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04 Oct 2018 10:40:11
Eds
That was supposed to read

Bobbys got style Sturridge had pace
Campania - what a nice place

If you can amend please


YNWA.



04 Oct 2018 10:34:30
Rogue

Andy Robertson and our Mo
Sadio Mane - Alberto
Henderson - Fabinho
On the bench at San Paolo
Fab Shaq and Naby
Jurgen klopp you just see
James Milner it's not fair
Wijnaldums got more chest hair
They had style they had pace
Campania - what a nice place
Joe - Virgil - Dejan who?
Alisson Becker we love you
Jurgen with an attitude
Players that weren't in the mood
Trent, don't just stand there let's get to it
We need a goal - oh $hit we blew it

Rogue rogue
Rogue rogue


YNWA.



03 Oct 2018 19:23:08
Keita for Hendo, just what the doctor ordered. Once we are at least two goals up we can bring him in thirty minutes to the end (out of respexlct for his office and ) because he is better suited for slowing down the game.



03 Oct 2018 23:35:34
Erm. awkward. Eds are you going to tell him or shall I?

03 Oct 2018 09:09:14
Allison-Trent Gomez VVD Robertson- Keita Fabinho Wijnaldum- Salah Firmino Shaqiri.

That would be my line up for the Napoli game.

Milner and Henderson could do with a breather as the fixtures have piled up. Mane is the only player in our squad to have started every game so likewise deserves a break. In any event Keita, Fabinho and Shaqiri deserve a start. It will be a tough game and a win would be MASSIVE for us. or 'moerse' as we say here.



03 Oct 2018 13:13:47
Milner and Hendo are two players you want in your team in a tricky away trip.

30 Sep 2018 10:39:49
Goodmorning Eds is there any truth in the Ramsey rumours? His injury record is truly worrying no matter how good he is.



29 Sep 2018 02:27:55
Just for fun
After the game the other day I found it crazy that certain players are lucky to have pulled on the red shirt.
To get to play pro football is a dream for 99% of us
How on earth do players like Alberto Moreno along with other at our club
And the others like him at other clubs up and down the country do it
Never learn or improve when they have top class coaches and facilities on hand?
All for giving players a go and would love to see all clubs bring in young British players

Is it the coaching at fault or players
I no I am picking on Alberto. But using him as example
How in the 4 odd years has he not grasped the basics of defending?

Funny how so many players from all clubs in the epl
Make a killing by being no better than crap
No matter what team you play for you give it all.



27 Sep 2018 10:45:09
I’ve been off this site for a little while, a month or two ago I realised my relationship with it was effecting how I viewed football in general, and Liverpool in particular, and I realised those things were more important to me. Last night, after our first loss of the season, I decided to have a look at how the site had reacted, what I saw inspired me to write this post.

First of all, a little about me, I didn’t grow up with football, I lived abroad a lot and went to schools where nobody really cared about it. I always said I supported Liverpool though; I was a child of the eighties and Liverpool were the dominant team, every kid said they supported Liverpool (for the record, I also liked Spurs because they’d been on Blue Peter once, I quickly got over that) . My football journey really started at Euro 96, the buzz around the country got me interested and in the two year period between that tournament and the World Cup in 98 I became obsessed, Fowler, Redknapp and McManaman were my early heroes.

The joy of football for me was never about live matches, I have no doubt that being present for certain occasions would have been incredible but, frankly, I was never in a position to attend the biggest games and watching Liverpool play Burnley up close never gripped me, I’d rather watch those games on TV with a beer, replays and commentary. What I loved was the wider world of the game, the relationships, the intrigue, the suspense, the debate. My friends and I would have endless conversations about who were the best players, what formations should be used, what transfers were the most successful.

I discovered this site in the 13/ 14 season and I thought it was the perfect forum for me, a community of people who were as invested in football and Liverpool as I was where there was always someone willing to discuss some aspect of the game or the club. The fact that the 13/ 14 season was so extraordinary only added to the experience, I have never enjoyed football as much as I did then.

13/ 14 was a golden time on this site but it wasn’t to last, the site turned sour the following year when Rodgers started to struggle, what I viewed as unfair criticism of the manager and players seeped onto the site and the experience became negative, I even found myself under attack for defending the team. There were certain posters who I had a real problem with, people like Redohio and Bobatron who represented everything bad about football fans, they were spiteful, tribal, odious creeps, I could never hate anyone the way they hated people working for the club they claimed to love.

Thankfully such extreme cases were the exception and most posters made valuable contributions to the site, over the years I’ve enjoyed getting to know the regulars; MKScouser who’d reliably argue that any youth player who could tie his shoe laces would be a world beater, Ron Keague with his strict set of morals and optimism, Harry with his ‘abstract’ viewpoints, Walter who’s negativity went so beyond reasonable criticism that I firmly believe he’s just trolling us, there are many more who’s views and insights I’ve really enjoyed reading.

