28 Jan 2018 11:12:13
So opinions on VAR, eds too if possible.

I flipping hate it.

I really don't care if it will help us out or giveus an extra goal/ decision/ win, it slows the game down so much.

When a team is losing or struggling, you'll already get every player or fan in the crowd screaming for a penalty or free kick or handball and now I feel the game is just going to get stopped constantly just to make sure that 'the correct decision is made'

It works well in rugby and tennis but these are stop start games anyway, and in rugby VAR is mainly used for try decisions and we now have goal-line technology for that already.

The excitement of scoring a goal gets takenaway if the players have to stand and wait for a couple of minutes before the ref confirms the goal, the celebrations were kind of taken away from West BRom yesterday and I'd hate to experience something similar.

I'm kind of over the result yesterday, I'm more concerned that the sport is being made much worse!

Wonder if I'm the only one thinking this.

{Ed002's Note - Putting aside the time issue, the problem is the precedents it creates.}

1.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:24:00
It'd early days but one thing for sure is that it gets the right decision 99% of the time.

2.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:37:23
The time issue and the misuse can be fixed and getting decisions correct is so valuable.

VAR is here to stay and I'm delighted.

{Ed002's Note - And for when it is not consulted? And when decisions are subjective?}

3.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:38:08
I'm against it, I think players shouldn't be allowed to surround the referee when he's trying to sort a decision out, they just delay things further and make things more complicated, they need to take a step back and let him do his job, it's too time consuming as it is. We have never needed VAR in the past so why now? it shouldn't be part of the game imo.

{Ed002's Note - They are not meant to.}

4.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:47:16
It's becoming a game of American football.

Where will it end/ Stop?

There will be hotdog and popcorn sellers soon lingering around the aisles as a result of the ever increasing delays in anticipating whether or not the ball did actually go over the line for a throw-in.

5.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:53:35
players aren't meant to surround the ref at any point aren't they? posted elsewhere, but for me keep it simple. use VAR to review all goals and then for the ref to refer to review certain fouls - either penalty incidents or to clarify Serious incidents.

in terms of subjectivity, the use of a video referee at their discretion for fouls etc gives the on-field another opportunity to see an incident from all angles. that will be open to subjectivity from ref to ref, but at least it gives more chance to get a decision correct.

it'll be really hard to get it full proof and I ehar what you saying ed02 about the uncalled calls that could probably be reviewed. e. g., hegazi's foul that got nothing and also for ocassions when a player is incorrectly ruled off-side when they are through on goal and the ref has stopped the play. may have to live with some of those discrepancies?

{Ed002's Note - There was a briefing to the referees after the Arsenal-Chelsea match a couple of weeks ago. So it has already been noticed}

6.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:57:52
I was at the game VAR a good idea but it takes too long. Fans don't know what's going on. At least in Rugby they talk to the crowd. Tell me how we only had 4 mins injury time in the first half (the same as the 2nd) when VAR took 3 min to sort out the Penalty let alone the offside goal and 2 substitutions through injuries made by wba. I reckon it should have been 8 mins.
Another problem is it masks the poor refereeing/ officials decisions. A couple of which were very poor.

7.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 12:04:20
VAR may get every decision right, but players will argue every decision against them. And the decision is still only subjective to the refs opinion.

But what will happen is that it'll need to be used constantly, for free kicks, corners, throw-ins. If it has been brought in the ensure every decision is a correct one, then it will take over the entire game.

I'd rather trust the ref and assistants to get most decisions correct and accept that mistakes happen sometimes.

8.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 13:18:13
I like goal line technology and offsides will work well with VAR as it’s black and white (almost) It’s just about getting the balance right. Superleague works well because you get a couple of minutes break after a try anyway so the extra time isn’t felt too much and there is a big screen at the games so the crowd can see what the officials see and get involved.

9.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 13:27:37
George T, the players complaining about the ref's decision can be stopped. Solution: The NFL. All the players and managers in the NFL know what VAR reviews and what it does not and so do the managers so there are NO complaints about the decisions. Surrounding the ref in the NFL is unheard of cos you will be ejected from the game if you run your mouth at all. Also, this idea that it takes too long is horse manure. Simple solution: The ref has a minute to review the play and if he cannot conclude that there is enough evidence to overturn or confirm, the ruling on the field stands, END OF STORY. But the players and managers will still complain cos well, it's what they do. Alas, there is no discipline of that calibre in football.

The prob is that the managers and players are just as dishonest so they crowd the ref which IMO, is not to influence the decision already made. It is to influence the next decision. That is the problem and until a concerted effort is made to make VAR work cos clearly it did in our game, there will be these types of issues.

10.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 11:47:39
Players should not be allowed to ask for it, if they go down that route captains should get 1 a game, if they are right they keep it if they are wrong it’s gone. Players shouldn’t be allowed to surround the ref as the decision once reviewed is final.

The refs need help but it’s there as an aid and not as an official. Last night he used it to double check everything he did again not the point of VAR.

11.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 13:55:32
If VAR works then why did the ref in LFC match have to wait for several minutes for decision on pen then had to go and look for himself. Does this not defeat the object?

12.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 13:59:13
I’m a huge fan of var but yesterday was a disaster. Too much too soon-they need to slow feed which times it can be implemented. Players shouldn’t be allowed to slow the game by surrounding the ref but that’s a rule that should be enforced overall. But the biggest problem of what went on yesterday was the lack of a big screen for the fans to know what exactly was being shown. It keeps them part of the game. As it is, it’s nothing but a disruption and unless the authorities push for screens, I would be very much against var.

13.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 15:39:19
I actually don't think putting things on the big screens will work. Decisions which are subjective such as a close penalty call will just cause more shouting from each set of players and fans.

If a decision isn't 'black and white' then the last thing you need is every single person in the stadium geting involved.

14.) 28 Jan 2018
28 Jan 2018 19:06:23
It needs a challenge system like tennis and cricket.
Without it there are too many flaws.