Liverpool need two new goalkeepers still - maybe Klopp can't start screwing up Grabara's career, but that would still mean one more - although Klopp says the transfers are done (but we already know that he not the case). It is hard to tell if he was lying about that as well or is just being stupid - I give him the benefit of doubt and suspect the latter.}