Then there’s the Eds, 001 has a very different outlook on football than I but can only be respected for his breadth of knowledge of the game, I’ve loved debating with him as he’s always up for a good argument (despite the fact that I don’t think he’s ever admitted he’s wrong on any point) . On a personal note I’d also like to thank him for when he stamped out a particularly unpleasant incursion that had started on one of the other pages. Then we have Ed2, I’d love to know who you really are because your knowledge of transfers and the inner workings of the game is astonishing and the information you provide is one the site’s most valuable resources. You may be a teeny bit cantankerous but the treatment you receive for being honest is reprehensible and is indicative of the problems that have driven me away. Next up we have Ed25 who may just be the perfect football fan, good natured, insightful, respectful and invested in what makes football great, he’s the model that every fan should aspire to. Beyond that we have a number of Eds that I’m less familiar with but I know they contribute across the other pages and it’s their work that allows this site to operate, their efforts are hugely appreciated.

It’s because of the people above that I stuck around as long as I did but things have never been as good as they were in 13/ 14. Last night was the perfect example, we lost a really good game of football but, despite how incredible our start to the season has been, the knives were out as quick as a flash. ‘Our back-ups are awful’, ‘player X shouldn’t be at the club’, ‘the ref robbed us! ’. Every time a team wins, another loses, it’s an equal part of the game but losing seems to bring about a disproportionate amount of negativity. I’m not saying we should be happy to lose but it shouldn’t provoke such anger either. It’s not just the reaction to bad Liverpool results that’s the problem, it’s the lack of respect for other teams that brings me down. Man City and Guardiola put in, literally, the greatest English league run in history last year, but they haven't received an ounce of respect on this site for that incredible achievement. The revelry in our rivals misfortunes is equally distasteful, the glee that has been taking in Mourinho’s struggles, or Everton’s, is just totally repugnant. Then there’s how we talk about players of other teams, there’s no critical thought into their real merits or reasonable comparison with our own players, they’re just called sh*t.

My moment of epiphany happened after the Champions league final, I realised I really didn’t care that we’d lost, I may have even been satisfied that we had, because I couldn’t bare to face the smugness of certain posters if we’d won. I stuck around for the transfer window because this is still the best site in the world for transfer information, but I stopped visiting the site shortly after it closed. I want to enjoy watching Liverpool, I want to feel that exhilaration of winning games again and the thrill of chasing trophies, I’ve lost that in the last couple of years.

I’ll end up by saying thank you to those posters that the above doesn’t apply to, to those that have engaged with my posts either to agree or argue, I appreciated both equally. Thank you to the Eds for putting this site together, despite my concerns I’ve genuinely enjoyed being part of the community.

{Ed001's Note - believe me I have admitted being wrong many times.}



27 Sep 2018 11:10:26
Best post I’ve read on here in a long time, strange it doesn’t get the respect of being put on the main banter page which now seems to be full of “ how are you”, posts.
Such a pity as I think many more would enjoy a true fans ups and downs of not only his time as a fan but also his perception of the sites ups and downs.
Ed1, many don’t move off the Banter page, I think this warrants a run there as it’s a well written piece.
Well said Putney.

{Ed001's Note - respect? The only disrespect is coming from you disrespecting the choice I made. This is not banter. It would be disrespectful to it to put it on a banter page.}

27 Sep 2018 11:28:59
Saying hello and how are you is not banter, this is banter (friendly exchange of teasing remarks; repartee: ) as it questions the articles of other posters and the Eds,
you should get off the high horse every now and then mate. Peoples posts are not always trying to get you. My comment is this deserves a place on the banter page much more than some posts as it is banter.

{Ed001's Note - I never sat on any high horse nor did I assume you were trying to get me, nor do I really care if you are. My point was this was far from friendly with its nasty remarks about fans who actually care rather than someone who admits he doesn't give a toss about the team. Not sure how calling someone else the worst kind of fan is friendly or teasing, it is just nasty and bitchy and does not belong in banter.

Your comment was disrespectful. I don't tell you how to do your job, why do you think you have the right to tell me how to do mine?}

27 Sep 2018 11:51:30
I have the right to offer my opinion which is what I did, in the same way you give your opinion on here and I’m sure elsewhere in your life. That’s what banter is, opinions.

He had issues with people who made nasty comments about the club and players, you ban people for nasty comments or at the very least delete their posts and call them out, how is he different than you for calling out nasty posters?

Your site, your rules but to me this is more banter than the “hows you today stuff” but then that’s my opinion, “not disrespect mate, just opinion”.

{Ed001's Note - I am not arguing it is banter when I call people out for it am I? So what is your point, apart from being unable to understand what banter actually is?

