30 May 2018 17:06:59
I'm loving the midfield upgrades and the other rumours of potential signings.

However, is anyone else concerned that with the amount we will probably end up shelling out by the end of the window, that we could possibly take the money supposedly going to be offered for Salah?

I hope he stays, but with the stadium upgrading, debt, plus recent purchases (Naby, VVD and Fab) we must be getting close to the FFP line.
I know the PL money and CL run money will help, I'm just a little concerned.

{Ed002's Note - VvD was in a different year to the others but Liverpool did make an additional payment for Nobby last season.}


1.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 17:44:29
Not 100% sure maybe ed002 can help out but stadium costs alongside youth/ community development costs are mostly separate from FFP. As investment in infrastructure doesn't count towards FFP.

Also the transfer fees won't all be paid at once and there will be some outgoings, I don't expect any of the outgoings to be massive money but the money received from Coutinho, the premier league and champions league alongside the expected sales of Sturridge, Origi?, Markovic, Grujic?, Can's wages, Ings, Mignolet, Clyne, Flanagan Lallana? and perhaps a few fringe youths like Chirivella and Ojo etc will help soften the blow.

I imagine we will be ok in the short/ medium term if we continue to qualify for champions league.

{Ed002's Note - Any infrastructure costs are excluded from the FFP calculation but obviously the costs still have to be met.

Transfer fees can be spread over a period or paid at one. Liverpool's Coutinho income so far is only €24M whereas due to the illegal approaches the club has already had to pay £70M of the fee for VvD plus £6M signing on fee to the player and £13M to his agent. They had to make an additional payment for Keita which was not insignificant in cash last year as well.}


2.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 18:43:56
YIKES, Ed. That is some serious cash for the agent.

{Ed002's Note - Higher than most, but if you cheat and get caught and chance at negotiating goes down the pan. The fee was also £15M more that Southampton were looking for from the other two interested sides. The season before the one just finished saw Liverpool top the table at about £27M in agent fees alone. Not to forget the £.5M that Liverpool paid the FA for VvD as well.}


3.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 19:01:17
£13M to the agent - wow. I'm in the wrong business.


4.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 19:07:35
Jesus, I didn’t realise the agents got so much money out of a move, more then twice what the player received as a bonus that’s madness. No wonder agents push for moves with high profile players. Something needs to be done about a cap on agent fees surely.

{Ed025's Note - mino raiola got £42m from the deal that seen pogba go from juventus to united mick..


5.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 19:16:25
Just to clarify ed002, the VVD transfer amount was paid to Southampton in one installment? No less than we deserve tbh after tapping the player up.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, £70M of the fee was paid.}


6.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 19:21:06
Wow. Just wow. How can one become an agent? I'm not too old to start a new career.

{Ed025's Note - first you turn into a leech...


7.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 19:35:48
£42 million on one transfer not to mention the other clients he has on his books and there I thought it was the footballers making all the money.

Im with you guys, Ed25 where do I sign up to become an agent?

{Ed025's Note - im afraid thats footballs biggest problem alonso, people who are non-productive taking all the money out of the game mate..


8.) 30 May 2018
30 May 2018 20:37:16
this may be a stupid question but do you think any of the financial burden would of gone on Klopp for doing any of this in the first place?


9.) 31 May 2018
31 May 2018 07:17:58
I had a chat with Mino once during a corporate event in Milan. Out of curiosity I asked what an agent does to earn such a high amount of money and his reply (after a lot of talk around the houses) was that he can convince any player to go anywhere.

I asked how often a players career is considered the top priority when talking of potential transfers and he said everytime. I followed up by asking what about when the best move for his career pays less than the highest financial move and he said he would always push the player towards the more lucrative move.

He added that even though he nearly always stood to benefit from that move its actually to insulate the player against low quality of life after football as many players don't earn enough in their career to support themselves after it ends.

The whole chat was very interesting and I could see why players listen to him, though I don't think he is as altruistic as he does.

Just an interesting anecdote for yiu all.