30 Aug 2017 02:49:53
Just want to start a thread on AOC.

I can't make up my mind on him. not exactly mouthwatering signing.

He does strike me as someone who with the right encouragement from Klopp could develop well.

I just feel in the last few seasons he has been wasteful with little end product, the very old flash of brilliance.

So as you can see Iv basically gone around in circles and said nothing, hence why I am interested to see some opinions.

Cheers lads.

1.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 05:16:51
Do you know where you want to play him? Coz in 6 years Wenger had no clue of his position!

2.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 06:13:27
I have to admit that I had doubts about the Mane and Wijnaldum signings last year, but they turned out to be important players for us. I hope the same happens for Oxlade.

3.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 06:59:47
Difference between Wijnaldum, Mane and Ox is that Mane and Wijnaldum are actually good footballers, Ox is not a very good footballer. Very very average at best. Would you be happy if Coutinho goes and we bring Ox in rather than Lemar? I know I wouldn't.

4.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 07:32:13
Jeez, Mr Dennis, you certainly like to emphasise your point. Every post in the past month regarding AOC has a negative comment from you underneath. I prefer to give the lad a chance rather than hammering him before he's kicked a ball for us.
He has power, pace and potential plus he has age on his side. Best of all, he wants to play for us. Give the lad a break.

5.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 07:38:10
My take on Ox - he needs a lot of work, he is way behind where he should be in his development.
LFC is not the place for him to catch up as he will struggle to get regular game time.
We have plenty of equally talented players already here who we could develop.

6.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 07:40:49
He'd improve the backup levels but like most I'd struggle to see him adding competition for starting places.

7.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 08:06:04
Voronins left foot, a large part of the reason we never actually win trophies is that we always settle for second best instead of buying actual quality. Oxlade is the equivalent of us going for Downing when Mata was also available. You say he had power and pace, but you miss out out the most critical things, skill, intelligence and decision making, which he doesn't have. You can't sudddenly teach these things at his age, he's as good as he is going to ever get and he's certainly not worth £40m when we have other priorities, such as a commanding centre half and the Coutinho sized hole in the squad that we will imminently have.

8.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 10:01:40
Agree with Ron, at his age he isn't yet good enough to justify spending the time developing him. But would also disagree with Mr Dennis about ability to develop. Pace and strength are things you can only develop so much from the natural level, you can't make a slow person quick no matter how much you work on it. You can take someone with a decent level of ability and improve their skills by a higher factor than their speed. So he has the room to improve the question would be why hasn't he so far? Is that entirely down to Wenger or is he not working on it or is there an underlying reason? As has been said about some players already at LFC the hardest thing to fix is mental side. You can have someone with natural pace and teach them to have great skills but if they can't perform under pressure at speed because their brain can't do it hen that it never going to change. If LFC sign AOC then I'd hope that isn't the reason he hasn't developed further, there are already too many players at the club who struggle with the mental side of the top level of EPL expectations.

9.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 14:22:18
Interesting stuff lads.

It seems he may well join us, if he comes I will support him of course but I am hoping this deal doesn't go through personally.

For me, Van Diijk is key, anyone else is a luxury at this stage.