Please tell me more about these imaginary rights you have to offer an opinion on here that don't actually exist. It is a privilege that we editors can remove or allow at our discretion, not a right.

As for disrespect, it was far more disrespectful than where the post was put, but you called that disrespectful, so make up your mind. The post was put on an LFC page, what is so lacking in respect in that? Just because you are a miserable bugger with no friends chatting to you on the banter page doesn't mean you have to insult everyone else on there. The banter page should be lighthearted chat, anything else should be on other pages really.}

27 Sep 2018 12:30:08
Mcoverb, thanks for your support but Ed1 was right to put it on this page.

Ed1, you're right that this was aimed at certain fans who I have a profound disagreement with but I have always cared about this team. it is specifically that I care more about the team than this site that I'm leaving. I know you and I have our differences, quite probably you straight up dislike me, but I do appreciate all the work you've done and your views. I'd appreciate it if you passed on my thanks to Ed2 and 25.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know you to like or dislike you Putney. I certainly wouldn't hold disagreements against you, my best mate was a United fan, do you think we agreed on much? But it never stopped us being best mates, so I am certainly not going to dislike you over any disagreement or like you over an agreement we have. Thinking about it, another case in point is Harry. I very rarely agree with him on anything, but as a person I like him, he is genuinely nice guy in person, I just have different views from him.

I will pass over your thanks, and apologies as I misread the bit about the CL final when reading it initially as you saying you didn't care. Personally I will miss the disagreements. I prefer the mix of yes and no, for and against views to stay as mixed as possible. You usually have a different viewpoint that I find interesting, even if I often disagree. Take care mate and best of luck with whatever you find yourself doing.}

27 Sep 2018 12:47:44
You are a class act Ed, I'm sure your job is difficult but you so often make it personnal, abusing me by calling me a miserable bugger make you feel good?

{Ed001's Note - abusing you? It was tongue in cheek for heaven's sake. I give up, I am done wasting my time on you. I could have done something far more useful, like pick the fluff from my belly button, instead of typing these replies to you. Next time I will stick to the fluff and wondering why it is blue when I was wearing a red top.}

27 Sep 2018 13:11:53
Thank you Ed, the same to you.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate and I am sure I will not be the only one who will miss you.}

12 Oct 2018 19:05:56
have to say Putney great read and total understand where you are coming from with some fans as they say the same things time and time agen, so that's where u probs get your views on them from instead of mixing up about our great team. there is way to much hatred in the world, without hating people any of us have never meet. Anyway lad a hope you find what u are looking for good luck in what u chose to do fella and a hope Liverpool can win the premier league this ye for us fans, all of us even the ones that like to post crap about every tiny stupid thing it may bring a little harmony on here next yr tho a very much doubt it will.
Respect from me YNWA fella.

13 Oct 2018 09:37:39
Hey Putney, if you’re still about. 🤝

Thanks for the namecheck. I find all contributors to the site interesting and when anyone decides to leave it is a disappointment.

It is not that infrequent that I find myself getting emotional about what is written on the site and sometimes my replies are tetchy or out of order. That’s usually a sign I need to take a few days away from posting. I’m not accusing you of being tetchy or out of order, but perhaps emotional and maybe a break would be useful?

This is a great site, there will be great times and less great times and that will largely reflect the fortunes of the club. My advice is to stick with it 👍.

BTW: Ed001 probably admits he’s been wrong more than any other poster on the site. I think we have to look at his posts as we do other posters. Not many people openly change their opinion on the site but I’ve seen Ed001 do it when it happens. It’s probably because we remember the ed’s posts more.

14 Oct 2018 14:54:05
It is a shame when someone feels the way Putney does, feeling their only option is to quit the site. Football seems to make some fans so emotional and overreacting to a bad result or a players bad performance.
Remember the old days watching in the pub etc, there was always a few loudmouths who called every player crap and what they would have done differently if they were manager, off the back of 1 bad result.

You simply have to rise above the keyboard warriors who type their ignorant rubbish. There are plenty of decent, knowledgeable posters on this site. I look forward to reading their opinions whether I agree or not. I then just ignore the morons who moan if Liverpool do not win 10-0 every week.
Hopefully in time Putneyred will return.

27 Sep 2018 08:58:50
It annoyed me the way Klopp berated Shaqiri in front of the cameras. It's not the first time he's done it to a player. That should be kept for the dressing room.



26 Sep 2018 19:18:00
Not taking the cup serious then.



25 Sep 2018 11:32:46
Players that should get a rest do not expect to start the league cup:

Alisson, VVD, Salah, Mane, Milner

Players that definitely should expect to start:

Shaqiri, Sturridge, Fabhino, Keita, Mignolet

Players who would hope to start:
Solanke, Origi, Clyne, Moreno

Thoughts?



 


 
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